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New Star Wars Trilogy (Benioff & Weiss)

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:12 pm
by Fievel
New Star Wars Films From Game of Thrones Duo

I'd love these guys to do something with the Old Republic era!!

Re: New Star Wars Trilogy (Benioff & Weiss)

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:55 am
by TheBaxter
boy, and i thought the marvel cinematic universe was oversaturated...

Andy Warhol wrote:In the future, everyone will have a Star Wars film for fifteen minutes... and then be replaced by Ron Howard.

Re: New Star Wars Trilogy (Benioff & Weiss)

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:06 pm
by Cpt Kirks 2pay
Make any SW film they want but everyone should know this... no future SW film will ever make anything near as much as The Force Awakens made. They may not even make as much as The Last Jedi makes.

I hope Disney don't think that these films will be mega massive blockbusters that we've associated SW films to make so far. Will be a lot lower, maybe some even failing to make profit at all.

Anyway, life's too short to be miserable about more of these films, which is the point. We have more Star Wars entertainment to brighten up our lives - be fucking happy!

... Yes, I'm talking to myself.

Re: New Star Wars Trilogy (Benioff & Weiss)

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 3:10 pm
by Fievel
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:...Yes, I'm talking to myself.


I'm nodding along enthusiastically!

Re: New Star Wars Trilogy (Benioff & Weiss)

PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:51 pm
by Ribbons
I'll be very shocked if this trilogy ever comes to fruition. It doesn't matter if this is a different story set in a different corner of the galaxy; Disney is never going to be comfortable with anything remotely Game of Thrones-y. So this is yet another example of Kathleen Kennedy/Lucasfilm hiring a beloved creative voice while expecting them to deliver a product that's nothing like the work that made them famous.

Re: New Star Wars Trilogy (Benioff & Weiss)

PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:12 pm
by Cpt Kirks 2pay
Just because the writers adapted a Game of Thrones source novel doesn't mean that these films will be like Game of Thrones.

George C R Tolkien whatsisface has buggered off now.

These writers are on their own.

Re: New Star Wars Trilogy (Benioff & Weiss)

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:34 am
by TheBaxter
Ribbons wrote:I'll be very shocked if this trilogy ever comes to fruition. It doesn't matter if this is a different story set in a different corner of the galaxy; Disney is never going to be comfortable with anything remotely Game of Thrones-y. So this is yet another example of Kathleen Kennedy/Lucasfilm hiring a beloved creative voice while expecting them to deliver a product that's nothing like the work that made them famous.


somehow they managed to make the show even rapey-er (rapier?) than the books. but don't worry, disney's got ron howard stashed away in the broom closet to come in and make these films safe for the world.

Re: New Star Wars Trilogy (Benioff & Weiss)

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:02 pm
by Peven
Opie learned all the important life lessons from Andy, and now he's using them to save Hollywood.

Re: New Star Wars Trilogy (Benioff & Weiss)

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:07 pm
by Peven
Ribbons wrote:I'll be very shocked if this trilogy ever comes to fruition. It doesn't matter if this is a different story set in a different corner of the galaxy; Disney is never going to be comfortable with anything remotely Game of Thrones-y. So this is yet another example of Kathleen Kennedy/Lucasfilm hiring a beloved creative voice while expecting them to deliver a product that's nothing like the work that made them famous.


Have you seen Princess Leia in that slutty gold bikini? :wink:



seriously, though, have you seen Rogue One???

sure, no tits and ass, but it had an edge, and it killed off all everyone. plus, that last scene with Darth Vader was downright fucking brutal. Why is it such a stretch to think that the GoT bunch can't mine that same tonality and maybe even push it a little further?

Re: New Star Wars Trilogy (Benioff & Weiss)

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:27 am
by Al Shut
TheBaxter wrote:somehow they managed to make the show even rapey-er (rapier?) than the books.


Maybe their Star Wars will more Star Warsier? Whatever that means.

Re: New Star Wars Trilogy (Benioff & Weiss)

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:00 pm
by Peven
twice the pews per blaster

Re: New Star Wars Trilogy (Benioff & Weiss)

PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 3:27 pm
by Ribbons
Peven wrote:
Ribbons wrote:I'll be very shocked if this trilogy ever comes to fruition. It doesn't matter if this is a different story set in a different corner of the galaxy; Disney is never going to be comfortable with anything remotely Game of Thrones-y. So this is yet another example of Kathleen Kennedy/Lucasfilm hiring a beloved creative voice while expecting them to deliver a product that's nothing like the work that made them famous.


have you seen Rogue One???

sure, no tits and ass, but it had an edge, and it killed off all everyone. plus, that last scene with Darth Vader was downright fucking brutal. Why is it such a stretch to think that the GoT bunch can't mine that same tonality and maybe even push it a little further?


