Batman 3 Discussion Thread

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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby theBsharps on Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:49 am

I want to discuss catwoman as well but i wanted to state first i don't believe two-face is dead. I believe there taking the dark victory approach as stated above.It would make sense if batman is dealing with the crime families. Now in the case of catwoman if there dealing with the crime famileies she would work, but not as a main villain in face she shouldn't even really be a villain. Catwoman in dark victory is along the lines of falcones bastard daughter so shed be tied into that type of story. Have her on the side i think itd be really cool.
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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby instant_karma on Thu Jul 24, 2008 3:29 pm

Just got back from seeing this. I also think Two-Face's final fate has been left open ended. It's a comic book movie, so unless somebody is actually pronounced dead, I work on the assumption that they're still alive. Hell, even if they are declared dead, I figure that means there's only a 50% chance that they've actually kicked the bucket. And all they'd have to do in a future movie to keep him alive without it contradicting Batman's sacrifice in order to preserve Dent's reputation is to say that the fall left him in a coma, which he can conveniently emerge from if he's needed to menace Gotham in the future.

So, did anybody else wish Brian Blessed had been in this movie in some role, just so that when the masked driver is revealed to be Jim, he could loudly exclaim 'Gordon's Alive!?'
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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby Worst Part's Almost Over on Thu Jul 24, 2008 3:32 pm

instant_karma wrote:So, did anybody else wish Brian Blessed had been in this movie in some role, just so that when the masked driver is revealed to be Jim, he could loudly exclaim 'Gordon's Alive!?'


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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby burlivesleftnut on Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:14 pm

HAhahhahAHhA That would have been brilliant!
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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby Worst Part's Almost Over on Fri Jul 25, 2008 4:39 pm

burlivesleftnut wrote:HAhahhahAHhA That would have been brilliant!


I hope to god that when the movie hits DVD, someone splices that into it and sticks it on YouTube :mrgreen:
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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby Worst Part's Almost Over on Fri Jul 25, 2008 5:03 pm

Well well...possibly a really cool suggestion for the theme of Batman 3 - from IGN no less:

''Given the ending of TDK, the most obvious antagonist for Batman to face in a third film would be Jim Gordon and the GCPD. With Batman now a wanted murderer (a cop killer to boot), it would make sense for the public and politicians to demand the GCPD bring in Batman once and for all. But seeing as how Batman has made short work of the cops in the past, they would need help catching him. The Mayor (or perhaps Boss Rupert Thorne) could demand that they bring in a hired gun to help get the job done. Enter the Riddler, who is currently portrayed in the comics as a good bad guy who helps the cops crack cases. He possesses a superior intellect and proves it by solving mysteries.

The trick with the Riddler is not portraying him as a Joker wannabe or a garish buffoon. By making him Batman's intellectual equivalent and a possible replacement hero for the city, he becomes more of a threat to Batman. What if Edward Nygma is brought in to find out who Batman really is and help the cops get him, but he secretly has his own nefarious agenda?''


I can see this working - the cops turning to a different 'freak' for help instead of Batman. Would it be sacrilage to suggest Hunt The Dark Knight for a title? :-P
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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby RogueScribner on Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:56 pm

It's better than Hunt the Wumpus, I suppose.
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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby Nachokoolaid on Fri Jul 25, 2008 8:04 pm

Hunt FOR the Dark Knight sounds better to me.

But I doubt it will be something like that. And I think Two-Face is still alive and will show up in a major role in the third film.
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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby Chairman Kaga on Fri Jul 25, 2008 8:38 pm

Worst Part's Almost Over wrote:Well well...possibly a really cool suggestion for the theme of Batman 3 - from IGN no less:

''Given the ending of TDK, the most obvious antagonist for Batman to face in a third film would be Jim Gordon and the GCPD. With Batman now a wanted murderer (a cop killer to boot), it would make sense for the public and politicians to demand the GCPD bring in Batman once and for all. But seeing as how Batman has made short work of the cops in the past, they would need help catching him. The Mayor (or perhaps Boss Rupert Thorne) could demand that they bring in a hired gun to help get the job done. Enter the Riddler, who is currently portrayed in the comics as a good bad guy who helps the cops crack cases. He possesses a superior intellect and proves it by solving mysteries.

