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Postby silentbobafett on Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:46 am

I love a good love story....a nd for me it made sense with those characters! I guess its horses for courses... but the show worked in every single fucking way for me! :-)

Like Fawst - I miss it :-( :-)
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Postby silentbobafett on Mon Apr 30, 2007 6:47 am

MAY BABY! MAAAAAY! :-)
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Postby silentbobafett on Fri May 11, 2007 3:01 am

I don't know the fate of 'Studio 60.' I think we'll probably find out in June," Peet responded to the same question despite the reports of it definitely being cancelled, and she mused on why the show might not have taken off the way some people hoped. "I don't know why the show didn't work. It was definitely very ambitious, but there's a part of me that wonders if right when we came out of the gates, there was such a huge buzz and push about it. I wonder if it had been an unknown writer/creator instead of Aaron Sorkin if we would have a little bit more time for the show to find its tone and its focus. Is it a comedy? Are we doing sketches? Are we doing the behind-the-scenes executive thing? What are we doing? I think because we were under a microscope from the moment we arrived, I think it was very difficult for the creators to feel free to follow the strengths of the show and see it through." She added that they actually did shoot the full season of 22 episodes for the season with the show returning for sweeps.

Peet's done a lot more movies than television in her career, but she finds television just as satisfying. "I think that it depends on the writing. If Aaron Sorkin is offering to write for you potentially for six years, that's a really hard offer to give up. I'm married to a writer so I lean towards that. You can't be good unless you have good writing."
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Postby Leckomaniac on Fri May 11, 2007 3:04 am

GIVE ME MY STUDIO 60 DAMN IT!

GIVE IT!
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Postby RaulMonkey on Fri May 11, 2007 6:20 pm

silentbobafett wrote:
I don't know the fate of 'Studio 60.' I think we'll probably find out in June," Peet responded to the same question despite the reports of it definitely being cancelled, and she mused on why the show might not have taken off the way some people hoped. "I don't know why the show didn't work. It was definitely very ambitious, but there's a part of me that wonders if right when we came out of the gates, there was such a huge buzz and push about it. I wonder if it had been an unknown writer/creator instead of Aaron Sorkin if we would have a little bit more time for the show to find its tone and its focus. Is it a comedy? Are we doing sketches? Are we doing the behind-the-scenes executive thing? What are we doing? I think because we were under a microscope from the moment we arrived, I think it was very difficult for the creators to feel free to follow the strengths of the show and see it through." She added that they actually did shoot the full season of 22 episodes for the season with the show returning for sweeps.

Peet's done a lot more movies than television in her career, but she finds television just as satisfying. "I think that it depends on the writing. If Aaron Sorkin is offering to write for you potentially for six years, that's a really hard offer to give up. I'm married to a writer so I lean towards that. You can't be good unless you have good writing."


Dude, you should include links to articles that you quote from, or at the very least provide a source. It helps to authenticate the information and encourage one to read it. This could have been written by anyone.
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Postby silentbobafett on Mon May 14, 2007 4:19 am

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'Strip' Stripped from NBC's Schedule


 Marking the end of one of the greatest debacles in its history, NBC is expected to disclose during its upfront season presentation on Monday that it has canceled Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip, the centerpiece of its presentation one year ago and a show that had reportedly cost it an enormous $3 million per episode -- or nearly $100 million over the past year (when marketing and other costs are reckoned). The series, from The West Wing's Aaron Sorkin, which amounted to a backstage look at a kind of Saturday Night Live show, had struggled in the ratings almost from the outset and had received mixed notices from critics. Nevertheless, until recently, NBC executives had voiced their support for it. NBC President Kevin Reilly insisted that he was a fan of the show and that it deserved time to find a larger audience. Meanwhile, the network has reportedly ordered five new hours of dramatic shows for next season, including a revival of the '70s series, The Bionic Woman. Further details are expected to be provided on Monday.
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Postby Willowwind on Mon May 14, 2007 4:43 am

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They tank this and give us the Bionic Woman???? Morons!!!

And they wonder why viewership is in the toilet.
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Postby silentbobafett on Mon May 14, 2007 5:11 am

KNowing the TV Nation, Bianoic Woman will do twice as good as Studio 60, hell 4 times as good wouldn't be hard!

Its just a fucking crying shame, thats all! How did West Wing do so well?

