Marvel vs. DC: Who'd Win?

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Which universe of super beings would beat the other, in an all out brawl?

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Postby DennisMM on Sun Jan 01, 2006 8:01 pm

There's a lot of disagreement over when this battle takes place, so:

3600 Green Lanterns, an undisclosed number of Manhunter robots not willing to be squished, the Guardians themselves, the Zamarons and several planets of potential ubermenschen and uberfrauen just waiting to be boom-tubed to a yellow star.

Also, Darkseid kicks Thanos's butt without even flinching an eyecrag.
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Postby The Ginger Man on Sun Jan 01, 2006 8:01 pm

And if I remember correctly, the JLA fought heaven once. And won. I think that counts for something.
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Postby DennisMM on Sun Jan 01, 2006 8:06 pm

The JSA circa 1986 held off Ragnarok for ten years by taking the place of the Norse Gods. So much for Thor, et alia.
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Postby ONeillSG1 on Sun Jan 01, 2006 8:47 pm

Colin wrote: Peven, Peven...you're glib. You're thinking too small.


LOL!!! Dude, you just earned your stripes, man!!! Well done.

Colin wrote:There's Captain Marvel. He's more powerful than Superman, and could take The Thing, Hulk, and Spider-Man at the same time.


Damn it, you just lost them in the next sentence. What were you thinking?

Poor Colin.
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Postby ONeillSG1 on Sun Jan 01, 2006 8:58 pm

The problem with the fight is that it is too broad and chaotic.

Take 5 of the best from DC and pit them against 5 of the best from Marvel. That's the only way your going to get anywhere.

5 on 5 Battle Royal is an option.

Or do what they did in the DC vs. Marvel comic:

One on One battles with the cumulative victor winning the whole thing.

For example (These choices are random picks from the top of my head):

DC's Champions

    Superman
    Batman
    Green Lantern-Hal Jordan
    Captain Marvel
    Wonder Woman

Marvel's Champions

    Spiderman
    The Hulk
    Silver Surfer
    Magneto
    Wolverine


Match them up:

Superman vs. Silver Surfer

Captain Marvel vs. The Hulk

Spiderman vs. Batman

Wonder Woman vs. Magneto

Wolverine vs. Green Lantern

Best 3 out of 5 wins.

Discuss.
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Postby colonel_lugz on Sun Jan 01, 2006 9:01 pm

winners: superman, hulk, batman, magneto, wolverine
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Postby DennisMM on Sun Jan 01, 2006 9:04 pm

Winner: Silver Surfer, Hulk, Batman, Magneto, Hal Jordan.
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Postby burlivesleftnut on Sun Jan 01, 2006 11:12 pm

Dennis, well done in listing off all those bad ass random DC dudes, but with Marvel you have your Shi'ars, your Krees, your Scrulls, your EGO, your Inhumans... on top of that you have all kinds of fun stuff like rubies that give people unlimited power, the cosmic cube, the phoenix force...

I have to admit that the Lantern Corps would be an asset, but can't a well planned attack disable all of their power at the source?
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Postby cinephile2000 on Mon Jan 02, 2006 12:26 am

Id say the Champs of Marvel
Juggernaut
Xavier
Hulk
Cable
Magneto
Lets see
Xavier Vs. Superman
Juggernaut Vs. Wonder Woman
Hulk Vs. Captain Marvel
Cable Vs.Green Lantern
Batman Vs. Magneto
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Postby The Ginger Man on Mon Jan 02, 2006 1:19 am

cinephile2000 wrote:Id say the Champs of Marvel
Juggernaut
Xavier
Hulk
Cable
Magneto
Lets see
Xavier Vs. Superman
Juggernaut Vs. Wonder Woman
Hulk Vs. Captain Marvel
Cable Vs.Green Lantern
Batman Vs. Magneto


Cable and Juggernaut? Really? What have those two characters done that sets them above every other character in the Marvel universe? Just sticking with X-Men characters, there's Proteus, Apocolypse, Phoenix and Wolverine, all of which I think have proven to be more powerful than those two. Not to rag on you, just that those choices seem a bit...silly.

Also, since we're choosing champions. With Xavier and Magneto looking like blanket choices for Marvel, does Onslaught fit into this at all? I didn't really read that particular mega-event, but isn't Onslaught supposed to be Xavier and Magneto combined or something like that? I think he'd be stronger that way then the two separated. But I could be totally wrong on this one.

