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by **RogueScribner** on Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:33 pm

There was the big network move, plus all the work he had to do to get the musical episode off the ground. After OMWF he then went to develop Firefly. I think he gave everyone the broad strokes of the season in the beginning of the year and then left Marti Noxon to see it through. Maybe he figured Willow would be addicted to magic (though I think if she was addicted to anything, it was power), but his idea of that arc and the actual execution of it played out very differently.

We'll never know, but to my mind, Willow was on a certain path all through seasons 3 and 5 and then season 6 came along and messed everything up. I guess she was "redeemed" in season 7, but was it even worth going there? For half a season, Willow sat and did nothing (that could apply to both S6 and S7!) and then right at the end she puts on a song and dance and the season (series) is over.

Boy oh boy. Joss really dropped the ball when it came to Willow. Luckily, the damage was minimized for the most part, unlike with Cordelia. *sigh*

by **cc2kbob** on Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:54 pm

RogueScribner wrote:There was the big network move, plus all the work he had to do to get the musical episode off the ground. After OMWF he then went to develop Firefly. I think he gave everyone the broad strokes of the season in the beginning of the year and then left Marti Noxon to see it through. Maybe he figured Willow would be addicted to magic (though I think if she was addicted to anything, it was power), but his idea of that arc and the actual execution of it played out very differently.

We'll never know, but to my mind, Willow was on a certain path all through seasons 3 and 5 and then season 6 came along and messed everything up. I guess she was "redeemed" in season 7, but was it even worth going there? For half a season, Willow sat and did nothing (that could apply to both S6 and S7!) and then right at the end she puts on a song and dance and the season (series) is over.

Boy oh boy. Joss really dropped the ball when it came to Willow. Luckily, the damage was minimized for the most part, unlike with Cordelia. *sigh*

Well said, and this certainly clears up a lot for me. I always forget that Joss ran off to do Firefly toward the end of Buffy.

Oh, and for no apparent reason, here's a history of my exposure to Joss:

1. Roomie shows me Firefly on DVD. During the pilot episode, I nod approvingly when there's no sound in space. Next thing I know, Objects in Space is ending and I'm in tears.

2. I go on to simultaneously inhale Buffy and The X-Files on DVD, and follow that up with Angel as Buffy runs down.

3. I do all this with my roomie in the span of about four months.

4. No, I'm not writing this on my BlackBerry in an insane asylum.

So I always forget Joss' work history.

And I agree: I dug how the Powers that Be promoted Cordy to demigod -- it felt like another signature Whedon move -- but I wasn't overwhelmed with the ol' "holy shit she was a ghost the whole time" cameo she got in season five.

by **RogueScribner** on Fri Mar 24, 2006 8:38 am

Want to read an inaccurate and biased article regarding the post-Buffy careers of the main cast?

CLICK HERE

by **Pudie** on Sun Mar 26, 2006 5:06 pm

I just got finished watching the Body. What an absolutly fucking BRILLIANT hour of TV.

by **Neo Zeed** on Sun Mar 26, 2006 5:36 pm

RogueScribner wrote:Want to read an inaccurate and biased article regarding the post-Buffy careers of the main cast?

CLICK HERE

Yeah it was pretty biased..

Borenaz is doing well for himself in Bones..it got renewed. I personally don't watch it, but it's an alright show from what I've seen

Grudge did suck though, but Gellar's only "cameo-ing" in the Grudge 2. Amber Tamblyn is the star..
We'll see if Southland Tales, Alice, and The Air I Breathe are any good. But these projects sound interesting so far.

Hannigan: This is where I might agree with the writer. That CBS sitcom isn't very funny and that Date Movie looked excruciating..She should do some indies stat!

Nicholas: Yeah that Kitchen Confidential show was real stinky..

Head: He's did ok with the Little Britian stuff. No problems really.

None of these projects are probably ever going to be bigger than Buffy or Angel..IMO. But it's not anyone expects them be, nor do I feel obligated to watch them because a Buffy star is in them.

