Bloo wrote:well since Trejo had to drop out of The Expendables, if Sly is going over the border, Trejo better be in it
papalazeru wrote:Primero Blood, Part Ju?
Rambo: Perrito caliente (Tell me OLEGER's, you WANT THAT TO HAPPEN!!!)
Rambo: Vera Truth (Eh? You like the pun no?)
TheBaxter wrote:a prequel where we discover that the real source behind rambo's bloodthirsty, savage nature is his love of marijuana, telling the story of how his first toke led to him being the savage warrior he is today:
"Rambo: First Bud"
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:You do all know that these films are about an injured Vietnam veteran disillusioned with the world and his place in it and is quite a sad and unsettling subject? Not jokes to be made here.
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:You do all know that these films are about an injured Vietnam veteran disillusioned with the world and his place in it and is quite a sad and unsettling subject? Not jokes to be made here.
DennisMM wrote:Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:You do all know that these films are about an injured Vietnam veteran disillusioned with the world and his place in it and is quite a sad and unsettling subject? Not jokes to be made here.
Yes, and that was the point of the novel First Blood and the original screenplay, before they happied it up for the studio. I won't tell the original ending, for those who don't know about it, but it was appropriate.
arockfosheezy wrote:ok i think i really have something. maybe we can even make that kid from 3 relevant in retrospect. and lets get that damn necklace back.
rambo told the kid from afghanistan his name is rambo,and hes from arizona. maybe the kid would track down the rambo farm,maybe out of desperation and confusion from fighting alongside the taliban, he runs away to maybe ask rambo whats the point,or ask him what he should think or feel, or how to make nightmares stop. (and maybe after what rambo went through in 4,he might be the kind of person to answer the right way)
the whole time rambos been gone,the kid works for rambos dad on the ranch. when rambo comes waltzing in at the end of 4,he could gesture toward the kid working there and ask his dad whos that dude. dad would tell rambo,rambo goes to say hey,and the first thing the kid does is *GIVE BACK CO BAOS NECKLACE*. with the war messing this kids head up, rambo can relate to his problems. maybe since rambo found some peace,he can kind of tell the kid how to make it in life even though you'll always have nightmares. you could have a few comical moments where rambo cant find the words, or sums up complicated things with just one word, sorta like f$#k the world from 4.
TheButcher wrote:From Coming Soon:
Sylvester Stallone Says Rambo is "Done"
Nachokoolaid wrote:Then I read that EXPENDABLES 2 is already in the works. Ok, that makes it all better.
TheBaxter wrote:after reading about that whole "Rambo vs. genetic Id monster" idea he was floating around a while back, i think it's best to just put the character to rest.
the end of the last film was an appropriate send off for the character.
so sorry wrote:TheBaxter wrote:after reading about that whole "Rambo vs. genetic Id monster" idea he was floating around a while back, i think it's best to just put the character to rest.
Jeebus, seriously? Never heard about that story.the end of the last film was an appropriate send off for the character.
Yeah but they left it so open ended. He's right there on the border of Mexico, right? That's clearly a setup for some cross border Rambo shenanighans.
arockfosheezy wrote:people only comment on useless joke posts. where are the fans?
minstrel wrote:arockfosheezy wrote:people only comment on useless joke posts. where are the fans?
Fans of Rambo 5? There is no Rambo 5. There won't be a Rambo 5. There's no reason for this thread to exist except for useless joke posts.
Fievel wrote:minstrel wrote:arockfosheezy wrote:people only comment on useless joke posts. where are the fans?
Fans of Rambo 5? There is no Rambo 5. There won't be a Rambo 5. There's no reason for this thread to exist except for useless joke posts.
I shat in my diaper reading this post.
minstrel wrote:Fievel wrote:minstrel wrote:arockfosheezy wrote:people only comment on useless joke posts. where are the fans?
Fans of Rambo 5? There is no Rambo 5. There won't be a Rambo 5. There's no reason for this thread to exist except for useless joke posts.
I shat in my diaper reading this post.
Maybe so, but everyone knows you would have shat in your diaper under any circumstances.
minstrel wrote:Fievel wrote:minstrel wrote:arockfosheezy wrote:people only comment on useless joke posts. where are the fans?
