
Despite the long-standing presence in pop culture, however, "Ranger" has not enjoyed success in modern times. The character's most recent shot at the big screen, 1981's "The Legend of the Lone Ranger," failed so badly that the film's star, Klinton Spilsbury, never worked in Hollywood again. In 2003, WB Network aired a TV movie that served as a backdoor pilot, but it also bit the dust.
Part of the problems are the character's tropes -- wearing a mask, using only silver bullets, a creed that includes not killing your fellow man, the exclamation "Hi-yo Silver, away!" -- which can seem musty to today's audiences.
Rossio and Elliott, however, do have experience bringing back genres that seemed passe. The CAA-repped duo wrote "The Mask of Zorro," the hit adventure movie featuring one of the Ranger's contemporaries, as well as Disney's "Pirates" franchise, which breathed new life into the old skull and crossbones.

TheButcher wrote:The Lone Ranger?!
Ted Elliott and Terry Rossio are in negotiations to bring the Lone Ranger back to the big screen.
From Latino Review and Hollywood Reporter:Despite the long-standing presence in pop culture, however, "Ranger" has not enjoyed success in modern times. The character's most recent shot at the big screen, 1981's "The Legend of the Lone Ranger," failed so badly that the film's star, Klinton Spilsbury, never worked in Hollywood again. In 2003, WB Network aired a TV movie that served as a backdoor pilot, but it also bit the dust.
Part of the problems are the character's tropes -- wearing a mask, using only silver bullets, a creed that includes not killing your fellow man, the exclamation "Hi-yo Silver, away!" -- which can seem musty to today's audiences.
Rossio and Elliott, however, do have experience bringing back genres that seemed passe. The CAA-repped duo wrote "The Mask of Zorro," the hit adventure movie featuring one of the Ranger's contemporaries, as well as Disney's "Pirates" franchise, which breathed new life into the old skull and crossbones.



Hey, everyone. "Moriarty" here.
Beaks just called me to say that there was another major tease at the end of today's all-day Disney event, also involving Johnny Depp.
At the very end of the presentation, the USC Marching Band came out to play "The William Tell Overture" as Disney made the official announcement about THE LONE RANGER. As Jerry Bruckheimer asked, "Who could possibly play the Lone Ranger?" Johnny Depp snuck out onstage behind him, dressed as Captain Jack Sparrow, but wearing a very familiar black mask over his eyes as well.
Is that an announcement? Not exactly, but it sounds like Disney's in the Depp business in a big way, and I'm guessing we'll hear a hearty "HI-YO, SILVER, AWAAAAAY!" out of him in a few years time.
We'll have much more about today's event from Beaks as soon as he can get to his computer.

Ribbons wrote:Ah snap!Hey, everyone. "Moriarty" here.
Beaks just called me to say that there was another major tease at the end of today's all-day Disney event, also involving Johnny Depp.
At the very end of the presentation, the USC Marching Band came out to play "The William Tell Overture" as Disney made the official announcement about THE LONE RANGER. As Jerry Bruckheimer asked, "Who could possibly play the Lone Ranger?" Johnny Depp snuck out onstage behind him, dressed as Captain Jack Sparrow, but wearing a very familiar black mask over his eyes as well.
Is that an announcement? Not exactly, but it sounds like Disney's in the Depp business in a big way, and I'm guessing we'll hear a hearty "HI-YO, SILVER, AWAAAAAY!" out of him in a few years time.
We'll have much more about today's event from Beaks as soon as he can get to his computer.


Lord Voldemoo wrote:Ribbons wrote:Ah snap!Hey, everyone. "Moriarty" here.
Beaks just called me to say that there was another major tease at the end of today's all-day Disney event, also involving Johnny Depp.
At the very end of the presentation, the USC Marching Band came out to play "The William Tell Overture" as Disney made the official announcement about THE LONE RANGER. As Jerry Bruckheimer asked, "Who could possibly play the Lone Ranger?" Johnny Depp snuck out onstage behind him, dressed as Captain Jack Sparrow, but wearing a very familiar black mask over his eyes as well.
Is that an announcement? Not exactly, but it sounds like Disney's in the Depp business in a big way, and I'm guessing we'll hear a hearty "HI-YO, SILVER, AWAAAAAY!" out of him in a few years time.
We'll have much more about today's event from Beaks as soon as he can get to his computer.
neato.
Jesus, how many movies is he in in the next 5 years???




RogueScribner wrote:Why the eye roll, Fievel?







Fievel wrote:RogueScribner wrote:Why the eye roll, Fievel?
Because I'm sure that there is a decent number of full-blooded (or close) Native American actors out there looking for work.
But no, they need The Name.
I hear Disney is looking to court Leonardo DiCaprio to play Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. as well.


Fievel wrote:It depends on the role.
If the role is that of a Native American, someone who at least resembles a Native American should play the part.
Morgan Freeman is a good actor.
However, I wouldn't cast him as Adolph Hitler.