However, a Buffy/Angel Movie would rock harder than all their projects. FACT! Let's get the ball rolling Joss.

by **RogueScribner** on Sun Mar 26, 2006 5:53 pm

"Bigger" is relative. More people see Alyson Hannigan and David Boreanaz each week than when they were on Buffy. The quality of the series is a matter of opinion, but their audience size is not. Date Movie made a tidy profit. SMG has several films in the pipeline.

The fact that all the main cast of Buffy are currently working steadily (save for Nicholas Brendon) is contrary to any "curse" statement. And the fact that while the spotlight isn't as focused on them as in the past, they are being seen by more people, I don't see how that is a bad thing.

There is not a Buffy curse. At least, not with the evidence presented in that dubious article.

by **Pudie** on Tue Mar 28, 2006 1:15 am

Just finished season 5. Gotta love Buffy with the big hammer.

by **Pudie** on Tue Mar 28, 2006 1:18 am

My favorite was Buffy in a silk nighty

by **RogueScribner** on Tue Mar 28, 2006 1:20 am

Buffy with the rocket launcher is my favorite.

by **RogueScribner** on Tue Mar 28, 2006 1:25 am

This board is screwing up again.

LET'S DO THE TIME WARP AGAIN!!!

by **RogueScribner** on Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:29 pm

While Joss Whedon bangs away at the Wonder Woman script (and no, Kate Beckinsale is not Wonder Woman, though she wouldn't be too bad of a choice ), Tim Minear, Angel and Firefly showrunner, is releasing a new DVD called Breaking the Story.

Breaking the Story is an exercise in breaking a single episode of a one-hour drama, with active audience participation. Armed with a white board and marker, Tim Minear guides the class through teaser and act breaks of an episode of the long-running WB hit television show, Angel.

More information can be found at the Creative Screenwriting website.

I'll definitely be picking that one up!

by **Pudie** on Wed Apr 12, 2006 7:58 pm

Mumfar! Do the dance of shame!

One of the funniest Angel moments yet.

by **bamf** on Sun Oct 01, 2006 6:32 pm

*cough cough* phew..

Just blowing the dust off this thread. Need some zoner help here. I am decorating the exterior of a house for Halloween. I want to include some sort of Buffy reference, possibly subtle, but perhaps over the top. Once finished Ill post on picture of the day. Suggestions?

by **Lord Voldemoo** on Sun Oct 01, 2006 6:40 pm

something creepy or something funny?

by **TonyWilson** on Sun Oct 01, 2006 6:41 pm

If you want really subtle, how about a GI Joe doll dressed up as the demon they accidentally summon on halloween - the 6 inch high one.

by **bamf** on Sun Oct 01, 2006 6:52 pm

Creepy is good, funny is better. I have a skeletal hand shooting out of the ground in front of a headstone, thats creepy.

by **Lord Voldemoo** on Sun Oct 01, 2006 7:05 pm

TonyWilson wrote:If you want really subtle, how about a GI Joe doll dressed up as the demon they accidentally summon on halloween - the 6 inch high one.

That's EXACTLY what I was thinking of...

by **darkjedijaina** on Sun Oct 01, 2006 7:42 pm

or you could make a paper bag that said "Double Meat Palace" on it, and have a severed body part inside, sitting at the front door or something.

by **cap** on Sun Oct 01, 2006 8:04 pm

darkjedijaina wrote:or you could make a paper bag that said "Double Meat Palace" on it, and have a severed body part inside, sitting at the front door or something.

Ha! Almost forgot about that!

by **bamf** on Sun Oct 01, 2006 9:06 pm

TonyWilson wrote:If you want really subtle, how about a GI Joe doll dressed up as the demon they accidentally summon on halloween - the 6 inch high one.

darkjedijaina wrote:or you could make a paper bag that said "Double Meat Palace" on it, and have a severed body part inside, sitting at the front door or something.

Brilliant! They wont let me put a Keep God Out Of California sign. Ill do this instead.

by **Flumm** on Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:23 pm

bamf wrote:*cough cough* phew..

Just blowing the dust off this thread. Need some zoner help here. I am decorating the exterior of a house for Halloween. I want to include some sort of Buffy reference, possibly subtle, but perhaps over the top. Once finished Ill post on picture of the day. Suggestions?