The trick with the Riddler is not portraying him as a Joker wannabe or a garish buffoon. By making him Batman's intellectual equivalent and a possible replacement hero for the city, he becomes more of a threat to Batman. What if Edward Nygma is brought in to find out who Batman really is and help the cops get him, but he secretly has his own nefarious agenda?''


I can see this working - the cops turning to a different 'freak' for help instead of Batman. Would it be sacrilage to suggest Hunt The Dark Knight for a title? :-P

I was thinking similarly along those lines. Nygma's obsession grows throughout the film while he tries to Batman's identity. To the point where he is staging perilous situations by putting Gotham city residents at great risk to draw Batman out of hiding. How you could wedge Dent and the Mob in there I am not sure.
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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby Evil Hobbit on Sat Jul 26, 2008 6:10 pm

Chairman Kaga wrote:
Worst Part's Almost Over wrote:Well well...possibly a really cool suggestion for the theme of Batman 3 - from IGN no less:

''Given the ending of TDK, the most obvious antagonist for Batman to face in a third film would be Jim Gordon and the GCPD. With Batman now a wanted murderer (a cop killer to boot), it would make sense for the public and politicians to demand the GCPD bring in Batman once and for all. But seeing as how Batman has made short work of the cops in the past, they would need help catching him. The Mayor (or perhaps Boss Rupert Thorne) could demand that they bring in a hired gun to help get the job done. Enter the Riddler, who is currently portrayed in the comics as a good bad guy who helps the cops crack cases. He possesses a superior intellect and proves it by solving mysteries.

The trick with the Riddler is not portraying him as a Joker wannabe or a garish buffoon. By making him Batman's intellectual equivalent and a possible replacement hero for the city, he becomes more of a threat to Batman. What if Edward Nygma is brought in to find out who Batman really is and help the cops get him, but he secretly has his own nefarious agenda?''


I can see this working - the cops turning to a different 'freak' for help instead of Batman. Would it be sacrilage to suggest Hunt The Dark Knight for a title? :-P

I was thinking similarly along those lines. Nygma's obsession grows throughout the film while he tries to Batman's identity. To the point where he is staging perilous situations by putting Gotham city residents at great risk to draw Batman out of hiding. How you could wedge Dent and the Mob in there I am not sure.


That's a very interesting angle. Specially the hunt on Batman. This could also attract bounty hunters to Gotham. Like Deadshot. Who already appeared in Gotham Knights. His harsh and to the point hunting might mix well with the more tactical approaches of Nygma. Plan's get mixed, ambitions get strangled, chaos erupts. I'd call it Gotham Central, like the Brubaker comics. Lots of focuss on the police department.
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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby Worst Part's Almost Over on Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:56 pm

Angelina Jolie wants to play Catwoman

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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby RogueScribner on Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:29 am

If you believe the National Enquirer, Johnny Depp is going to be the Riddler in the next movie and Philip Seymour Hoffman is in negotiations to play the Penguin.

Um, yeah. :roll:
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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby papalazeru on Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:42 am

RogueScribner wrote:If you believe the National Enquirer, Johnny Depp is going to be the Riddler in the next movie and Philip Seymour Hoffman is in negotiations to play the Penguin.

Um, yeah. :roll:


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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby Nachokoolaid on Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:31 pm

RogueScribner wrote:If you believe the National Enquirer, Johnny Depp is going to be the Riddler in the next movie and Philip Seymour Hoffman is in negotiations to play the Penguin.

Um, yeah. :roll:


The Dark Knight writer David Goyer revealed earlier this month that future sequels in the superhero franchise wouldn't involve Catwoman or The Penguin.