I Hated Tonto (Still Do)
http://www.fallsapart.com/tonto.html
by Sherman Alexie
Los Angeles Times, June 28 1998
Commentary: Sherman Alexie recalls growing up with stereotype movie Indians — and loving them, wanting to be them. (Well, most of them.)
I was a little Spokane Indian boy who read every book and saw every movie about Indians, no matter how terrible. I'd read those historical romance novels about the stereotypical Indian warrior ravaging the virginal white schoolteacher.
I can still see the cover art.
The handsome, blue-eyed warrior (the Indians in romance novels are always blue-eyed because half-breeds are somehow sexier than full-blooded Indians) would be nuzzling (the Indians in romance novels are always performing acts that are described in animalistic terms) the impossibly pale neck of a white woman as she reared her head back in primitive ecstasy (the Indians in romance novels always inspire white women to commit acts of primitive ecstasy).
Of course, after reading such novels, I imagined myself to be a blue-eyed warrior nuzzling the necks of various random, primitive and ecstatic white women.
And I just as often imagined myself to be a cinematic Indian, splattered with Day-Glo Hollywood war paint as I rode off into yet another battle against the latest actor to portray Gen. George Armstrong Custer.
But I never, not once, imagined myself to be Tonto.
I hated Tonto then and I hate him now.
However, despite my hatred of Tonto, I loved movies about Indians, loved them beyond all reasoning and saw no fault with any of them.
I loved John Ford's "The Searchers."
I rooted for John Wayne as he searched for his niece for years and years. I rooted for John Wayne even though I knew he was going to kill his niece because she had been "soiled" by the Indians. Hell, I rooted for John Wayne because I understood why he wanted to kill his niece.
I hated those savage Indians just as much as John Wayne did.
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I mean, jeez, they had kidnapped Natalie Wood, transcendent white beauty who certainly didn't deserve to be nuzzled, nibbled, or nipped by some Indian warrior, especially an Indian warrior who only spoke in monosyllables and whose every movement was accompanied by ominous music.
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In the movies, Indians are always accompanied by ominous music. And I've seen so many Indian movies that I feel like I'm constantly accompanied by ominous music. I always feel that something bad is about to happen.
I am always aware of how my whole life is shaped by my hatred of Tonto. Whenever I think of Tonto, I hear ominous music.
I walk into shopping malls or family restaurants, as the ominous music drops a few octaves, and imagine that I am Billy Jack, the half-breed Indian and Vietnam vet turned flower-power pacifist (now there's a combination) who loses his temper now and again, takes off his shoes (while his opponents patiently wait for him to do so), and then kicks the red out of the necks of a few dozen racist white extras.
You have to remember Billy Jack, right?
Every Indian remembers Billy Jack. I mean, back in the day, Indians worshipped Billy Jack.
Whenever a new Billy Jack movie opened in Spokane, my entire tribe would climb into two or three vans like so many circus clowns and drive to the East Trent Drive-In for a long evening of greasy popcorn, flat soda pop, fossilized licorice rope and interracial violence.
We Indians cheered as Billy Jack fought for us, for every single Indian.
Of course, we conveniently ignored the fact that Tom Laughlin, the actor who played Billy Jack, was definitely not Indian.
After all, such luminary white actors as Charles Bronson, Chuck Connors, Burt Reynolds, Burt Lancaster, Sal Mineo, Anthony Quinn and Charlton Heston had already portrayed Indians, so who were we to argue?
I mean, Tom Laughlin did have a nice tan and he spoke in monosyllables and wore cowboy boots and a jean jacket just like Indians. And he did have a Cherokee grandmother or grandfather or butcher, so he was Indian by proximity, and that was good enough in 1972, when disco music was about to rear its ugly head and bell-bottom pants were just beginning to change the shape of our legs.
When it came to the movies, Indians had learned to be happy with less.
We didn't mind that cinematic Indians never had jobs.
We didn't mind that cinematic Indians were deadly serious.
We didn't mind that cinematic Indians were rarely played by Indian actors.
We made up excuses.
"Well, that Tom Laughlin may not be Indian, but he sure should be."
"Well, that movie wasn't so good, but Sal Mineo looked sort of like Uncle Stubby when he was still living out on the reservation."
"Well, I hear Burt Reynolds is a little bit Cherokee. Look at his cheekbones. He's got them Indian cheekbones."
"Well, it's better than nothing."
Yes, that became our battle cry.
"Sometimes, it's a good day to die. Sometimes, it's better than nothing."
We Indians became so numb to the possibility of dissent, so accepting of our own lowered expectations, that we canonized a film like "Powwow Highway."
When it was first released, I loved "Powwow Highway." I cried when I first saw it in the theater, then cried again when I stayed and watched it again a second time.
I mean, I loved that movie. I memorized whole passages of dialogue. But recently, I watched the film for the first time in many years and cringed in shame and embarrassment with every stereotypical scene.
I cringed when Philbert Bono climbed to the top of a sacred mountain and left a Hershey chocolate bar as an offering.
I cringed when Philbert and Buddy Red Bow waded into a stream and sang Indian songs to the moon.
I cringed when Buddy had a vision of himself as an Indian warrior throwing a tomahawk through the window of a police cruiser.
I mean, I don't know a single Indian who would leave a chocolate bar as an offering. I don't know any Indians who have ever climbed to the top of any mountain. I don't know any Indians who wade into streams and sing to the moon. I don't know of any Indians who imagine themselves to be Indian warriors.
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Wait -
I was wrong. I know of at least one Indian boy who always imagined himself to be a cinematic Indian warrior.
Me.
I watched the movies and saw the kind of Indian I was supposed to be.
A cinematic Indian is supposed to climb mountains.
I am afraid of heights.
A cinematic Indian is supposed to wade into streams and sing songs.
I don't know how to swim.
A cinematic Indian is supposed to be a warrior.
I haven't been in a fistfight since sixth grade and she beat the crap out of me.
I mean, I knew I could never be as brave, as strong, as wiser as visionary, as white as the Indians in the movies.
I was just one little Indian boy who hated Tonto because Tonto was the only cinematic Indian who looked like me.

