Star Trek Into Darkness

[Cpt Kirks 2pay]

........ aaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnddd YOU guys wanna invade the Talkbacks to get people come to this place? Where the most posted in thread is this load of wanky bollox?

Fuck off the stuck up waster lot of ya.

What do you expect when a thread is created for a sequel to a movie that hasn't even come out yet???

Go and leave this thread alone and post something of some intelligence in another thread in the meantime.

I call ye 'black', Kettle.

Black, I tells ya.

Signed, Pot

I call ye racist.

Racist I tells ya, racist.

Signed, Atticus Finch.

[Retardo_Montalban]

I call ye 'black', Kettle.

Black, I tells ya.

Signed, Pot

I call ye racist.

Racist I tells ya, racist.

Signed, Atticus Finch.

Find me some white iron and I'll agree with you.

[TheButcher]

From Coming Soon: Star Trek Crew on a Possible Sequel

"It would be incredible fun to get to do it again," director J.J. Abrams told us. "It is also insanely presumptuous to assume that it will work when it's out there, that people will like it, and that there will be a need for another one. If there is, the good news is that there's a deal for the writers and a deal for the actors. It's in place. We have not had one meeting. We have not had one discussion. There's no outline. There's no script. There's nothing. We're fishing for ideas."

CS: I'm on a one-man mission to plant the seed now. If you decide to revisit the character of Khan, two words: Javier Bardem.

Kurtzman: Oh my God!

Orci: Did you know we've actually mentioned that out loud as a possibility? What a great idea.

Lindelof: Come on. That's a no-brainer. That would be the most amazing thing ever. Who would even what to see these [new] guys then? That's the problem. You would just watch them for scenery.

[TheButcher]

From Newsarama: 'Star Trek' Beams Up $76.5M

Update Sunday, 5/10: Paramount is estimating that Star Trek will earn $76.5 million by the end of business Sunday, with final, official figures to be released Monday. If the estimates hold up, they will fall on the high end of industry expectations, and well within the studio's happy zone. Expect the official announcement of a sequel or two (the cast members are signed for 3 films) within days.

[Fried Gold]

From Newsarama: 'Star Trek' Beams Up $76.5M

Update Sunday, 5/10: Paramount is estimating that Star Trek will earn $76.5 million by the end of business Sunday, with final, official figures to be released Monday. If the estimates hold up, they will fall on the high end of industry expectations, and well within the studio's happy zone. Expect the official announcement of a sequel or two (the cast members are signed for 3 films) within days.

In four days it's taken more money than the last Star Trek film did from it's entire worldwide run.

[Cpt Kirks 2pay]

Ohgod No! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[burlivesleftnut]

Don't revisit Demon Seed, for pete's sake. BRING BACK HARRY MUDD!

[Fried Gold]

Don't revisit Demon Seed, for pete's sake. BRING BACK Grande Rojo MUDD!

The Guardian of Forever...









...will be out of bounds as JJ & co will likely not want to incur the wrath of Harlan.

[ManaByte]

Don't revisit Demon Seed, for pete's sake. BRING BACK Grande Rojo MUDD!

The Guardian of Forever...









...will be out of bounds as JJ & co will likely not want to incur the wrath of Harlan.

They just need to give him credit (and pay him) and they have nothing to worry about.

[TheButcher]

From MTV: 'Star Trek' Sequel Will Deal With 'Unpredictable Future'

Word already leaked more than a month ago that at least one "Trek" sequel is in the works, and the series' gatekeepers confirmed to us that such memorable characters as Khan Noonien Singh and Dr. Tolian Soran are among the many characters whose life courses may have been altered by the events of the new film.

"All the characters who existed in the universe or canon we grew up with are essentially still around in some capacity," Kurtzman explained. "But their lives have been altered, so they may again intersect with our crew."

"There's a deal in place with the writers and the actors," Abrams said recently of "Trek" sequel plans, explaining that all the key actors are under contract to return. "If people like this movie, and there's a demand for another one, we would be happy to work on it."

Well, they certainly did — and Kurtzman and his writing partner Roberto Orci (who also collaborated on the upcoming "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen") told us that their minds are already swimming with sequel possibilities.