Final thing. If we're pitting these 5 on 5 against each other, we should group them better. Wolverine vs. GL is way off kilter. Like this.

Green Lantern vs Silver Surfer (cosmic defender vs cosmic herald)
Wonder Woman vs Wolverine (savage amazon vs savage animal guy)
Batman vs Spiderman ("urban" heroes...I guess)
Superman vs Magneto (they both can...fly?)
Captain Marvel vs Hulk (b/c I have no idea how they fit into this list)
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Postby cinephile2000 on Mon Jan 02, 2006 1:29 am

I chose Juggernaut because his power is he's unstobable it doesnt matter what happens hes going to come back. Pheonix is a god so I didnt want to do her, ok not a god but a primal force beyond imagining. Cable was supposed to be the killer of Apocolypse and now that his techno virus is cured he can do most anything. I don't know much about Silver Surfer thats why he wasnt on my list.
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Postby buster00 on Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:15 am

Dude, seriously, there's this one issue where Batman just puts on armor and beats the shit out of Galactus.

So it's gotta be DC.

Actually, here's why I voted DC: The Spectre -- read, THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD HIMSELF -- descended from on high and CAME IN THE FACE of the goddamn Marvel Universe. Then the Anti-Monitor swiped the Marvel Universe's purse, gave 'er a bootprint in the pussy lips, and sent 'er out of existence.
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Postby ONeillSG1 on Mon Jan 02, 2006 10:32 am

buster00 wrote:Dude, seriously, there's this one issue where Batman just puts on armor and beats the shit out of Galactus.

So it's gotta be DC.

Actually, here's why I voted DC: The Spectre -- read, THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD HIMSELF -- descended from on high and CAME IN THE FACE of the goddamn Marvel Universe. Then the Anti-Monitor swiped the Marvel Universe's purse, gave 'er a bootprint in the pussy lips, and sent 'er out of existence.


I am so confused. Please explain without the use of the words dude and p***y.
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Postby buster00 on Mon Jan 02, 2006 10:57 am

Er, I was just trying to be funny in the first sentence...I guess if I have to explain it, it wasn't that funny...

I thought the part about the Marvel Universe's pussy lips was pretty self-explanatory, though...if used within the context of a "Marvel Universe-as-mistreated hooker" metaphor.
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Postby Hermanator X on Mon Jan 02, 2006 11:29 am

T'would be funny to see Preacher tell the hulk to go f#$k himself.....
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Postby Colin on Mon Jan 02, 2006 12:47 pm

It would be AWESOME if he told the superheroines of Marvel to all go and fuck themselves...and then Batman would get Brother Eye to record it all. That's why Batman's the best.
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Postby burlivesleftnut on Mon Jan 02, 2006 12:47 pm

It'd be funny to see the Hulk squash Preacher like a big.
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Postby Hermanator X on Mon Jan 02, 2006 12:51 pm

like a big, burl?

Did somebody say minkey?
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Postby r8hitman on Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:46 pm

Marvel takes this IMO.

Phoenix
Galactus
Molecule Man
Thanos
Prof X.
Hulk


And that's only a few.....

(I could easily trump any argument that a D.C. follower might come up with by just throwing the Beyonder into that list, but I wont even go there yet. LOL :wink: )
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Postby minstrel on Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:00 pm

And don't forget that Marvel has the Celestials.

Wasn't there a time when the Destroyer armor (which could go toe-to-toe with Thor, and scare the bejeezus out of the Thunder God) was animated by the spirits of ALL of the Asgardian gods except Thor, grew to 2000 feet tall, and, wielding the Odinsword, no less, couldn't even put a dent in the Celestials? Them Celestials are serious business!
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Postby Theta on Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:00 pm

DC wins because they had Curt Swan.
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Postby The Vicar on Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:27 pm

Its a tie again, thanks to my Marvel vote.
Spiderman would totally kick Batman's ass.
Hell, Captain America would have kicked Batman's ass.
Even Dick Cheney would shoot Bats in the grille, just for jollies.....
Not sure who I'd stack up against Supes though - he's the tough nut.
Maybe if Wolverine dipped his claws in Kryptonite.....
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Postby minstrel on Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:33 pm

The Vicar wrote:Its a tie again, thanks to my Marvel vote.
Spiderman would totally kick Batman's ass.
Hell, Captain America would have kicked Batman's ass.
Even Dick Cheney would shoot Bats in the grille, just for jollies.....
Not sure who I'd stack up against Supes though - he's the tough nut.
Maybe if Wolverine dipped his claws in Kryptonite.....


