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Postby burlivesleftnut on Thu Dec 29, 2005 10:02 am

This is your space for the your fave of faves (or the stuff that made you plotz) for 2005. It can be whole books, whole miniseries, or just moments that kicked your nuts in a good way.

I will start off by saying that hands down my favorite moment of 2005 happened during issue 3 of Spider-man and Human Torch. The two heroes stop for a snack break while pursuing some Super-Apes and Human Torch questions Spider-man's obsession with Hostess Pies. The meta-joke had me laughing for about 10 minutes straight.

My favorite team up of the year goes to the heroes of Shadowpact. Day of Vengeance made this group of z-listers a thrill to read. I have always been a fan of Blue Devil, so it was great to see him get some love. I hope we get to see more of Detective Chimp and and rest after this Infinite Crisis hullabaloo is finished.

And best new comic for me this year was Dan Slott's the Thing. Another of my all time favorite characters handled in a way that was lovingly attentive and brilliantly edgy. Andrea DiVito who handled art chores has given us the definitive version of the Thing in my opinion. And I can't wait to see where this series goes.

Those are just a few of the things that had me excited this year.
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Postby Shane on Thu Dec 29, 2005 10:10 am

Astonishing X-|Men was the best X-book I ever read. I was not a huge X-fan, and rarely read the book, but this book got me hooked.
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Postby bc1970 on Thu Dec 29, 2005 10:24 am

<b>Villains United</b>. I picked up the trade last nite and read it through before I slept. It was ChrisFarleyawesome. I also like <b>Wolverine</b> Enemy/SHIELD in a broad way, but the Northstar thing was pointless and Elektra was weird. You never get to see Reed Richards slapping his head and say <b>"GOD, I'M SO STUPID AND CARELESS!"</b> It ended up not really affecting anything, but it looked beautiful. <b>Shanna</b> looked fantastic also.
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Postby Shane on Thu Dec 29, 2005 10:40 am

Yeah Shanna looked good it was Frank Cho, he has such a clean look.
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Postby Shane on Thu Dec 29, 2005 8:43 pm

Worst of 05 for me was the onslaught of crossoversand events. couldn't they just tell a few self contained stories again?
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Postby Shane on Thu Dec 29, 2005 10:27 pm

wonkabar wrote:I'm a putz


um that's not in the comic arena really

is it?
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Postby burlivesleftnut on Thu Dec 29, 2005 10:27 pm

wonkabar wrote:I'm a putz


WTF?... putz.
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Postby Shane on Thu Dec 29, 2005 10:28 pm

|I remember old ass ones at the time of the origional.
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Postby buster00 on Fri Dec 30, 2005 10:21 am

Vertigo's DMZ is whippin' the shit outta me. Can't wait to see where this one goes in '06.

If Marvel keeps the MAX line going just so The Punisher can be done like it's been done this year, by all means do it. Frank's crazy, madcap hijinks have never been better depicted.

Maybe if MAX got the gratuitous thrill of naked titties and "The Fuck Word" out of their collective system, and then concentrated on using those elements to augment a good story (like DC's Vertigo line has done sucessfully with titles like Y: The Last Man, Preacher, DMZ, and others), they wouldn't have painted themselves into a corner with the imprint. People aren't staying away from MAX titles because they're "too raw"... it's because we're getting horseshit like Shang Chi: Master of Kung Fu.
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Postby MasterWhedon on Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:49 am

I was discussing this with someone else a little while ago--I think House of M was a bit disappointing (though I wouldn't call it worst of the year), but the aftermath being dealt with in Decimation is one of the best things of the year. It's had a really nice impact all across the Marvel U that I hope they continue.

