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Re: What have you been watching? (DVD or Films on TV)

Postby caruso_stalker217 on Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:21 am

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Bloo wrote:I've had Killshot on my computer for awhile because you know its Mickey Rourke and Elmore Leonard and I love both of those guys not to mention my man boner for Tom Jane. But I've held back on watching this now I'm glad. thanks for the heads up (though knowing me I'll watch it sooner or later.


I've read up on the movie since then and there were a lot of reshoots and shit apparently, which makes sense. It feels very reshooty. The sleazy U.S. Marshall subplot was actually in the film at one point (with Johnny Knoxville in the role) but it got cut due to poor test audience reactions.

Now that I've thought about it, Rosario really is the best thing going for the film. I may have to rethink my position on Rosario Dawson, Actress.

So, yeah, I'd recommend skipping this. But like you said you'll probably get to it eventually. I would definitely recommend the book, though, if you haven't read it already.


I've been rereading Get Shorty and wanting to get the three Raylan Givens books because the Justified cats GET Elmore Leonard, but it's moving up to he top of my list. I want to reread Be Cool as well, hopefully it's not as shitty as the movie, I read it once and remember it well but could be wrong on that. LOL


I need to finish Get Shorty. I picked that up a couple years back when I never got around to finishing books. I think I've read more books so far this year than the last two or three.
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Re: What have you been watching? (DVD or Films on TV)

Postby Bloo on Sun Aug 19, 2012 4:41 am

caruso_stalker217 wrote:
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Bloo wrote:I've had Killshot on my computer for awhile because you know its Mickey Rourke and Elmore Leonard and I love both of those guys not to mention my man boner for Tom Jane. But I've held back on watching this now I'm glad. thanks for the heads up (though knowing me I'll watch it sooner or later.


I've read up on the movie since then and there were a lot of reshoots and shit apparently, which makes sense. It feels very reshooty. The sleazy U.S. Marshall subplot was actually in the film at one point (with Johnny Knoxville in the role) but it got cut due to poor test audience reactions.

Now that I've thought about it, Rosario really is the best thing going for the film. I may have to rethink my position on Rosario Dawson, Actress.

So, yeah, I'd recommend skipping this. But like you said you'll probably get to it eventually. I would definitely recommend the book, though, if you haven't read it already.


I've been rereading Get Shorty and wanting to get the three Raylan Givens books because the Justified cats GET Elmore Leonard, but it's moving up to he top of my list. I want to reread Be Cool as well, hopefully it's not as shitty as the movie, I read it once and remember it well but could be wrong on that. LOL


I need to finish Get Shorty. I picked that up a couple years back when I never got around to finishing books. I think I've read more books so far this year than the last two or three.


Get Shorty was the first Leonard book I read. I was working at a radio station where we played a pretaped program every 30 minutes so I really only had to work about 3, 4 hours out of a 6, 8 hour shift, so I was reading a lot. It's a great starter book to the world of Elmore Leonard. I like it but it's so different from so many of his other works (little focus on Miami, no Detroit).

I've been reading quite a bit here lately too, maybe I should talk about that in the "what have you been reading" thread
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Re: What have you been watching? (DVD or Films on TV)

Postby caruso_stalker217 on Sun Aug 26, 2012 3:34 pm

Watched KLUTE, starring Donald Sutherland and Jane Fonda's hard nipples. It was pretty good.
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Re: What have you been watching? (DVD or Films on TV)

Postby so sorry on Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:43 pm

So thru no fault but my own, I witnessed perhaps the worst movie I've seen in many many years. The reviews were terrible, it was the butt of internet jokes across the web, and I knew damn well that it was going to be bad. But somewhere in the back of my mind I had a glimmer of hope that I'd get some perverse pleasure out of watching it stink....but no deal. It was putrid, with ZERO redeeming quality, and within 5 minutes of having it on I was embarrassed to be watching it.

Name that movie! It came out this year.
































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Re: What have you been watching? (DVD or Films on TV)

Postby TheBaxter on Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:40 pm

so sorry wrote:So thru no fault but my own, I witnessed perhaps the worst movie I've seen in many many years. The reviews were terrible, it was the butt of internet jokes across the web, and I knew damn well that it was going to be bad. But somewhere in the back of my mind I had a glimmer of hope that I'd get some perverse pleasure out of watching it stink....but no deal. It was putrid, with ZERO redeeming quality, and within 5 minutes of having it on I was embarrassed to be watching it.

Name that movie! It came out this year.



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Re: What have you been watching? (DVD or Films on TV)

Postby Indy Jones on Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:40 pm

Just saw Trollhunter. Very good for a "found-footage" movie, also it's CGI shots we're amazing.
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Re: What have you been watching? (DVD or Films on TV)

Postby Spandau Belly on Sun Sep 16, 2012 7:04 am



BEYOND THE BLACK RAINBOW

I saw that intense trailer with all the Argento-Kubrick hybrid visuals and that synth music and had to see this movie. Watching BEYOND THE BLACK RAINBOW is like being molested by a lava lamp, hypnotic and violating. The film's driven by its look and atmosphere with plot and character taking a backseat, resulting in a movie that was less engaging than I would've liked. It's beautiful to watch and listen to, while also feeling incredibly creepy yet not terribly rewarding.

The plot is about Dr. Arboria, who creates a giant medical research complex full of Kubrickian minimalist decor and Argento lighting schemes, where he will create happiness through technology. There is a little girl who has been raised in the complex who is either a clone of Arboria's dead wife, or Arboria somehow injected his dead wife's psyche into a baby, I wasn't quite clear on that. Arboria turns into a fucked up Howard Hughes type living in his medical complex and leaves the upbringing of the little girl to a doctor named Barry, who looks like Christian Bale and who can seem smarmy and furious frequently at the same time. Naturally, the little girl wants out of this hellish discothèque.

I don't think most people would like this film. It's very dry, keeps a lot of distances from its characters, and its internal logic is hard to understand. But I did enjoy letting the atmosphere and imagery of it all wash over me.