Fans of Rambo 5? There is no Rambo 5. There won't be a Rambo 5. There's no reason for this thread to exist except for useless joke posts.
I shat in my diaper reading this post.
Maybe so, but everyone knows you would have shat in your diaper under any circumstances.
Spandau Belly wrote:They're going to recast Rambo, I guarantee you.
Stallone has given any rebooting of the character his blessing, I'm sure the studio will cash in on this franchise name recognition like they do with everything else.
My vote would probably be Ray Stevenson as John Rambo. I loved him in Punisher: War Zone and if they just made Rambo sequels with that attitude I would be very happy.
papalazeru wrote:Yeah, and we can have cameo's from Stallone himself playing his father, Bruce Willis as the Uncle.
Spandau Belly wrote:Machete Versus Rambo would be the best versus movie ever.
Owen Williams wrote:Eighteen months ago, in the run up to The Expendables, Sylvester Stallone told Empire that John Rambo's adventures were over. "It's pretty well done; I'm about 99% sure there won't be any more," he said. "I'm very happy with the last Burmese episode, and another film might be misinterpreted as an unnecessary and mercenary gesture. I don't want that to happen."
And yet, and yet... Conan the Barbarian writer Sean Hood has just submitted his screenplay for Rambo: Last Stand to Millennium. FEARnet slipped a casual mention into an interview with Hood about Conan (there's also a line about a potential film based on another Robert E Howard character: that'd be Kull, folks!), and the writer was happy to expand on that info a little, after a request from Empire for clarifiication.
Firstly, this isn't just preemptive wishful thinking on the part of Millennium: Stallone was involved in getting the ball rolling. "I met with Mr Stallone twice last year," Sean tells us. "He gave me a book, an older screenplay, and about twenty pages he'd written himself to use as inspiration for the last chapter of the Rambo saga."
What's the book? Sean won't say, but does reveal that this Rambo 5 isn't based on any of the ideas that have been bubbling under in the recent past. It isn't the south-of-the-border action-fest that would have seen Rambo rescuing a young girl from a deadly drugs cartel. Nor is it the the sci-fi tinged Savage Hunt (which always seemed like a bizarre idea anyway). And it isn't the prequel that Stallone was pondering last summer. "It's more in line with the small-town thriller of First Blood," says Sean.
Rambo: Last Stand is a long way from a done deal or a green light though. One screenplay doth not a movie make, and Sean is careful to stress that "As of now, I don't know whether Mr Stallone will actually do it. Right now, as I understand it, he has his hands full with Bullet to the Head and Expendables 2. But Millennium films did hire me to complete the screenplay and realise his story, and my hope is that he'll eventually be inspired to do one more Rambo film, with the tone of Clint Eastwood's Unforgiven."
Brian D. Johnson wrote:Thirty-five years ago at the Oscars, Rocky won Best Picture, beating All the President’s Men, Network and Taxi Driver. The movie scored 10 nominations, including Best Actor and Original Screenplay for its creator and star, Sylvester Stallone. He’s never been nominated since, but has racked up a record number of Razzies for “worst actor.” Now 65, Stallone is still scrapping for comeback, with two movies coming out this year, Bullet to the Head and Expendables 2.
Q: When you were broke, you turned down $250,000 from a studio that wanted to make Rocky without you. Did you have any idea at the time that it would take off the way it did?
A: Not at all. I thought I was making a film for drive-in theatres. I approached it as a coming-of-age story about the frustration I felt. I thought a regular character wouldn’t work, so I put it in the body of a boxer.
Q: I watched Rocky again and was amazed how little boxing there is. A lot of the time you’re just walking and talking—showing attitude.
A: I don’t look at Rocky as a boxing movie. It was a love story. That’s why I think it worked.
Q: In the early scenes, I thought I saw a touch of Robert De Niro’s Johnny Boy from Mean Streets.
A: Absolutely.You are good! When it really happened is when I go into the bar and meet Paulie, and I’m complaining his sister doesn’t want to go out with me: “What do I gotta do? I gotta get a tattoo, I gotta fix my face, I gotta get a Cadillac to connect with your sister?” That kind of body language was very reminiscent of Johnny Boy in Mean Streets, yeah. Regular artists borrow, geniuses steal.