If you were really pushing out the boat, bamf, I'm sure Freddie Prince has a free afternoon or two.

Whether this would be a subtle reference, or over the top, I leave to you...

by **RogueScribner** on Sun Oct 01, 2006 11:10 pm

Remove your front door and seal the wall.

Then stand outside in a bunny suit.

by **The Vicar** on Mon Oct 02, 2006 6:34 am

Something along the lines of
Welcome to the Hellmouth
( in a banner )
would probably fit.

Or Sunnydale Cemetary.
Buffy's tombstone from the end of season five.

by **darkjedijaina** on Mon Oct 02, 2006 7:09 am

The Vicar wrote:Buffy's tombstone from the end of season six.

end of five, right?

but yeah those are good ideas, too.

by **The Vicar** on Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:04 am

Ah shit.
Five.
Like I said, its been rough.
Now I can't frigging count.

Season Five.
bleehh

by **Vegeta** on Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:49 am

Yeah, I love the quote on the headstone:

"She saved the world, a lot"

by **The Vicar** on Mon Oct 02, 2006 11:11 am

Vegeta wrote:Yeah, I love the quote on the headstone:

"She saved the world, a lot"

It was perfect.

by **cap** on Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:24 pm

Vegeta wrote:Yeah, I love the quote on the headstone:

"She saved the world, a lot"

And then some.

by **RogueScribner** on Mon Oct 02, 2006 7:53 pm

My epitaph will read "He watched BUFFY a lot. And then some."

by **cap** on Mon Oct 02, 2006 8:10 pm

RogueScribner wrote:My epitaph will read "He watched BUFFY a lot. And then some."

Sweet!!!!

done and done...

by **RogueScribner** on Tue Oct 03, 2006 1:16 am

That wasn't an open invitation to murder me, BTW.

by **bamf** on Tue Oct 03, 2006 1:41 am

I just cannot figure out how to mod the pre-fabd styrofoam headstone. Could just print some stone like letters and paste them on, but too chinsy lookin. I need some creature feature people. Working on that bunny costume as well but looks like the door is staying.

by **RogueScribner** on Tue Oct 03, 2006 11:41 am

You need a precision heated cutting tool to do the letter right. I remember using them in school. I'm not really and arts and crafts kind of guy so I don't know where you can find one. Any crafts store I should imagine.

by **The Vicar** on Tue Oct 03, 2006 1:05 pm

RogueScribner wrote:That wasn't an open invitation to murder me, BTW.

oh snap...

:wink:

by **bamf** on Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:23 am

I took all if your suggestions and did what I could. I finished it all about two weeks ago. I had the "Double Meat Palace" bag, a little army demon and "wigguns" written in blood on a tombstone. I live in a nice neighborhood, yet all of these things were stolen. I was going to take a picture, but thought I could benefit by waiting for it to look a little weathered. I am disappointed to say the least. A skeleton and a skull were taken as well. To add insult to injury I went for my nightly run and saw a guy a few streets over putting up a huge marquee that says "Sunnydale Cemetery", all lit up with big stone columns on each side. I cry foul. Iâ€™ve been sabotaged. Ill put a pic up on pic of the day later.

by **darkjedijaina** on Mon Oct 16, 2006 8:42 am

that sucks. sorry to hear the stuff got stolen.

think maybe dawn swiped it?
lame, i know.

by **cap** on Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:40 am

darkjedijaina wrote:that sucks. sorry to hear the stuff got stolen.

think maybe dawn swiped it?
lame, i know.

OHHHHHHH!!!!

That was bad........... But you may have a point :wink:

by **The Vicar** on Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:05 pm

That does indeed suck.

Sounds like Harmony's gang.

by **Doc Holliday** on Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:24 pm

bamf wrote:I took all if your suggestions and did what I could. I finished it all about two weeks ago. I had the "Double Meat Palace" bag, a little army demon and "wigguns" written in blood on a tombstone. I live in a nice neighborhood, yet all of these things were stolen. I was going to take a picture, but thought I could benefit by waiting for it to look a little weathered. I am disappointed to say the least. A skeleton and a skull were taken as well. To add insult to injury I went for my nightly run and saw a guy a few streets over putting up a huge marquee that says "Sunnydale Cemetery", all lit up with big stone columns on each side. I cry foul. Iâ€™ve been sabotaged. Ill put a pic up on pic of the day later.