It's a lead for Marvel, now that I've cast my vote.
Maybe Thor vs. Superman. Or a REALLY mad Hulk.
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Postby burlivesleftnut on Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:34 pm

It would be cool if Gamma Radiation = Krypto Radiation. Like they just had different names in different universes. Then Superman would be all allergic to the Hulk, and the Hulk could pummel him.

But I think the Hulk would win anyway. I mean, I think the Hulk > Doomsday, and we all know how well Superman did against Doomsday.

And I think Kitty Pryde could take out Batman.
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Postby The Vicar on Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:41 pm

Hulk vs Superman would be crazy - sheer power against finese.
I suppose Supes could just fly Hulk up into space, damn those lungs anyway.
Ironman VS Batman wouldn't be fair either, although Ironman VS Green Lantern could have some entertainment value to it.
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Postby minstrel on Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:48 pm

The Vicar wrote:Hulk vs Superman would be crazy - sheer power against finese.
I suppose Supes could just fly Hulk up into space, damn those lungs anyway.



This is why I actually lean toward Thor vs. Superman. Thor is damn powerful - I think at least a match for Supes. And Supes can't just fly him into space - Thor would come right back, Mjolnir straight down Supes' throat, in a big hurry!
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Postby Leckomaniac on Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:55 pm

DC has the lead now after I cast my vote.

The Green Lantern's, Superman, Batman, Birds of Prey, hell the JLA and the JSA...the New Gods, Captain F'n Marvel, Black Adam, The Metal Men, Teen Titans, Firestorm, Green Arrow, The Spectre, Dr. Fate, Shadowpact...etc

I think DC takes the cake.
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Postby burlivesleftnut on Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:59 pm

But everyone one you mention has a potentially equal counterpart in the Marvel Universe. It's not really fair to take one side of the debate just because you don't even like Marvel right now.
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Postby Al Shut on Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:03 pm

Forget all the superpeople.

The employees should battle it out on the streets.
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Postby burlivesleftnut on Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:04 pm

Does DC get to drag all of Time Warner to the fight? Because I think they would probably win then.
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Postby The Vicar on Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:10 pm

Going for match play parity here.....

Green Arrow VS Hawkeye
Hawkman VS Angel
Dr Fate VS Dr Strange
Aqu@m@n VS Namor
Batman VS Daredevil
Superman VS The Vision
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Postby Chairman Kaga on Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:32 pm

minstrel wrote:
The Vicar wrote:Hulk vs Superman would be crazy - sheer power against finese.
I suppose Supes could just fly Hulk up into space, damn those lungs anyway.



This is why I actually lean toward Thor vs. Superman. Thor is damn powerful - I think at least a match for Supes. And Supes can't just fly him into space - Thor would come right back, Mjolnir straight down Supes' throat, in a big hurry!

That makes sense too since SUpes is suceptible to magic.

Hulk v Doomsday is more a logical matchup powers wise.
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Postby Lord Voldemoo on Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:46 pm

Here were the matchups and winners in the Marvel Vs. DC crossover mini in 1997, courtesy of wiki, in case anyone is curious

Matches
Spider-Man (Peter Parker, even though the costume corresponds to Ben Reilly) defeats Superboy (fan voted)

Superman defeats Hulk (fan voted)

Thor defeats Captain Marvel

Robin III defeats Jubilee

Wolverine defeats Lobo (fan voted)

Storm defeats Wonder Woman (fan voted)

Aquaman defeats Namor the Sub-Mariner

Flash defeats Quicksilver

Elektra defeats Catwoman

Silver Surfer defeats Green Lantern (Kyle Rayner)

Batman defeats Captain America (fan voted)
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Postby Chairman Kaga on Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:48 pm

Robin 3 vs Jubilee...there's a nail biter. I think if this was a wrestling card that's when the audience would get up to hit the restroom and purchase an Aquaman T-Shirt.
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Postby buster00 on Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:49 pm

How the hell does Storm beat Wonder Woman in any kind of fight?