Best books of the year were Astonishing X-Men, Runaways and X-Factor (best first issue I've read in a LONG time).
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Postby wonkabar on Fri Dec 30, 2005 3:16 pm

I-am-a-total-putz. I'm so guilty of PWI (posting while intoxicatad) How embarrassing.
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Postby burlivesleftnut on Fri Dec 30, 2005 3:20 pm

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Postby BabiesCoffin on Fri Dec 30, 2005 4:01 pm

Desolation Jones and Fell. I have to rub one out anytime i get something new from Ellis.
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Postby Shane on Fri Dec 30, 2005 4:19 pm

buster00 wrote:Vertigo's DMZ is whippin' the shit outta me. Can't wait to see where this one goes in '06.

If Marvel keeps the MAX line going just so The Punisher can be done like it's been done this year, by all means do it. Frank's crazy, madcap hijinks have never been better depicted.

Maybe if MAX got the gratuitous thrill of naked titties and "The Fuck Word" out of their collective system, and then concentrated on using those elements to augment a good story (like DC's Vertigo line has done sucessfully with titles like Y: The Last Man, Preacher, DMZ, and others), they wouldn't have painted themselves into a corner with the imprint. People aren't staying away from MAX titles because they're "too raw"... it's because we're getting horseshit like Shang Chi: Master of Kung Fu.


no truer words were ever spoken.

BabiesCoffin wrote:Desolation Jones and Fell. I have to rub one out anytime i get something new from Ellis.


I heard alot about Fell, what is it all about?

it's supposed to be good.
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Postby BabiesCoffin on Fri Dec 30, 2005 4:51 pm

BabiesCoffin wrote:Desolation Jones and Fell. I have to rub one out anytime i get something new from Ellis.


I heard alot about Fell, what is it all about?

it's supposed to be good.[/quote]


Its your basic detective in a new city story. But Ellis is doing it as a budget comic. Its cheaper than normal and all of the issues are self contained stories. He wanted to write something people could buy with the change in their pocket and something they didnt need every issue of to follow.
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Postby buster00 on Fri Dec 30, 2005 5:17 pm

I LOVE Fell!
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Postby buster00 on Fri Dec 30, 2005 5:49 pm

Let's start seeing some of the bile that made AICN famous...

"What, are you DENSE? Are you ALF or something? It's the GODDAMN WORST OF '05!"

All Star Batman and Robin should go without saying...and STAY left unsaid. Every time a new issue comes out, I punt my neighbor's Cocker Spaniel in the ribs. The sad part is, I don't even feel sorry for the little fucker. THAT'S how bad this book is.

Fact is, ALL of the Bat-titles except Gotham Central got a D grade or lower in my book this year. Jason Todd? Come ON. This had better end up with him going somewhere very, very dead again. Very, very soon.

You guys type for a while. I've got to puke.
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Postby Adam Balm on Sat Dec 31, 2005 2:46 am

BabiesCoffin wrote:Desolation Jones and Fell. I have to rub one out anytime i get something new from Ellis.


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Postby buster00 on Sat Dec 31, 2005 3:23 am

Dig the sig, Balm...toldja that Mad Thinker bitch would bloody yer nose...

Ultimate FF (especially the Namor storyline) was a big highpoint this year...and I thought the X-Men crossover mini is off to a good start, too. Ultimate Wolverine Vs. Hulk REALLY got it goin' on.

Warren Ellis disciples had to be pleased with Jack Cross. His JLA: Classified run looked like shit compared to The Ultimates, but I didn't think it was horrible. I just think Ultimates (and, for that matter, Ellis' Ult. FF run) were SO, SO, GOOD in '05.
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Best and Worst of '05 [could be spoilers]

Postby bastard_robo on Sat Dec 31, 2005 9:21 am

Huh.. Kinda hard....

For me.... My pick im going with hasnt even been out that long, but im sticking to it...


JOHNNA HEX! Im picking that as the best book of 05'

You can bash House of M, or priase Crisis or what ever indy book or Y the last man, but Johnna Hex just kicks fucking ass!


Worst....

So far, All Star Batman has really dissapointed me... Im sticking with that...


Other books of 05 i liked...

