Leckomaniac wrote:...they must be using the Chewbacca defense.
At a guess, I'd say there's some printing fuckup they're dealing with, since Amazon had it pegged as coming out tomorrow when I looked it up Monday.
Leckomaniac wrote:...they must be using the Chewbacca defense.
DennisMM wrote:It shipped on time. Good.
DennisMM wrote:The way the book was described, it was clear to me it was not a standard comics story. I didn't know what to expect and I haven't cracked the shrink wrap yet because I want to be able to devour it in a sitting. I'm sorry to hear that the package is so much more than the content.
Leckomaniac wrote:Well he has said all along that Vol. III is going to be published by Top Shelf. So I am not sure why you were expecting Vol. III with the Black Dossier. And that interview with Moore I linked to on the previous page includes Moore spelling out exactly what this book is.
DennisMM wrote:keepcoolbutcare wrote:Adam Balm wrote:Congratulations, Ribbons. You're the first one in this thread to actually look at the cover and thus get the joke. Well done.
I thought jokes were supposed to be funny.![]()
Dennis, any truth to this...
I wouldn't call Kingdom Come a total rip-off. They start from the same concept and contain some of the same ideas, but the development is very different. KC is largely about the redemption of both the new and the retired heroes, where Twilight was more about the basic corruption that comes with power.
I have a print copy of the much-circulated web file. It's somewhere in my "interesting and unusual things" folder, which is somewhere in the new file cabinet into which I tossed everything a while back when we redid the office. I don't remember the bit about the multiverse, but everything else makes sense.
An interesting point I do remember is that Captain Marvel Junior had taken on a new style, very Elvis-like appearance. This was a tribute to the fact that Elvis based his hairstyle on Junior's and wore lightning bolt necklaces at times, inspired by the Marvels' emblem.
An element or two of the proposal found their way into DK2, mostly having to do with J'Onn J'Onnz and, if memory serves, The Question.
If anyone wants to see it badly enough, I can try to locate it and type it out.
I’ve heard this one rumbling for a while now. First there was the story that DC Comics Publisher and President Paul Levitz had personally prevented any Watchmen 2 projects, because, despite their differences, he believed that as this would be against Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons’ wishes, it would cause bery bad feeling in the creative community and would be a creatively bankrupt move.
Moore fell out massively with DC Comics, and Paul Levitz specifically, not only choosing not to work with them any further, but scuppering spinoff projects, removing his name from any movie credits and any money due to him from said movies, and taking his one final project The League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen, from Wildstorm, a publisher DC had purchased
But in the wake of the movie, Watchmen became DC’s best selling comic book of all time. One might say partly because it had remained undiluted after all this time.
But there were moves. A Wizard splash showing DC’s Countdown multiverse had Rorschach as one of the combatants and it was rumoured one of the universes in the DC 52 Multiverse was intended to be the Watchmen world. Instead, Earth 4 became a world inspired by elements of Watchmen and the Charlton Heroes universe but with other aspects such as the laws of physics being altered.
But the news broke that Paul Levitz was stepping down from DC Comics as both President and Publisher, I wondered what that meant for the possibility of a Watchmen sequel. Certainly in a hundred years, you couldn’t expect there not to be one.
Well, it seems to be happening a lot sooner than I thought. I understand now that this considered a pet project of Dan DiDio, SVP-Executive Editor. That he is determined to impress new bosses by building on DC’s biggest selling comic book of all time with multiple prequel comic miniseries and spinoff ongoing projects.
I understand that both Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons have to be offered first refusal before any of these titles could be published. But if they don’t want to work on them themselves (and Alan Moore is never going to agree), DiDio has been sounding out people who might be willing to take on the task.
While some creators are reticent, the argument goes if there are a number of Watchmen spinoff projects, any blame or shame can be spread on many shoulders. The sales are expected to be massive, whatever the hardcore fanboy reaction and such expected sales benefits will be shared amongst the creative teams.