Merrick wrote:Electric Dreams wrote:Word as of now is that George Clooney has shown a lot of interest in the role of the Lone Ranger, and the studio's been talking to him about it. Previously it was rumored that Nic Cage was up for the role, but that rumor died a long time ago. Clooney's name has come up quite a number of times since.
Keep in mind this means the matter's only in the talking stages at the moment & far from a "done deal". But a Clooney/Depp LONE RANGER movie...produced with Bruckheimer flair...could be pretty cool if you ask me (and no one has).

TheButcher wrote:Your welcome.
From AICN: So If Depp Is Tonto, Who Might Be THE LONE RANGER??
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/38486Merrick wrote:Electric Dreams wrote:Word as of now is that George Clooney has shown a lot of interest in the role of the Lone Ranger, and the studio's been talking to him about it. Previously it was rumored that Nic Cage was up for the role, but that rumor died a long time ago. Clooney's name has come up quite a number of times since.
Keep in mind this means the matter's only in the talking stages at the moment & far from a "done deal". But a Clooney/Depp LONE RANGER movie...produced with Bruckheimer flair...could be pretty cool if you ask me (and no one has).




Spandau Belly wrote:So what's all this about Morgan Freeman in some Americanized version of DOWNFALL? Count me in! I'd love to see that! At least more than a big studio Lone Ranger movie. But he'll have a hard time upstaging Bruno Ganz.


burlivesleftnut wrote:Spandau Belly wrote:So what's all this about Morgan Freeman in some Americanized version of DOWNFALL? Count me in! I'd love to see that! At least more than a big studio Lone Ranger movie. But he'll have a hard time upstaging Bruno Ganz.
The fuck? Did you miss your bombing target by like 12 threads or something?



Spandau Belly wrote:Man, if the Lone Ranger goes off to WW2 to fight Morgan Freeman for the fate of Europe all Dirty Dozen style that would be an awesome movie. I don't think they've ever made a WW2 Western before, could be great. I'm really looking forward to it.
My vote is Paul Dano for Stalin.











Disney adaptation has Johnny Depp attached; Bruckheimer producing








Steve 'Frosty' Weintraub wrote:I believe you’re involved with The Lone Ranger?
Bruckheimer: Yes.
I wanted to know how that’s going right now and what else is bubbling up to the surface for you?
Bruckheimer: Lone Ranger I think is hopefully going to be pretty soon. And National Treasure, we’re working on that. Lone Ranger is going quite well, I just had a meeting with Johnny recently, it went fantastic. So it’s going good. That one’s getting pretty exciting. We’re excited about another big movie with the same team that brought you Pirates—the first three, anyway.
I’m curious about National Treasure. Do you think that’s going to move forward pretty soon? It seems a lot of people want a third one.
Bruckheimer: It all depends on us getting a screenplay, that’s what it’s all about. We’re in the process of finishing up a first draft that we’ve been working on for a while, it’s really more than a first draft, but they haven’t given it to me yet, so we’ll wait and see when we get it.

"It's sort of 'Don Quixote' told from Sancho Panza's point of view," said Verbinski of the Justin Haythe script, indicating that Depp's Tonto will actually be the main character, "...But it's coming along really great...[It] wouldn't shoot until next year, probably, because Johnny's doing 'Dark Shadows.'"
In between then and now, however, Verbinski is likely to tackle another project, though he isn't entirely sure what it will be.
"I don't know, honestly," he laughed, "I have quite a few options. If you ask me that question in three weeks, I can probably answer it, but there's too many things that are conflicting schedules and I still have to factor availabilities and everything else. So whatever I tell you will be wrong in two days."


Ryan Gosling is in talks to star in Disney's "The Lone Ranger," TheWrap has learned.
It's early, and Gosling's schedule might not permit him to take the role of the Lone Ranger opposite Johnny Depp as Tonto. Gosling is starring as Logan in "Logan's Run" which is scheduled to begin production this fall.

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