I feel like Rogue One is as far as they're going to push it, and those characters didn't have as much moral ambiguity as people like to pretend they did. I know this makes sense to Lucasfilm on paper because Benioff and Weiss have proven that they can work within someone else's mythology and their TV show has gotten increasingly bigger and more cinematic in scope. It's just that Game of Thrones is the only thing these two have made, and I can't see any Star Wars Story approaching that. But I could be wrong.

Re: New Star Wars Trilogy (Benioff & Weiss)

PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:00 pm
by Fievel
Game of Thrones has:
-Intense family drama
-Various factions killing each other for control of power
-An endless history of wars between these factions
-Numerous unlikely heroes
-Mysterious magical forces at play in the narrative
-Seemingly crucial characters that die early in the story
-The rise of children to main character heroes and villains
-Humor that works best when it is the most sarcastic
-Character arcs that show more heary/depth to the characters than we are led to initially believe
-A diminutive hero who drops quotable bits of wisdom every time he speaks
-Young children ordered (and subsequently) killed by a ruthless villain

Yeah, these guys will do just fine.

Re: New Star Wars Trilogy (Benioff & Weiss)

PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:15 pm
by Cpt Kirks 2pay
Yeah mate, that's just themes. That don't represent that these are good enough writers alone though and that they can weave great plot, dialogue, action scenes, character development etc. etc. based on their own talents and skill.

Much of the great story that came from the Game Of Thrones TV series was based on what was already given to them from the books NOT written by them, so they already had established quality to work from.

This is Star Wars, where stories have to come fresh from the screenwriters, they got no George Martin holding their hands like he did the talentless Beatles who couldn't even play a guitar properly between the lot of 'em.

You call it that these guys will be fine? Well where is your crystal ball that shows this then? Prove it to me, Mr Soothsayer. Until then you got nothing.

It's better you don't post in this thread. Or in this place. Or at all. Draw a fucking crayon picture whilst you dance in pink ballerina tights. That should be your contribution to art.

Re: New Star Wars Trilogy (Benioff & Weiss)

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:55 am
by TheBaxter
Fievel wrote:Game of Thrones has:
-Intense family drama
-Various factions killing each other for control of power
-An endless history of wars between these factions
-Numerous unlikely heroes
-Mysterious magical forces at play in the narrative
-Seemingly crucial characters that die early in the story
-The rise of children to main character heroes and villains
-Humor that works best when it is the most sarcastic
-Character arcs that show more heary/depth to the characters than we are led to initially believe
-A diminutive hero who drops quotable bits of wisdom every time he speaks
-Young children ordered (and subsequently) killed by a ruthless villain

Yeah, these guys will do just fine.


they also both have characters of mysterious and surprising parentage.
and major characters who don't realize they are related to each other.
just imagine how the Luke/Leia kiss on Hoth would have turned out if the GoT guys had written it.
by the time of ROTJ, they'd be full-on Jaime/Cersei, with a bunch of rotten jedi kids who would've made Kylo Ren look like a choirboy by comparison.

Re: New Star Wars Trilogy (Benioff & Weiss)

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:21 am
by Cpt Kirks 2pay
TheBaxter wrote:
Fievel wrote:Game of Thrones has:
-Intense family drama
-Various factions killing each other for control of power
-An endless history of wars between these factions
-Numerous unlikely heroes
-Mysterious magical forces at play in the narrative
-Seemingly crucial characters that die early in the story
-The rise of children to main character heroes and villains
-Humor that works best when it is the most sarcastic
-Character arcs that show more heary/depth to the characters than we are led to initially believe
-A diminutive hero who drops quotable bits of wisdom every time he speaks
-Young children ordered (and subsequently) killed by a ruthless villain

Yeah, these guys will do just fine.


they also both have characters of mysterious and surprising parentage.
and major characters who don't realize they are related to each other.
just imagine how the Luke/Leia kiss on Hoth would have turned out if the GoT guys had written it.
by the time of ROTJ, they'd be full-on Jaime/Cersei, with a bunch of rotten jedi kids who would've made Kylo Ren look like a choirboy by comparison.


No... That's how George Tolkien the novel writer would have written it. Those screenplay goons just copied what he wrote. They have no minds of their own.

Like you, evidently.