In contrast, not only would Levitz not allow any new Watchmen stories but even the video game was restricted to material in the graphic novel and film, nothing brand new was allowed to be invented. Despite differences with Moore, Levitz has held fast to the committment that the comic is the comic is the comic.
It seems that this may now change.
At this stage, having disowned himself of much of it, Alan Moore is likely not to care. Though we might get an eviscerating blast at some point if this all comes to pass.
Both Jim Baike, Rich Veitch and Gene Ha/Zander Cannon are artists who have taken on writing chores on books previously written by Alan Moore, to continue the storyline. The most creatively-acceptable solution would be Dave Gibbons writing and drawing new Watchmen titles. But DiDio’s plans seem much larger than just one book.
And of course, in those initial movie contracts with Fox, there was a clause that included sequels to a Watchmen movie.
When asked, Dave Gibbons only replied “Hurm…”
TonyWilson wrote:Mark Millar for the Rorschach/Comedian spin-off. YAY!!!
Sorry, just wanted to give Lecko an aneurysm![]()
TonyWilson wrote:Mark Millar for the Rorschach/Comedian spin-off. YAY!!!
Sorry, just wanted to give Lecko an aneurysm![]()
Brian Warmoth wrote:“I know that I wouldn’t have anything to do with it,” he said of a “Watchmen 2.”
Rick Marshall wrote:"It's all been talked about," laughed Wilson. "Financially, they like to do that. But all of us, [director] Zack [Snyder] included, all go, 'How on Earth could you do a sequel or prequel?'"
While Wilson acknowledged the presence of a clause in his contract that allowed for sequels, he was quick to add that these types of arrangements are standard fare these days, citing their presence (and even more unlikely use) in Snyder's previous blockbuster adaptation, "300."
"Even the guys from '300’ might have had a sequel," said Wilson. "It's the most ridiculous option. It's sort of a financial way to protect the studio, and I would do the same thing."
Borys Kit wrote:This past fall, Warners quietly hired three of DC's biggest writers -- Geoff Johns, Grant Morrison and Marv Wolfman -- to act as consultants and writers for its superhero line of movies. The move involved taking back the reins on projects being handled by such producers as Charles Roven ("The Flash") and Akiva Goldsman ("Teen Titans").
The projects Morrison and Wolfman are working on are in the early stages at Warners, whose execs declined to comment.
Graeme McMillan wrote:But what would a Watchmen spin-off look like? Who could do it justice... or, for that matter, would be willing to try? Putting aside all ideas of potential disaster, here are what I think are the most likely scenarios.
YMB has learned that early last year, DC Comics began taking submissions from writers for a top secret project... a sequel to the opus "Watchmen."
"With the movie coming out, it just makes sense to capitalize on that," DC Executive Editor Dan DiDio is quoted as saying at a recent secret conference call with retailers. "We got, literally, tens of submissions and picked the best one."
"We figured that Hollywood was going to make a sequel anyway, and this way we get to maintain control of that. And with this one we don't have to deal with Moore, which is nice."
Who is the writer tasked with writing the sequel to one of the most beloved comics of all time? None other than fan-favorite John Byrne. Byrne explained the sequel's premise on the call: "Basically, there are a lot of continuity errors in the original book and I wanted to explore those and fix them. Those get fixed as we follow the basic plot of the book, which is: What if the extra-dimensional squid monster Ozymandias created was real? And from another dimension? And there were more of them? And they actually did decide to invade Earth? Dr. Manhattan said at the end of the first volume that he was going to go off and create life. What if he decided to create evil, psychic, Earth-enslaving squids?"
Art will be handled by none other than fan-favorite artist Frank Quitely. The artist said on the call: "DC gave me a huge lead time, six months, and I've absolutely got the first issue just about done. I'm even going to draw some of the other issues, too."
Byrne continued: "I have no idea what this guy is drawing half the time, but the civilians seem to like him, so whatever."
