HeadlessCrane wrote:I think that the winner is dependant on whomever throws the first 'punch'. If Batman initiated a fight, I'd imagine that it would be over before it began. Same thing with Superman.
preacher2041 wrote:I read good comics, in fact I specifically remember an issue of Superman/Batman when Batman got his arse handed to him by the future Superman and I remember him saying something along the lines of I'm tired of being beaten by your tricks and I'm not taking it any more (so okay I may have added that last bit for dramatic effect but hey). And thats pretty much the point, Batman with outs his tricks is just another man, and one that wouldn't stand a chance against Superman.
Colin wrote:preacher2041 wrote:I read good comics, in fact I specifically remember an issue of Superman/Batman when Batman got his arse handed to him by the future Superman and I remember him saying something along the lines of I'm tired of being beaten by your tricks and I'm not taking it any more (so okay I may have added that last bit for dramatic effect but hey). And thats pretty much the point, Batman with outs his tricks is just another man, and one that wouldn't stand a chance against Superman.
And Superman without his powers would make him just another man too, right?
reneritchie wrote:Miller settled this back in Dark Knight...
Fried Gold wrote:Batman is overrated?
r8hitman wrote:Fried Gold wrote:Batman is overrated?
Yes he is.
HIGHLY overrated.
If you like heroes that dont have a lot "outrageous" powers then Cap's the man.
Captain America would destroy Batman.
r8hitman wrote:This is a stupid debate. Superman wins. Batman is normal human and his technology is normal. He doesn't have a prayer.
Look, obviously Batman is a far cooler character than Superman. Superman is dull and Batman is edgy. Fine. It's ok to prefer Batman, but still acknowledge that Superman is just far too powerful for Batman to take down.
Thankyou.
(finally a voice of reason.)
r8hitman wrote:Do you honestly think that Bane would have broken Spiderman's back?
I dont think so.
Chairman Kaga wrote:r8hitman wrote:This is a stupid debate. Superman wins. Batman is normal human and his technology is normal. He doesn't have a prayer.
Look, obviously Batman is a far cooler character than Superman. Superman is dull and Batman is edgy. Fine. It's ok to prefer Batman, but still acknowledge that Superman is just far too powerful for Batman to take down.
Thankyou.
(finally a voice of reason.)
Sorry but all of the Superman supporters seem to ignore the character's backgrounds when proclaiming Superman victorious. It comes down to this Superman is a big boy scout. He is not a murderer or a psychopath. Batman on the other hand is a psychopath and fights to win no matter the cost as long as it's just shy of murder. Superman holds himself back when fighting humans (see above not murderer statement) while Bats has no problem with crippling a mugger if he deems it necessary. Thus in a Batman vs. Superman situation Batman wins.....Batman would have no problem with shooting a kryptonite bullet into Supes face if he thought it necessary while Superman will not "crush his windpipe".
Now if you mean two characters with the same powers and absolutely no morals or conscience then Superman wins.....but of course that's not Superman.
minstrel wrote:I think you have to stage this as a battle in which they are both going all out. A real fight to the finish. Otherwise, anybody could beat Superman because he's "holding back". That's just his CHOICE. For it to be a real test of who-beats-who, nobody chooses to hold back. Superman would have to be aware that Batman is trying to kill him - it would have to be done like Superman vs. Doomsday.
You can't say Superman loses simply because he CHOOSES not to win.
Lord Voldemoo wrote:minstrel wrote:I think you have to stage this as a battle in which they are both going all out. A real fight to the finish. Otherwise, anybody could beat Superman because he's "holding back". That's just his CHOICE. For it to be a real test of who-beats-who, nobody chooses to hold back. Superman would have to be aware that Batman is trying to kill him - it would have to be done like Superman vs. Doomsday.
You can't say Superman loses simply because he CHOOSES not to win.
See, that's a toughy. I definitely see your point but I don't think you can just completely disregard the character when you're considering these questions. Superman's tendency to hold back his powers is inherent to his character and has been a recurring theme as long as he's been in comics.
The Vicar wrote:Batman has the cooler costume, but in a stand up fight its a case of Dr. Ruth VS Mike Tyson....old school Iron Mike, not the most current version.
It would be very ugly, very brief.
And Tyson would totally bite her ear off.
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