Oh, OK. "Fan-voted." There ya have it.
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Postby Chairman Kaga on Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:52 pm

buster00 wrote:How the hell does Storm beat Wonder Woman in any kind of fight?


Oh, OK. "Fan-voted." There ya have it.

Well Storm does control the weather so I suppose she could freeze her to death....depending on how long that would take...I'm no Storm fan so are her weather powers like instant?
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Postby godzillasushi on Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:55 pm

Well since everyone is throwing out match-ups, My personal favorite would be Batman v. Wolverine. I think it would be interesting to see him fight Nightcrawler as well, since trapping him proves so difficult. Gotta think Wolverine would win.

Also, Vicar's Hawkman VS Angel would be quite a fight to watch eh? Just picture that one!
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Postby Pacino86845 on Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:56 pm

YAY, my vote put DC ahead!!!!
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Postby burlivesleftnut on Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:07 pm

The Vicar wrote:Going for match play parity here.....

Green Arrow VS Hawkeye
Hawkman VS Angel
Dr Fate VS Dr Strange
Aqu@m@n VS Namor
Batman VS Daredevil
Superman VS The Vision


Angel wouldn't stand a CHANCE IN HELL against Hawkman. I would put Hawkman vs. Iron Man.
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Postby DinoDeLaurentiis on Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:07 pm

godzillasushi wrote:Vicar's Hawkman VS Angel would be quite a fight to watch eh? Just picture that one!


What inna the hell? Like it's even a the goddamn contest, eh? A the Hawkman, he's a gotta the muscles anna the goddamn MACE, no? A the Angel, he's a got a the wispy body anna the hollow bones, eh? One swipe from a the mace anna it's a the bye-bye Birdy, no?
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Postby burlivesleftnut on Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:09 pm

Hahaha... warped minds think alike.
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Postby DinoDeLaurentiis on Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:10 pm

Anna I'd a like a to know how a the Aquaman defeated a the Namor, eh?
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Postby minstrel on Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:16 pm

DinoDeLaurentiis wrote:Anna I'd a like a to know how a the Aquaman defeated a the Namor, eh?


My thought exactly. Namor wins this one hands down, in my book.
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Postby DinoDeLaurentiis on Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:19 pm

I mean, Namor, he can a FLY, no? What's a the Aquaman gonna to do? Call onna some flying fish to go anna take him down? The Dino, he donna think so, eh?
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Postby burlivesleftnut on Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:33 pm

Namor is lame. Get over it Dino.
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Postby Lady Sheridan on Thu Apr 26, 2007 7:15 pm

godzillasushi wrote:Well since everyone is throwing out match-ups, My personal favorite would be Batman v. Wolverine. I think it would be interesting to see him fight Nightcrawler as well, since trapping him proves so difficult. Gotta think Wolverine would win.


Wolverine would win against Batman, hands down. In the end, Batman's just a guy in a Kevlar suit with a lot of nifty tools. Wolverine is practically made of Kevlar.

It would be a vicious fight though, no doubt. Wolverine would be hurting by the end.
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Postby Theta on Thu Apr 26, 2007 7:15 pm

DinoDeLaurentiis wrote:
godzillasushi wrote:Vicar's Hawkman VS Angel would be quite a fight to watch eh? Just picture that one!


What inna the hell? Like it's even a the goddamn contest, eh? A the Hawkman, he's a gotta the muscles anna the goddamn MACE, no? A the Angel, he's a got a the wispy body anna the hollow bones, eh? One swipe from a the mace anna it's a the bye-bye Birdy, no?


Even if Angel won...Hawkman would just be reincarnated, and come back to beat his ass.
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Postby Theta on Thu Apr 26, 2007 7:51 pm

Lady Sheridan wrote:Wolverine would win against Batman, hands down. In the end, Batman's just a guy in a Kevlar suit with a lot of nifty tools. Wolverine is practically made of Kevlar.

It would be a vicious fight though, no doubt. Wolverine would be hurting by the end.


I hate to disagree with a lady, but all Bats needs to beat the hairball is a big electromagnet. Batman's smarter than Wolvie, period, and I would lay down money Wolvie'd say something stupid like "You can't break adamantium, bub!"
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