I think that clears that up.
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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby RogueScribner on Sun Aug 03, 2008 2:21 am

Is Goyer still involved? He had little to do with TDK, didn't he?
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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby Nachokoolaid on Sun Aug 03, 2008 2:54 am

He and Nolan planned out a three part story arc. I have to assume that's still what Nolan is following since Goyer was given a story credit on TDK.
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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby RogueScribner on Sun Aug 03, 2008 3:00 am

Yeah, but I thought that 3 part story arc involved the Joker being in parts 2 and 3 and Dent not becoming Two Face until the final film? So anything can happen in the 3rd movie since everything was condenced down to TDK.
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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby Nachokoolaid on Sun Aug 03, 2008 2:09 pm

RogueScribner wrote:Yeah, but I thought that 3 part story arc involved the Joker being in parts 2 and 3 and Dent not becoming Two Face until the final film? So anything can happen in the 3rd movie since everything was condenced down to TDK.


I never saw this confirmed anywhere. But I doubt that they planned on only using Dent in TDK and saving Two Face for the third. They obviously didn't follow that path, so I just have a hard time believing that was the plan.
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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby travis-dane on Sun Aug 03, 2008 3:44 pm

Nachokoolaid wrote:
RogueScribner wrote:Yeah, but I thought that 3 part story arc involved the Joker being in parts 2 and 3 and Dent not becoming Two Face until the final film? So anything can happen in the 3rd movie since everything was condenced down to TDK.


I never saw this confirmed anywhere. But I doubt that they planned on only using Dent in TDK and saving Two Face for the third. They obviously didn't follow that path, so I just have a hard time believing that was the plan.


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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby SilentBobX on Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:09 pm

If they're going to have the Riddler and Penguin in Batman 3, my vote goes for Simon Pegg and Nick Frost to play those roles, respectively. It's perfect casting, imho.

Also, I'm hearing negativity in re: to letting any 'superpowered' villains in the third film. The main worry is that it'll take the believability out of the series and make it campy. I'm not sure of this, but the concern at any rate is valid. My hope is that they go for 2 or 3 villains who've not had any time in the spotlight and would get some cred and be rebooted. To be honest, we've seen the old rogues gallery enough and I'd like to see some fresh blood. Firefly, Deadshot, and even Bane would have to be considered if that's the case. The first 2 I'd love to see more than Bane however. Yes I know Bane was in the neon turdfest Batman and Robin but then again it's merely conjecture at this point. I only bring him up because he's one of the few non-superpowered villains with an air of believability(somewhat).

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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby buster00 on Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:27 pm

Way back before Eckhart was cast, people were speculating that Guy Pearce might play Harvey Dent. Now, I'm thinking he'd make a good Riddler.

I like the idea of Phillip Seymour Hoffman playing Penguin, but isn't he a bit too tall?
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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby Chairman Kaga on Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:42 pm

Much like Jackman as Wolverine I prefer someone who pulls off the character than someone who resembles the character in exact physical dimensions.
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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby Worst Part's Almost Over on Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:03 pm

Chairman Kaga wrote:Much like Jackman as Wolverine I prefer someone who pulls off the character than someone who resembles the character in exact physical dimensions.


Totally agree with you mate. And I think we all learned that lesson with Ledger as The Joker. I certainly wasn't convinced when that casting was first announced and I've been a fan of Ledger for years.
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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby Chairman Kaga on Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:19 pm

Worst Part's Almost Over wrote:
Chairman Kaga wrote:Much like Jackman as Wolverine I prefer someone who pulls off the character than someone who resembles the character in exact physical dimensions.


Totally agree with you mate. And I think we all learned that lesson with Ledger as The Joker. I certainly wasn't convinced when that casting was first announced and I've been a fan of Ledger for years.

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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby Worst Part's Almost Over on Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:49 am

From the mothersite:

Moriarty wrote:First, let’s talk about BATMAN 3.

Or better yet, let’s not. For about a year. Since that’s the earliest you’ll hear anything that could remotely be called news about characters or casting or the script or anything. A year from now. Not next week. Not next month. It will be a while.

Christopher Nolan’s next film will not be about Batman. I think you can pretty much count on that. And until Christopher Nolan officially says, “I’m not making another Batman film,” no one else is going to. He is absolutely, 100% going to be given first refusal on the next film, and right now, that’s it. That’s all the news there is.

I repeat... so we’re clear... Christopher Nolan has not decided what to do next. And he is not signed to make another Batman film yet.