I always felt that Sorkin would be better off on HBO, why doesn't he go there?
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Postby Willowwind on Mon May 14, 2007 5:31 am

Lowest common denominator TV. Pretty soon no one with even half a brain will be watching.
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Postby Fievel on Mon May 14, 2007 10:58 am

This does suck, although I don't think anyone could say it was unexpected. I hope the ratings for the final episodes starting later this month (?) shatter records. I know they won't, but it would be a nice final "fuck you" to NBC.
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Postby so sorry on Mon May 14, 2007 11:13 am

silentbobafett wrote:KNowing the TV Nation, Bianoic Woman will do twice as good as Studio 60, hell 4 times as good wouldn't be hard!

Its just a fucking crying shame, thats all! How did West Wing do so well?

I always felt that Sorkin would be better off on HBO, why doesn't he go there?





C'mon, why trash the Bionic Woman because its replacing a show you like?

Studio 60 got bad ratings, right? why is that so hard to come to grips with? Its not like what Fox did with DRIVE (2 episodes before they yanked it). Studio 60 got a shot at finding an audience AND IT FAILED! At a reported 3 mil an episode (where the hell did that 3 million each go, by the way?) there's no way the could keep it going on the hopes that it'll get better.
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Postby so sorry on Mon May 14, 2007 11:14 am

Willowwind wrote:Lowest common denominator TV. Pretty soon no one with even half a brain will be watching.


but I'm sure internet forums will be brimming with the super-intelligent people complaining about the half-brain people not watching the "right" shows on TV.
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Postby Fievel on Mon May 14, 2007 11:19 am

so sorry wrote:Studio 60 got a shot at finding an audience AND IT FAILED!


No, it was given one time slot. If they truly wanted to try and find it an audience, they would have moved it around some. I think it would have done much better in either a 9pm slot or a different day (the E.R. slot would have been good).
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Postby so sorry on Mon May 14, 2007 11:28 am

Fievel wrote:
so sorry wrote:Studio 60 got a shot at finding an audience AND IT FAILED!


No, it was given one time slot. If they truly wanted to try and find it an audience, they would have moved it around some. I think it would have done much better in either a 9pm slot or a different day (the E.R. slot would have been good).


Having Heroes as the lead in to this show probably didn't help either...
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Postby Fievel on Mon May 14, 2007 12:15 pm

so sorry wrote:Having Heroes as the lead in to this show probably didn't help either...


Two different target audiences.
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Postby so sorry on Mon May 14, 2007 12:23 pm

Fievel wrote:
so sorry wrote:Having Heroes as the lead in to this show probably didn't help either...


Two different target audiences.


two COMPLETELY different target audiences!
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Postby The Ginger Man on Mon May 14, 2007 12:49 pm

I'm glad to see Studio 60 go. I watched every week, waiting for something...anything....to happen. Instead, Sorkin just continued pushing out watered-down versions of his greatest hits.

This wasn't Sports Night...a comical look at a struggling 3rd rate sports broadcast. Or West Wing...an idealized, behind-the-scenes look at the Prez and his staff. Studio 60 was meant to follow the same vein.

Instead, the namesake studio and its numerous comedians were left undeveloped in favor of cliche "will they/won't they" relationship plots. We were continually force fed "straw-men arguments" on Christianity. And ultimately, the world was unbelievable. How is a live sketch comedy show made? One man sits in his office doing nothing until a brilliant idea comes to him. Right.

Good riddance, I say. Maybe this will force Sorkin to try harder next time.
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Postby Nordling on Mon May 14, 2007 2:28 pm

I'm glad it's gone too, and my wife is pissed at me for saying that.

Here's the thing... when they got all self-righteous and sanctimonious on WEST WING, you bought it, because these people were supposed to be self-righteous and sanctimonious. They were the leaders of the free world. They acted elitist because they WERE elite.

But in STUDIO 60 we have the same characteristics in Hollywood types... and it just made them out to be assholes.

Second, these people don't talk like real people. Real people don't finish each other's sentences like that, every damn day. The run-n-gun style of WEST WING, again, it worked because these people are expected to be able to think on their feet. On STUDIO 60, I couldn't believe it.

And the worst thing... for people who were supposed to be the funniest people in show business, the jokes were awfully flat. They really needed to take a page out of 30 ROCK's book.

