The Dark Knight Rises Discussion Thread

[Ribbons]

I think that post lacks the appropriate number of winkies...

[ironic name]

it's funny, because I know more about quantum mechanics than you, peven.

[Bloo]

Quantum mechanics or Quantum Leap because I know a lot about Quantum Leap...remember that time Sam leaped into Batman?

[ironic name]

oh boy.

[Peven]

Quantum mechanics or Quantum Leap because I know a lot about Quantum Leap...remember that time Sam leaped into Batman?

and yet you're unable to hold a real discussion about movies and just revert to plastering dumb pics with a pre-adolescent mentality, go figure

[TheBaxter]

Quantum mechanics or Quantum Leap because I know a lot about Quantum Leap...remember that time Sam leaped into Batman?

and yet you're unable to hold a real discussion about movies and just revert to plastering dumb pics with a pre-adolescent mentality, go figure

that's funny, since the only person who posted any pictures was ironic name. we just can't help painting everyone except ourselves with the same broad brush, can we, peven? hey mods, if it's ok now for peven to go around calling people lobotomized mental patients with pre-adolescent mentalities, is it ok if i call him an asshole?

[TonyWilson]

Yes, Baxter. Yes it is.



WINKY!!










OR NOT





















OR MAYBE YES

[Peven]

again, missing the point entirely. but go ahead and turn the whole place into a nothing more than a blog for lame photoshop movie jokes by people who could care less about cinema on any serious level, it isn't as if people have given a shit about how this place is run for a long time anyway

[Spandau Belly]

Yeah, come on guys, enough with the humour and creative expression through original photoshop work, let's all get back to Peven's original vision of The Zone as a place where we can assign character faults and mental problems to anybody who has different taste in movies than our own!

[Al Shut]

Somewhere I read the actor who played Winslow Leach died recently. I think we might be haunted by his ghost.

[so sorry]

Alright fellas, knock it off please. The tangent into silly (yet creative) Photoshop posters was fun, the discussion about Nolan's place in the cinematic history books was thought provoking and enlightening, and Al Shut's Winslow joke was funny, but lets get back to the topic of this thread please: leather-fetished super heros. That's serious business.

[ironic name]

I'm making a bane custom figure, since the ones coming out are not good.

also, there will be a new trailer soon.


and Peven:

but really, love you bro, we are allowed to disagree. and feel free to shoot the shit about b-movies sometime.

also, someone seems to think the cop played by 3rd rock from the sun actor [and quantum leap alum] jgl goes by the codeword azrael


bane:
http://media.comicbookmovie.com/images/ ... 43500L.jpg

[TheBaxter]

seriously, every time i see bane's mask now, i think of this

[Bloo]

Quantum mechanics or Quantum Leap because I know a lot about Quantum Leap...remember that time Sam leaped into Batman?

and yet you're unable to hold a real discussion about movies and just revert to plastering dumb pics with a pre-adolescent mentality, go figure

you know what, I brought up several points earlier about Nolan which YOU chose to ignore and instead insulted me and the other Olgers by bringing up Stallone and quantum mechanics. Forgive me for having a little fucking fun. Fucking christ on a cross

[ironic name]

[Al Shut]

Is the world ready for the return of Ace the Batdog?

The answer is no.

[ironic name]

ace the bathound is a good piece of mythos.

[Spandau Belly]

Get ready for lotsa IMAX!

When Mr. Nolan's "The Dark Knight Rises" opens July 20, it will contain the most IMAX footage ever for a Hollywood feature, more than one hour's worth. There were 40 minutes of such footage in 2008's "The Dark Knight"—which set box-office records in its opening weekend. IMAX's summer slate also includes potential blockbusters "The Avengers," "The Amazing Spider-Man," "Men in Black 3," Tim Burton's gothic comedy "Dark Shadows," and Ridley Scott's 3-D "Prometheus." Mr. Nolan's film was the only one shot using IMAX cameras; the others were converted using IMAX's technology.

The Hong Kong sequence in DARK KNIGHT did look super nice. Apparently the Imax camera is super loud, so it's not good for filming scenes of dialogue. They shot some talking scenes in DARK KNIGHT with the Imax camera, but had to have the actors dub in their voices later because the audio from the actual shoot just sounded like a helicopter landing.

[TheButcher]

‘Dark Knight Rises’: Christopher Nolan’s masked ambitions

[tapehead]

Get ready for lotsa IMAX!