TEEN TITANS is in second place,
EXILES right next to it.
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Re: Best and Worst of '05 [could be spoilers]

Postby bastard_robo on Sat Dec 31, 2005 9:23 am

bastard_robo wrote:Huh.. Kinda hard....

For me.... My pick im going with hasnt even been out that long, but im sticking to it...


JOHNNA HEX! Im picking that as the best book of 05'

You can bash House of M, or priase Crisis or what ever indy book or Y the last man, but Johnna Hex just kicks fucking ass!


Worst....

So far, All Star Batman has really dissapointed me... Im sticking with that...


Other books of 05 i liked...

TEEN TITANS is in second place,
EXILES right next to it.


FUCK! I forgot ASTONISHING XMEN!!! Put that ontop of Titans~
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Postby Colin on Sat Dec 31, 2005 11:23 am

buster00 wrote:People aren't staying away from MAX titles because they're "too raw"... it's because we're getting horseshit like Shang Chi: Master of Kung Fu.


Does that have tits in it?
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Postby Adam Balm on Sat Dec 31, 2005 4:34 pm

Colin wrote:
buster00 wrote:People aren't staying away from MAX titles because they're "too raw"... it's because we're getting horseshit like Shang Chi: Master of Kung Fu.


Does that have tits in it?


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Postby fried samurai on Sat Dec 31, 2005 4:37 pm

I cant get enough of 100 Bullets.God I love that book.

Didnt care much for the first Astonishing X-Men trade.There was nothing there that Claremont didn't do better years ago.
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Postby buster00 on Sat Dec 31, 2005 7:16 pm

[quote="Colin"][quote="buster00"]People aren't staying away from MAX titles because they're "too raw"... it's because we're getting horseshit like [i]Shang Chi:[/i] [i]Master of Kung Fu[/i].[/quote]

Does that have tits in it?[/quote]

I THINK so...I've tried to forget...
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Postby ONeillSG1 on Sat Dec 31, 2005 7:21 pm

EDITED FOR MY SHEER STUPIDITY!

THESE ARE NOT THE DROIDS YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.

Move along.

Move along.
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Postby thomasgaffney on Sat Dec 31, 2005 7:26 pm

ONeillSG1 wrote:Can we start a worst of 2006 thread yet?

Because I already got three potentials for it:

Big Momma's House 2
Bloodrayne
Grandma's Boy

And that's just January. Hell, I didn't even get to the rest of the year yet.


Wow, ONeill. You really read some fucked up comic titles.....
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Postby burlivesleftnut on Sat Dec 31, 2005 7:43 pm

Yeah why anyone would by a Big Momma's House comic is beyond me. What garbage.
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Postby ONeillSG1 on Sat Dec 31, 2005 9:42 pm

LOL!!!

AIRWOLF STRIKES AGAIN!!!

I thought this was a movie thread.

I feel dumb.

Continue. I will edit.
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Postby buster00 on Sat Dec 31, 2005 10:55 pm

[quote="burlivesleftnut"]Yeah why anyone would by a Big Momma's House comic is beyond me. What garbage.[/quote]

I know it's a TV show, not a movie, but have you ever picked up the "CSI: Miami" comic?

It's hilarious -- DAVID CARUSO EVEN OVERACTS ON THE PRINTED PAGE. How is that even POSSIBLE?
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Postby ONeillSG1 on Sat Dec 31, 2005 11:15 pm

Did anyone read the Serenity three parter they did in conjunction with the film?

It was really good.
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Postby DennisMM on Sun Jan 01, 2006 1:56 am

What little came out of Planetary. Every time I think Ellis can't surprise me, he does. (Yes, Adam, I like him. Get used to it, my friend.)

Ex Machina isn't genius, but Brian K. Vaughan's characters are interesting and the art by Tony Harris is great. I like that Mitchell Hundred thinks his work as a politician is even more important than flying around and stopping one of the planes that hit the World Trade Center towers.
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Postby Adam Balm on Sun Jan 01, 2006 2:35 am

DennisMM wrote:What little came out of Planetary. Every time I think Ellis can't surprise me, he does. (Yes, Adam, I like him. Get used to it, my friend.)