Q: Who was your biggest influence?
A: In the main pantheon of acting, Kirk Douglas. I liked his intensity. But the fantasy aspect was Steve Reeves. When I saw Hercules my mind just exploded, because I was extremely thin, I was insecure. I literally ran out of the theatre and started lifting things, anything I could think of—milk crates. I’m still lifting things. It changed my life.
Q: What about Rambo, your other iconic hero? In First Blood your performance is virtually silent—The Artist as action movie. It was based on a Canadian novel, directed by Canada’s Ted Kotcheff, and shot in B.C. Are you some kind of closet Canadian?
A: I’m a lumberjack in hiding!
Q: So how do you relate to Rocky and Rambo? Are they twin sides of your psyche?
A: Rambo is me before coffee in the morning. Rocky is me after coffee. Rambo has reverted into kind of like an id: primitive, reactive and instinctual, almost like an animal. I love this character because he hasn’t quite been fleshed out. He’s like an errant knight, looking to die in a glorious fashion. He has no desire to go into old age or have a family. Rocky is the antithesis: he cannot live without family. So you’ve got the American Frankenstein monster, then you have the American Dream. In the book, Rambo gets killed. I thought it was not the proper message. There had been close to 200,000 suicides by returning Vietnam vets. I said, “Why don’t we take him right to the edge without annihilating him?” Quentin Tarantino said, “You’re a coward, you should have killed him!” I said, “Quentin, you’re a lunatic. I want to do some sequels, brother.”
Q: Didn’t you turn down a Tarantino movie?
A: Yeah, two. The De Niro part in Jackie Brown. And Grindhouse, the part Kurt Russell did—I said, “There’s no way. I have two daughters, and this fellow, his hobby is putting teenagers in his car and smashing them into a wall. That’s not going to work.”
Q: You haven’t played a lot of villains.
A: No. I’m getting there, though. I have one coming up based on a wonderful film that was done in Spain, No Rest for the Wicked. It’s hard-core, in the Bad Lieutenant mode. Badder Lieutenant, we’re calling it.
Q: You played a good sherriff in Cop Land and had to grow a belly.What was that like?
A: It was horrible, but after a while I loved being out of shape. I really did. I get it!
Q: What kind of shape are you in now?
A: Pretty good shape. I’ve had a lot of operations. I’m kind of like Franken-actor. I just had my rotator cuff done. Someone released this picture of me and Arnold [Schwarzennegger]. We showed up at the same hospital, same doctor, same operation, same arm. He had already been operated on—and I’m following him. I’m always following him! He’s feeling good because he’s just had his drugs, and I’m going in, and we talked. A picture came out and people said, “It looks phony.” Phony? I have a hypodermic in my neck.
Q: You and Arnie used to be enemies.
A: That went on for a long time. We couldn’t stand to be in the same room. But I like a good adversary. It makes you lose sleep and want to get up in the morning and go to the gym. We started in the business almost the same day. We were at the Golden Globes and he had won for best newcomer; I lost for best actor but we had won best picture, and I took this bouquet of flowers and threw it on him like, “It’s on, pal!” From that day on it was a very competitive thing. Then you move on, have families, and you realize that this fellow’s very similar to you. Now we get along great.
Q: When did it change?
A: When he started to run for governor. He started inviting me to events. I said no, then my wife says, “Come on, he’s extending the olive branch,” and next thing I know is I’m on the campaign trail, then we just hit it off. He did some great things, like, to be in Expendables when he was governor, for free.
Q: Next he’s your co-star in the sequel and The Tomb. Cage match, you and Arnie—who wins?
A: I do. Sorry Arnold, but it’s true! You can bench more than me, but I’d out-cage you.
Q: Let’s look at roads not taken. You turned down Coming Home, a very different Vietnam vet movie from Rambo. Why?
A: I was very foolish. I didn’t have the guts to do it, and at that time I really wasn’t a fleshed-out actor. I don’t know even if I am now. It just seemed so—what is the word?—naked, and it was a much more liberal point of view. Now I think I should have done it. Usually whenever you’re scared of something, do it. If you’re not afraid of it, don’t do it.