So that means no script. No story. No anything. No creative choices have been made about what to do with the next film. Right now, Warner Bros. is busy making party hats out of $1000 bills, counting all the silly, silly, silly DARK KNIGHT money they’re making, and that’s it.

When someone tells you Johnny Depp is “signed” to play The Riddler, feel free to laugh in their face.

When someone tells you Philip Seymour Hoffman is “signed” to play The Penguin, ask them if it’s just as true this time as it was when it was a DARK KNIGHT rumor two years ago. Then laugh in their face.

When someone tells you anything about Catwoman or recasting The Joker or Clayface or Man-Bat or Killer Croc or ANYTHING... just brush it off.

Because it’s not true. It’s just not. No matter how much you want it to be. No matter how many times it gets reprinted for no reason. No matter how many photoshopped “costume tests” start floating around.

It’s just not happening. Yet.

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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby Fried Gold on Thu Aug 07, 2008 1:11 pm

And apparently it took some of you 7 pages of tripe to figure that out.
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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby Worst Part's Almost Over on Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:51 pm

Fried Gold wrote:And apparently it took some of you 7 pages of tripe to figure that out.


No, it took seven pages of discussion about what we'd like to see in a future Batman film before confirmation of no current development was, well, confirmed. But nobody in this thread has said they think the film is already in development anyway or even that they think Chris Nolan is already thinking about Batman 3. So what's your point FG? Do you even have one? Or were you just hoping to once again come across as offensive?
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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby hackett on Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:41 pm

What about Chris Mintz as the Riddler?

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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby buster00 on Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:50 pm

hackett wrote:What about Chris Mintz as the Riddler?


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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby tapehead on Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:57 pm

Worst Part's Almost Over wrote:
Fried Gold wrote:And apparently it took some of you 7 pages of tripe to figure that out.


No, it took seven pages of discussion about what we'd like to see in a future Batman film before confirmation of no current development was, well, confirmed. But nobody in this thread has said they think the film is already in development anyway or even that they think Chris Nolan is already thinking about Batman 3. So what's your point FG? Do you even have one? Or were you just hoping to once again come across as offensive?



Hey now, relax buddy - at least we can all agree that cinemablend.com is full of shit and should be treated as such, right?
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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby Heyoucantlaughatthat on Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:23 am

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Dozens of posts and not one person throws up an LoL? Criminal. I pissed myself laughing.

I wish Nolan would start working on Batman 3, but if he wants to make another crazy cool flick like the Prestige between Batman installments, fine by me.
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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby Tyrone_Shoelaces on Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:14 am

That is pretty funny, in a "Ha ha, your parents are dead" kind of way.
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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby hackett on Fri Aug 08, 2008 4:58 pm

Robin: A time bomb? Ok, that could have blown us up… but wait a Riddle from The Riddler?
Riddler: Yeah.
Robin: The Riddler? What kind of a stupid name is that, Riddler? What, are you trying to be a character on Fraggle Rock?
Riddler: Naw, this name rocks.
Batman: And you landed on The Riddler?
Riddler: Yeah. It was between that or Black Mask.
Batman: Why the FUCK would it be between THAT or Black Mask ? Why don't you just pick a common name like a normal criminal!
Riddler: Black Mask is like the most commonly used name on Earth. Read a fucking comic book for once.
Robin: Riddler, have you actually ever met anyone named Black Mask?
Riddler: Have YOU actually ever met anyone named The Riddler?
Batman: No, that's why you picked a dumb fucking name!
Riddler: Fuck you.
Batman: Gimme that. All right, you look like a future pedophile in your tight green spandex covered in question marks. . Number 2: Your whole fucking name is Edward E Nygma. Don’t you get that people will figure out that your are the fucking Riddler!
Robin: What? Your name is Edward E Nygma and You come up with Riddles to defeat me and Batman!
Batman: Riddler, why would I bother to solve this fucking Riddle? Why wouldn’t you just leave a bomb with a timer on it and not leave clues for me to find you?
Riddler: Batman, Batman, Batman. Listen up, ass-face: every day, hundreds of people try to secretly rob Wayne Enterprises…. Break in through the front doors and steal something, and every single one tries to beat you up and fails. Pssh, how many regular robbers do you think there are in this town? It's called fucking strategy, all right?
Robin: Stay calm, okay? Let's not lose our heads. It's... it's fine ; it'll... it's gonna work. It's passable, okay? This isn't terrible. I mean, it's up to you, Riddler. The police are going to think ‘here’s another guy who is going to get ass raped by the Joker in Arkham Asylum or 'Here's The Riddler, a mastermind who leaves us crazy clues that we must solve and figure out to find him'. Okay? So what's it gonna be?
Riddler: [grinning] ... I am The Riddler!
Batman: No you're not. No one's the Riddler! The Riddler never existed because that's a made up dumb FUCKING FAIRY TALE NAME, YOU FUCK!
Robin : Take off the question mark jacket, you look like you’re going to sell something on an infomerical.
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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby Brian Fantana on Sat Aug 09, 2008 4:12 pm