Re: New Star Wars Trilogy (Benioff & Weiss)

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:25 pm
by Wolfpack
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:
TheBaxter wrote:
Fievel wrote:Game of Thrones has:
-Intense family drama
-Various factions killing each other for control of power
-An endless history of wars between these factions
-Numerous unlikely heroes
-Mysterious magical forces at play in the narrative
-Seemingly crucial characters that die early in the story
-The rise of children to main character heroes and villains
-Humor that works best when it is the most sarcastic
-Character arcs that show more heary/depth to the characters than we are led to initially believe
-A diminutive hero who drops quotable bits of wisdom every time he speaks
-Young children ordered (and subsequently) killed by a ruthless villain

Yeah, these guys will do just fine.


they also both have characters of mysterious and surprising parentage.
and major characters who don't realize they are related to each other.
just imagine how the Luke/Leia kiss on Hoth would have turned out if the GoT guys had written it.
by the time of ROTJ, they'd be full-on Jaime/Cersei, with a bunch of rotten jedi kids who would've made Kylo Ren look like a choirboy by comparison.


No... That's how George Tolkien the novel writer would have written it. Those screenplay goons just copied what he wrote. They have no minds of their own.

Like you, evidently.


Oh, snap! Things are really heating up on the message boards.

Re: New Star Wars Trilogy (Benioff & Weiss)

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:54 pm
by Cpt Kirks 2pay
Wolfpack wrote:
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:
TheBaxter wrote:
Fievel wrote:Game of Thrones has:
-Intense family drama
-Various factions killing each other for control of power
-An endless history of wars between these factions
-Numerous unlikely heroes
-Mysterious magical forces at play in the narrative
-Seemingly crucial characters that die early in the story
-The rise of children to main character heroes and villains
-Humor that works best when it is the most sarcastic
-Character arcs that show more heary/depth to the characters than we are led to initially believe
-A diminutive hero who drops quotable bits of wisdom every time he speaks
-Young children ordered (and subsequently) killed by a ruthless villain

Yeah, these guys will do just fine.


they also both have characters of mysterious and surprising parentage.
and major characters who don't realize they are related to each other.
just imagine how the Luke/Leia kiss on Hoth would have turned out if the GoT guys had written it.
by the time of ROTJ, they'd be full-on Jaime/Cersei, with a bunch of rotten jedi kids who would've made Kylo Ren look like a choirboy by comparison.


No... That's how George Tolkien the novel writer would have written it. Those screenplay goons just copied what he wrote. They have no minds of their own.

Like you, evidently.


Oh, snap! Things are really heating up on the message boards.


I'm gonna burn it down.

Re: New Star Wars Trilogy (Benioff & Weiss)

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:18 pm
by Peven
TheBaxter wrote:
Fievel wrote:Game of Thrones has:
-Intense family drama
-Various factions killing each other for control of power
-An endless history of wars between these factions
-Numerous unlikely heroes
-Mysterious magical forces at play in the narrative
-Seemingly crucial characters that die early in the story
-The rise of children to main character heroes and villains
-Humor that works best when it is the most sarcastic
-Character arcs that show more heary/depth to the characters than we are led to initially believe
-A diminutive hero who drops quotable bits of wisdom every time he speaks
-Young children ordered (and subsequently) killed by a ruthless villain

Yeah, these guys will do just fine.


they also both have characters of mysterious and surprising parentage.
and major characters who don't realize they are related to each other.
just imagine how the Luke/Leia kiss on Hoth would have turned out if the GoT guys had written it.
by the time of ROTJ, they'd be full-on Jaime/Cersei, with a bunch of rotten jedi kids who would've made Kylo Ren look like a choirboy by comparison.



now THAT is a Star Wars movie I'd like to see. same "universe", different viewpoint. what is the typical body count of these movies, anyway? not just hundreds but thousands, sometimes millions. StarWars movies kill "people" left and right, blasting them into bits, impaling them or chopping their parts off by light saber, or vaporizing them as their planet is blowed up. why pretend this is some kid-friendly environment? this is a universe every bit as nasty and cut throat and crude as ours, so why are these killers are going to be hung up on speaking like choir boys and committing to celibacy?