[TheBaxter]

From MTV: 'Star Trek' Sequel Will Deal With 'Unpredictable Future'

"I don't think we ever need to talk about time travel again," Orci explained, saying that Leonard Nimoy and other "original universe" cast members will likely be unnecessary from here on out. "In fact, in the end of the movie, the device that allows time travel is destroyed. So we're stuck with this universe we're in now."

who needs a time travel device? all you need for time-travel is the sun and a klingon bird of prey.

[Gerald Fried]

From MTV: 'Star Trek' Sequel Will Deal With 'Unpredictable Future'

"I don't think we ever need to talk about time travel again," Orci explained, saying that Leonard Nimoy and other "original universe" cast members will likely be unnecessary from here on out. "In fact, in the end of the movie, the device that allows time travel is destroyed. So we're stuck with this universe we're in now."

who needs a time travel device? all you need for time-travel is the sun and a klingon bird of prey.

Or special edition Voyager-style TEMPORAL ANOMALY!!!!!!!!!

[TheButcher]

What did the Borg use in First Contact?

[Gerald Fried]

What did the Borg use in First Contact?

According to Memory Alpha:

Borg sphere generated a temporal vortex leading to 4 April, 2063, through the controlled emission of chronometric particles.

The thing with First Contact was that the story was good enough that it didn't matter.

[Bob Samonkey]

Seeing as old Spock had the stuff doesn't he know where to get more?

[papalazeru]

From MTV: 'Star Trek' Sequel Will Deal With 'Unpredictable Future'

"I don't think we ever need to talk about time travel again," Orci explained, saying that Leonard Nimoy and other "original universe" cast members will likely be unnecessary from here on out. "In fact, in the end of the movie, the device that allows time travel is destroyed. So we're stuck with this universe we're in now."

who needs a time travel device? all you need for time-travel is the sun and a klingon bird of prey.

Or special edition Voyager-style TEMPORAL ANOMALY!!!!!!!!!

Don't forget that the it needs Scotty to make the bird go warp factor 10 as well.

[burlivesleftnut]

Seeing as old Spock had the stuff doesn't he know where to get more?

The stuff came from Vulcan. So... uhm. No.

[Fried Gold]

Seeing as old Spock had the stuff doesn't he know where to get more?

The stuff came from Vulcan. So... uhm. No.

Plus it was Nero's mining that used to dig the ore up from a Romulan moon.

[Brit Pop]

New timeline... so all characters from the OS can be also re-birthed.

JJ and a boardroom full of writers will say to eachother -

"OK, so everybody knows that Khan was the best sequel to date... what we need is something like that, but using Khan in our sequel would be, well, just lame and obvious"

10 MONTHS LATER...




STAR TREK 2 - KHANS FURY!

[Fried Gold]

Perhaps Khan would show his Indian decent this time:

[papalazeru]

Is that Richard from Lost?

[Brit Pop]

It is indeed.... Nestor Carbonell dressed up as a live action version of BatManuel.

He's gotta be quids in to play Khan, should the producers go that way... which they will - I guarantee it.

[Tyrone_Shoelaces]

It's not too late for them to fuck it up. They could use the Federation time cops that were introduced in the TNG era to fix everything.

[Nachokoolaid]

If they are going to go with Khan, then only Javier Bardem should play him. I saw that suggested somewhere, and I really can't get that out of my head. It's too perfect to probably actually happen, but it's cool to think about.

[Peven]

Kal Penn needs to play Khan...and then we can have a scene where he and Sulu score some space weed and get wasted together......

[burlivesleftnut]

Kal Penn needs to play Khan...and then we can have a scene where he and Sulu score some space weed and get wasted together......

They could visit that planet where the flowers made everyone loopy as shit.

[Peven]

Kal Penn needs to play Khan...and then we can have a scene where he and Sulu score some space weed and get wasted together......

They could visit that planet where the flowers made everyone loopy as shit.

there you go, that is a start....now, what would stoneheads in the 24th century crave when they got the munchies........road trip movie....

[Brit Pop]

Star Trek 2 - Sulu And Khan Go To Ceti Alpha Five.