I think Sorkin needs to stay away from TV for a while and write films, where he'll be constrained and not allowed to go off on stupid tangents.
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Postby Willowwind on Mon May 14, 2007 2:35 pm

Okay, crappy ratings. Explain to me then how Friday Night Lights gets picked up.
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Postby Lord Voldemoo on Mon May 14, 2007 2:38 pm

Willowwind wrote:Okay, crappy ratings. Explain to me then how Friday Night Lights gets picked up.


Actually, unless you're trying to draw a comparison between the two, let's talk about that over here.
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Postby TonyWilson on Mon May 14, 2007 2:40 pm

Well what I saw of it, I liked. I caught everything upto the first of the two parter with John Goodman.
The thing that really shocks me is that it cost 3mil an ep. That's just stupid. It should be a fairly cheap show to produce; very few locations, one of which is a TV studio - probably the easiest and cheapest thing to recreate in a TV studio, let's be honest. No special FX at all. It didn't have a huge cast and it's main appeal was the dialogue which again costs very little once it's actually been written. Ok, sure big money for the major cast members and Sorkin, but come on, if Lost can do "Pilot" for 2 million then Studio 60 can do all thier regular eps for that, less preferably.
Hopefully the savings will bump Heroes budget up substantially and we can get some cool ass fight/power sequences on a bigger or more intense scale.
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Postby silentbobafett on Tue May 15, 2007 5:32 am

so sorry wrote:
silentbobafett wrote:KNowing the TV Nation, Bianoic Woman will do twice as good as Studio 60, hell 4 times as good wouldn't be hard!

Its just a fucking crying shame, thats all! How did West Wing do so well?

I always felt that Sorkin would be better off on HBO, why doesn't he go there?





C'mon, why trash the Bionic Woman because its replacing a show you like?

Studio 60 got bad ratings, right? why is that so hard to come to grips with? Its not like what Fox did with DRIVE (2 episodes before they yanked it). Studio 60 got a shot at finding an audience AND IT FAILED! At a reported 3 mil an episode (where the hell did that 3 million each go, by the way?) there's no way the could keep it going on the hopes that it'll get better.


Hey man, I'm sure Bionic Woman will be cool! I'm a fucking geek after alL! I'm not trashing Bionic Woman, but I think they are two very different shows. So I'd just like to see a trade off. Bionic Woman couldn't be more different.

My fave st uff on Studio 60 was all the studio head stuff, I liked the back and forth over the hotel and casino etc. Jack Rudolph was perhaps my fave character etc... I'd like to see more on that side of things.

I too agree that I can't see how on fucking earth if cost 3 mill an episode. I suspect it was wages though.

If it was cheaper, it might have had a fighting chance!

But thumbs up to NBC cos I think they did give it a chance, they could have tried different slots, but theys tuck with it as much as theyc ould!

:-) shame though :-)
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Postby Fievel on Mon May 21, 2007 10:18 pm

Studio 60 starts its final run this Thursday at 10pm.
I think it would have done a lot better in this timeslot.

Notice all of the commercials for it? Yeah, I didn't see any either.
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Postby Fievel on Tue May 29, 2007 1:08 am

Just got around to watching this past week's episode. I dug it. I dug it a lot. It was nice to have a show based on everyone BUT the main two characters (Matt & Danny). I had a feeling these last episodes would make me say this, but I dread the end of this more and more. It's just one of those shows that I enjoy to watch. Oh well, at least there's some more new episodes before it's all over.
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Postby Fried Gold on Wed May 30, 2007 12:47 pm

It's so much better than a lot of stuff which hasn't been cancelled.

I really hope it gets to continue somewhere else.
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Postby Willowwind on Sat Jun 02, 2007 9:49 pm

Okay, so the old NBC head is gone. Hope for Studio 60? I mean, really, the new guy is already talking to Trump for Dog's sake!
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Postby Fievel on Sun Jun 03, 2007 12:27 am

Willowwind wrote:Okay, so the old NBC head is gone. Hope for Studio 60? I mean, really, the new guy is already talking to Trump for Dog's sake!


I would highly doubt it.... but it would be awesome.
These two episodes they've shown since the hiatus... not the best thing on television, but SO MUCH BETTER than most of the crap out there.
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Postby Gheorghe Zamfir on Sat Jun 23, 2007 7:55 pm

I have a hard time pegging what it is about this shopw that doesn't work for me, it just doesn't. I love love love Sports Night and West Wing, but this just never clicked with me.

