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Postby TheButcher on Tue May 12, 2015 10:20 pm

Marvel Courting Ava DuVernay to Direct Diverse Superhero Movie (Exclusive)
The “Selma” filmmaker is being eyed to join the MCU, but will she take the reins of “Black Panther” or “Captain Marvel?”

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Postby TheButcher on Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:25 pm

Anthony Mackie Doesn't Care If 'Black Panther' Director Is Black:
"They Didn’t Get a Horse to Direct 'Seabiscuit' "
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Re: Black Panther

Postby Ribbons on Sat Oct 24, 2015 11:02 am

"They Didn’t Get a Horse to Direct 'Seabiscuit' "


I don't know if I agree with Mackie here, but that's an awesome line
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Re: Black Panther

Postby TheButcher on Sat Dec 05, 2015 7:19 am

Marvel Wants Ryan Coogler To Direct BLACK PANTHER
He could go from pugilist to king.

CREED’s Ryan Coogler In Talks For BLACK PANTHER
If this pans out, it's very good news.
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Re: TheButcher (and/or MTV)'s got the Marvel Scoops...(PHASE

Postby so sorry on Mon Jan 11, 2016 2:37 pm

Did someone force-quit TheButcher and forget to restart him? I haven't seen a post in weeks.

Maybe Kirks pulled the plug...
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Re: TheButcher (and/or MTV)'s got the Marvel Scoops...(PHASE

Postby Ribbons on Tue Jan 12, 2016 1:40 am

I think The Force Awakens broke him
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Re: TheButcher (and/or MTV)'s got the Marvel Scoops...(PHASE

Postby Fievel on Tue Jan 12, 2016 3:11 am

Ribbons wrote:I think The Force Awakens broke him


Seriously, his review was a great read. Partially because it was The Freaking Butcher posting a novel on inner-most thoughts of his!! But also because the review itself was a good read. It reminded me of a scene in a movie where the silent character finally speaks - Silent Bob, or when Chief finally breaks character in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. It was a fucking moment!!!!
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Re: TheButcher (and/or MTV)'s got the Marvel Scoops...(PHASE

Postby Maui on Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:06 am

so sorry wrote:Did someone force-quit TheButcher and forget to restart him? I haven't seen a post in weeks.


He's taken a sabbatical leave from the Zone. All that posting has been too stressful for him.
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Re: TheButcher (and/or MTV)'s got the Marvel Scoops...(PHASE

Postby TheBaxter on Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:56 pm

TheButcher was David Bowie. few people knew that when he wasn't acting in films or recording music, he enjoyed spending his days reading movie news and posting links to stories on internet message boards.
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Re: TheButcher (and/or MTV)'s got the Marvel Scoops...(PHASE

Postby Ribbons on Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:49 pm

Too soon, man.

Well, since TheButcher has cast off this mortal coil:

Ryan Coogler Officially Made Official Director of 'Black Panther' with Official Press Release
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Re: Black Panther

Postby TheButcher on Fri May 13, 2016 8:10 pm

Michael B. Jordan Joins Marvel's 'Black Panther' (Exclusive)
Borys Kit wrote:Michael B Jordan will reteam with his Creed director Ryan Coogler for Marvel Studios’ Black Panther, inking a deal to join movie's buzzy cast, The Hollywood Reporter has learned.

This would be the third time that Jordan will work with Coogler, who is helming the comic book movie as well as writing the script with Joe Robert Cole. The first time the duo came together was for the indie drama Fruitvale Station.

Chadwick Boseman is toplining Black Panther while Lupita Nyong’o is in negotiations to star alongside him.

It is unclear who Jordan would play but one source told THR that it could be a villain. Marvel had no comment.

Boseman and Black Panther were introduced in Captain America: Civil War, which crossed the $700 million worldwide mark in under a week and a half.

The character, whose name is T’Challa, is the warrior king of Wakanda, Marvel’s fictional African nation that is rich in an unbreakable alloy called vibranium.

Black Panther has a Feb. 16, 2018, release date, with production set to start in early 2017.

Panther won’t be Jordan’s superhero movie debut. The actor last year starred as Johnny Storm/The Human Torch in Fox’s Marvel franchise, The Fantastic Four.

