Leckomaniac wrote:Rogue FTW!
So, pardon my ignorance, but WTF does FTW stand for?
Leckomaniac wrote:Rogue FTW!
minstrel wrote:Leckomaniac wrote:Rogue FTW!
So, pardon my ignorance, but WTF does FTW stand for?
minstrel wrote:Leckomaniac wrote:Rogue FTW!
So, pardon my ignorance, but WTF does FTW stand for?
Leckomaniac wrote:minstrel wrote:[quote= "Leckomaniac"]
Rogue FTW!
So, pardon my ignorance, but WTF does FTW stand for?
Hi Harry,
You probably already know about this, but in case you don't, here's the email that was sent out to all the sag members today. This strike is pretty much a guarantee at this point. The question is, for how long. If you use this, call me Brother of Bateman.
Screen Actors Guild released the following statement today.
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
AMPTP Suspends Negotiations with Screen Actors Guild
Guild Offers to Continue and Negotiate "Around the Clock" to Complete Deal
Los Angeles, May 6, 2008 -The AMPTP suspended negotiations with Screen Actors Guild today over the objections of SAG's negotiating committee. The committee had urged that the AMPTP continue discussion and had offered to negotiate around the clock if necessary in order to secure an agreement.
The AMPTP declined to continue negotiations with SAG claiming that it was necessary to turn their attention to negotiating with American Federation of Television and Radio Artists (AFTRA).
Screen Actors Guild National President Alan Rosenberg said, "It is unfortunate and deeply troubling that the AMPTP would suspend our negotiations at this critical juncture. We have modified our proposals over the last three weeks in effort to bargain a fair contract for our members. We are committed to preserving rights that have been in place for decades and not giving the studios the right to use excerpts of our work in new media without our consent and negotiation. Our negotiating team is prepared to work around the clock for as long as it takes to get a fair deal. We want to keep the town working."
Over the last four weeks Screen Actors Guild negotiated in good faith and modified many of its proposals to the AMPTP. To date, the AMPTP has offered only a few modifications to its new media proposal which was submitted to SAG in three documents containing 36 provisions that differed from the deals agreed to with the WGA and DGA.
SAG's National Executive Director and Chief Negotiator Doug Allen stated, "We were hopeful that we could continue negotiations with the AMPTP and reach a tentative agreement. We modified our proposals in effort to narrow the gap between us and now we need the AMPTP do the same. SAG's objective is to keep the town working and get a fair contract, so we are gravely disappointed that we will now have to delay to a process that we started over three weeks ago. We are willing to work for as long as it takes to negotiate a good agreement for our members."
The AMPTP put forward a proposal that differed substantially from the deals signed with the DGA and WGA. Management's clip demand would gut existing provisions regarding actors' consent to use of their clips and would allow studios and networks to use or sell clips - going forward and from their libraries - in any way they choose and without consent.
Lord Voldemoo wrote:man oh man...
It's now June 24. The strike is scheduled to begin, I believe, on July 1.
Anybody have any idea how things are going? Are the sides talking at all? It doesn't seem like I've read nearly as much about this going into it as I had about the WGA strike at this stage, but maybe i'm living under a rock?? Did they resolve everything and I just missed it somehow?
Why isn't everyone FREAKING OUT?!??!?!?!
minstrel wrote:Lord Voldemoo wrote:man oh man...
It's now June 24. The strike is scheduled to begin, I believe, on July 1.
Anybody have any idea how things are going? Are the sides talking at all? It doesn't seem like I've read nearly as much about this going into it as I had about the WGA strike at this stage, but maybe i'm living under a rock?? Did they resolve everything and I just missed it somehow?
Why isn't everyone FREAKING OUT?!??!?!?!
Didn't you get the memo? We're not freaking out because we all got together and decided that we didn't give a shit about movies and TV and we're really much more into knitting tea cozies. So that is what the Zone is dedicated to now. Let those actors go on strike! We don't care! We've seen the LIGHT!
