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Postby Leckomaniac on Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:39 pm

ONeillSG1 wrote:How long before he comes back? You can't get away with killing Captain America.

You just don't do it.


At the absolute latest he will be back by the time the movie comes out in 2009.
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Postby bastard_robo on Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:29 am

SO NOW WHAT THE FUCK!

BOTH THOR AND CAP ARE DEAD!!!!


DAMN YOU MARVEL!!!! MAKING ME SHELL OUT MORE CASH FOR YOUR INTERSTING STORYLINES AND PLOT TWISTS!



AND HOW IN THE FUCK DID THIS NOT GET SPOLIED???? NO ONE LEAKED THIS MONTHS AGO?
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Postby Leckomaniac on Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:39 am

bastard_robo wrote:SO NOW WHAT THE FUCK!

BOTH THOR AND CAP ARE DEAD!!!!


DAMN YOU MARVEL!!!! MAKING ME SHELL OUT MORE CASH FOR YOUR INTERSTING STORYLINES AND PLOT TWISTS!



AND HOW IN THE FUCK DID THIS NOT GET SPOLIED???? NO ONE LEAKED THIS MONTHS AGO?


Actually, this leaked on Newsarama's message boards a little over a week ago. But still, an impressive task nonetheless.

Also, did anyone just see the Colbert Report? Captain America was the subject of tonights "WORD". It was pretty funny.
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Postby ONeillSG1 on Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:37 am

Leckomaniac wrote:
ONeillSG1 wrote:How long before he comes back? You can't get away with killing Captain America.

You just don't do it.


At the absolute latest he will be back by the time the movie comes out in 2009.


NOT TOO SOON!!!

MUST BE QUICKER!

BRING BACK CAP SO WE CAN HAVE MORE OF THIS!!!

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J/K. I rather CAP be dead than in the hands of Liefield again.
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Postby bastard_robo on Fri Mar 09, 2007 2:37 am

ONeillSG1 wrote:
Leckomaniac wrote:[quote ="ONeillSG1"]How long before he comes back? You can't get away with killing Captain America.

You just don't do it.


At the absolute latest he will be back by the time the movie comes out in 2009.


NOT TOO SOON!!!

MUST BE QUICKER!

BRING BACK CAP SO WE CAN HAVE MORE OF THIS!!!

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J/K. I rather CAP be dead than in the hands of Liefield again.[/quote]

How in the hell dose that man get work???
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Postby DinoDeLaurentiis on Fri Mar 09, 2007 9:50 am

That picture... holy crappa she's a bad onna the so many levels, no?
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Postby MasterWhedon on Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:51 pm

Newsarama has Colbert's "Word" segment featuring Captain America up.
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Postby ONeillSG1 on Fri Mar 09, 2007 2:03 pm

And that is why Stephen Colbert won a Peabody. Brilliant.
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Postby Nordling on Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:36 pm

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Jesus Christ, Cap's got tits. This fetish artist work has got to stop. Just come the fuck out already.
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Postby minstrel on Mon Mar 12, 2007 6:42 pm

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Jesus Christ, Cap's got tits. This fetish artist work has got to stop. Just come the fuck out already.


This is the Worst Picture Ever Drawn. And Cap knows it - that's why he's looking at the artist with THAT expression.
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Postby RogueScribner on Mon Mar 12, 2007 7:33 pm

That's hot.
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Postby Leckomaniac on Mon Mar 12, 2007 8:21 pm

RogueScribner wrote:That's hot.


I am pretty sure you owe Paris Hilton like a dollar now. Didn't she TM that shit?
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Postby MasterWhedon on Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:32 pm

The New Captain America?

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Somewhere, wheredidigo is weeping with joy...

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Postby The Ginger Man on Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:38 pm

That is one gawd-awful looking costume.
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Postby minstrel on Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:47 pm

It's hideous. I'm so glad that the wonderful and wise folks at Marvel would never in a million years consider ANYTHING like that. So we don't have to worry at all - everything will be ALL RIGHT in the Marvel Universe. We can be absolutely confident of that.
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Postby Lord Voldemoo on Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:49 pm

I'd prefer this:

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Postby ONeillSG1 on Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:02 pm



I love it when people debate the important issues of the world.

Meanwhile, the only cool thing I got from that was this picture, now my wallpaper:

Undeniable evidence of the existance of a real Captain America? A government cover-up?
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Postby Leckomaniac on Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:36 pm

MasterWhedon wrote:The New Captain America?

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Somewhere, wheredidigo is weeping with joy...

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The best part of that story is this quote:

Some Guy On Newsarama wrote:MAX-Punisher would kick the crap out of Cap-Punisher for wearing this.


So very true.
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Postby burlivesleftnut on Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:43 pm

I kind of like the costume.
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Postby minstrel on Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:53 pm

burlivesleftnut wrote:I kind of like the costume.


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Postby Adam Balm on Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:56 pm

Leckomaniac wrote:
MasterWhedon wrote:The New Captain America?

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Somewhere, wheredidigo is weeping with joy...

Click the picture for more.