[RogueScribner]

Kal Penn needs to play Khan...and then we can have a scene where he and Sulu score some space weed and get wasted together......

Speaking of Kal Penn, I swear I saw him on the bridge early in the movie, but I could be wrong.

[Fried Gold]

It's not too late for them to fuck it up. They could use the Federation time cops that were introduced in the TNG era to fix everything.

Federation time cops?

[TheBaxter]

It's not too late for them to fuck it up. They could use the Federation time cops that were introduced in the TNG era to fix everything.

Federation time cops?

as long as they're played by JCVD, i'm down.

[papalazeru]

It's not too late for them to fuck it up. They could use the Federation time cops that were introduced in the TNG era to fix everything.

Federation time cops?

as long as they're played by JCVD, i'm down.

No, he's down.

[TheBaxter]

if there's one thing JJ's star trek was missing, it was not enough Jean Claude Van Dancing.

[Peven]

they should cast JCVD as a red shirt in the sequel, kill him off within the first 5 minutes

[John-Locke]

I think they should introduce Khan but not have him as the main villain yet, save him for ten years or so then we can really feel his wrath.

They should get Chiwetel Ejiofor to play a BADASS Klingon villain.

[Nachokoolaid]

I don't know Trek, but I know this movie kicked ass. Has there ever been a badass female villian in the Star Trek universe? I wouldn't mind seeing that.

[Lord Voldemoo]

I don't know Trek, but I know this movie kicked ass. Has there ever been a badass female villian in the Star Trek universe? I wouldn't mind seeing that.

There probably is a good example from ToS but I haven't watched it in forever and I can't think of any from there. Plus ToS didn't really have recurring villains.

Other sources (TNG, the films...)

Probably the Borg Queen is closest and I wouldn't really think of her as badass. There was Tasha's evil twin on TNG...but no. The turncoat Maquis/Cardassian chick from Voyager. Oh...wait...did I just mention Voyager? My bad. The female shapeshifter from DS9, but she was more of an asexual blob than a female villain.

I'm probably forgetting someone...

[TheBaxter]

picard's clone from 'nemesis'. that chick was SCARY.

[Mogo]

I don't know Trek, but I know this movie kicked ass. Has there ever been a badass female villian in the Star Trek universe? I wouldn't mind seeing that.

There probably is a good example from ToS but I haven't watched it in forever and I can't think of any from there. Plus ToS didn't really have recurring villains.

Other sources (TNG, the films...)

Probably the Borg Queen is closest and I wouldn't really think of her as badass. There was Tasha's evil twin on TNG...but no. The turncoat Maquis/Cardassian chick from Voyager. Oh...wait...did I just mention Voyager? My bad. The female shapeshifter from DS9, but she was more of an asexual blob than a female villain.

I'm probably forgetting someone...

The Klingon woman in Star Trek 3?

[BuckyO'harre]

Janice Lester in TOS.
The chick who switched bodies with Kirk, and then tried to execute him along with the main crew.

[Lord Voldemoo]

Janice Lester in TOS.
The chick who switched bodies with Kirk, and then tried to execute him along with the main crew.

OH YEAH...

Quite frankly, she's probably the freakiest Trek female villain I can think of...

[Tyrone_Shoelaces]

It's not too late for them to fuck it up. They could use the Federation time cops that were introduced in the TNG era to fix everything.

Federation time cops?

I think it was a "Voyager" episode. There was some kind of rift or some such thing and Janeway was about to go into it when a ship popped up out of nowhere and told her she couldn't. Turned out that sometime in the 25th century someone found a ridiculously easy way to do time travel so the Federation had to monitor time lines and fix things that got changed. They showed up a couple times but I don't remember exactly where.

[Fried Gold]

It's not too late for them to fuck it up. They could use the Federation time cops that were introduced in the TNG era to fix everything.

Federation time cops?

I think it was a "Voyager" episode. There was some kind of rift or some such thing and Janeway was about to go into it when a ship popped up out of nowhere and told her she couldn't. Turned out that sometime in the 25th century someone found a ridiculously easy way to do time travel so the Federation had to monitor time lines and fix things that got changed. They showed up a couple times but I don't remember exactly where.