Jordan is currently developing a remake of The Thomas Crowne Affair as an acting vehicle. He will also produce the remake along with the Joe and Anthony Russo.
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Re: Black Panther

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The Movie Trailers 'Я' Us Thread

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Re: Black Panther

Postby Ribbons on Sat Jun 10, 2017 2:11 pm

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I cannot believe that poster is real. I mean, I know that it IS real, but it's just hilariously bad. It looks like a high schooler's failed photoshop project. That's going to be hanging up in, like, movie theaters and shit! Have some goddamn self-respect, Marvel.

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This, on the other hand, is badass.
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Re: The Movie Trailers 'Я' Us Thread

Postby Peven on Sun Jun 11, 2017 1:13 pm

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looks absolutely badass, can't wait to see it.
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Re: Black Panther

Postby Peven on Sun Jun 11, 2017 1:23 pm

Ribbons wrote:
TheButcher wrote:Image


I cannot believe that poster is real. I mean, I know that it IS real, but it's just hilariously bad. It looks like a high schooler's failed photoshop project. That's going to be hanging up in, like, movie theaters and shit! Have some goddamn self-respect, Marvel.


shocker, I vehemently disagree with this pompous take on the Black Panther poster. :twisted: :-P you just don't get it, you're too young and too snarky to appreciate it for what it is. its like the cover of a late 70's or early 80's comic. I love it. I'm not the only one, either, I've seen a lot of positive response to it so far.
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Re: Black Panther

Postby Ribbons on Sun Jun 11, 2017 1:55 pm

Peven wrote:you just don't get it, you're too young and too snarky to appreciate it for what it is. its like the cover of a late 70's or early 80's comic. I love it. I'm not the only one, either, I've seen a lot of positive response to it so far.


If you're talking about the concept of the poster, I feel like I get it and I'm completely onboard. But the execution is a disaster. If they *really* wanted to hearken back to a specific genre of covers or posters that were animated, they could have pulled a Guardians and animated the whole thing at least, not literally everything but poor Chadwick Boseman's hastily cropped-in floating head.
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Re: TheButcher's got the Marvel Scoops...(PHASE 3)

Postby Peven on Sun Jun 11, 2017 3:52 pm

I don't know, I looked at it all blowed up and I think his facial hair along his lower jaw is what may be giving it that look to you. perhaps viewing it at smaller size isn't the best to critique it? I still say the design choices are sweet; the font, the colors, the architecture, the throne. this is a poster I would like to own, it would look great side by side by side with a Guardians poster and a Thor:Ragnarok poster.
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Re: TheButcher's got the Marvel Scoops...(PHASE 3)

Postby Ribbons on Sun Jun 11, 2017 11:37 pm

I think it would have been better with the mask on, anyway. Here's a fanmade take that came out pretty well:

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Re: TheButcher's got the Marvel Scoops...(PHASE 3)

Postby TheBaxter on Mon Jun 12, 2017 12:05 am

somebody needs to tell Black Panther that manspreading is considered impolite nowadays.
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Re: TheButcher's got the Marvel Scoops...(PHASE 3)

Postby Peven on Mon Jun 12, 2017 12:57 am

Baxter beat me to the joke..... :oops: :oops: :oops: :( :( :( :( :( :(


aside from that I like the fan work, too
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Re: TheButcher's got the Marvel Scoops...(PHASE 3)

Postby Ribbons on Mon Jun 12, 2017 1:50 am

Manspreading: outlawed in Madrid, celebrated in Wakanda
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Re: TheButcher's got the Marvel Scoops...(PHASE 3)

Postby TheButcher on Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:37 pm

Ribbons wrote:Manspreading: outlawed in Madrid, celebrated in Wakanda

Wakanada :wink:
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The BLACK PANTHER Party

Postby Lord Voldemoo on Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:27 pm

Trailer!

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Re: BLACK PANTHER

Postby Fievel on Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:31 pm

Superhero saturation in cinema?