Special note for comic book geeks: If they ever make a SPIDERMAN movie with Mysterio, this is exactly what I would want from that character. This is how I would want his illusions to look and feel.
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Re: What have you been watching? (DVD or Films on TV)

Postby TheBaxter on Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:56 am

so i saw this movie V/H/S over the weekend that's been pretty heavily hyped on AICN. i'm generally a fan of the found footage horror genre and this movie was kind of touted as a found footage creepshow, so i was looking forward to it. unfortunately, all that hype was not earned.

it definitely is like a creepshow for the found footage genre. there's five separate stories, all connected by a sixth framing story. sadly, the anthology concept actually exposes alot more of the common flaws of this genre and the film can't overcome them. 3 things in particular that bothered me.

one, there's the whole "aesthetic" of these films. whether it's "shaky-cam", intentionally grainy or distorted video, jump cuts, etc. if you've seen more than one found footage film then you're familiar with them. this movie not only uses them all (sometimes using the same ones in different stories, and sometimes more creatively than other times) but it OVERUSES them to the point of distraction. how many times have you watched a digital cam, ipod or webcam video on youtube or facebook and seen digital distortion, interference, sudden cuts to old footage that somehow "peeks through" the new footage, or garbled audio. for me the answer is ALMOST NEVER. yet, every one of these films and almost all of the stories in this film have that crap all over them. they are beating you over the head to try to portray the footage as "real" but it actually just ends up being distracting and taking you out of the story because it's so unrealistic and so unlike how actual, average consumer-quality video recorders work. oh, and if you think the "V/H/S" title explains it by having all the stories take place a long time ago when stuff was recorded on video.... uhh, no. best i could tell, ALL the stories in this film take place in the modern era and were filmed digitally. (which raises another issue with why, in the framing story, all this stuff was transferred to VHS. the framing story is about guys breaking into a house to steal a particular VHS tape, and having to watch these other tapes to find it... so why were these obviously DIGITAL recordings transferred to VHS tapes? my guess is because having a bunch of guys sitting at a computer, sifting through some AVI files, would have been boring to watch. but really... VHS? why not DVD? i guess selling a movie called "DVD" might have produced some challenges, but the logic of it all is just mind-numbingly dumb. oh, and the payoff for that framing story is so lame and bad that the whole framing device is useless anyway. they could've just dispensed with it altogether.)

two, every one of these types of films starts off with a bunch of setup scenes at the beginning that introduces the characters, concept, and (usually) tries to explain why these people are filming whatever is going on. makes sense in the typical found footage film. problem is, when you have six separate stories, suddenly you now need six groups of setup scenes. these scenes are tedious and boring enough when you only have to sit through them once to get to the good stuff... when you've got to watch six of them, it really kills the momentum of the film. if the average film of this genre is like a rollercoaster ride, then this is like a really short rollercoaster ride that you have to keep getting off and then waiting in line another 10-15 minutes before you can get back on again. it also makes for a film that feels really long. i don't know exactly how long the film was, but it felt like at least a couple hours. they could have easily dropped one of the stories (and i have my idea of which one) and at least tightened it up some.

and finally, there's the whole business of explaining why they are filming, and why they KEEP filming when shit starts happening. this is always an issue for any film of this type, and some deal with it more cleverly than others. so it's no surprise that when you have 6 stories, some do a better job than others. i felt like only one of the films really cleverly deals with the issue (involving a guy wearing a pair of video-recording glasses). another one takes place entirely on webcam, which seems clever, until you get to a couple scenes where one character specifically mentions the fact that he wasn't recording their webcam chat. umm, then where did this video come from? in fairness, the way it ends up, it turns out he could have been lying... but then what was the purpose of him lying about it, and what is the purpose of him recording it after all? another one has a girl recording her road trip with her husband, and features the typical scenes of people filming shit they never actually film in real life, like her filming her husband pumping gas. who films their husband pumping gas for a road trip video? do they sit at home and watch it and say "ooh, remember that time at the exxon when you pumped gas? oh, what great memories!" and then some of the stories basically don't even bother trying to explain why they're filming.

as for the stories themselves, as you'd expect in an anthology film, it's hit and miss. i would say this one is more miss than hit. the first story, involving guys picking up chicks at a club to film them having sex, is pretty predictable, especially once you get your first scene of one of the "girls." it does have a pretty good ending scene though. the second one is the most different from the rest, as it's more of a violent torture-porn shock-based type story. it's got a couple pretty disturbing scenes (one that very cleverly plays on the whole "this is being filmed" idea that i don't want to give away cause it's a bit of a twist, the other just a really shocking violent gory scene) but it feels a bit out of place in the film, despite the fact that there's plenty of gore and violence to go around in a couple of the other stories. the 3rd story just made little sense to me, it involves some kids going to a lake on vacation and just seemed like a really lame stor, this is the one i would've dropped. the fourth is the webcam story with a girl calling her boyfriend during what seems to be a haunting. the ending "twist" of this one confused me, mostly in the failure to fully explain what it is that was "haunting" the girl. and the last one, i think, was probably the best story. actually, the story itself wasn't all that compelling, involving some guys going to a house where they think there's a halloween party and turns out, no, it's not. it's got the best visuals as they are running through the house with all kinds of crazy shit going on around them. finally, the framing story, like i mentioned, was lame and pointless and actually ends before the last tape even gets played, so they don't even really stick to the concept.

overall, if you're really a fan of this kind of film, it might be worth watching for a couple of the better stories, but don't expect much. if found footage films frustrate you, then you'd probably be 6 times as frustrated by this movie, so don't even bother.
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Re: What have you been watching? (DVD or Films on TV)

Postby so sorry on Wed Oct 10, 2012 1:04 pm

TheBaxter wrote:so i saw this movie V/H/S over the weekend that's been pretty heavily hyped on AICN. i'm generally a fan of the found footage horror genre and this movie was kind of touted as a found footage creepshow, so i was looking forward to it. unfortunately, all that hype was not earned.


Coincidental timing: there was a review by "The Kidd" on the mothersite a few hours after you posted this.
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Re: What have you been watching? (DVD or Films on TV)

Postby so sorry on Wed Oct 10, 2012 1:10 pm

So I got a free month of HBO, and have been using the HBO Go app on my iPad pretty much constantly for the past few weeks.

Watched the last two seasons of Entourage (stunk), last season of Curb Your Enthusiasm (good but not great), a few movies I've been meaning to catch up on (Black Swan, Horrible Bosses, the last two Harry Potters), and also a few that I never intended to watch but did anyway (The Dilemna and some stinker called The Cooler).