I still say Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson would be the perfect guy to play Bane. He has that South American look (even though I realize he's not) and he has the body for it. I think he could fit in to the story arc someone suggested about Batman being hunted by the cops and someone hiring hitmen to catch him. Bane's whole deal early on I think was that he saw Batman has a big challenge and wanted to defeat him. The third movie would be all about hunting Batman.
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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby Worst Part's Almost Over on Sat Aug 09, 2008 7:05 pm

Brian Fantana wrote:I still say Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson would be the perfect guy to play Bane. He has that South American look (even though I realize he's not) and he has the body for it. I think he could fit in to the story arc someone suggested about Batman being hunted by the cops and someone hiring hitmen to catch him. Bane's whole deal early on I think was that he saw Batman has a big challenge and wanted to defeat him. The third movie would be all about hunting Batman.


The only issue I can see there is that Bane wouldn't exactly be working alongside Gotham's Finest, would he? He's not a man who will work for just anyone. Unless the character was altered to make him simply a hired thug. But I think that would be a bad play as Bane is a very detailed character worth exploring on a broader scope.
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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby Brian Fantana on Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:29 am

Worst Part's Almost Over wrote:
Brian Fantana wrote:I still say Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson would be the perfect guy to play Bane. He has that South American look (even though I realize he's not) and he has the body for it. I think he could fit in to the story arc someone suggested about Batman being hunted by the cops and someone hiring hitmen to catch him. Bane's whole deal early on I think was that he saw Batman has a big challenge and wanted to defeat him. The third movie would be all about hunting Batman.


The only issue I can see there is that Bane wouldn't exactly be working alongside Gotham's Finest, would he? He's not a man who will work for just anyone. Unless the character was altered to make him simply a hired thug. But I think that would be a bad play as Bane is a very detailed character worth exploring on a broader scope.


That's true. Even he's not a "hitman" and just another guy hunting Batman just for the sport (which I think is his storyline anyway?), it would be great.
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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby Heyoucantlaughatthat on Sun Aug 10, 2008 10:09 am

They could make Bane an ex UFC fighter who had been hitting the juice (steroids) too hard, so came up with his own concoction, Venom, and decided to become a criminal since the Venom made him nearly unstoppable. They would have to treat Venom like a steroid, not magic strength juice. Also, Bane would probably just never happen.
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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby Worst Part's Almost Over on Sun Aug 10, 2008 10:11 am

Heyoucantlaughatthat wrote:Also, Bane would probably just never happen.


Highly probable mate. Can't see Nolan being interested in the character.
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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby hackett on Sun Aug 10, 2008 3:40 pm

the problem with Bane is that he's like a lesser version of Clayface. The average Batman fan wouldn't be shocked by an inhuman character coming out to battle Batman. The first two Batman films have been more of mind game challenges for the Bats. For him to deal w/ a physical only menace is a bit boring. I think the bigger storyline of Knightfall was that Batman was injecting himself with roids for some time but decided to give it up.

He needs to have a challenger of the mind ...at least in nolan verse to be acceptable.
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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby buster00 on Sun Aug 10, 2008 3:58 pm

hackett wrote:He needs to have a challenger of the mind ...at least in nolan verse to be acceptable.


