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Watchmen - triple dip extravaganza!

PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 2:21 pm
by sonnyboo
Okay. So I liked the theatrical cut a lot, but knowing out of the gate that a director's cut was en route, I did not buy it on Blu Ray. A friend bought the director's cut, so I borrowed it. Thought this was WAY better than the theatrical cut, which I liked a lot anyways.

Have not yet seen the ULTIMATE CUT, but I have rented and seen the TALES OF THE BLACK FREIGHTER blu ray. I can't imagine this cutting into the movie that well.

Who here has seen the WATCHMEN ULTIMATE CUT? What did you think of it? Is there more live action added to the movie than the Director's Cut?

Re: Watchmen - triple dip extravaganza!

PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 3:59 pm
by Nachokoolaid
I saw it. I enjoyed it, and I thought the Black Freighter stuff was cut in okay. It made the deaths of the newspaper stand guy and the black kid a little more meaningful because they had larger roles.

And I'm pretty sure this is getting moved the the Watchmen thread where it belongs.

Re: Watchmen - triple dip extravaganza!

PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 4:59 pm
by Fried Gold
It felt more complete with the additional material. However I felt it somewhat pointless - if you're going to stick that closely to the comic, one might as well just go and read the comic.

Re: Watchmen - triple dip extravaganza!

PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 1:57 pm
by sonnyboo
So the only live action footage added to the ULTIMATE CUT was of the kid reading Black Freighter and the newspaper stand guy?

Re: Watchmen - triple dip extravaganza!

PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 10:53 pm
by Brocktune
yes. at least, that i remember. even streched out to 4+ hours, i actually enjoy the ultimate cut even more than i enjoyed the directors cut, which i enjoyed even more than the theatrical cut, which i also enjoyed. although the inclusion of the black freighter shit does feel a little forced, and doesnt exactly integrate completely seamlessly into the picture. well not at first anyway. it gets less jarring as the movie progresses. in addition, the live action segues into the animated sequences feel a little stiff as well. but its not enough to sideline ones enjoyment. i mean shit, if you are sitting down to watch the very lengthy ultimate cut, chances are you are already a fan anyways, and arent likely to change your mind much on the movie no matter how cheeseball they may seem. but when that kid and newspaper kid died, thanks to the new footage, their deaths went from hilarious, to gut-wrenching. ;)

Re: Watchmen - triple dip extravaganza!

PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:34 pm
by Nachokoolaid
I never saw the "director's cut," but I jumped straight from the theatrical to the Ultimate, so I don't know if it's in the director's or not, but my favorite scene in the entire film now is when Hollis Mason fights the punks. That was such a badass scene, and I think it was one where Snyder actually improved over the comic. So that's my favorite addition.

Re: Watchmen - triple dip extravaganza!

PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:28 pm
by MacCready
I wish that scene HAD been in the theatrical release - it was indeed very, very cool.

Re: Watchmen - triple dip extravaganza!

PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:26 am
by Fried Gold
sonnyboo wrote:So the only live action footage added to the ULTIMATE CUT was of the kid reading Black Freighter and the newspaper stand guy?

Yep.

Ultimate Cut = Director's Cut + Black Freighter bits + newsagent transitions

Re: Watchmen - triple dip extravaganza!

PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:01 am
by MacCready
I don't need the Black Freighter stuff - especially since it loses all relevance to the climax to the end of the story as Snyder shot it. No weird space vagina monster? What's the point of the Black Freighter then? The story ends up having nothing to do with the rest of the film, and only serves to break up the narrative flow.

Re: Watchmen - triple dip extravaganza!

PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 9:59 pm
by DennisMM
I got the Ultimate Cut for Christmas. Otherwise I would have passed. Once again, the quality has improved over the previous version, but it's still not a particularly good movie.