Gearing up to blow thru Game of Thrones and a few other movies by the end of this month. Then I'll make sure i don't get suckered into getting HBO (until the next free offer comes my way). Take that HBO!!!!
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Re: What have you been watching? (DVD or Films on TV)

Postby travis-dane on Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:23 pm

UNIVERSAL SOLDIER: DAY OF RECKONING

I dont know if you guys have seen Universal Soldier Regeneration. If you did, you know it is a great movie.
They bring back DOLPH and JCVD and they throw Andrei Arlowski into the mix as a new breed of UNI SOL, who gets out of control, bad things happen.
John Hyams reinvented the franchise and created a tense film with great action sequences. His dad, Peter Hyams, worked as the DP and the movie looked really good.

So, John Hyams did the sequel Day of Reckoning. They brought back DOLPH, JCVD, Andrei Arlowski and they add Scott Adkins. Shit goes down.

The movie is brutal and pulls no punches (or kicks). There is no CGI blood, the fights are shot clean and you can feel the impact of every blow.
Peter Hyams is not the DP anymore, but the movie looks really good, it was filmed in Baton Rouge, and it looks like a "real" movie, with nice crisp photography and long, clean shots, no avid farts and no washed out or tinted colors.

The story is crazy (in a good way) and takes the franchise in a whole new direction.

The last twenty minutes of the movie are an insane action and blood fest, the DOLPH vs. Adkins bout is one for the ages and JCVD vs. Adkins is done very well too.

Watch it when you get the chance, it is a really interesting movie with some nice twists and turns.
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Re: What have you been watching? (DVD or Films on TV)

Postby travis-dane on Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:36 pm

TOTAL RECALL 2012

Okay, this is not a good movie. I was confused, like the movie is, about what this movie is about.

First, the movie tells me that it is based on the other movie called Total Recall. The screen writers of the other Total Recall movie even get writing credits. But the new Total Recall movie wants to be clever, so it remembers this in the closing credits. Because the new Total Recall is a modern movie, it has no opening credits. But it has some explaining to do in the opening, so the new Total Recall movie tells me some info before the movie starts via some title cards. The info it gives me is so important that no screenwriter could have written it into the dialogue of the movie. BUT the screenwriters do write the info into the movie. So there is some recalling going on. For me at least. I recalled the info from the begining when it was brought up again in the movie, even after the third time, I could Recall the info. But it is important.

After that we meet the new Quiad/Hauser in a intense action scene that turns out to be a dream. Colin Farrel plays the Arnold Schwarzenegger. He is confused, so is the character he plays. And me too.

Kate Beckinsale plays Sharon Stone, she is confused too, because she has no clue what her job is, she does not Recall, because Brian Cranston, who plays Ronnie Cox, did not tell her what she needs to know, so that she cant do her job right. Brian Cranston knows what to do, but he tells nobody.

Anyway, Kate tries to kill Colin, because she does not know that she's not supposed to kill Colin, because Brian did not tell her. After Colin escapes, Brian tells Kate not to kill Colin, but she does not listen to Brian, because he is her Boss. Later Brian confronts her about that, but she does not say "I did not Recall that order", a missed opportunity there.

Since nobody is there to play Michael Ironside, they just merge him and Sharon Stone into Kate Beckinsale. If I recall this right, the relationship between Ironside and Stone was important to the story, so this character merger brings up numerous problems in the new Total Recall movie. Kate just looks stupid because for her hating Colin without explanation, because she is not Michael Ironside, but has his character arc, it is strange that she hates Colin because he fucked Sharon Stone. Recall that!

But they go one step further and merge the Dream Doctor with the studly italian co-worker of Colin. Thats stupid too. Bokeem Woodbine plays them both. He recalls his important "this is all a dream" scene from the real Total Recall movie and gets shot in the head by Colin.

Jessica Biel plays Rachel Ticotin and she does the same stuff that Rachel does except grabbing Colins cock.

So everybody meets up at Bill Nighy's place, who plays nobody, because in the new Total Recall movie there are no mutants. But the woman with three boobs shows up, not at Bills place of course, that would be stupid, because there are no mutants in the new Total Recall movie. I bet that the Kuato puppet is not happy about that. Nobody plays the Kuato puppet, not even a CGI Kuato replacement for poor Kuato, he's out.

So Brian kills Bill, Brian wants Hauser back, he leaves with Kate and Jessica before Hauser gets his recall and Colin kills all the goons and goes after them.

I hope you recall the tile cards I mentioned in the begining of my review, because the title cards told me that there is a elevator between Europe and Australia. The elevator is called The Fall. The showdown takes place while The Fall is falling from Europe to Australia. Colin saves Jessica, Colin fights Brian ontop of The Fall and Colin stabs Brian in the gut. Then The Fall falls back in his hole and Brian dies in the explosion. Yes The Fall explodes because Colin planted about ten tiny bombs in The Fall. The Fall can hold up to fifty thousand people, but those ten bombs and the heat of the earth core where The Fall falls through bring The Fall down. FOR GOOD! A Fallout so to speak.

But Kate is not dead. Colin punches her and shoots her in the boobs. Then Kate is dead too and her storyarc of self betrayal and not knowing why she hates Colin so much is never recalled by anybody but me. And somewhere else Richter is at the party, because he's alive. He keeps death at arms reach. Good man, he loves his wife. I hope he gets over her soon.

No one in the new Total Recall movie recalls Mars.

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Re: What have you been watching? (DVD or Films on TV)

Postby TheBaxter on Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:16 am

there should be a gov't recall of that movie.
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Re: What have you been watching? (DVD or Films on TV)

Postby Al Shut on Mon Nov 05, 2012 2:49 pm

Wouldn't it been cool if they went to Mars

in an elevator
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Re: What have you been watching? (DVD or Films on TV)

Postby TheBaxter on Mon Nov 05, 2012 3:22 pm

Al Shut wrote:Wouldn't it been cool if they went to Mars

in an elevator


it would have been about as believable.
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Postby so sorry on Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:45 pm

There was a Bond marathon of sorts on yesterday (TNT I think). Caught the last 40 minutes of Casino Royale (with the rediculous poker game) and the beginning of Quantom of Solace. Man was that a stinker.
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Re: What have you been watching? (DVD or Films on TV)

Postby TheBaxter on Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:27 am

i liked Casino Royale, but Quantum of Suckage i have mostly, thankfully, forgotten.
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Postby Spandau Belly on Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:12 pm

I've been revisiting some of Bond films to get pumped up for SKYFALL, not on tv, but from my bluray set. I chose to watch the ones that I like, but don't watch as often. THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH continues to grow on me. I think when I first saw it, I got all hung up on how bad Richards was and how Begbie's henchman character gets hyped up as The Terminator and then never really delivers on that superhuman strength and numb-to-pain hype. I think Elektra King is actually one of the series's best villains. And theme song is definately the best of the last 30 years.