I think mostly I just don't buy into the reality of the characters. The two guys on the show I love, Busfield and Weber, I probably dig because they're really the only two actors who come across as the professionals they're playing. I don't really buy any of the comedians as comedians, the writers as writers, Amanda Peet as whatever it is she's supposed to be, etc. They're more like characters Sorkin wrote after which he then invented jobs for them to have a reason for them to be there.

And I doubt there would have ever been a time when a Holly Hunter impression would have been funny, but its especially not now, time to stop milking that cow.
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Postby Fievel on Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:07 am

And so it's over.

Thanks, NBC.
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Postby Lord Voldemoo on Fri Jun 29, 2007 2:29 am

damn.

Talk about a rollercoaster. Not the show, my feelings during its run.

Super excited, sure it will be genius.

Vaguely Disappointed.

slightly encouraged.

Vaguely Disappointed.

Learn it will be cancelled. Meh.

Last 3 eps. Pretty much blown away. It was rushed, obviously...relationships that should have matured over 3 seasons (Jordan and Danny, particularly) mature overnight, but the writing was good, there was so much going on, I began to finally, really care about the characters. Jack really grew on me...Tom really grew on me. Harriet bugged me less. The frenetic pacing was finally reminiscent of The West Wing.

And...it's over.

Damn.
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Re: Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip (SPOILERS!!!)

Postby Fried Gold on Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:19 pm

Channel 4 are showing repeats of Studio 60.

It's a real shame it got cancelled as it had such good quality. Way better than a lot of the dross on TV.
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Re: Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip (SPOILERS!!!)

Postby Leckomaniac on Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:22 pm

Fried Gold wrote:Channel 4 are showing repeats of Studio 60.

It's a real shame it got cancelled as it had such good quality. Way better than a lot of the dross on TV.


:P

Thanks for re-opening that wound.
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Re: Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip (SPOILERS!!!)

Postby Fried Gold on Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:46 am

Leckomaniac wrote:
Fried Gold wrote:Channel 4 are showing repeats of Studio 60.

It's a real shame it got cancelled as it had such good quality. Way better than a lot of the dross on TV.


:P

Thanks for re-opening that wound.

Sorry.

I think I'm going to have to buy the boxset now.
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Re: Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip (SPOILERS!!!)

Postby Ribbons on Mon Sep 06, 2010 4:09 am

I am so conflicted over how I feel about this show. The skits are almost never funny, the love story is constantly confusing and frustrating and the soapbox moralizing that often has nothing to do with the premise more than a little annoying. But at the same time there are so many brilliant character moments from one episode to the next, and every now and then a script comes along that knocks it out of the park. I'm a little more than halfway through the season now and it seems to have found its groove; whether that's in spite of or because it was cancelled, I'm not sure.
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Re: Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip (SPOILERS!!!)

Postby Peven on Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:38 am

Fried Gold wrote:
Leckomaniac wrote:
Fried Gold wrote:Channel 4 are showing repeats of Studio 60.

It's a real shame it got cancelled as it had such good quality. Way better than a lot of the dross on TV.


:P

Thanks for re-opening that wound.

Sorry.

I think I'm going to have to buy the boxset now.


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Re: Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip (SPOILERS!!!)

Postby Ribbons on Mon Sep 06, 2010 10:57 pm

so sorry wrote:At a reported 3 mil an episode (where the hell did that 3 million each go, by the way?) there's no way the could keep it going on the hopes that it'll get better.


There's this one scene (it's not exactly a "scene" but it's at least a couple of shots) in one of the most recent episodes I watched, "The Friday Night Slaughter," where it starts on a monitor in Matt Albie's (Matthew Perry) office, then pulls out to cover him pacing around, then wanders out into the hallway to show a larger version of what was on the monitor, then follows an assistant into the editing room and back out the other side, then goes down onto the floor where Danny Tripp (Bradley Whitford) is watching a bank of TVs, then back up into Matt's office through the windows. One of the more ambitious things I've seen on television, and it looked really cool. It reminded me of the opening of So I Married An Axe Murderer (which Thomas Schlamme also directed).

The episode itself was pretty good too, probably one of the best of the series.
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Re: Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip (SPOILERS!!!)

Postby Fievel on Tue Sep 07, 2010 1:45 am

I just re-read this entire thread. Man do I miss this show.
This show and Journeyman are still my two favorite shows that never panned out. Quality shows that just weren't handled well.
Thanks NBC. I'm surprised the assfaces there haven't tried to resurrect Manimal or The Highwayman yet.
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