"John's giving me a lot of great stuff to draw, and I hope to be able to draw some of it. The fight between Omni-Rorschach and Dr. Manhattan in issue eleven should be fun. Hope I get around to it." Always-a-bridesmaid-never-the-bride-on-big-event-comics Doug Mahnke will provide art for "whatever Frank doesn't bother getting to," DiDio revealed.
This fall readers will be able to uncover all the secrets still waiting to be revealed in the Watchmen universe! How did Rorschach survive Dr. Manhattan's disintegration? Did the newspaper publish his journal? Do the members of the power-pop tween band (and children of Nite Owl and Silk Spectre) Nite Spectre have powers? And is Ozymandias Dumbledore? "Watchmen II" is scheduled to be released the same week the movie hits DVD/Blu-Ray.
TheButcher wrote:From Your Mom's Basement February 19, 2009:
DC ANNOUNCES WATCHMEN IIthe basic plot of the book, which is: What if the extra-dimensional squid monster Ozymandias created was real? And from another dimension? And there were more of them? And they actually did decide to invade Earth? Dr. Manhattan said at the end of the first volume that he was going to go off and create life. What if he decided to create evil, psychic, Earth-enslaving squids?"
How did Rorschach survive Dr. Manhattan's disintegration? Did the newspaper publish his journal? Do the members of the power-pop tween band (and children of Nite Owl and Silk Spectre) Nite Spectre have powers? And is Ozymandias Dumbledore? "Watchmen II" is scheduled to be released the same week the movie hits DVD/Blu-Ray.
DC Shark wrote:We figured that Hollywood was going to make a sequel anyway, and this way we get to maintain control of that. And with this one we don't have to deal with Moore, which is nice.
the basic plot of the book, which is: What if the extra-dimensional squid monster Ozymandias created was real? And from another dimension? And there were more of them? And they actually did decide to invade Earth? Dr. Manhattan said at the end of the first volume that he was going to go off and create life. What if he decided to create evil, psychic, Earth-enslaving squids?
Seppuku wrote:Plus, that whole quote has to be one of the slimiest things I've read in a while. Note to douchenozzles: dissing Frank Quitely's art, the original Watchmen and Alan Moore isn't exactly the kind of thing that endears me to the project you're trying to sell to me.
Fried Gold wrote:Apparently there was a real source of info regarding DC making a another Watchmen comic. (which wouldn't be totally abhorrent or unheard of)
But then it got mixed up with old false rumours about Zack Snyder/Warners making a film sequel. (Snyder said he wasn't interested anyway)
Now it seems noone is saying anything.
Sarah Jaffe wrote:Alan Moore will also be creating a 48-page graphic novel for Avatar, titled Light of thy Countenance, due in early 2009, and he’s working with Jacen Burrows on a horror series titled Neonomicon. Christensen said that while working on the book, Moore asked him, “There are no editorial restrictions at all? You’re sure?” Christensen replied, “There are things that will get me thrown in jail,” and Moore said, “Right. What are those?”
“Talk about somebody who still scares the piss out of me when I call him on the phone,” Christensen said.
Science/comedy chat with Brian Cox, Robin Ince and guests. Witty, irreverent look at the world according to science with physicist Brian Cox and comedian Robin Ince.
Brian Cox and Robin Ince are joined by Jonathan Ross, graphic novelist Alan Moore and string theorist Brian Greene for a special science fiction themed programme.
Pacino86845 wrote:Just downloaded it, thanks for the heads up Herm!
TonyWilson wrote:Cool cool, cheers for the link.
The enigmatic creator revealed DC offered him the rights to Watchmen back in exchanges for prequels and sequels
Kiel Phegley wrote:"Realistically, we naturally never really comment about any deals – perspective or ones that we close otherwise," Dido said of Moore's statements. "But the one thing that we've been saying for a while is that 'Watchmen' is truly one of the premier projects out there, and if we were ever to proceed with [a sequel] the most logical place to start would be with Alan and Dave. For me, it's one of those things that's still one of the crown jewels in comics, and if you ever wanted to approach it, you'd have to do it in that manner – making sure the best talent available and possible was working on it."
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