Re: New Star Wars Trilogy (Benioff & Weiss)

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:37 pm
by TheBaxter
Wolfpack wrote:
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:
TheBaxter wrote:
Fievel wrote:Game of Thrones has:
-Intense family drama
-Various factions killing each other for control of power
-An endless history of wars between these factions
-Numerous unlikely heroes
-Mysterious magical forces at play in the narrative
-Seemingly crucial characters that die early in the story
-The rise of children to main character heroes and villains
-Humor that works best when it is the most sarcastic
-Character arcs that show more heary/depth to the characters than we are led to initially believe
-A diminutive hero who drops quotable bits of wisdom every time he speaks
-Young children ordered (and subsequently) killed by a ruthless villain

Yeah, these guys will do just fine.


they also both have characters of mysterious and surprising parentage.
and major characters who don't realize they are related to each other.
just imagine how the Luke/Leia kiss on Hoth would have turned out if the GoT guys had written it.
by the time of ROTJ, they'd be full-on Jaime/Cersei, with a bunch of rotten jedi kids who would've made Kylo Ren look like a choirboy by comparison.


No... That's how George Tolkien the novel writer would have written it. Those screenplay goons just copied what he wrote. They have no minds of their own.

Like you, evidently.


Oh, snap! Things are really heating up on the message boards.


he's just upset because after his mate shagged that blonde girl from the bar, she came over to my place, where i showed her a bunch of his posts on here and we both laughed hysterically at him, before she shagged me as well.

Re: New Star Wars Trilogy (Benioff & Weiss)

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:14 pm
by Peven

Re: New Star Wars Trilogy (Benioff & Weiss)

PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:45 pm
by Al Shut
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:No... That's how George Tolkien the novel writer would have written it. Those screenplay goons just copied what he wrote. They have no minds of their own.


I was under the impression that meanwhile the show had veered enough from the books to be judged on it's own.

Re: New Star Wars Trilogy (Benioff & Weiss)

PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:51 pm
by Cpt Kirks 2pay
Al Shut wrote:
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:No... That's how George Tolkien the novel writer would have written it. Those screenplay goons just copied what he wrote. They have no minds of their own.


I was under the impression that meanwhile the show had veered enough from the books to be judgeg on it's own.


Don't be daft.

Re: New Star Wars Trilogy (Benioff & Weiss)

PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 3:02 am
by Ribbons
Al Shut wrote:
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:No... That's how George Tolkien the novel writer would have written it. Those screenplay goons just copied what he wrote. They have no minds of their own.


I was under the impression that meanwhile the show had veered enough from the books to be judgeg on it's own.


Although I'm sure Benioff and Weiss are talented enough writers to create something of their own, the later couple seasons of Game of Thrones are not that. For one thing, the story they're telling now that they've run out of material from the books came in the form of a detailed outline by George RR Martin himself. So it's Martin's story. The only difference is that Benioff and Weiss (and HBO, who probably can't afford to continue paying out the nose) are good with the truncated, CliffsNotes edition. Everything there moves the story forward by blowing stuff up and killing secret people and it all happens really fast [TOO FAST, as some have noted; how's one mofffukka get from the Midlands to Winterfell in one episode, yo?] But whatever double-crosses, gigantic fights, all the characters we loved who may not live, winter is coming and it is here.


George R.R. Martin, on the other hand, takes his outline and thinks about it. He makes some chapters and thinks about it some more. He really fucked up the Sansa chapter, but he was watching a Jets game where they lost but they almost won.

Re: New Star Wars Trilogy (Benioff & Weiss)

PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:57 am
by Peven
think about it, though, a movie is basically two episodes of a tv show. there isn't time for George Martinesque writing if you want to spin a narrative that fits within that time frame, so a couple guys who are decent at condensing a story into action beats with a little exposition in between sounds like an alright fit to make some sci-fi action adventure movies.

Re: New Star Wars Trilogy (Benioff & Weiss)

PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:53 am
by TheBaxter
Ribbons wrote:Everything there moves the story forward by blowing stuff up and killing secret people and it all happens really fast [TOO FAST, as some have noted; how's one mofffukka get from the Midlands to Winterfell in one episode, yo?]


in fairness, that's pretty much how travel in the SW universe works too. though at least they have light speed to justify it.

Daenarys wrote:you've never heard of the Millenium Drogon? it's the dragon that made the Castle Black Run in less than 12 parsecs!

Re: New Star Wars Trilogy (Benioff & Weiss)

PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 2:20 pm
by Ribbons
Peven wrote:think about it, though, a movie is basically two episodes of a tv show. there isn't time for George Martinesque writing if you want to spin a narrative that fits within that time frame, so a couple guys who are decent at condensing a story into action beats with a little exposition in between sounds like an alright fit to make some sci-fi action adventure movies.


Well like Baxter said, in Star Wars they can at least travel at the speed of light. In Game of Thrones, they travel at the speed of horse.