Man - that doesn't just suck....it spits as well.

A ventriloquists dummy was seen in the vicinity 5 minutes beforehand...

by **RogueScribner** on Tue Oct 17, 2006 11:15 am

It was Spike. He just can't get over Buffy.

by **Leckomaniac** on Sat Jan 13, 2007 4:27 am

So I just got back from the coolest event ever!

the BUFFY SING-A-LONG!

Seriously, it was incredible. I can't wait to go again tomorrow.

THere had to have been a thousand people there...the line to get in was blocks long.

ONCE MORE, WITH FEELING!

by **DaleTremont** on Sat Jan 13, 2007 5:06 am

Leckomaniac wrote:So I just got back from the coolest event ever!

the BUFFY SING-A-LONG!

Seriously, it was incredible. I can't wait to go again tomorrow.

THere had to have been a thousand people there...the line to get in was blocks long.

ONCE MORE, WITH FEELING!

you lucky bastard!

by **Lord Voldemoo** on Sat Jan 13, 2007 5:16 am

DaleTremont wrote:
Leckomaniac wrote:So I just got back from the coolest event ever!

the BUFFY SING-A-LONG!

Seriously, it was incredible. I can't wait to go again tomorrow.

THere had to have been a thousand people there...the line to get in was blocks long.

ONCE MORE, WITH FEELING!

you lucky bastard!

That sounds like fun.

plus I'm three sheets to the wind right now so I would totally join in!

I DIEEED...SO MANY YEARS AGOOOO...BUT YOU CAN MAKE ME FEEL...LIKE IT WASNT SOOOO...AND WHY YOU COME TO BE WITH ME, I THINK I FINALLY KNOOOOOOW.........................MMMM HMMMM

Man, why do I ever come in here when I'm drinking? Note to self: edit tomorrow.

EDIT (in the harsh light of day): hahahahaha!! Screw it, I'm leaving this as/is.

by **Leckomaniac** on Sat Jan 13, 2007 5:29 am

Lord Voldemoo wrote:
DaleTremont wrote:
Leckoma niac wrote:So I just got back from the coolest event ever!

the BUFFY SING-A-LONG!

Seriously, it was incredible. I can't wait to go again tomorrow.

THere had to have been a thousand people there...the line to get in was blocks long.

ONCE MORE, WITH FEELING!

you lucky bastard!

That sounds like fun.

plus I'm three sheets to the wind right now so I would totally join in!

I DIEEED...SO MANY YEARS AGOOOO...BUT YOU CAN MAKE ME FEEL...LIKE IT WASNT SOOOO...AND WHY YOU COME TO BE WITH ME, I THINK I FINALLY KNOOOOOOW.........................MMMM HMMMM

Man, why do I ever come in here when I'm drinking? Note to self: edit tomorrow.

HA! I singing Spike's tune was so much fun. The "mmmm hmmm" part especially.

I honestly can't describe how much fun I had. It wa definitely a highlight for me. According to the guy who runs it this was their first show outside of NY and they are planning a nation wide tour. So it might be coming to a place near you.

ALSO, for you LA zoners they are planning a Buffy Prom in the actual high school they used for Sunnydale High!

Alright, now take a breath.

by **Keepcoolbutcare** on Sat Jan 13, 2007 7:46 am

DaleTremont wrote:
Leckomaniac wrote:So I just got back from the coolest event ever!

the BUFFY SING-A-LONG!

Seriously, it was incredible. I can't wait to go again tomorrow.

THere had to have been a thousand people there...the line to get in was blocks long.

ONCE MORE, WITH FEELING!

you lucky bastard!

what's the matter Dale, can't get into the Parkway Speakeasy?

they did "Once More With Feeling" about a month ago, and they're showing it again in February.

couches, beer, food, Oakland's finest hipster-nerds, Y.T. and me are doin' Valentines there on Feb. 15th.

you're more than welcome (no threesome...unless, you know...), if you can get in...

by **DaleTremont** on Sat Jan 13, 2007 7:58 pm

Keepcoolbutcare wrote:
DaleTremont wrote:
Leckomaniac wrote:So I just got back from the coolest event ever!

the BUFFY SING-A-LONG!