Lord Voldemoo wrote:The United Tea-Cozy Workers No. 74 just called, they've been on strike since 1994 but apparently nobody noticed.
We should turn this into a cow-pr0n site...
Lord Voldemoo wrote:man oh man...
It's now June 24. The strike is scheduled to begin, I believe, on July 1.
Anybody have any idea how things are going? Are the sides talking at all? It doesn't seem like I've read nearly as much about this going into it as I had about the WGA strike at this stage, but maybe i'm living under a rock?? Did they resolve everything and I just missed it somehow?
Why isn't everyone FREAKING OUT?!??!?!?!
RogueScribner wrote:Lord Voldemoo wrote:man oh man...
It's now June 24. The strike is scheduled to begin, I believe, on July 1.
Anybody have any idea how things are going? Are the sides talking at all? It doesn't seem like I've read nearly as much about this going into it as I had about the WGA strike at this stage, but maybe i'm living under a rock?? Did they resolve everything and I just missed it somehow?
Why isn't everyone FREAKING OUT?!??!?!?!
Well, I read in EW a few weeks ago that the big wigs who want the strike held a rally and nobody (i.e. the big celebrity actors) came. I don't think there's as much of a want to do this as some people think. If it does happen, it won't be supported like the writers' strike was and should be over quickly (all for nought).
How the SAG Strike Could Ruin Comic-Con for Fans
6/24/2008
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While most people assume everything is great here in Hollywood, as the writer’s strike ended months ago and everyone is working again…unfortunately, this is not the case. If you didn’t know, the Screen Actor’s Guild contract ends with the studios on June 30th, and while many people just want to keep working, there is a chance the leadership might ask the members to vote for a strike and the industry would once again shut down.
While I don’t know the chances of this happening, it’s definitely something the studios are concerned about as Sony scheduled junkets for the rest of their big summer movies this week, in case the strike actually happens. Also, movies like Terminator 4 and Transformers 2 have put into their schedule months of filming without actors…so in case the strike does happen they can keep shooting.
Again, I don’t know what the deal is…but I do know one important thing that most fans probably haven’t thought of…if the actors go on strike…they aren’t going to Comic-Con next month.
A strike means the SAG members won’t be promoting anything.
That means no actors from Watchmen. No one from Star Trek. No one from SAG would be promoting. Of course, an actor can still go to Comic-Con as a fan and walk around…they just won’t be on stage in Hall H or signing autographs at studio sponsored events.
While a SAG strike will cause major headaches, some actors have another union called AFTRA (the American Federation of Television and Radio Artists), and they’re close to finalizing a deal with the studios, which means they could attend the Convention and promote. But, as of now, it’s not signed, and many AFTRA members are also in SAG. What that means is…if SAG strikes, the dual membership members aren’t going to be promoting either.
Look, I’m not trying to use George Bush fear tactics to scare you into not going to Comic-Con. The fact is, all the directors and producers will be there and they’ll definitely be bringing footage that’ll make you piss your pants. At least that’s what I’ve heard about the Watchmen footage….
But most people go to Comic-Con to get a glimpse of some of the biggest actors working in the Entertainment industry. Where else can a fan from Colorado show up and know their favorite actors will be there and they’d actually have a chance to get an autograph or ask them a question.
I know before working on Collider, going to Comic-Con was a big deal to me. After all, where else could a kid from suburbia see their favorite actors and ask a question. So while I currently get amazing opportunities to ask questions due to the site, it doesn’t mean I've forgotten my roots or what it means to the next generation of fans that aren’t in my shoes.
Right now the 4 day badge is already sold out for Comic-Con 2008 and the single day tickets are also close to selling out (Saturday is actually sold out already). This year will be bigger than ever and it’d be a shame for the Convention to not be as good as it should be due to an actors strike.
And I haven’t even opened the discussion to what another strike could do to the upcoming TV season. Last year the writers strike caused even more erosion to the networks audiences, and another strike might shrink the audience even further.