The best part of that story is this quote:

Some Guy On Newsarama wrote:MAX-Punisher would kick the crap out of Cap-Punisher for wearing this.


So very true.


Does anyone else get the feeling that this is more misdirection ala that pic we were shown that had Iron Man decked out in red-white-and-blue?
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Postby burlivesleftnut on Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:59 pm

I want to know why there is slime coming out of his asshole.
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Postby ONeillSG1 on Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:19 pm

Good question.
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Postby The Ginger Man on Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:31 pm

Where is this Red-White-Blue Iron Man? I never saw it.

The more I look at this picture, the more I wonder...Why would the Punisher put this much effort into his costume? Why would he arrange his bullets so they look like teeth? And why would he wear a mask when the giant, white skull on his chest basically translates to "Frank Castle is here to kill you!"

Just seems a bit much for a character who's motivations are so one-track, he murdered 2 villains in front of Captain America and didn't understand what he did wrong.

That being said, I really like the idea of the Punisher taking on Capt's mantle. But it should be the real Captain America mantel, not this..."thing." The Punisher has been 1-note for a looooong time. Having the character attempt redemption by walking in a greater man's shoes...that could be cool...as long as it doesn't become Batman/Azreal.

Of course, what would be more interesting is this: The Punisher says "fuck you" to redemption and begins hunting down the Government sanctioned villains (The Thunderbolts, I guess). He's so efficiant and ruthless that the US Government/SHIELD can't help but be impressed. They drop the registered villains, bring in Frank, and crown him the new, sanctioned Captain America for the modern day USA. With a government pardon and license to kill, Frank becomes a one-man American Army...destroying all in his path.

A government-sanctioned Punisher, openly killing villains in the guise of Captain America? Now that's a fucking scary, cool concept.
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Postby MasterWhedon on Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:46 pm

The Ginger Man wrote:Where is this Red-White-Blue Iron Man? I never saw it.

HERE is a small version of it.

It's just a re-colored version of Silvestri's cover for Civil War: The Initiative that was "leaked" as disinformation about the end of Civil War.

The Ginger Man wrote:Of course, what would be more interesting is this: The Punisher says "fuck you" to redemption and begins hunting down the Government sanctioned villains (The Thunderbolts, I guess). He's so efficiant and ruthless that the US Government/SHIELD can't help but be impressed. They drop the registered villains, bring in Frank, and crown him the new, sanctioned Captain America for the modern day USA. With a government pardon and license to kill, Frank becomes a one-man American Army...destroying all in his path.

A government-sanctioned Punisher, openly killing villains in the guise of Captain America? Now that's a fucking scary, cool concept.

The Punisher as a Thunderbolt!! I really like that idea.
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Postby The Ginger Man on Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:55 pm

burlivesleftnut wrote:I want to know why there is slim coming out of his asshole.


You know Slim. Always somewhere he shouldn't be. Crawling in 'n out a places man wasn't meant to crawl. That skinny, sonabitch ain't right.
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Postby Leckomaniac on Tue Mar 13, 2007 5:01 pm

The Ginger Man wrote:
burlivesleftnut wrote:I want to know why there is slim coming out of his asshole.


You know Slim. Always somewhere he shouldn't be. Crawling in 'n out a places man wasn't meant to crawl. That skinny, sonabitch ain't right.


Heh. Yeah, that's slim alright.
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Postby Adam Balm on Tue Mar 13, 2007 5:30 pm

MasterWhedon wrote:HERE is a small version of it.

It's just a re-colored version of Silvestri's cover for Civil War: The Initiative that was "leaked" as disinformation about the end of Civil War.


That's what made me suspicious, is that it's the same story with this cover. It's just an altered version of the Punisher: War Journal #7 cover.

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So I'm in kind of a 'fool me once...' mentality with this stuff now. Smells like more disinformation to me...
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Postby ONeillSG1 on Tue Mar 13, 2007 5:33 pm

The Ginger Man wrote:Where is this Red-White-Blue Iron Man? I never saw it.

The more I look at this picture, the more I wonder...Why would the Punisher put this much effort into his costume? Why would he arrange his bullets so they look like teeth? And why would he wear a mask when the giant, white skull on his chest basically translates to "Frank Castle is here to kill you!"

Just seems a bit much for a character who's motivations are so one-track, he murdered 2 villains in front of Captain America and didn't understand what he did wrong.

That being said, I really like the idea of the Punisher taking on Capt's mantle. But it should be the real Captain America mantel, not this..."thing." The Punisher has been 1-note for a looooong time. Having the character attempt redemption by walking in a greater man's shoes...that could be cool...as long as it doesn't become Batman/Azreal.

Of course, what would be more interesting is this: The Punisher says "fuck you" to redemption and begins hunting down the Government sanctioned villains (The Thunderbolts, I guess). He's so efficiant and ruthless that the US Government/SHIELD can't help but be impressed. They drop the registered villains, bring in Frank, and crown him the new, sanctioned Captain America for the modern day USA. With a government pardon and license to kill, Frank becomes a one-man American Army...destroying all in his path.