Seriously, it was incredible. I can't wait to go again tomorrow.

THere had to have been a thousand people there...the line to get in was blocks long.

ONCE MORE, WITH FEELING!

you lucky bastard!

what's the matter Dale, can't get into the Parkway Speakeasy?

they did "Once More With Feeling" about a month ago, and they're showing it again in February.

couches, beer, food, Oakland's finest hipster-nerds, Y.T. and me are doin' Valentines there on Feb. 15th.

you're more than welcome (no threesome...unless, you know...), if you can get in...

Damn my underageyness and my not-in-berkeley-ness! Thanks for the invite though. I'm sure you two kids will have a ball.

Maybe I'll try out that prom thing. Put on my dancin shoes and watch out for hellhounds. My Buffy box sets can be my date.

by **The Vicar** on Thu Jan 18, 2007 3:28 pm

Lord Voldemoo wrote:
DaleTremont wrote:
Leckoma niac wrote:So I just got back from the coolest event ever!

the BUFFY SING-A-LONG!

Seriously, it was incredible. I can't wait to go again tomorrow.

THere had to have been a thousand people there...the line to get in was blocks long.

ONCE MORE, WITH FEELING!

you lucky bastard!

That sounds like fun.

plus I'm three sheets to the wind right now so I would totally join in!

I DIEEED...SO MANY YEARS AGOOOO...BUT YOU CAN MAKE ME FEEL...LIKE IT WASNT SOOOO...AND WHY YOU COME TO BE WITH ME, I THINK I FINALLY KNOOOOOOW.........................MMMM HMMMM

Man, why do I ever come in here when I'm drinking? Note to self: edit tomorrow.EDIT (in the harsh light of day): hahahahaha!! Screw it, I'm leaving this as/is.

Because the posts, much like our beloved Iconny's, take on subtler nuisances, a deeper ressonance....okay, bullshit.
Drunks posting are tres funny.
I've seen a couple of my besotted posts.
Not bad typing for a waddling putz.
We should have a day where everyone comes in and posts, either drunk as a lord or gassed on chronic.
Call it Club Drunk Dinks.

by **TonyWilson** on Thu Jan 18, 2007 3:32 pm

The Vicar wrote:
Lord Voldemoo wrote:
DaleTremont wrote:
Leckoma niac wrote:So I just got back from the coolest event ever!

the BUFFY SING-A-LONG!

Seriously, it was incredible. I can't wait to go again tomorrow.

THere had to have been a thousand people there...the line to get in was blocks long.

ONCE MORE, WITH FEELING!

you lucky bastard!

That sounds like fun.

plus I'm three sheets to the wind right now so I would totally join in!

I DIEEED...SO MANY YEARS AGOOOO...BUT YOU CAN MAKE ME FEEL...LIKE IT WASNT SOOOO...AND WHY YOU COME TO BE WITH ME, I THINK I FINALLY KNOOOOOOW.........................MMMM HMMMM

Man, why do I ever come in here when I'm drinking? Note to self: edit tomorrow.EDIT (in the harsh light of day): hahahahaha!! Screw it, I'm leaving this as/is.

Because the posts, much like our beloved Iconny's, take on subtler nuisances, a deeper ressonance....okay, bullshit.
Drunks posting are tres funny.
I've seen a couple of my besotted posts.
Not bad typing for a waddling putz.
We should have a day where everyone comes in and posts, either drunk as a lord or gassed on chronic.
Call it Club Drunk Dinks.

You mean, we aren't meant to do that everyday?

:shock:

Oh my.

by **The Vicar** on Thu Jan 18, 2007 3:36 pm

"You mean, we aren't meant to do that everyday?

Oh my."
I missed that fucking memo, didn't I?
Screw it - crack open the Jack's....

by **RogueScribner** on Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:50 pm

So, do you think it's possible to kill a vampire with a tanning bed? And no, not by throwing it at his head. :wink:

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