I haven't got around to revisiting either of the Danny Craig entries yet. I think because I wasn't blown away CASINO, I don't have the negative feelings everybody else seems to have about QUANTUM. The remember finding the villains somewhat underwhelming and not liking the shakey cam approach to filming the action, but there was lots of other stuff I did like about the film. I liked Olga. When they managed to keep the camera still, I liked the cinematography. And I really liked that part where they somehow get Gemma all covered in oil and get her all the way to her hotel bed without leaving a long greasey black streak going all the way through the hotel.

I'll probably revisit at least one of Craig's entries on the weekend before going to see SKYFALL.
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Postby Spandau Belly on Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:17 pm

i revisited two movies I remembered seeing as a boy.

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MIDNIGHT COWBOY

This film is a pure masterpiece. They're able shift between different tones pretty brilliantly in this film. I went between laughing at these characters and pitying them without it feeling jarring or too manipulative. The story develops in a natural way full of memorable and engaging scenes. It's also always nice to see these old movies from when New York was a shit-hole.

Jon Voight gives an amazing performance. He speaks in that same funny voice that Keanu Reeves did in DEVIL'S ADVOCATE, but it sounds more natural coming out of his mouth. His character is a moron, but that doesn't stop Voight from making him three dimensional. The film handles flashbacks well to show the sexual abuse Voight had endured that made him who he is and Voight is really good at showing the character's compartmentalization process in a way that makes it make sense how he can be so upbeat and sincere despite his background.

Dustin Hoffmann is an odd choice for the role of Ratzo, it seems like the type of role that would be a more obvious choice for John Cazale or Eli Wallach, but Hoffmann pulls it off. He does a solid job showing the character's vulnerability and patheticness that keeps him from simply being despicable.

I loved this film, I'm glad I watched it again and I will continue to revisit it in the future.

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GORILLAS IN THE MIST

This is a biopic about Dian Fossey, who despite lacking an education in zoology suddenly felt compelled to abandon her normal life in America and head off to Congo (where you are the endangered species) to study gorillas in the 1960s. She quickly gets into conflict with poachers and dedicates her life to protecting gorillas. A lot of biopics meander and have problems with scope or knowing what story they want to tell. This film has good focus. Although I would've liked to have seen what happened with her fiancé. She's engaged to a man back in America when she first leaves to go to Congo. She initially planned to be there for 6 months and then go back and get married, but ended up staying there the rest of her life. I assume they broke up at some point, but we don't see that. Did he ever come to Africa and see what she was doing? Did they just break up in letters? I wanted to know that. It felt like a scene got cut that shouldn't have.

The film really captures the awe of exploring and interacting with exotic animals. The cinematography of the jungle is great and Rick Baker does incredible work making convincing fake gorillas. There were very few times when I even thought I wasn't looking at a real gorilla, most of those were with the baby gorilla that Fossey rescues from a poacher's van and nurses. That one looked a bit like a puppet sometimes.

I liked this movie. It was an interesting adventure and I liked the characterization of Fossey in that the film wasn't trying to make her look good all the time.
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Postby Spandau Belly on Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:52 pm

FOLLOWING

This is the first film made by Christopher Nolan, a filmmaker who I like, but not as much as everybody else on the internet seems to. I have now seen every film this man has made, and I would say this is one of his best. Although set in present (the 1990s) day, it is a classic noir film involving all the classic elements: a small fry protagonist, a big crime lord, a seductive blonde woman, a big score etc.

The setup is that a young loser wannabe writer takes to following strangers around, seeing where they go and what their habits are, in hopes that one of them will inspire a character for a novel. He one day follows a burglar who notices he's being followed. The burglar is a posh and confident man who takes the writer under his wing. The two become burglars together and share not only in the voyeuristic joy of observing other people's lives, but also influencing those lives. When they break into the home of a beautiful woman, the writer guy decides he's going to follow her after the burglary and try to date her.....but she's more trouble than he can handle!

I found this film had a good minimalist Hitchcock feel with good focus, solid pacing, and simple intrigue. I also found the dialogue more natural and the characterization much more three-dimensional than Nolan's other movies. The acting is surprisingly good for such a low-budget film. I think this is a really good little noir film. I'm glad I rented it.
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Re: What have you been watching? (DVD or Films on TV)

Postby Ribbons on Sun Jan 06, 2013 3:17 pm

Spandau Belly wrote:I have now seen every film this man has made,


Incorrect:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0411302/

(It's a student film, so I don't think many people have seen it)

I liked Following, and you're right about the dialogue being more naturalistic. Although it's hard to say because three of those are superhero movies. I was not a huge fan of the main actor, but Cobb was good (strangely he has done nothing since, because he totally looks like an actor). It also introduced me to Nolan's love of double-entendres (The Young Man's description of the story is referred to as "the following"). My favorite films of his are still Memento and The Dark Knight, but this is a solid entry.

Nolan apparently first came up with the idea for Inception during his Following days, which might explain why a movie about dreams primarily involves safes and guns.
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Postby Spandau Belly on Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:09 am

Okay smartypants, I have not seen Nolan's student film.

I agree with you that the bloke playing Cobb seems like he would've had an acting career that went somewhere, at least as a bit part player on tv or something. Who knows, maybe he wasn't an actor or interested in acting, just a friend of Nolan's who did this movie then happily went back to his career as a dentist or whatever.
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Postby Tyrone_Shoelaces on Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:02 am

Things I learned watching In Time:

Andrew Niccol has big, beautiful ideas but stutters a bit when trying to explain them.
Justin Timberlake was miscast.
That hairstyle looks terrible on Amanda Seyfried.
Alex Pettyfer is a better actor when he's not concentrating on an American accent.
I probably shouldn't have watched In Time.
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Postby Ribbons on Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:42 am

It's time you'll never get back...

Ha! I bet I'm the first person to make that joke!
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Postby Hermanator X on Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:31 am

Spandau Belly wrote:FOLLOWING

This is the first film made by Christopher Nolan, a filmmaker who I like, but not as much as everybody else on the internet seems to. I have now seen every film this man has made, and I would say this is one of his best. Although set in present (the 1990s) day, it is a classic noir film involving all the classic elements: a small fry protagonist, a big crime lord, a seductive blonde woman, a big score etc.