Fuck it. That looks awesome!!!
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Re: BLACK PANTHER

Postby Bloo on Mon Oct 16, 2017 1:32 pm

Yeah I'm all over this.
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Re: The BLACK PANTHER Party

Postby Ribbons on Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:38 am

Am I the only one who thinks it's ironic they used "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised" to promote the release of a movie? I know it's not technically television, but same diff.
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Re: The BLACK PANTHER Party

Postby Cpt Kirks 2pay on Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:23 pm

I have no idea what this is about but it looks good.
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Re: The BLACK PANTHER Party

Postby Fried Gold on Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:07 pm

That trailer leaves me with little interest in seeing it.
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Re: The BLACK PANTHER Party

Postby Ribbons on Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:21 pm

I think the costume and production design look incredible, and whether or not you're personally impressed, the fact that the cast is almost entirely black and the setting almost entirely in Africa is pretty significant. That said, the story looks like standard superhero fare: villain who wants to remake the world by destroying everything in it for some reason, good guy/bad guy who have to be mirror images of each other for some reason, and lots of medium-shot coverage with way, way too much CGI. Half of these effects shots looked better in the first trailer.
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Re: The BLACK PANTHER Party

Postby so sorry on Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:48 pm

Ribbons wrote:I think the costume and production design look incredible, and whether or not you're personally impressed, the fact that the cast is almost entirely black and the setting almost entirely in Africa is pretty significant. That said, the story looks like standard superhero fare: villain who wants to remake the world by destroying everything in it for some reason, good guy/bad guy who have to be mirror images of each other for some reason, and lots of medium-shot coverage with way, way too much CGI. Half of these effects shots looked better in the first trailer.



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Re: The BLACK PANTHER Party

Postby Ribbons on Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:52 pm

New mini-trailer:

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Re: The BLACK PANTHER Party

Postby Peven on Tue Jan 09, 2018 4:47 pm

I'm going to make sure i see this in the theatre at least a couple times on principle alone, and optimistic i'm going to enjoy myself as well, even if it isn't reimagining the cinematic superhero story.
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Re: The BLACK PANTHER Party

Postby Ribbons on Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:35 pm

I think Marvel needs to do a last-minute reshoot for Black Panther where someone mistakenly refers to Wakanda as a "shithole country"
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Re: The BLACK PANTHER Party

Postby Peven on Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:03 pm

Ribbons wrote:I think Marvel needs to do a last-minute reshoot for Black Panther where someone mistakenly refers to Wakanda as a "shithole country"


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Re: The BLACK PANTHER Party

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Postby so sorry on Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:38 am




Holy Hyperbole Batman!
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Re: The BLACK PANTHER Party

Postby Ribbons on Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:14 pm

For Fried Gold, here's Mark Kermode reviewing Black Panther:

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Re: The BLACK PANTHER Party

Postby Peven on Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:57 am

among the best of the Marvel movies, or any superhero movies, but some more depth in character development and true arcs would have elevated it from a really good comic movie to being a really good movie.

that said it is a landmark movie in the social context in which it is released and I think its influence, to whatever degree it has any, is a positive one overall not just for the Black community but for society at large.
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Re: The BLACK PANTHER Party

Postby Ribbons on Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:16 pm

I've been meaning to comment on Black Panther as well, but have been crazy busy this week. It's the best superhero movie since Sky High.
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Postby Peven on Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:35 pm

Ribbons wrote:I've been meaning to comment on Black Panther as well, but have been crazy busy this week. It's the best superhero movie since Sky High.


I can't accurately judge just how much I liked it due to the crying baby in the theatre that was making noise more than half the time, and had the wonderful timing to start wailing during the quiet character moments every. fucking. time. I got free passes for us after the movie because there was no way I was going to pay to listen to a baby crying for 2 hours.
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Postby Wolfpack on Sat Feb 24, 2018 11:53 am

The theater patron didn't have the common courtesy to take the kid out of the theater, I take it.
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Postby Peven on Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:51 am

they did not. :(
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Postby Cpt Kirks 2pay on Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:11 pm

Gotta get the new breed of KKK started somehow.
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Re: The BLACK PANTHER Party

Postby Ribbons on Tue Feb 27, 2018 6:24 pm

I wanted to fall for Black Panther and embrace it the way that so many people in the world seem to have. As it is, I thought it was pretty good; up high on the list of Marvel's best work, if not in the Top 3. Of course, it's unique in having not just a black lead but taking place in a country and part of the globe where America is barely an afterthought. If those things mean a lot to the audiences who've made this film such a phenomenon, I can't tell them that they're wrong. In truth I admired those things too -- just not enough, I think, to change how I felt all that much. Black Panther is also blatantly, shockingly political in ways that I can't believe a Disney product got away with, so it gets extra points from me for its ballsiness.