Re: New Star Wars Trilogy (Benioff & Weiss)

PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 2:59 pm
by Cpt Kirks 2pay
Well, once again, ya'll talking crap about these films and no nothing about what you're talking about and as usual need me to come in here to correct your idiot minds.

Yeah there may be light speed in Star Wars but duh you dumb fucks, Star Wars don't happen on just one planet - IT HAPPENS ALL OVER THE FUCKING GALAXY!!!!

So even WITH light speed it's STILL gonna take a huge amount of time for characters to travel to each other. AS THEY HAVE TO FLY THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF MILES!!!!

It's not about distance to get to a place - it's about TIME to get to a place! Even with light speed it still is gonna take them a helluva long time to reach certain places!

So all this condensed time in these films isn't really there at all if you think about it.

Even for Rey to light speed to find Luke that didn't happen in a day. In all that time since the end of The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi the First Order got their shit together, the galaxy was crumbling more and more and fell under The First Order's power, and they then found and came after the Resistance. You think that shit happened in a day or a week, or a month?

Even Rian Johnson in an interview said a significant amount of time had passed between movies. Though what does that douche know? He even said his favorite ship is "the A-wing, of which the new film will have plenty.” - There wasn't. So take his words with a pinch of salt.

But it was stated that at the end of Empire it took the Falcon 6 months to reach Tatooine!

So THINK about what you are saying before you post, people! Bloody 'ell at least TheButcher's posts weren't scribbled in idiocy.

Re: New Star Wars Trilogy (Benioff & Weiss)

PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 3:15 pm
by Peven
the supposed timeline in A New Hope alone is way more fucked up than anything in GoT, so this obsession with how long it takes to get places as some sort of knock on GoT compared to SW is ludicrous, i say, ludicrous. :-P

Re: New Star Wars Trilogy (Benioff & Weiss)

PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 3:27 pm
by Fievel

Re: New Star Wars Trilogy (Benioff & Weiss)

PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:50 pm
by TheBaxter
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:Well, once again, ya'll talking crap about these films and no nothing about what you're talking about and as usual need me to come in here to correct your idiot minds.

Yeah there may be light speed in Star Wars but duh you dumb fucks, Star Wars don't happen on just one planet - IT HAPPENS ALL OVER THE FUCKING GALAXY!!!!

So even WITH light speed it's STILL gonna take a huge amount of time for characters to travel to each other. AS THEY HAVE TO FLY THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF MILES!!!!

It's not about distance to get to a place - it's about TIME to get to a place! Even with light speed it still is gonna take them a helluva long time to reach certain places!


you left out the part about how, according to Einstein's theory of relativity, people going at light speed age more slowly.

little known fact: when Rey first set out to find Luke, they were the same age.

and the reason Yoda was so much older than the other Jedi is because he never went anywhere.

Re: New Star Wars Trilogy (Benioff & Weiss)

PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:52 pm
by Cpt Kirks 2pay
I miss TheButcher.

Re: New Star Wars Trilogy (Benioff & Weiss)

PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 6:22 pm
by Peven
TheBaxter wrote:and the reason Yoda was so much older than the other Jedi is because he never went anywhere.



really? ever heard of the Dagobah System? have you? NOT the same place as Coruscant, now, is it? and what about in AotC when he leads the clone army into battle aboard a star warchopper on that red Mars-like planet with the bug people?? huh? huh? and what about the whorehouses in Mos Eisley on Tatooine where Yoda was known to speak softly but wield a big stick? that randy little frog got around alright :-P

Re: New Star Wars Trilogy (Benioff & Weiss)

PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 6:30 pm
by Peven

Re: New Star Wars Trilogy (Benioff & Weiss)

PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:25 pm
by Cpt Kirks 2pay
Still didn't read the links.

Re: New Star Wars Trilogy (Benioff & Weiss)

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:22 am
by TheBaxter
Peven wrote:
TheBaxter wrote:and the reason Yoda was so much older than the other Jedi is because he never went anywhere.



really? ever heard of the Dagobah System? have you? NOT the same place as Coruscant, now, is it? and what about in AotC when he leads the clone army into battle aboard a star warchopper on that red Mars-like planet with the bug people?? huh? huh? and what about the whorehouses in Mos Eisley on Tatooine where Yoda was known to speak softly but wield a big stick? that randy little frog got around alright :-P


those were just Luke Skywalker-style holographic force projections. [spoi1er]Yoda was really on Dagobah the whole time.[/spoi1er]

Re: New Star Wars Trilogy (Benioff & Weiss)

PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:01 pm
by so sorry