When Mr. Nolan's "The Dark Knight Rises" opens July 20, it will contain the most IMAX footage ever for a Hollywood feature, more than one hour's worth. There were 40 minutes of such footage in 2008's "The Dark Knight"—which set box-office records in its opening weekend. IMAX's summer slate also includes potential blockbusters "The Avengers," "The Amazing Spider-Man," "Men in Black 3," Tim Burton's gothic comedy "Dark Shadows," and Ridley Scott's 3-D "Prometheus." Mr. Nolan's film was the only one shot using IMAX cameras; the others were converted using IMAX's technology.

The Hong Kong sequence in DARK KNIGHT did look super nice. Apparently the Imax camera is super loud, so it's not good for filming scenes of dialogue. They shot some talking scenes in DARK KNIGHT with the Imax camera, but had to have the actors dub in their voices later because the audio from the actual shoot just sounded like a helicopter landing.

Apart from the new Batman, you get that this is just a list of films that will be screening in Imax, right? Any film can be converted to Imax, even HD tv if the resizing is done correctly.

[ironic name]

Get ready for lotsa IMAX!

When Mr. Nolan's "The Dark Knight Rises" opens July 20, it will contain the most IMAX footage ever for a Hollywood feature, more than one hour's worth. There were 40 minutes of such footage in 2008's "The Dark Knight"—which set box-office records in its opening weekend. IMAX's summer slate also includes potential blockbusters "The Avengers," "The Amazing Spider-Man," "Men in Black 3," Tim Burton's gothic comedy "Dark Shadows," and Ridley Scott's 3-D "Prometheus." Mr. Nolan's film was the only one shot using IMAX cameras; the others were converted using IMAX's technology.

The Hong Kong sequence in DARK KNIGHT did look super nice. Apparently the Imax camera is super loud, so it's not good for filming scenes of dialogue. They shot some talking scenes in DARK KNIGHT with the Imax camera, but had to have the actors dub in their voices later because the audio from the actual shoot just sounded like a helicopter landing.

Apart from the new Batman, you get that this is just a list of films that will be screening in Imax, right? Any film can be converted to Imax, even HD tv if the resizing is done correctly.

think before you post. if possible.

[Peven]

oh no, you are being a meany, and we all know how sensitive you are to meanness do you ever post in a thread with something relevant to say?

I guess someone pointing out that there is a difference between a movie shot in IMAX being shown in IMAX and one shot conventionally shown in IMAX is just over your head. guess all that quantum mechanics gets in the way of you comprehending it.


meanwhile, back to discussing the movie at hand with grown-ups........I think I would be more optimistic of the final result if Jackson was shooting "The Hobbit" with IMAX cameras instead of in 3D....though I wonder, would it be possible to shoot 48fps in IMAX? it is really too bad that drive-in theatres are usually run on a shoe-string budget so they don't have the latest projection tech, I would pay a premium to see movies shot in IMAX shown on a drive-in screen, the atmosphere of a drive-in can't be duplicated indoors no matter how big the screen is

[Ribbons]

Actually I think it was tapehead who misunderstood Spandau's comment, not the other way around. Unless he was just being deliberately vague, the coy Aussie bugger. But yeah, there's no need to get chippy.

I have never seen a movie in IMAX besides for The History of Dolphins or whatever at The Franklin Institute, but I think I'm going to find the biggest screen possible and head there when TDKR comes out. I like the idea of just being surrounded by the film, although I'm also a little concerned that I won't be able to follow the action on the margins of the frame.

[TheButcher]

oh no, you are being a meany, and we all know how sensitive you are to meanness do you ever post in a thread with something relevant to say?

I guess someone pointing out that there is a difference between a movie shot in IMAX being shown in IMAX and one shot conventionally shown in IMAX is just over your head. guess all that quantum mechanics gets in the way of you comprehending it.


meanwhile, back to discussing the movie at hand with grown-ups........I think I would be more optimistic of the final result if Jackson was shooting "The Hobbit" with IMAX cameras instead of in 3D....though I wonder, would it be possible to shoot 48fps in IMAX? it is really too bad that drive-in theatres are usually run on a shoe-string budget so they don't have the latest projection tech, I would pay a premium to see movies shot in IMAX shown on a drive-in screen, the atmosphere of a drive-in can't be duplicated indoors no matter how big the screen is

Maybe. From Deadline:
IMAX Laser Projection Prototype Clears Way For Much Larger Screens: CinemaCon

[Spandau Belly]

Ribbons is correct. The information I originally posted did mention the difference between movies shot with an Imax camera versus movies converted to Imax afterwards. Tapehead seemed to miss this and Ironic pointed it out. Peven didn't seem to understand any of this; and like usual, he made attacks that were personal, incorrect, and directed at the wrong person. Can we ban Peven already?

