Lady Sheridan wrote:I can't really say I had much of an issue with them either. It's just nice to have the choice and to watch it the way I remember it rather than how Lucas wants me to remember it!
It's been awhile since I saw either version, it's been a nice trip. I forgot how much fun this trilogy was.
But One Ring still rules them all.
Lady Sheridan wrote:What is added in TESB? I can't remember. I watched it thinking "Oh wow, this one is practically pure!"
See what has happened? George Lucas altered my memories. I can't let him win!!
wonkabar wrote:Be sure to get 'em at Wal-Mart....for the same price they each come with a the comic adaptation of the film. And not just some cheezy little booklet, but an actual DH graphic novel of the original Marvel books. At $19.99 I couldn't resist that deal. Plus I'm kinda stoked with the widescreen packages are gold instead of that silver that didn't match up with my PT-DVDs....I went ahead and put the old ones back in the box and put it away. Now my SW-collection looks nifty on my DVD-shelf....and I have all three graphic novels....
I did the right thing by buying these....yeah, I did the right thing....I'm sure I did the right thing...
WONKABAR on AICN-main wrote:The 1993 transfer is in some ways BETTER
Seriously, I just compared the two versions of ANH and the "old" one actually looks not only suprisingly good, but in some cases it is superior to the 2004 clean-up IMO. I'm telling you, while the '04 version is great in many ways it's just too damn DARK. Maybe it's different on a higher def-TV, but I swear you can't see a fucking thing in the cantina sequence, in fact, Greedo's face is barely visible. Same goes for the Imperial-meeting scene. The blackness is just overwhelming. On the '93 it's not a problem. Despite the scratches and artifacts and what-not it's still pretty crisp and "new-looking" and I frankly prefer it. Empire on the other hand, definitely looks better, and Jedi...again, despite the scratchies, the '93 doesn't so much look bad compared to the '04, it just looks different. In some spots it has a softness I like better. So, I'm glad I picked these up (plus I grabbed them from Wal-Mart and got the cool graphic-novels), though I would have liked to have had it anamorphic for my someday-TV, if any future "clean-up" of the un-altered SW involves the same kind of darkening of blacks that I've noticed in the '04, then I'll be all the more glad I have these. Anyway, check out the two Greedo scenes on the DVDs if you have them and tell me I'm not crazy. You can barely even see him shooting first.
monorail77 wrote:Dam,n dueced damn. I went to my local Canadian Wal-mart and, sure enough, no graphic novels included.
I don't suppose some kind hearted Zoner would want to facilitate picking these up and shipping them to me in Canada? I'd pay up front! I have a job and everything!!
Peven wrote:monorail77 wrote:Dam,n dueced damn. I went to my local Canadian Wal-mart and, sure enough, no graphic novels included.
I don't suppose some kind hearted Zoner would want to facilitate picking these up and shipping them to me in Canada? I'd pay up front! I have a job and everything!!
i'll be glad to help out, Monorail. just send me a pm and we can work out the details.
monorail77 wrote:Peven wrote:mo norail77 wrote:Dam,n dueced damn. I went to my local Canadian Wal-mart and, sure enough, no graphic novels included.
I don't suppose some kind hearted Zoner would want to facilitate picking these up and shipping them to me in Canada? I'd pay up front! I have a job and everything!!
i'll be glad to help out, Monorail. just send me a pm and we can work out the details.
Peven!! You rock, my man. Very generous. And I may take you up on it.
But since I wrote that plea, I've had a brilliant idea: my folks will soon be travelling to the U.S. on their annual snowbird vacation. I'm going to ask them to pick up the Wal-Mart versions for me. This has the advantage of them paying for the movies, and they likely won't ask me to refund them (mwahahahaha).
But, if they refuse or if there's some glitch, I'll definitely be sending you that PM. Thanks for being a sport.
I've been thinking of how this would work. Out of curiosity, and for potential future reference, do you have any ideas? Could I forward money to some internet account of yours, like paypal or something? Or would I send you a cheque? I'm loathe to give out my credit card number, not that I don't trust you, but just in case, y'know?
I'm curious if anyone has suggestions about the logistics of someone buying stuff for me in the U.S. and shipping it to Canada. The goal would be for me to pay up front, but not overpay, because refunds would be a drag to handle, but enough that the buyer wouldn't be out of pocket any substantial amount for any length of time. Any ideas?
monorail77 wrote:Extremely generous, Peven. You're a stand up fellow of excellent quality, sir.
In the unlikely event there's some Canadian exclusive of some description, I extend the same offer.
Star Wars 30th Anniversary DVD Set Confirmation?
We've just received a translation of the recent LEGO booklet posted here in this story.
"STAR WARS celebrates it 30th anniversary !
* The LEGO Star Wars line still sells well - even in years without a movie. In 2005, the LEGO Star Wars assortment was about 70 % of the total revenue of all Star Wars licences in central europe. In April 2006, LEGO Star Wars was about 7,8% of the total revenue of LEGO Central Europe
* Because of the 30th anniversary of the Star Wars Saga, there will be a balanced assortment of NEW LEGO Star Wars items and best seller with new designs, in 2007. All sets include unique parts and figures.