The setup is that a young loser wannabe writer takes to following strangers around, seeing where they go and what their habits are, in hopes that one of them will inspire a character for a novel. He one day follows a burglar who notices he's being followed. The burglar is a posh and confident man who takes the writer under his wing. The two become burglars together and share not only in the voyeuristic joy of observing other people's lives, but also influencing those lives. When they break into the home of a beautiful woman, the writer guy decides he's going to follow her after the burglary and try to date her.....but she's more trouble than he can handle!

I found this film had a good minimalist Hitchcock feel with good focus, solid pacing, and simple intrigue. I also found the dialogue more natural and the characterization much more three-dimensional than Nolan's other movies. The acting is surprisingly good for such a low-budget film. I think this is a really good little noir film. I'm glad I rented it.


I like the fact that the writer has a batman logo sticker on his front door too. Long game plan or merely a coinkidink?
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Postby Spandau Belly on Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:02 am

Yeah, I noticed the Batman sticker in FOLLOWING, too. I'd call it manifest destiny. He probably always liked the character and dreamed about making a Batman film.

Nolan has also referenced James Bond movies a fair bit in his films, so if he ever gets to make Bond film, it won't come as a surprise to me.
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Postby Tyrone_Shoelaces on Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:29 pm

I should not have enjoyed The Sitter as much as I did. Delightfully inappropriate.
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Postby Ribbons on Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:09 pm

Spandau Belly wrote:Nolan has also referenced James Bond movies a fair bit in his films, so if he ever gets to make Bond film, it won't come as a surprise to me.


He's apparently met with the Broccolis already, so at this point it's more than just a dream (within a dream within a dream). But it's funny, as hot a property as I'm sure Nolan is, I don't know if I can see them giving him enough creative control to make it worth doing. He's more commercially successful than QT ever was, but if they turned him away when he asked to make a Bond movie it could happen to anyone.
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Postby Spandau Belly on Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:15 pm

Yeah, the Broccolis have always been protective and turned down plenty of high-profile bids in favor of maintaining control of their property.

I would love a Tarantino Bond film (I would probably want Tarantino to do a Bond movie more than any other filmmaker), but I can understand that he would make them apprehensive. He's a very edgy filmmaker. I've also heard the Broccolis are prejudiced against American directors, hence the only American to ever direct a Bond film was that one unofficial Bond NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN which was made outside of their influence.

However Nolan is pretty safe. He's not an edgy shock guy like Tarantino. Plus, he's English. I would tend to think that they'll keep him in mind as director next time they relaunch the series with a new lead actor.
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Postby caruso_stalker217 on Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:30 pm

CARUSO REVIEWS TWIN PEAKS: FIRE WALK WITH ME, OR FUCK YOU: THE MOVIE

This is the most pointless film ever made. I'm not sure who this is even for. People who aren't familiar with the show won't have any idea who any of these people are or what is going on, because there is no character development or story. And the people who have seen the show don't want to watch a fucking prequel.

This seems like a no-brainer to me. Your television show gets cancelled and ends on a gigantic cliffhanger. You get the opportunity to make a film and continue the story. If it's me, that's what I would do. If you're David Lynch you do the opposite and retread the same ground you covered on the television show. And you do it poorly.

So in addition to being the most pointless film in creation, it is also the biggest wasted opportunity of all time. And a waste of my fucking time.

I guess the protagonist this time around is Laura Palmer, a character who was dead for the entire run of the series. Every important and valuable piece of information there is to know about Laura Palmer is covered in the television series. It is also covered again here. There is nothing more to learn about the character, whose murder was solved halfway through season two, and there is no mystery here because, of course, we know who the killer is. Laura isn't a likable character. We understand why she behaves the way she does and I guess I should feel sorry for her, but I don't because she just isn't interesting. She spends the entire film either crying, yelling or snorting cocaine.

Her interactions with the other characters provide no further insights into who she is. People from the show pop up because they have to. If you don't know the show, you won't know the characters and you won't give a shit. I do know the show and the characters and even I don't give a shit. They are trapped in a bad script with no room to breathe.

One of the major problems with making a film centering around Laura Palmer is that you're stuck with the boring characters most directly relating to her. Characters like Leo and Bobby started off fairly one-dimensional, but became a lot more interesting as the show continued. You got to see different sides to them and you could relate to them. By making the film a prequel, you lose all of that. They're right back at square one with absolutely nothing to do. This is just bad writing. And a waste of my fucking time.

"You’re not just three guys on a fishing trip, you’re a whole damn town." From the episode where Deputy Andy finds out that his sperms are working. That line also applies here. Twin Peaks isn't a handful of boring douchebags. It's a town full of interesting and quirky characters that we have come to know and love...and none of them are in this film. It just isn't Twin Peaks without Sheriff Truman, Lucy, Andy, motherfucking Hawk, Audrey, Big Ed, Pete, Ben Horne and so on and so on. By setting the film before Laura Palmer's murder, you lose all of those interesting people.

So, in addition to not giving the audience what they want, this film is also just really poorly constructed. The first twenty minutes concern an FBI agent played by Chris Isaak who is obviously standing in for Kyle Maclachlan who didn't really want to be involved with the film. I guess I don't really have a problem with the character, except it fucks up the continuity of the show and goes absolutely nowhere. Isaak disappears for some reason and this is never followed up. Maclachlan shows up and just has zero fucking energy, zero interest. There is a mind-numbingly infuriating scene where David Bowie shows up and talks a lot of nonsense. This scene feels like it was just dropped in randomly. There is no context. It's a pointless distraction and again it leads nowhere.

After many false starts the action moves to Twin Peaks where whatever potential momentum this film might have had is lost for good. Nobody gives a shit about Laura Palmer. That story was told already. I don't need to see it repeated here for two tedious, humorless hours.

Since I'm not a complete asshole, I will list some things about the film I liked.

1) Moira Kelly taking over the role of Donna when Lara Flynn Boyle couldn't do the movie. She doesn't have that bitchy quality about her like Boyle does. She's really fucking pretty and I wish she had been in the television show.
2) The song that was playing in the nightclub scene with Laura and Donna was cool.
3) Moira Kelly and Sheryl Lee showed their boobs.

The 7.0 IMDb rating for this is absolutely ridiculous. This is a terrible film. Do not watch it.
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Postby Al Shut on Sun Jan 13, 2013 6:33 am

Have to disagree a bit here, unfortunately it has been years since I saw it (or the series for that matter) so I'm not sure why I felt positively about the movie anymore.

