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Real Time With Bill Maher

PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 5:47 pm
by Fievel
If this needs to be moved to the EFBR, I completely understand.

Anyone watch this? I'm happy as hell that it's back on!
This past week's was okay. Tim Robbins is a little too intense for my tastes.
It was almost like he was doing the standard Sarandon/Robbins rant without any care to what everyone else was talking about.

Good times.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 5:51 pm
by minstrel
I definitely agree, Fievel. Tim Robbins didn't seem to be aware of what anybody else was saying. My respect for him went down a few notches.

But I do like the show. Bill Maher himself bugs me a bit, because he's always laughing at his own jokes and seems such a Struggling Background Artist sometimes, but I'm glad that he keeps the show smart.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 5:52 pm
by stereosforgeeks
I forgot this was back on. Thanks for the heads-up.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 5:57 pm
by Maui
Maher had a HBO comedy special a few weeks back. Hilarious!

Anyone catch that?

PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 5:58 pm
by minstrel
Maui wrote:Maher had a HBO comedy special a few weeks back. Hilarious!

Anyone catch that?


I saw it. It wasn't bad. Bill still came off as though he's really impressed with himself, though.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:03 pm
by Maui
minstrel wrote:
Maui wrote:Maher had a HBO comedy special a few weeks back. Hilarious!

Anyone catch that?


I saw it. It wasn't bad. Bill still came off as though he's really impressed with himself, though.



Uh huh!

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:05 pm
by Lord Voldemoo
Maui wrote:
minstrel wrote:
Maui wrote:Maher had a HBO comedy special a few weeks back. Hilarious!

Anyone catch that?


I saw it. It wasn't bad. Bill still came off as though he's really impressed with himself, though.



Uh huh!

Image


HAHAHA...did you guys rehearse this?

PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:07 pm
by Maui
Lord Voldemoo wrote:
Maui wrote:
minstrel wrote:
Maui wrote:Maher had a HBO comedy special a few weeks back. Hilarious!

Anyone catch that?


I saw it. It wasn't bad. Bill still came off as though he's really impressed with himself, though.



Uh huh!

Image


HAHAHA...did you guys rehearse this?



Yes, secretly and cleverly strategized.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 7:24 pm
by Chairman Kaga
I love Real Time. Great show.

Robbins came off as a parrot regurgitating the standard "liberal" reactions. Not very impressed with him as a result.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 7:48 pm
by TheBaxter
i love the show too. maher is a bit full of himself, but compared to the right-wing versions like an o'reilly or a hannity, or even compared to olbermann, he comes off somewhat better.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:13 pm
by Maui
Anyone catch Mos Def on the show last night?

:roll:

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:18 pm
by TheBaxter
i don't believe in Mos Def

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:19 pm
by Maui
TheBaxter wrote:i don't believe in Mos Def



hahahah, all over the map, eh?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:26 pm
by minstrel
I didn't see the one with Mos Def. I'll have to catch one of the repeat showings.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:28 pm
by Maui
minstrel wrote:I didn't see the one with Mos Def. I'll have to catch one of the repeat showings.


Yeah, try to catch it.

Bill welcomes scholar Cornel West and rapper/actor Mos Def. Plus via satellite, activist Ralph Nader and Colonel Larry Wilkerson.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:32 pm
by Fievel
Yeah that Mos Def episode was something else.
Everything was going fine until Mos Def lost it... but apparently he lost it quite a while ago. Does he SERIOUSLY think we've never been to the moon?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:34 pm
by minstrel
Fievel wrote:Yeah that Mos Def episode was something else.
Everything was going fine until Mos Def lost it... but apparently he lost it quite a while ago. Does he SERIOUSLY think we've never been to the moon?


???????

Mos Def lost it? We've never been to the moon? Yeesh.

Gotta find out when it's on again and make time for it!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:35 pm
by Maui
Fievel wrote:Yeah that Mos Def episode was something else.
Everything was going fine until Mos Def lost it... but apparently he lost it quite a while ago. Does he SERIOUSLY think we've never been to the moon?


Yeah but the whole thing about the Karan, c'mon. I thought it was funny when Maher said he must have been reading a different translation. hahaha!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:36 pm
by Maui
minstrel wrote:
Fievel wrote:Yeah that Mos Def episode was something else.
Everything was going fine until Mos Def lost it... but apparently he lost it quite a while ago. Does he SERIOUSLY think we've never been to the moon?


???????

Mos Def lost it? We've never been to the moon? Yeesh.