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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby TheButcher on Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:01 pm

I would rather see Deathstroke or Deadshot.
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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby Retardo_Montalban on Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:18 am

The thing about bringing another villain who's going to be dueling wits with Batman is that it'll be a rehash of the first 2 movies. Also, the Bane storyline wouldn't be so much about Batman versus Bane as Batman versus his mortality and Batman versus his flawed successor, Raziel. Bane's just a catalyst to get the real story going. Bane can be any guy drunk on the juice. The original character of Bane is so two dimensional that Nolan can literally make the character into anything he wants. He's like a blank slate that you can write any pathos into that you want. I do like the idea of Deadshot though. IF anyone is going to hire some thug to kill off Batman it'll probably be Eric Roberts as Salvatore Maroni.
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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby Moriarty on Mon Aug 11, 2008 4:21 am

I am a fool.

The first time I saw the LI'L BRUCE WAYNE cover, I didn't get it. I scanned past it.

Then I saw it again. And I reeeeeeeeeally looked at it.

"Final issue," eh?

Laughed till I cried. Best comic cover ever.
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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby Worst Part's Almost Over on Mon Aug 11, 2008 7:23 am

Retardo_Montalban wrote:the Bane storyline wouldn't be so much about Batman versus Bane as Batman versus his mortality and Batman versus his flawed successor, Raziel.


It couldn't be done though mate. That's at least 2 more films that would be required for setting up Jean-Paul Valley's background, then his transformation into Azrael, then him joining Batman, and so on and so on, before you even get to Bane breaking the Batman. You couldn't do all that in a third Batman film alone.
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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby hackett on Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:39 pm

Azrael's (aka jean paul valley) storyline is more complex than him just hiring a successor. It's about other super heroes (Superman, Green Lantern) talking about Bat's actual mental state. It's about Nightwing getting shafted from taking over and Tim / Robin going solo. Unless they do a huge flash forward, Bruce will be relatively young in the 3rd movie. It will be his 2nd/3rd year. The Knightfall storyline really takes on Bruce giving up a mantle that he was accustomed to having for a long time.

I thought the Knightfall storyline was boring. Azrael was a tool in all cases. I'm not even sure why he had as much of a supernatural backstory as he did, but the writers gave it to him.

I wouldn't mind deadshot / deathstroke but in the realistic world, wouldn't Batman get shot in the head and die. I remember hating colin farrel's character in Daredevil. It's a good character in comic form but horrible to watch in a movie. The only problem with The Riddler is that he doesn't pose a threat to Gotham... so it's not really a story about Batman : the protector. Two Face is in the same realm...he's not putting that many innocent people at risk...he is simply playing his own angel of death against corrupt cops and mobsters.

List of people in my head that are threats to Gothamites

1) Poison Ivy : but too unrealistic for the series...at least right now
2) Hangman / Calendar : both are characters that haven't been explored... with Dawes replacing Dent's wife... not sure if it could go by canon
3) Catwoman : she only really poses a threat to those who commit crimes against animals...
4) Black Mask : controls the criminal underworld, hates bruce wayne as much as batman
5) Firefly : He's a pyro maniac but really doesn't pose a threat .. more of a henchman turned supervillain
6) Mad Hatter : actually this one could be interesting...a storyline about hypnosis could be cool...but that might be too similar to Dr. Crane
7) Hugo Strange : see above (and he's less cool)
8) Mr. Freeze , i'll be dead when he's being shown again on the big screen
9) Penguin : no real threat to humanity / gotham or even batman
10) Scarface : a talking puppet? eck
11) Mr. Zsaz : we saw him for a split-second in the first movie.... and we know he's on the loose... only problem is that he's crazy and doesn't really fill time up w/ dialogue
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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby TheButcher on Mon Aug 11, 2008 2:32 pm

From MTV: Joss Whedon Talks About His ‘Batman’ Movie That Never Was
Never let it be said that superstar writer/director/rabid fanboy Joss Whedon was the type to rest on his laurels. Clearly not content with his work on such fan-favorite franchises like “Buffy,” “Serenity” and the upcoming “Dollhouse,” Whedon regaled MTV News with the details of his proposed plan to reboot the “Batman” film franchise before Director Christopher Nolan got the gig.