I may be a bit of an exception having watched the first season on DVD but not the second. Here it is where my memory gets very fussy and I'm not sure whether I knew the first season when watching the movie or how much I knew about what was going on in Twin Peaks.

What's more important is that I'm part of what might be the actual target of the movie, people who couldn't make much sense out of David Lynch's work. If I remember correctly it was Fire walk with me that taught me a lot about how not literal I have to take a lot of things in his movies and how they might relate to reality that is somewhere hidden under all that weird stuff. I do think it greatly improved my understanding of movies like Lost Highway or Mulholland Drive at least in terms of what the hell is going on on a very basic level.

Also as I was notoriously confused it didn't matter much if the weird stuff has a point or leads somewhere, I enjoyed much of it for absurdity's sake
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Postby Spandau Belly on Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:21 am

It's been a few years since I've seen FIRE WALK WITH ME too, but I think I agree more with Caruso. The movie has two aspects to it, neither of which really offended me, but neither of which interested me.

The first aspect was the more literal approach to the mythology. When you watch the tv show, you can almost take Bob and the Lodges as metaphors for unexplainable madness and evil. The movie seems more interested in the mechanics of these mythic elements and spelling out the rules, rituals, protocols etc of Bob and the Lodges etc with magic rings and exposition. If I wanted a bunch of yammering about the technical side of magic, I'd watch a Harry Potter movie. I preferred the show's more abstract approach.

The second aspect was the Laura Palmer prequel aspect. I always felt in the show that Laura was there as an allegory for whole town (the wholesome veneer covering the dark side). So for me, Laura Palmer was there as a device for the show's Jungian themes. I think she worked better as a symbol than as an actual character. And like Caruso said, the movie mostly just dramatized events that had been covered in the show through dialogue.
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Postby caruso_stalker217 on Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:12 pm

Spandau Belly wrote:The first aspect was the more literal approach to the mythology. When you watch the tv show, you can almost take Bob and the Lodges as metaphors for unexplainable madness and evil. The movie seems more interested in the mechanics of these mythic elements and spelling out the rules, rituals, protocols etc of Bob and the Lodges etc with magic rings and exposition. If I wanted a bunch of yammering about the technical side of magic, I'd watch a Harry Potter movie. I preferred the show's more abstract approach.


And even then, the film doesn't actually explain anything. In fact, I feel like I know less about what was going on in the show than I did before I watched the film.

Spandau Belly wrote:The second aspect was the Laura Palmer prequel aspect. I always felt in the show that Laura was there as an allegory for whole town (the wholesome veneer covering the dark side). So for me, Laura Palmer was there as a device for the show's Jungian themes. I think she worked better as a symbol than as an actual character. And like Caruso said, the movie mostly just dramatized events that had been covered in the show through dialogue.


You explained my feelings exactly, although I doubt I've ever used "Jungian" in a discussion before. (or "veneer" for that matter)
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Postby Al Shut on Mon Jan 14, 2013 4:03 pm

And yet he's starring at me right from your post
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Al Shut wrote:And yet he's starring at me right from your post


Actually, I believe he's staring just to your left.
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Postby caruso_stalker217 on Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:25 pm

CARUSO REVIEWS SEX AND FURY

At the not-actual-recommendation of my fellow OLEGer Spandau, I decided to watch this 1973 Japanese exploitation film. According to Wikipedia, this is a softcore pornographic film (or "pink film" as they are called in Japan) but I honestly didn't find it to be that. At least, not until the girl-on-girl scene that turned into a threesome. And the part where the heroine is chained up and whipped in a bondage-type situation. Then I saw what they were talking about. But aside from that, I thought it was more of a traditional revenge picture with the tits-and-ass thrown in.

The story concerns a naked woman named Ocho who goes undercover as a clothed woman to get revenge, but through the course of the film keeps losing her clothes. Then at the end she puts on some clothes and then she takes them off enough so we can see her boobs and she kills like twenty people.

There is also a guy in the movie who is trying to get revenge, too. He is also the worst fucking assassin in history. He makes three different attempts to kill the same guy and he fails every time. It might have had something to do with him running up and yelling something to the effect of "Hey, asshole, I'm going to fucking kill you!" instead of trying to be sneaky about it. Nobody likes a show-off.

Meanwhile, there is another naked woman who is pretending to be an English person with clothes, but is actually Swedish and a bad actress. Her name is Christina Lindberg and she is famous for being naked all the time. I can see why her most famous role required her to be mute, because her acting is garbage. Her body, however, is quite something. Those clever Swedes. She and the shitty assassin have a sex history and there are several funny scenes where they both converse in stilted English and confess their love for one another over and over.

I guess since this was meant to titillate with depictions of full-blown nudity and cunnilingus they could have just thrown a lot of that onscreen and called it good. But they actually managed to get a couple of pretty good scenes out of it. The obvious one would be when some assassins catch Ocho taking a bath and she gets into a full-on naked sword fight, cutting and stabbing dudes left and right while her boobs bounce around in slow-motion. I was able to appreciate this scene not on a sexy exploitative level, but on a badass action level. It actually works within the story and not as some throwaway gratuitous nudity. Ambushing somebody in the tub is not a bad idea and it shows that Ocho is such a badass that she can fight naked and still kick everybody's ass.

Like Viggo in EASTERN PROMISES, but with less dick-flapping.

I also had to give the movie props for the death-by-poisoned-cooch scene. I can honestly say I haven't seen that one before. And unless that is a staple of these softcore porn revenge movies, I doubt I'll see it again.

So thanks, Spandau, for directing me to this piece of '70s exploitation cinema. My 88 minutes were not wasted.
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Postby BuckyO'harre on Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:22 am

caruso_stalker217 wrote:I also had to give the movie props for the death-by-poisoned-cooch scene. I can honestly say I haven't seen that one before. And unless that is a staple of these softcore porn revenge movies, I doubt I'll see it again.



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Japan is a weird place.
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Postby Spandau Belly on Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:47 pm

caruso_stalker217 wrote:So thanks, Spandau, for directing me to this piece of '70s exploitation cinema. My 88 minutes were not wasted.


I'm glad you enjoyed SEX & FURY. I find it to be a very elegant movie with great production value for this type of film. It's got very strong style and I reflect on it fairly often.