Gotta find out when it's on again and make time for it!


The 12th Squirrelly, just checked! Watch it! I want your take on it.

hahahah

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:41 pm
by minstrel
Maui wrote:
minstrel wrote:
Fieve l wrote:Yeah that Mos Def episode was something else.
Everything was going fine until Mos Def lost it... but apparently he lost it quite a while ago. Does he SERIOUSLY think we've never been to the moon?


???????

Mos Def lost it? We've never been to the moon? Yeesh.

Gotta find out when it's on again and make time for it!


The 12th Squirrelly, just checked! Watch it! I want your take on it.

hahahah


I can probably watch it later today - I just checked, and my DirecTV receiver recorded it! I forgot that I'd set it up to record that show.

Serendupidity.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:41 pm
by stereosforgeeks
Fievel wrote:Yeah that Mos Def episode was something else.
Everything was going fine until Mos Def lost it... but apparently he lost it quite a while ago. Does he SERIOUSLY think we've never been to the moon?


Wait what?!!?!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:42 pm
by Maui
minstrel wrote:
Maui wrote:
minst rel wrote:
Fieve l wrote:Yeah that Mos Def episode was something else.
Everything was going fine until Mos Def lost it... but apparently he lost it quite a while ago. Does he SERIOUSLY think we've never been to the moon?


???????

Mos Def lost it? We've never been to the moon? Yeesh.

Gotta find out when it's on again and make time for it!


The 12th Squirrelly, just checked! Watch it! I want your take on it.

hahahah


I can probably watch it later today - I just checked, and my DirecTV receiver recorded it! I forgot that I'd set it up to record that show.

Serendupidity.


Ok, make sure to come back to this thread. I think Bax, Fievel and I are being kind about Def. :roll:

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:44 pm
by Fievel
Maui wrote:
Fievel wrote:Yeah that Mos Def episode was something else.
Everything was going fine until Mos Def lost it... but apparently he lost it quite a while ago. Does he SERIOUSLY think we've never been to the moon?


Yeah but the whole thing about the Karan, c'mon. I thought it was funny when Maher said he must have been reading a different translation. hahaha!


Picking with religion is a favorite pastime of Maher's and witnessing him doing it is a huge guilty pleasure of mine. But the comments on the Koran were justified as far as I know. I've seen plenty of passages about the use of the sword in my copy. It seems that American Islam and the International version are two highly different things.
I thought for sure that between that part and the "off the map" part that Mos Def was going to freak out and start swinging. He was just getting so wound up.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:47 pm
by Maui
Fievel wrote:I thought for sure that between that part and the "off the map" part that Mos Def was going to freak out and start swinging. He was just getting so wound up.


He monopolized too much of the discussion - I would have rather heard more dialogue between Maher and West. Oh well.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:49 pm
by Fievel
MOS DEF: [overlapping] It don’t mean it is not valid, neither. Science – highly-educated people in all areas of science have spoken on the fishiness around that whole 9/11 theory. It’s like the magic bullet and all that shit.

MAHER: And what – and what happened?

MOS DEF: I don’t believe these motherfuckers been to the moon, neither. But that’s just me.


From the show's TRANSCRIPT

Unfortunately, the transcript doesn't talk about the tone Mr. Def was using, which I'd categorize as Freak-Out-Paranoid.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:50 pm
by Maui
Fievel wrote:
MOS DEF: [overlapping] It don’t mean it is not valid, neither. Science – highly-educated people in all areas of science have spoken on the fishiness around that whole 9/11 theory. It’s like the magic bullet and all that shit.

MAHER: And what – and what happened?

MOS DEF: I don’t believe these motherfuckers been to the moon, neither. But that’s just me.


From the show's TRANSCRIPT

Unfortunately, the transcript doesn't talk about the tone Mr. Def was using, which I'd categorize as Freak-Out-Paranoid.


I like Def better in 16 Blocks. He didn't say so much!

Did you notice how quiet he was at the very beginning. Then all of a sudden - BAM, wouldn't shut up!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:50 pm
by Fievel
Maui wrote:
Fievel wrote:I thought for sure that between that part and the "off the map" part that Mos Def was going to freak out and start swinging. He was just getting so wound up.


He monopolized too much of the discussion - I would have rather heard more dialogue between Maher and West. Oh well.