The element of the movie I thought worked best was how fully realized the world of Wakanda seemed, with its culture, costumes, and traditions that feel real and lived-in. Each character in Black Panther represents a different component of Wakandan society. To name a few, there's T'Challa's younger sister Shuri, a savant with vibranium technology who scoffs at the old rituals; his godfather and shaman Zuri, who oversees many of Wakanda's religious ceremonies and who's committed a few questionable misdeeds in the name of preserving the country's legacy; Okoye, a member of the all-female bodyguards called the Dora Milaje whose loyalty to the king never changes, even if the king does; and M'Baku (or "Man-Ape" as he's known in the comics), the leader of a tribe that split from the rest of Wakanda thousands of years ago and now resides in the country's mountains, in a very uncomfortable truce. All of these characters are so well-drawn and fascinating that I would have gladly watched another hour just to get to know them better. As weird a complaint as it may seem (and as impossible a reality as this is), I think Black Panther's biggest problem was that it wasn't long enough.

The man who supposedly steals the show is Michael B. Jordan's Killmonger, and while he's charismatic and holds the screen when he's on it, he also disappears from the movie for huge chunks of time. He's somehow involved with Andy Serkis's Klaw, who draws Wakanda out of hiding when he gets flagged by the CIA for trying to sell vibranium in South Korea (a subplot that has no place in the story, other than providing a reason to briefly move the action to Asia). Once they finally get Killmonger back to Wakanda things start moving, but if you're expecting more than your standard "villain destroys the world" plot, you'll be disappointed. In this case it's politically and racially motivated, which makes it somewhat more believable, and Killmonger has enough of a legitimate emotional grievance with the country that abandoned him that his pain and rage are compelling; he's not re-inventing the mold, is all I'm saying, just wearing it well. His final line of dialogue, however, is destined to be quoted and discussed.

Anyway, this is my long, rambling way of saying that I found Black Panther to be just good enough that you wish it were better, not unlike many Marvel films. But I also don't want to say there's nothing more to it than that. I can't be dismissive of the people who love what this movie represents, and even I recognize the power in a moment where T'Challa reveals himself to the world by letting young black children in Oakland inspect his Wakandan tech. I just can't guarantee that will be your experience.
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Re: The BLACK PANTHER Party

Postby Peven on Tue Feb 27, 2018 6:35 pm

you just spent four paragraphs basically repeating what I said in two sentences. fluffer. :-P :wink:
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Re: The BLACK PANTHER Party

Postby Ribbons on Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:44 pm

In honor of the 4-hour director's cut of Black Panther that doesn't exist, I decided to make my review as long as possible
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Re: The BLACK PANTHER Party

Postby TheBaxter on Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:18 am

Peven wrote:you just spent four paragraphs basically repeating what I said in two sentences. fluffer. :-P :wink:


that's not fluff.


this...














is...














fluff.
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Re: The BLACK PANTHER Party

Postby Al Shut on Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:56 am

Ribbons wrote: I just can't guarantee that will be your experience.


I can almost certainly guatantee that it won't. I hope it isn't distracting for someone as oblivious as me.
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Re: The BLACK PANTHER Party

Postby Peven on Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:10 pm

Al Shut wrote:
Ribbons wrote: I just can't guarantee that will be your experience.


I can almost certainly guatantee that it won't. I hope it isn't distracting for someone as oblivious as me.



not to sound too harsh, but I agree that a German would have a difficult time "getting" the empowerment minorities feel when they see themselves represented in strong and powerful contexts that are equal to how white people are portrayed. while racism exists everywhere i believe that the struggle of Black Americans against it here is distinctive considering this country's history with slavery as it's main economic engine for the first 87 years of its existence. in very literal, real and metaphoric terms this country was built on slavery. and for most of the 150 odd years since Black Americans have been relegated to second class status as citizens and people in this country. I understand that while i may know the history of what black Americans have gone through I can never truly feel or appreciate how powerful it is to finally see strong, positive Black characters presented as equals or even greater to their white counterparts represented in a major movie like this, but i think that growing up in this country with an open mind allows me and others here to have more insight to it than europeans.
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