Reiko Ike is a great leading lady for this type of film. Aside from being beautiful, I find she has a good authoritative presence and is willing to commit fully to these silly movies. I've seen her in a couple films, and liked this one the best. Although I do still want to find that crazy Japanese Hammer horror film she did.

I really love the set design, especially that room where the walls all are painted like those domino tiles they play with. I think in my next home I'll paint the walls of a room like that. The score is really nice doing that whole upbeat 60s thing. And I find the staging and shot compesition to be really good throughout.

I rented the sequel, FEMALE YAKUZA TALE: INQUISITION & TORTURE, a few weeks ago, and it just kinda lacked that elegance that made the first one so captivating. It was more outgrageous, that's for sure. Reiko Ike returns as Ocho and her investigation of The Crotch-Gouge Killer leads her to taking down a whole cartel that uses women's kunises for smuggling drugs. They went with the 'more is better' mentality and get 30 or so naked women all sword-fighting in a room with a wacky Dario Argento lighting scheme. I like that they all disrobe one by one in a row like they're The Rockettes or some shit. But the overall movie just wasn't as consistantly entertaining as SEX & FURY.
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Postby caruso_stalker217 on Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:22 am

Spandau Belly wrote:They went with the 'more is better' mentality and get 30 or so naked women all sword-fighting in a room with a wacky Dario Argento lighting scheme.


And just like that, it's on my Netflix queue.

Spandau Belly wrote:Although I do still want to find that crazy Japanese Hammer horror film she did.


Was that the one with the Asian Christopher Lee? Because that trailer was insane.
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Postby Spandau Belly on Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:16 am

Yup, that's the one. Christopher Li in full effect!



I can't find it on video or youtube, but I'll keep digging.
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Postby Wolfpack on Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:27 pm

Just saw Captain America: The First Avenger on Netflix. It remembers what it's like to be a COMIC BOOK movie. It suffered from viewers being on a diet rich in gritty superheroes.
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LONE WOLF & CUB

I watched all six films in this series and consider it excellent entertainment. As most people probably know, it is a series of films that follow a once-prestigious Royal executioner who is frame by a mutinous clan (The Yagyu); he goes on the run with his son working as an assassin for hire while fending off attacks from his Yagyu nemesis, Lord Retsudo. It is a generally fun series, even though each installment follows a certain formula, the joy is found in its pulpy gimmicks. Lone Wolf pushes his son around in a cart, which has many funny surprise weapons, and Lone Wolf is a master of sensing an ambush.

The only thing I don't really like is that the series never reaches any kind of conclusion. They could've just as easily made more of these films. I would say the fourth film in the series (HEART OF THE PARENT, HEART OF THE CHILD aka BABY CART IN PERIL) is the best of the series. It is the only one directed by a different director than the other five films. I like it because it takes the series' main theme of child-rearing and uses it in an interesting way and because Lone Wolf's target is a cool character.

This series is generally well directed with decent production value, good shot composition, and fairly well choreographed action with lots of good comic gore. The acting is your usual intense Asian overacting, which suits the pulpy nature of the material.

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FEMALE CONVICT SCORPION

I watched all four films in this series, and although I had a good time, I don't consider them terribly good films. They are somewhat similiar to the quiet slowpaced Swedish exploitation films that would typically star Christina Lindberg. I liked that the series had a plot and each installment would continue where the previous one left off while still being rewarding adventures in themselves. The hero is Scorpion, a convict who speaks very rarely and has incredible stength and stamina. She has one iconic outfit, which looks like a widow version of Carmen Sandiago's outift, but she doesn't always wear it because she is, as you may have guessed, frequently in prison. The series has some good ideas and crazy moments, the execution isn't always so great. The directing is clumsy and the films frequently go flat.

I would say the third one, BEAST STABLE, is the best. While on the run, a cop catches up with Scorpion, he handcuffs her to his arm, but she cuts his arm off and makes her way to the red light district, which is also the cemetary (?) where she makes friends with a local prostitute and discover that her madame is one of Scorpion's old rivals from prison. Scorpion must hide in the sewers to get away from the now one-armed cop and also take down the evil madame with a room-sized cage full of crows. This installment keeps its momentum the best and has the most crazy characters and crazy ideas. And the openning scenes of Scorpion running through the streets of Tokyo with a severed arm dangling from her are hilarious.

Overall, I wouldn't recommend this series to most people, but I am glad I watched it.
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Postby Wolfpack on Sun Mar 03, 2013 8:55 pm

It took me almost 20 years, but I finally saw Pulp Fiction. Ving Rhames, I had no idea!
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Postby TheBaxter on Fri Mar 08, 2013 6:25 pm

i saw Perks of Being a Wallflower a while back, but i guess i never got around to commenting on it.

i really really really liked the film... til the end. the ending kinda ruins it for me. without spoiling it, i'd just say it seemed to come out of nowhere and felt very tacked on. if you're going to do a story about child sexual abuse i think you need to earn it a little better. it's not really a subject you can just append to the end of a coming-of-age teen film and do justice to it. i'm sure if i rewatched it there would be hints and clues toward what happened, but the way it came about in the film just didn't feel right.

it was very frustrating because up until that point i could identify a lot with the main character who is kind of finding his way through HS, trying to figure out where he fits in, the group dynamics, the music, everything, it really worked wonderfully. there's a universality to the characters, not in the specific things that happen or who they are, but just that general feeling. the ending destroyed that universality by making it about such a specific topic. i'm sure if i had experienced sexual abuse myself i would have identified with the character even more, but that's the point: since i didn't have that specific experience, that identification i had been feeling throughout the film ended entirely. it goes from being universal such that many people can identify with the experiences in the film, to being very specific so that only a specific group can feel that identification. and that's fine if that's the film you're making, but you can't have it both ways. if you want to have a film that is universal or you want to have a film that is very personal and deeply felt or identified with by only a few, it's the filmmakers choice, but you can't have 90% of one and then suddenly become the other for the last 10%. i know this is based on a book, maybe the book handles the topic better. i could imagine a way a film could broach that topic without losing that feeling of universality, but the film just fails at it.

but... 90% of the film i really really liked.

though i do have a hard time buying that these kids didn't know the name of the "tunnel song" or who sang it. especially kids who are musically hip enough to be into the smiths

also, even the parts of the film i did like, didn't really feel as "john hughes"-ish as the reviews made out. this felt a little more real in some ways, more complex, a little more elevated and heightened in others, but not quite the tone of even the more serious hughes films like breakfast club. definitely no where near the humor of most of his other stuff.
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Postby caruso_stalker217 on Sat Mar 09, 2013 2:43 am

I saw most of this the other day. I missed the first four DVD chapters, however the fuck much that is in movie-time. I thought I was going to grow a hipster neck beard watching this shit until Percy Jackson blacked out and became the Fist-Hitter. But since the movie isn't called PERKS OF BEING A FIST-HITTER I figured there wouldn't be any more fist-hitting. And I was right.