“Well, I actually did pitch a ‘Batman’ film when [Warner Bros. began developing "Batman Begins"], and it wasn’t what they did but the vibe was very similar,” said Whedon. “Mine was a bit less epic. It was more about the progression of him and it was more in Gotham City. He didn’t go to Tibet and meet cool people, but it was very similar in vibe [to Nolan's "Batman Begins"].”

After a little prodding, Whedon opened up a bit about his “Batman” idea, even going into detail about what villain he planned on using…or not using.

“In my version, there was actually a new [villain], it wasn’t one of the classics — which is probably why they didn’t use it,” he laughed. “It was more of a ‘Hannibal Lector’ type — he was somebody already in Arkham Asylum that Bruce went and sort of studied with. It was a whole thing — I get very emotional about it, I still love the story. Maybe I’ll get to do it as a comic one day [ed. note: HINT HINT, DC Comics... ].”

Despite losing out to Nolan, Whedon has no hard feelings, and gave nothing but praise to the Director Who Can Do No Wrong. “I just love the respect [Nolan has] for the character and the world,” he said. “I thought Christopher Nolan’s done an amazing job of bringing out the comic book, and I see a lot of movies [coughs “HULK”] — sorry, I had a Hulk stuck in my throat — that don’t really have the aesthetic or the pathos or really get why the comic book works.”


Should Nolan create a new villain for Batman 3?
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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby travis-dane on Mon Aug 11, 2008 2:39 pm

TheButcher wrote:From MTV: Joss Whedon Talks About His ‘Batman’ Movie That Never Was
Never let it be said that superstar writer/director/rabid fanboy Joss Whedon was the type to rest on his laurels. Clearly not content with his work on such fan-favorite franchises like “Buffy,” “Serenity” and the upcoming “Dollhouse,” Whedon regaled MTV News with the details of his proposed plan to reboot the “Batman” film franchise before Director Christopher Nolan got the gig.

“Well, I actually did pitch a ‘Batman’ film when [Warner Bros. began developing "Batman Begins"], and it wasn’t what they did but the vibe was very similar,” said Whedon. “Mine was a bit less epic. It was more about the progression of him and it was more in Gotham City. He didn’t go to Tibet and meet cool people, but it was very similar in vibe [to Nolan's "Batman Begins"].”

After a little prodding, Whedon opened up a bit about his “Batman” idea, even going into detail about what villain he planned on using…or not using.

“In my version, there was actually a new [villain], it wasn’t one of the classics — which is probably why they didn’t use it,” he laughed. “It was more of a ‘Hannibal Lector’ type — he was somebody already in Arkham Asylum that Bruce went and sort of studied with. It was a whole thing — I get very emotional about it, I still love the story. Maybe I’ll get to do it as a comic one day [ed. note: HINT HINT, DC Comics... ].”

Despite losing out to Nolan, Whedon has no hard feelings, and gave nothing but praise to the Director Who Can Do No Wrong. “I just love the respect [Nolan has] for the character and the world,” he said. “I thought Christopher Nolan’s done an amazing job of bringing out the comic book, and I see a lot of movies [coughs “HULK”] — sorry, I had a Hulk stuck in my throat — that don’t really have the aesthetic or the pathos or really get why the comic book works.”


Should Nolan create a new villain for Batman 3?


It could work,the Nolan brothers seem to know what they are doing with the Batman Franchise.
But after seeing what they did with the Joker and TwoFace,I think they could "re-work" an bad guy we allready have seen.
I just dont know which one.
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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby Fried Gold on Mon Aug 11, 2008 2:42 pm

If you want something even remotely concrete on this - read what David Goyer has said.
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Re: Batman 3 Discussion Thread

Postby Brian Fantana on Mon Aug 11, 2008 4:27 pm

When he says "someone we've never heard of" does that mean a completely new villain or just a very obscure one? Could be interesting.
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