* The STAR WARS DVD set, that will be released at the 30th anniversary, will be responsible for an increased sale of the new sets. There will be a anniversary logo on all LEGO Star Wars sets.
* All LEGO Star Wars set will be very detailed - with many authentic features, heros and bad guys from the movies.
* Different price points for all conditions"
Notice the bit about the 30th Anniversary DVD set? Yeah me too
sonnyboo wrote:I'll re-say this a few dozen more times...
There is no original negative to "re-scan". In 1997 when they made the special editions, the old negative had deteriorated and they replaced it with the Special Edition version. Whole elements of negative were missing (like the opticals for the wipes of the Sandcrawler & stormtroopers in the desert).
If you all want to debate the merits of George Lucas not choosing to do a restoration of the old edits, you're only 9 years too late and it kinda can't be undone now.
Remember it's just a movie, nothing more.
sonnyboo wrote:I'll re-say this a few dozen more times...
There is no original negative to "re-scan". In 1997 when they made the special editions, the old negative had deteriorated and they replaced it with the Special Edition version. Whole elements of negative were missing (like the opticals for the wipes of the Sandcrawler & stormtroopers in the desert).
If you all want to debate the merits of George Lucas not choosing to do a restoration of the old edits, you're only 9 years too late and it kinda can't be undone now.
Remember it's just a movie, nothing more.
godzillasushi wrote:I still just watch my original VHS box-set. Its to expensive to keep buying stuff like DVD's.
monorail77 wrote:But the transfer is just fucking awful. There's a weird signal howl sort of shimmer to some of the brights and the image is grainy and it shakes. And the black bars are HUGE on the top and bottom of the screen. Much bigger, it seemed to me, than other non-anamorphic widesceen DVD releases I own from the same era of film.
Fievel wrote:I'm so glad I bought the untouched original laser disc transfer of the OT on a bootleg DVD back in 2000, long before Lucas ever realistically hinted he might release them on legit DVDs. Not only is the transfer decent, but the bonus features, ON A BOOTLEG, are sweet!!!
Tubbs Tattsyrup wrote:Fievel wrote:I'm so glad I bought the untouched original laser disc transfer of the OT on a bootleg DVD back in 2000, long before Lucas ever realistically hinted he might release them on legit DVDs. Not only is the transfer decent, but the bonus features, ON A BOOTLEG, are sweet!!!
I thought the "original" OT DVDs were taken from the LaserDisc transfer anyway? Or was the bootleg transferred by someone else?
Kim Masters wrote:Disney's $4 billion deal for Lucasfilm does not include the right to release the original 'Star Wars' -- unless a new deal can be forged with Fox.
It appears that George Lucas did not give the studio that has distributed the Star Wars films since 1977 a shot at buying his company. But Fox isn't out of the Star Wars game just yet -- which raises the question: What are the prospects for the ultimate Star Wars box set?
Disney will own and release future films in the Star Wars series (as for potential Indiana Jones films, Paramount retains some distribution rights and future movies will only be made if both Paramount and Disney agree on terms). Lucas apparently has sketched out plans for three more Star Wars films -- he always envisioned making nine -- with Episode Seven set for release in 2015. But Fox owns distribution rights to the original Star Wars, No. 4 in the series, in perpetuity in all media worldwide. And as for the five subsequent movies, Fox has theatrical, nontheatrical and home video rights worldwide through May 2020.
While the rights on those five films eventually will revert to Disney, that "in perpetuity" pact for the first film appears to be an obstacle to Disney releasing a complete set -- unless a deal can be made.
According to a longtime Lucas associate, the filmmaker always wanted to keep his films together. “Now it seems like he can't have a total package of the story because one of the movies is with Fox, unless they can make some kind of deal [with Disney] to release nine of them,” this person says.
Disney and Fox did not respond to a request for comment. But a Fox insider tells THR that as for Disney's blockbuster deal to purchase Lucas' company, "we certainly would have liked a crack at it but i get the play."
Fox plans to proceed with plans to re-release the supposedly much-improved 3D versions of Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith in fall 2013. The re-release of Episode I -- The Phantom Menace turned in only a fair performance earlier this year, grossing a total of $102.8 million worldwide. Fox receives only a relatively low - six percent - distribution fee to release those films.
Lucas’s decision to sell his company to Disney--not Fox--makes sense: Disney has the theme parks, merchandising and licensing operations to take full advantage of the Star Wars and Indiana Jones characters. "Disney is the perfect place,” says the Lucas associate. ”At Fox they just make movies. Fox doesn't have theme parks and huge brands. This is a good fit."
So despite Lucas’s wish to keep the films together, the allure of the Disney parks in particular may have been too strong. The filmmaker has long been known for demanding exceptionally tough deals. But one of the few instances in which he felt he wasn’t tough enough involved a deal in the late 1980s with Disney to make characters from Star Wars and Indiana Jones the first non-Disney properties at the parks-- for $1 million a year, in perpetuity.
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