I don't quite recall it (especially being Voyager) but I guess it led into the time travel stuff and "Future Guy" in Enterprise.

[Brit Pop]

It's not too late for them to fuck it up. They could use the Federation time cops that were introduced in the TNG era to fix everything.

Federation time cops?

I think it was a "Voyager" episode. There was some kind of rift or some such thing and Janeway was about to go into it when a ship popped up out of nowhere and told her she couldn't. Turned out that sometime in the 25th century someone found a ridiculously easy way to do time travel so the Federation had to monitor time lines and fix things that got changed. They showed up a couple times but I don't remember exactly where.

I don't quite recall it (especially being Voyager) but I guess it led into the time travel stuff and "Future Guy" in Enterprise.

Time travel.... fun in a DeLorean, but no good as a recurring theme in any science fiction series (that isnt directly based on time travel!).

TOS got the time travel bug in a few episodes, and some 'sort of past' themes (OK Corral, Nazi Planet etc etc etc)...

Interestingly enough - 'The Time Tunnel' and 'Star Trek' first aired within one day of eachother back in '66 - so Gene may have been watching and said "Hey, I like this time travel stuff - maybe we should work it into our series also!"

Time travel pretty much sank 'Enterprise'... that along with crappy stories and boring characters - there was this temporal cold war off in the future and yes, it seemed the timecops could pretty much jump around easily and go anywhere they felt like.

So how do you maintain any form of continuity in a show when (theoretically) nothing bad could ever happen or go wrong because the timecops would be able to keep fixing things and warning of future calamity?!? A wizard did it!

If there is a Star Trek XII - the writers should accept the fact they used time travel to effectively 'reboot' the franchise...

then...

MAKE OUT THAT WHATEVER NERO DID HAS PERMANENTLY STOPPED ALL TIME TRAVEL BEING POSSIBLE AND GET BACK TO FUCKING NORMAL STORYTELLING AND LEAVE THE TIME TRAVEL THING WELL ENOUGH ALONE... FOREVER!! (unless a writer comes back from the future and stops then from stopping time travel storylines - make sense?!?)

[TheBaxter]

It's not too late for them to fuck it up. They could use the Federation time cops that were introduced in the TNG era to fix everything.

Federation time cops?

I think it was a "Voyager" episode. There was some kind of rift or some such thing and Janeway was about to go into it when a ship popped up out of nowhere and told her she couldn't. Turned out that sometime in the 25th century someone found a ridiculously easy way to do time travel so the Federation had to monitor time lines and fix things that got changed. They showed up a couple times but I don't remember exactly where.

is this the episode where they picked up some guy in a super-futuristic ship, and he walked around observing them, and then they tricked him into letting them on his ship and found out the ship was from the future but the guy had stolen it in the past from some other time-traveling dude who had gone back in time? no, wait, i think that was a TNG episode. and the futureship-thief was max headroom.

[burlivesleftnut]

That is right.

And the Time Cop Federation captain was none other than hunky actor Bruce McGill.

[Tyrone_Shoelaces]

The rift in the "Voyager" episode would have let them go right to Earth but at the completely wrong time. They were debating it when the Federation Time Cop showed up and told them it was a no-no.

[TheButcher]

From Collider: Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman talk STAR TREK SEQUEL Villain Ideas and COWBOYS AND ALIENS

* They don’t know if J.J. is directing the sequel - he’s still undecided
* They want to finish the sequel script by Christmas
* Paramount wants to make the film as soon as possible
* They’ve been reading what the fans have been saying online

[TheButcher]

From io9: Star Trek's Third Movie Being Plotted Out Already?

[TheButcher]

From AICN: News From TCA On HULK II(I), THE AVENGERS, CABIN IN THE WOODS, STAR TREK XII, VIEW-MASTER, V, LOST, FRINGE & More

“Fringe” co-creator Roberto Orci, screenwriter of the 11th and upcoming 12th “Star Trek” movies, calls “Heroes” star Greg Grunberg’s suggestion to cast Grunberg as Ha rry Mudd in an upcoming sequel “a good idea.”

From io9:
Roberto Orci: Star Trek 2 Won't Follow Transformers 2 Formula