With the way the economy is and all the negativity out there in everyone’s lives, the Screen Actors Guild needs to work out a deal with the studios and make this dark cloud go away.
While I was a staunch supporter of the Writers Guild and what they fought for. If they’ve worked out a deal with the Studios and the DGA has as well, I’d like to think precedence has been set over new media money and other residuals.
For fans of TV, the audience at Comic-Con, and all the people that work in any area of the movie industry, I hope a deal gets worked out before the deadline.
That being said, I’ll see a lot of you at Comic-Con…with or without the actors.
And one last thing…I based this story on the presumption that SAG will not allow their actors to promote anything if they’re on strike. It’s possible SAG will change their stance and allow certain people to promote…but after talking to many executives in the industry yesterday, they all think if SAG goes on strike they will not be allowed to promote.
TheButcher wrote:From Variety: SAG to seek strike authorization
RogueScribner wrote:Could a strike result in the Academy Awards being canceled?
David Robb wrote:The threat of a writers strike continued to mount today as the WGA held the last of 11 membership informational meetings in advance of next month’s negotiations for a new film and TV contract.
“We’re always ready for a strike,” a TV writer laughed as he left the meeting at the Beverly Hilton. “Television is in another Golden Age and the companies are reaping record profits, but writers aren’t sharing in that. Our incomes are going down, so it’s going to be a tough negotiation.”
“Writers deserve more and the companies can afford to pay it,” said another TV writer who attended the meeting, “and we may just have to fight for it.” As for a strike, he said: “I pray that there will not be one, but I fear that there will be one.”
“The general feeling is that everybody would prefer to work,” said another writer, “but given the companies’ profits and our declining wages, it’s now or never. This meeting was not a strike vote, but we have certain needs that have to be met. Nobody wants to strike, but we are willing to if we have to.”
“We are all standing strong for the union,” said another writer.
Another added: “We have a unified guild.”
Solidarity and the credible threat of a strike are certainly helpful going into any contract negotiation, and many of those interviewed today said they hope the companies recognize that they are united behind the union’s “legitimate” and “reasonable” demands, and will make a fair deal to avoid a strike.
Guild records show that “overall median earnings increased 17.4% between 2008 and 2014,” but guild leaders say that “the average income of members in both features and series TV have actually decreased over the (last) decade.”
There’s no doubt that Hollywood’s film writers have seen their wages steadily erode over the past two decades, largely due to a decline in the number of films being released. According to the WGA West’s annual reports, screenwriters earned less in 2015 ($362.1 million) than they did in 1996 ($364.4 million) – and that’s in real dollars. Adjusted for inflation, they collectively earned about a third less in 2015 than they did in 1996.
The guild’s records also show that in 2015, TV writers earned $803 million under the WGA West’s basic contract, for an average annual income of $194,478, which was $48,936 more than they made in 2006.
But those numbers are only based on guild minimums, and don’t include the moneys they make as writers employed in additional capacities, such as producers and executive producers. And that’s where TV writer-producers are taking it on the chin. Two recent guild surveys of its working members found a 23% overall decline in weekly compensation for series TV writer-producers from the 2013-14 season to the 2015-15 season – a downward trend that guild officials maintain has been going on for a decade as the TV industry continues to go through a major restructuring.
The leading cause for the downturn is the shortening of many shows’ seasons, with fewer episodes meaning fewer dollars for writer-producers. In years past, writers might be paid for 22 episodes strung out over 44 weeks, but it’s now not uncommon for seasons to last for only 10 or 12 episodes.
“Everybody agrees that television is changing and that the way writers are paid needs to change,” said a writer leaving today’s meeting. “Nobody wants a strike, and the union will do its darndest to get a fair deal.”
The guild’s ailing – and some say failing – health plan will be another key bargaining point when negotiations with management’s AMPTP begin on March 13.
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