[ironic name]

Ribbons is correct. The information I originally posted did mention the difference between movies shot with an Imax camera versus movies converted to Imax afterwards. Tapehead seemed to miss this and Ironic pointed it out. Peven didn't seem to understand any of this; and like usual, he made attacks that were personal, incorrect, and directed at the wrong person. Can we ban Peven already?

eh, I don't mind peven, sure he's acting like a moe-ron right now, but he's cool, freedom of speech and all that.
a friend of mine just in the last few days told us all she was diagnosed with breast cancer and has gone in for surgery, so people being dicks anonymously doesn't seem to matter anymore.

[TheButcher]

The Dark Knight Rises - Official Trailer #3 [HD]

[tapehead]

Ribbons is correct. The information I originally posted did mention the difference between movies shot with an Imax camera versus movies converted to Imax afterwards. Tapehead seemed to miss this and Ironic pointed it out. Peven didn't seem to understand any of this; and like usual, he made attacks that were personal, incorrect, and directed at the wrong person. Can we ban Peven already?

I got the point, but I don't agree with the conclusion drawn from it. Shooting for IMAX on film with 65mm film horizontally achieves a certain effect when projected digitally - it looks really good, but I don't think it's a gold standard. You also have to consider that Prometheus is shot at 5K digitally in 3D (on Red Epic) - it's going to look amazing in IMAX, and the same goes for Spidey (and The Hobbit, and many others to come). The other films, probably not so much, but then again the percentage that IMAX counts for in the average overall box office is relatively negligible (which is why more films are shot in 3D than IMAX, and most of the top grossing IMAX movies are short-form, IMAX-only affairs). There's a lot of pseudo-science and technobabble spouted about IMAX, when other impending advancements like 4K and 48 fps are likely to have more impact on people's viewing habits. IMAX is less of a novelty than other film format innovations like VistaVision or Todd-AO, but really the only director championing it in the current climate is Nolan. I admire his determination to keep film generally and IMAX specifically alive, but I'm not entirely swayed by his argument.


...also, Peven's always been perversely contrarian, but I guess I only noticed Ironic was quite recently - he's really something.

[ironic name]

and you really aren't.

in other news, did it seem that bane's voice had been changed? he was easy to hear this time.

[ironic name]

[Spandau Belly]

Shooting for IMAX on film with 65mm film horizontally achieves a certain effect when projected digitally - it looks really good, but I don't think it's a gold standard. You also have to consider that Prometheus is shot at 5K digitally in 3D (on Red Epic) - it's going to look amazing in IMAX, and the same goes for Spidey (and The Hobbit, and many others to come).

If I have seen a film shot on this 5K digital standard, then I was not aware of it. I am aware of films I have seen shot on 65mm film, and I find they look great.

I will see PROMETHEUS when it is released, but I imagine it will only be shown in 3D where I live, and 3D always makes it hard for my eyes to appreciate detail. So I guess if PROMETHEUS is really good and I watch it again on home video, then I will be able to compare.

I am not going to see THE HOBBIT because it doesn't interest me, so I guess I'll wait to see this 48 fps business when somebody uses it to make a movie I want to see.

[ironic name]

thats the big problem with 3d, it really wants you to focus where the director wants.
not real 3d.

[tapehead]

2D film does that too - it's called 'framing' or 'composition'. 3D just has the added element of convergence. It's not a problem, it's just a difference.

[ironic name]

wrong again, there are several different types of filmmaking. 1 style of movie might have plenty of things going on in the background, like the texan trying to do russian folk dancing in the background of 'the party' when the elephant is introduced.
and in a more conventional movie like ghostbusters, you can't help but notice ron jeremy in the background, not that he was framed that way.
so when you want to look at the background in avatar instead of the pussycat man you can find the 3d may not work, and in some post converted movies like thor, if you try to look at rene russo's expression to see if she is in her role or just there thinking about something in her life - you can wind up with a headache or notice floating planes of field.
that is a problem unless you just look at the middle of the screen.
http://vimeo.com/19788132

[TheBaxter]

and you really aren't.

in other news, did it seem that bane's voice had been changed? he was easy to hear this time.

yes, he's much easier to understand now that they've gotten patrick stewart to dub his lines.

[ironic name]

I can't be sure, he says all new lines, but it does seem like maybe mouthbreathers bitching about the sound of his voice might have made wb change it for the trailer, personally I would prefer a medium between unintelligible like the first trailer and now, needs some growl to it.

