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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 6:50 pm
by Fried Gold
It's a great U-boat-style sequence.

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 6:52 pm
by doglips
'Drop 10,000 metres', Kirk is just playing 3-D chess with Khan. Brilliance. Remember that game?

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 6:57 pm
by Fried Gold
It's great the way Khan never removes the glove of his right hand during the film.


Audiences at the time had forgotten about Spock's death rumours, because of his "death" at the beginning.

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 6:57 pm
by Brocktune
you know what would be funny? if after this melee between the enterprise and the reliant, when we see khan clawing his way up off the floor to activate the genesis device, we saw that the enterprises attack on the reliant had cause his phony plastic pectoral muscles to melt to his chest. like he wasnt just trying to convince us, the audience, of his facetious virility, but trying to fool his own crew as well.

i dont know, maybe thats only funny to me. :?

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 6:59 pm
by Brocktune
hahahaha

McCoy wrote:are you out of your vulcan mind?!


best real life word filter EVAR!

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 7:00 pm
by Brocktune
ok, i swear i just heard mccoy say "goddamnit spock, get the hell out of there", and then scotty yelled "you bastard!" as spock pulled that thing off of the other thing.

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 7:01 pm
by Fried Gold
Cut to shot empty science chair.......oh crap...

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 7:02 pm
by Brocktune
this is probably a question for balmy, but exactly wtf is a nebula, and would an explosion of this caliber really be able to eradicate the nebula entirely? and if so, would the destruction of the nebula have other repercussions throughout its neighboring space?

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 7:03 pm
by doglips
So I never understood why the Genesis bomb effected the planet, when it exploded in the nebula.

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 7:04 pm
by Brocktune
im sure that spock and kirk would totally have kissed in this scene, were spock not so heavily irradiated.

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 7:05 pm
by Brocktune
look on the bright side of this whole death thing, spock. in the next flick, YOU are the one that gets into saavik's pants. way to one up kirk, eh?

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 7:06 pm
by doglips
Surely the Vulcan Harpsicord would have been more apt, Scotty?

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 7:07 pm
by Cpt Kirks 2pay
Fried Gold wrote:It's great the way Khan never removes the glove of his right hand during the film.


Audiences at the time had forgotten about Spock's death rumours, because of his "death" at the beginning.


Clever.

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 7:07 pm
by Brocktune
yikes.

saavik going a little heavy on the "Lily Munster" makeup there.

shes not quite as attractive looking so cadaverous.

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 7:08 pm
by doglips
As the film has progressed, so Kirk's hair has become more pube-like. Like father, like son.

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 7:08 pm
by Fried Gold
The physics behind it are about as soild as the planet in the next movie........just go with "the device was planned to be used on a dead planet, but it got used on a big area of gas instead" idea.

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 7:09 pm
by Brocktune
man, has anyone ever heard someone play the pipes? and i mean while you are in the room with the piper while he is playing? im sure you uk'ers probably have.
man, those fuckers are loud! they are like second only to drums in terms of loudness of natural (un-amplified) volume.

its just too bad benny goodman played the clarinet. can you imagine "song of india" or "sing, sing, sing" on the pipes?

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 7:10 pm
by doglips
Brocktune wrote:yikes.

saavik going a little heavy on the "Lily Munster" makeup there.

shes not quite as attractive looking so cadaverous.


She sowed the hairstyling seeds of the 'Troi' there.

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 7:10 pm
by Fried Gold
Kirk is a lot more human, and down to earth in this film. Especially by the end of it. He has become more of a broken man, even if it ends on his note of hope.

He's been beaten, people have died, Spock's gone. He's become a fragile little kitten.

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 7:10 pm
by Brocktune
heh, that little white oval on david's uniform just above his left nipple should have "David" embroidered in Unocal 76 style cursive in it.

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 7:11 pm
by doglips
Fried Gold wrote:The physics behind it are about as soild as the planet in the next movie........just go with "the device was planned to be used on a dead planet, but it got used on a big area of gas instead" idea.


Exactly, this film is actually utter bollocks.

The rose tinted spectacles of geekdom strike again.

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 7:12 pm
by Brocktune
christ.
dickens has got to be spinning in his grave. reeling from shatner's delivery of his material.

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 7:12 pm
by Cpt Kirks 2pay
Fried Gold wrote:The physics behind it are about as soild as the planet in the next movie........just go with "the device was planned to be used on a dead planet, but it got used on a big area of gas instead" idea.


That's why the planet collapsed. Exploding it with a piece of machinery and not much more. I think the reason why the next film tried to explain this failure is flawed itself for this reason.

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 7:14 pm
by Brocktune
it would have been much funnier if spock's rotting carcass had been thrown from the torpedo tube upon impact on genesis's surface. maybe it could have landed in a tree or something.

would've been a much funnier capper to this flick.
although i'm fairly certain that that's NOT what they were going for.

*sigh* in a perfect world....

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 7:16 pm
by Brocktune
welp, time to go back and read this shit. we have yet to make it to 4 pages on one of these things yet.

maybe for the next zoner commentary track we should do Fassbinder's "Berlin Alexanderplatz".

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 7:19 pm
by doglips
Brocktune wrote:welp, time to go back and read this shit. we have yet to make it to 4 pages on one of these things yet.

maybe for the next zoner commentary track we should do Fassbinder's "Berlin Alexanderplatz".


Or 2001.

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 7:22 pm
by doglips
Brocktune wrote:y'know im surprised that when spock told mr. sulu that he could "indulge himself" that sulu didnt instantly spring up from his seat, rip his shirt from his chest, grab one of those hot, well hung, young recruits by the hand, and retire to his cabin for the week.


IPAMPILASH! You're killing me here, as usual.

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 7:36 pm
by Flumm
I <3 The Zoner Real Time Commentary threads.

:oops:

Sigh, you guys have it down... what ever it is, exactly.

I would be nervous of participating now, I think. You've set the bar too high, I would be worried of vulcaning up your mojo.

In it's own way, it's a perfect slice of zone/geek culture, I think, too.

If this was Victorian England I would be "nonchantly" inviting you into joining my travelling circus as my star attraction.


Flumm: Behold!!!


*pulls back curtain*


Flumm:...GEEKS!


Crowd: ...oooooh!!!

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 7:38 pm
by Brocktune
are you crazy, flumm?

if we could get at least a couple more voices in here, these things would be even better. and that includes you, ro-buddy.

i used to think coordinating a schedule with a band was tough. but then came the zoner real time commentaries.

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 7:40 pm
by doglips
This is pretty good to read back. You can follow the film easily, illustrating the paper thin plot perfectly.

EDIT - yeah, you gotta have a go next time Flumm, we need more input!( no pun intended )

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 7:41 pm
by Brocktune
yeah, you know if anyone questions the superiority of TMP over WOK, they need look no further than these commentary threads.

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 7:48 pm
by doglips
Brocktune wrote:yeah, you know if anyone questions the superiority of TMP over WOK, they need look no further than these commentary threads.


HAha, they'll be handing out printed copies in mental wards sometime soon.