Q: Did you really turn down American Gigolo, An Officer and a Gentleman and Pretty Woman—three Richard Gere films?
A: Yeah. He’s prettier. I’m not a romantic lead. I look in the mirror—“Jesus! This is crooked, that’s drooping, the voice sounds like a pallbearer.”
Q: You and Gere had a tiff.
A: All the time. He was supposed to be in Lords of Flatbush. We were auditioning and would do improvs. He was always grabbing me and twisting my skin. I’d say, “Hey, stop! Seriously.” He keeps going on, then we’re sitting in the back of a car and he’s eating chicken covered in mustard. I said, “Richard, the mustard’s going to drip off and go on my leg and I’m going to belt you. I’m warning you right now.” He went, “Oh, yeah?” Sure enough he bites it, it goes on my leg. Boom! He goes, “Let me out of this car.” It’s like, “Either him or me.” I stayed and he went.
Q: What do you think of today’s action heroes?
A: The action film is pretty much a thing of the past, the kind Arnold and I did, or Chuck Norris, which is self-generated. Today’s action hero, his skills are through technology. He can fly, he can throw a bolt of lightning, he can freeze people. It’s not in-the-trench action. And I don’t know if that’s ever going to come back. That’s why Expendables worked. It was a walk down memory lane with 11 of the ugliest action dudes I’ve ever seen in my life on one poster. It was thug village.
Q: You made F.I.S.T. with Canada’s Norman Jewison, a leftie. How did you get along?
A: I had no idea what Norman’s political affiliations were. I was extremely naive in politics. People assume, “Okay, you’re a staunch Republican.” I’m not, I’m just very pro those guys in the military. But by no means am I some jingoistic, full-on Hannibal. When [Ronald] Reagan came out and said, “After seeing Rambo I know what to do in Libya,” I went, “Oh, no!” Rambo is neutral. But my character became the ultimate right-wing machine.
Q: You lost control of him. And Rocky?
A: There’s a disconnect between me and Rocky. People look at that statue [in Philadelphia] as a real character. I go there sometimes and stand way in the background. I see people getting married in front of the statue. People pull up at three in the morning, drunk, out of a cab, pat Rocky on the butt, then get back in the cab. It has nothing to do with me!
Q: In Rocky, when asked why you fight, you say, “I don’t know how to sing or dance.” But there’s a lot of dance in that performance. Do you feel you don’t get respect as an artist?
A: Well, yeah. But I brought a lot of it on myself. I tried to diversify and do some of these silly comedies that I hated. I thought that’s what you’re supposed to do. It just blew up in my face.
Q: You came back with Rocky Balboa.
A: My career was over, dead with a fork in it. Ten years past prime. I said let me do one more thing and end Rocky on the proper note. Every door was closed. The studio said, “Even if you got financing we wouldn’t do it. You’re a joke. No one wants to see a broken-down fighter following a sequel that was a disaster 16 years earlier.” I was down in Mexico all depressed. This producer walked in. I said, “I wrote another Rocky.” I think he took the script as a courtesy. His wife read it and she cried. He said if you can do this thing for $20 million … [Rocky Balboa would gross $150 million worldwide.] I’m dying to do another Rambo. He’s in Arizona on the border. It will involve him going into Mexico. I don’t think Rambo likes Mexicans.
Q: So will you kill him off?
A: Yeah.
Sylvester Stallone was interviewed at Carmen’s in Hamilton, Ontario at a fundraising evening for the Canadian Diabetes Association.
stallone wrote: Regular artists borrow, geniuses steal.
TheButcher wrote:RAMBO V: Rambo vs Predator
RAMBO VI: Rambo vs Terminator
TheButcher wrote:Sylvester Stallone Returning To Rambo For Something He’s Comparing To The Coen Bros.
Rambo, The Dude & Walter Go Bowling
Spandau Belly wrote:If this is more PG13 bullshit, just tell me now so I can stop giving a fuck.
Spandau Belly wrote:If this is more PG13 bullshit, just tell me now so I can stop giving a fuck.
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