A government-sanctioned Punisher, openly killing villains in the guise of Captain America? Now that's a fucking scary, cool concept.


I would die if they did that. Sadly, they won't do it. They'd give Colbert a series as Captain America before that.
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Postby MasterWhedon on Thu Mar 15, 2007 4:01 pm

I read Civil War: The Confession last night, and it's actually a really nice, really fitting epilogue to the craziness of Civil War. Honestly, hearing Tony spell out his case for why he went to war was the most honest, most effective explanation we've seen thus far... and it felt like the thing Civil War proper needed to make you understand his rationale.

It's just a lot of talking, sure, but it works very well.
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Postby Leckomaniac on Thu Mar 15, 2007 4:03 pm

MasterWhedon wrote:I read Civil War: The Confession last night, and it's actually a really nice, really fitting epilogue to the craziness of Civil War. Honestly, hearing Tony spell out his case for why he went to war was the most honest, most effective explanation we've seen thus far... and it felt like the thing Civil War proper needed to make you understand his rationale.

It's just a lot of talking, sure, but it works very well.


I have heard that from just about everyone who has read it. It is a real shame they couldn't find a way to fit it into Civil War proper.
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Postby Leckomaniac on Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:01 pm

I just read The Confession. The King Arthur stuff was lame if you ask me, but the overall message worked really well. I think they could have very easily got the point across without the King Arthur thing and it would have made a world of difference.

If you remove that stuff, the Iron Man portion of this issue is beautiful. It He still acted like a grade A dick during Civil War, but this makes the pill slightly easier to swallow.

The Cap part of the issue bugged me. Just a few pages before he made Iron Man a well written fleshed out character...then he turns around and makes Iron Man go "Uh, Yeah" and "You're a SORE loser Captain America"...UGH!

Damn you Bendis. Damn you.
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Postby Fried Gold on Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:37 pm

The whole Civil War story summed up in one image:

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Postby minstrel on Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:41 pm

FG, that is definitely a powerful image. I never read the Civil War comics, but this is just about enough to make me go looking for them.
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Postby Fried Gold on Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:52 pm

You've missed my clever use of satire....one of the many comedy tools I'll be using all week.
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Postby minstrel on Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:13 pm

Fried Gold wrote:You've missed my clever use of satire....one of the many comedy tools I'll be using all week.


Satire is not my forte. Neither, for that matter, is comedy. Frumpiness, though, I've pretty much got covered.
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Postby Adam Balm on Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:43 pm

Fried Gold wrote:You've missed my clever use of satire....one of the many comedy tools I'll be using all week.


That joke...it wasn't worth it.

THE END.
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Postby burlivesleftnut on Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:52 pm

Adam Balm wrote:
Fried Gold wrote:You've missed my clever use of satire....one of the many comedy tools I'll be using all week.


That joke...it wasn't worth it.

THE END.


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Postby ONeillSG1 on Fri Mar 16, 2007 11:38 pm

Fried Gold wrote:You've missed my clever use of satire....one of the many comedy tools I'll be using all week.


Was it "the end"?

I suck at picture puzzles.
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Postby buster00 on Sat Mar 17, 2007 2:44 pm

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Fried Gold wrote:You've missed my clever use of satire....one of the many comedy tools I'll be using all week.


Was it "the end"?

I suck at picture puzzles.


FG seems to be saying of the series as a whole, "It wasn't worth it."


It's still a kewl picture, though.


OK, here's my speculation. Three words. Life. Model. Decoy.

My money says Steve Rogers is sippin' cognac in some bunker with Nick Fury until the heat blows over.
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Postby minstrel on Sat Mar 17, 2007 4:19 pm

My guess is that there's a hitherto-unseen property of super-soldier serum that enables him to survive. It'll restart his heart or something. Prevent brain damage in the absence of oxygen for a very long time. The doctors will be able to bring him back, and he'll be BETTER THAN EVER!

Or a zombie. Super-soldier zombie.
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Postby Adam Balm on Sun Mar 18, 2007 8:43 pm

Well, it looks to be confirmed now..

Punisher: War Journal #4....

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PUNISHER WAR JOURNAL #8
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Pencils and Cover by ARIEL OLIVETTI
It's part 3 of “Blood and Sand,â€
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Postby burlivesleftnut on Sun Mar 18, 2007 9:23 pm

That nazi asshole doesn't stand a chance! He just had two knives and a lot of antisemitism on his side, but the Punisher has TWO utility belts (four if you count the shoulder rigging) and all of American behind him!
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Postby Bob Samonkey on Sun Mar 18, 2007 9:30 pm

Fried Gold wrote:You've missed my clever use of satire....one of the many comedy tools I'll be using all week.


Ooo!! I can't wait for comedic pantomime!!!
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Postby buster00 on Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:09 am

Bob Poopflingius Maximus wrote:
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Ooo!! I can't wait for comedic pantomime!!!


I can't wait for the racial stereotypes!!!
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Postby burlivesleftnut on Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:16 am

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