Honestly, for Ultimate Fantastic Four he lands on my best of the year list too. He's up there with Waid for me as one of the best FF writers ever now. The only thing that gets my goat is these info dumps he does where he thinks he's being all profound, but he's either A) Ripping off Stephen Baxter yet again or B) Either googling for his science or regurgitating a half-understood article from the New Scientist, which itself is a half-understood regurgitation of some paper or research.

When it comes to satire, irreverence, dark humor, and technofetish, he's the man. I'm not going to deny him his props. I'm thinking of picking up Planetary now.

Anyway, my best of the year:


Eightball 23
Ultimates v. 2
New Frontier
Ex Machina (agreed there. And Dennis, to find out where Hundred's powers come from, look up a physicist named Edward Witten. And remember the line: "It's Witten on the brane, or...written on the brain?")
Ultimate Fantastic Four
Optic Nerve
Ultimate Iron Man
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Postby DennisMM on Sun Jan 01, 2006 2:43 am

Adam Balm wrote:When it comes to satire, irreverence, dark humor, and technofetish, he's the man. I'm not going to deny him his props. I'm thinking of picking up Planetary now.


Go for it. Try to ignore the early tie-ins to the Wildstorm universe. Planetary exists in its own realm now.

Anyway, my best of the year:


Eightball 23
Ultimates v. 2
New Frontier
Ex Machina (agreed there. And Dennis, to find out where Hundred's powers come from, look up a physicist named Edward Witten. And remember the line: "It's Witten on the brane, or...written on the brain?")


My ignorance of Edward Witten haunts me again. Thanks, Adam.
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Postby DennisMM on Sun Jan 01, 2006 2:54 am

This is a comics thread, man. That scene in the comic was over ten years ago.
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Postby Cpt Kirks 2pay on Sun Jan 01, 2006 3:03 am

Uuh. Feels like yesterday. Yeah.
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Postby burlivesleftnut on Sun Jan 01, 2006 8:41 am

Jesus, how many weirdos are we going to get stumbling into the COMICS FORUM to share their favorite tvshow or movie. DOUCHE BAGS!
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Postby DennisMM on Sun Jan 01, 2006 8:18 pm

Adam, I have no idea where to start reading after my google search for "Edward Witten" in the exact phrase field and "brane" in the top field returns nearly 12,000 pages.

Can you point me to a particular piece?

Edit to add: string theory is not one of my strengths.
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Postby Adam Balm on Sun Jan 01, 2006 8:49 pm

Well basically [possible spoilers]



he came up with 'm-brane theory' which is an extension of string theory. So my thinking is that the bomb either came from one of the 10 X 500 other universes that it predicts, or that it's from the future where our future descendents have mastered travel through it.
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Postby DennisMM on Sun Jan 01, 2006 8:54 pm

Adam Balm wrote:Well basically [possible spoilers]




he came up with 'm-brane theory' which is an extension of string theory. So my thinking is that the bomb either came from one of the 10 X 500 other universes that it predicts, or that it's from the future where our future descendents have mastered travel through it.




Interesting. I wonder if Vaughn read about this and decided to build an idea around it but leave it in the background.

Or did he encounter this and file it to use it if he ever created something where it would fit inside the larger construct? Not unlike Ellis? But without constantly trumpeting his "discoveries"?

EDIT TO ADD: Before Adam's post reached the board, I started to edit the hell out of my post, as I thought it was difficult to read. If any of Adam's post seems not to connect to anything I changed, it's my fault.
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Postby Adam Balm on Sun Jan 01, 2006 8:57 pm

Yeah, it's weird because Vaughn mentioned in an interview how bad he was at math, and after finding the Witten mention I was all 'NOOOOOOOOO!!!'. So he's probably not a physics buff, maybe it just suited the story.
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