By the time the end rolled around, though, I thought what I'd seen was decent. I was really hoping Percy would get in that ass and I was right about that too. And maybe there was some heart, even if it was fake movie-heart. A load of bullshit, you might say.

Maybe I will go back and watch the whole thing some day. Emma Watson did a pretty decent American accent. That kid from KEVIN, WHO LIVES AT HOME seems like a pretty good actor. Maybe I will watch one of those movies where he plays a creepy weirdo.
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Re: What have you been watching? (DVD or Films on TV)

Postby BuckyO'harre on Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:27 pm

TheBaxter wrote:i saw Perks of Being a Wallflower a while back, but i guess i never got around to commenting on it.

i really really really liked the film... til the end. the ending kinda ruins it for me. without spoiling it, i'd just say it seemed to come out of nowhere and felt very tacked on. if you're going to do a story about child sexual abuse i think you need to earn it a little better. it's not really a subject you can just append to the end of a coming-of-age teen film and do justice to it. i'm sure if i rewatched it there would be hints and clues toward what happened, but the way it came about in the film just didn't feel right.

it was very frustrating because up until that point i could identify a lot with the main character who is kind of finding his way through HS, trying to figure out where he fits in, the group dynamics, the music, everything, it really worked wonderfully. there's a universality to the characters, not in the specific things that happen or who they are, but just that general feeling. the ending destroyed that universality by making it about such a specific topic. i'm sure if i had experienced sexual abuse myself i would have identified with the character even more, but that's the point: since i didn't have that specific experience, that identification i had been feeling throughout the film ended entirely. it goes from being universal such that many people can identify with the experiences in the film, to being very specific so that only a specific group can feel that identification. and that's fine if that's the film you're making, but you can't have it both ways. if you want to have a film that is universal or you want to have a film that is very personal and deeply felt or identified with by only a few, it's the filmmakers choice, but you can't have 90% of one and then suddenly become the other for the last 10%. i know this is based on a book, maybe the book handles the topic better. i could imagine a way a film could broach that topic without losing that feeling of universality, but the film just fails at it.



I don't think it's fair to say that the ending makes the film about sexual abuse. The particular type of trauma only affects the timing of his breakdown, not the themes of the film entirely. I thinks it's more about the dangers of isolation and repression; the specific trigger doesn't matter so much. Things could have played out pretty much the same even if he had only repressed the feelings of guilt over his aunt's death, and there had been no abuse. Let's also not forget the suicide of his friend which adds abandonment issues to the mix.


TheBaxter wrote:though i do have a hard time buying that these kids didn't know the name of the "tunnel song" or who sang it. especially kids who are musically hip enough to be into the smiths


From an interview with the author-
That’s the bone I wanted to pick, because I can’t believe the kids had never heard of “Heroes” until it came on the radio, and then still couldn't find the record or figure out for months who sang it. It’s one of David Bowie’s most famous songs!

[Laughs] You and John Malkovich and Jim Powers [both producers on the film] could all gang up on me and say, “We don’t believe it,” and I will put my hand on a Bible and say, “In the early 90s, David Bowie was ‘Let’s Dance’ to me. He was that guy.” The whole 70s Bowie, because I was more into grunge, I came late to him. Listen, if you say to me, “The kids not knowing ‘Heroes,’ it’s not realistic,” I will cop to it! Anyone who has a bone to pick, I can’t argue. But I swear to god, it was real!


caruso_stalker217 wrote:That kid from KEVIN, WHO LIVES AT HOME seems like a pretty good actor. Maybe I will watch one of those movies where he plays a creepy weirdo.


I'd watch 'Afterschool' first and then 'We Need to Talk About Kevin', but if you only see one then go with WNTTAK. It has some of Tilda Swintons best work.
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Re: What have you been watching? (DVD or Films on TV)

Postby Spandau Belly on Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:16 pm

I will see WALLFLOWER eventually. Several zoners put it as one of their favourite movies of last year and despite it playing in cinemas where I live for a long time, I just never got around to it.
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Re: What have you been watching? (DVD or Films on TV)

Postby TheBaxter on Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:01 am

BuckyO'harre wrote:I don't think it's fair to say that the ending makes the film about sexual abuse. The particular type of trauma only affects the timing of his breakdown, not the themes of the film entirely. I thinks it's more about the dangers of isolation and repression; the specific trigger doesn't matter so much. Things could have played out pretty much the same even if he had only repressed the feelings of guilt over his aunt's death, and there had been no abuse. Let's also not forget the suicide of his friend which adds abandonment issues to the mix.


that's actually a big part of my problem with it though. the film is NOT a film about sexual abuse. if the film HAD been about that, then that would have been fine. but just tacking it on to the end of a film that otherwise has nothing to do with sexual abuse pulled me out of it. i don't think you can use sexual abuse as a casual plot point like that, and that's a big part of where my problem with it lay.
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Re: What have you been watching? (DVD or Films on TV)

Postby BuckyO'harre on Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:32 pm

TheBaxter wrote:that's actually a big part of my problem with it though. the film is NOT a film about sexual abuse. if the film HAD been about that, then that would have been fine. but just tacking it on to the end of a film that otherwise has nothing to do with sexual abuse pulled me out of it. i don't think you can use sexual abuse as a casual plot point like that, and that's a big part of where my problem with it lay.



To me, having it out in the open would force a different story structure and make for a more conventional and boring film. Even if the subject matter is rarely tackled it would still play out like many films about drug addiction or traumatic loss. You know the problem, see the protagonist struggle, they eventually fail or overcome.This film is doing something different. The nature of the film itself is repressed. Charlie is capable of progress, but it won't last until he deals with the real source of his trouble which eventually comes out. I can see why you think the reveal is a sucker punch, but in my mind that's what makes it work. And while you could manage without it, the more I mull it over the more I think sexual abuse was the most fitting way to go. I don't think it does any disservice to victims or makes light of the problem in any way.


I'd like to hear some more opinions on this.
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