[so sorry]

Whatever the reasoning, I'm glad they cleaned up his mumblemouth.

I'm not blown away by the trailer, but I'll definitely see it.

[DerLanghaarige]

Am I the only one who understands Bane even LESS in the new trailer? He always mumbles his last words!
"Who are you?" "I am Gotham's mrunrnrnrnr."

[Fievel]

Am I the only one who understands Bane even LESS in the new trailer? He always mumbles his last words!
"Who are you?" "I am Gotham's mrunrnrnrnr."

I thought the same thing about that line in particular.

[Peven]

he clearly said, "I am Gotham's Mallomar"

[Al Shut]

Am I the only one who understands Bane even LESS in the new trailer? He always mumbles his last words!
"Who are you?" "I am Gotham's mrunrnrnrnr."

That's just one word out of two sentences he has, which admittedly does sound more like a sound glitch than an actual work.

I have as much trouble understanding Bruce Wayne, then again I have trouble understanding a lot of (seemingly random) people.

I don't know if I've said it before but Bane wearing Vin Diesel's old XXX coat looks kind of strange.

[Al Shut]

Oh and between what seems to be Bane being freed midflight and the flying Bat - whatever it's called, I'm a little, but only a little, worried that it might be bit overdone for my taste.

[Peven]

Oh and between what seems to be Bane being freed midflight and the flying Bat - whatever it's called, I'm a little, but only a little, worried that it might be bit overdone for my taste.

it does feel a little like Mission Impossible:Batman, now that you mention it

[TheBaxter]

there's an awful lot of catwoman (not selina kyle either, catwoman) in that trailer. and looks like she's on batman's side. i haven't really been following news on this movie or anything, but is this the first time we've actually seen catwoman with her mask on?

[DerLanghaarige]

Am I the only one who understands Bane even LESS in the new trailer? He always mumbles his last words!
"Who are you?" "I am Gotham's mrunrnrnrnr."

That's just one word out of two sentences he has

I have the same problem with his second line. What the hell is the last word he says?

[so sorry]

there's an awful lot of catwoman (not selina kyle either, catwoman) in that trailer. and looks like she's on batman's side. i haven't really been following news on this movie or anything, but is this the first time we've actually seen catwoman with her mask on?

There's been a few stills of her in suit out there for a while now. My guess from watching that is that she's going to do the "I'm in it for myself/you're a fool Batman" to the "he's so dreamy/maybe he's right" to ultimately "I'm abandoning him/only to show up at the end and play a pivotal role in helping him defeat Bane" kinda thing.

[so sorry]

Am I the only one who understands Bane even LESS in the new trailer? He always mumbles his last words!
"Who are you?" "I am Gotham's mrunrnrnrnr."

That's just one word out of two sentences he has

I have the same problem with his second line. What the hell is the last word he says?

rosebud

[Peven]

there's an awful lot of catwoman (not selina kyle either, catwoman) in that trailer. and looks like she's on batman's side. i haven't really been following news on this movie or anything, but is this the first time we've actually seen catwoman with her mask on?

There's been a few stills of her in suit out there for a while now. My guess from watching that is that she's going to do the "I'm in it for myself/you're a fool Batman" to the "he's so dreamy/maybe he's right" to ultimately "I'm abandoning him/only to show up at the end and play a pivotal role in helping him defeat Bane" kinda thing.

dammit, where is the spoiler alert!

















on a side note, after watching that latest trailer a few times this afternoon with my sons it really does seem to point toward Batman's ultimate doom, and damn if Gorden-Levitt's jaw line doesn't look all too similar to Bale's.......still not a fan of that idea, but I also realize that comes from an established familiarity and "comfortable" concept that Bruce Wayne is Batman and vice versa. admittedly, some of the movies I have seen over the years that I consider among the best have had endings I wasn't "comfortable" with at the time, but then that is part of why they had such an impact on me. "Sympathy for Mr Vengeance" comes to mind as an example

[TonyWilson]

I am Gotham's Reckoning!


Goddamn that looked badass.

[TheBaxter]

Am I the only one who understands Bane even LESS in the new trailer? He always mumbles his last words!
"Who are you?" "I am Gotham's mrunrnrnrnr."

That's just one word out of two sentences he has

I have the same problem with his second line. What the hell is the last word he says?

"i'm gotham's reckoning, number one."

"your punishment must be more severe. make it so."


really? i didn't have any trouble understanding either of those lines, though i've had trouble with his lines in past trailers. i actually had more difficulty with some of catwoman's lines ("i'm adaptable") than bane's in this trailer.