I wish the third guest was there. That would have brought something different to the table - as it usually does by design.
West is an interesting guy and I thoroughly enjoyed hearing him speak, but once Mos Def went off, it was all about commenting on what Def said.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:51 pm
by minstrel
You guys make it sound like he was on some kind of drugs!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:53 pm
by Fievel
Maui wrote:
Fievel wrote:
MOS DEF: [overlapping] It don’t mean it is not valid, neither. Science – highly-educated people in all areas of science have spoken on the fishiness around that whole 9/11 theory. It’s like the magic bullet and all that shit.

MAHER: And what – and what happened?

MOS DEF: I don’t believe these motherfuckers been to the moon, neither. But that’s just me.


From the show's TRANSCRIPT

Unfortunately, the transcript doesn't talk about the tone Mr. Def was using, which I'd categorize as Freak-Out-Paranoid.


I like Def better in 16 Blocks. He didn't say so much!

Did you notice how quiet he was at the very beginning. Then all of a sudden - BAM, wouldn't shut up!


Exactly!!! The phrase "hit a nerve" would fit the description here.
Actually, after perusing the transcript, Mos Def was off is rocker from the get-go.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:54 pm
by Fievel
minstrel wrote:You guys make it sound like he was on some kind of drugs!


I believe he was 100% stone cold sober.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:55 pm
by Maui
minstrel wrote:You guys make it sound like he was on some kind of drugs!



He just took the ball, ran with it...and went all over the place with it. It was stressful to watch.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:58 pm
by Maui
Fievel wrote:
minstrel wrote:You guys make it sound like he was on some kind of drugs!


I believe he was 100% stone cold sober.


Yup, he was.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:59 pm
by Maui
Fievel, you read any of Maher's books? Just curious.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 1:36 pm
by TheBaxter
i think it was kinda sad. he actually made a decent point about how being black in america, growing up in the projects, he never felt any security to begin with, so 9/11 had a different meaning for him (west might have made the point def was trying to make a bit more coherently)... but then, once he goes off on the 9/11 conspiracy theory stuff and not believing in al qaida and bin laden and the moon landing and loch ness monster (ok, i'll give him that one), it just undercuts his more reasonable comments from earlier and makes him look like another wacko.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 1:38 pm
by Maui
TheBaxter wrote:i think it was kinda sad. he actually made a decent point about how being black in america, growing up in the projects, he never felt any security to begin with, so 9/11 had a different meaning for him (west might have made the point def was trying to make a bit more coherently)... but then, once he goes off on the 9/11 conspiracy theory stuff and not believing in al qaida and bin laden and the moon landing and loch ness monster (ok, i'll give him that one), it just undercuts his more reasonable comments from earlier and makes him look like another wacko.



They were few and far between, but Mos did have some good comments. Unfortunately they were overshadowed by his rants.

I hear you though!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 1:39 pm
by Fievel
Maui wrote:Fievel, you read any of Maher's books? Just curious.


The only one I read.... errr... listened to was New Rules, and it was most of the New Rules that were on his show. I actually got bored with it. I meant to check out others, but never got around to it.

I did see him in concert once, though. Great show.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 1:41 pm
by Maui
Fievel wrote: listened to was New Rules, and it was most of the New Rules that were on his show. I actually got bored with it. I meant to check out others, but never got around to it.


Love the Rules!!!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 1:49 pm
by Chairman Kaga
Mos was definitely spewing crazy conspiracy garbage.

I also love how religious folks always point to Stalin or Mao as examples of atheists responsible for genocides when faced with the standard Crusades/Inquisition/New World conquering etc argument against religion.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 2:39 pm
by Maui
Chairman Kaga wrote:Mos was definitely spewing crazy conspiracy garbage.

I also love how religious folks always point to Stalin or Mao as examples of atheists responsible for genocides when faced with the standard Crusades/Inquisition/New World conquering etc argument against religion.



Common practice though, eh? Might as well throw in Hitler too.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 2:48 pm
by Chairman Kaga
Maui wrote:
Chairman Kaga wrote:Mos was definitely spewing crazy conspiracy garbage.

I also love how religious folks always point to Stalin or Mao as examples of atheists responsible for genocides when faced with the standard Crusades/Inquisition/New World conquering etc argument against religion.



Common practice though, eh? Might as well throw in Hitler too.

Hitler while not a Christian believed in the Occult, Psychics, Tarot etc. Hardly the standard secular atheist.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 3:00 pm
by Maui
Chairman Kaga wrote:Hitler while not a Christian believed in the Occult, Psychics, Tarot etc. Hardly the standard secular atheist.


Yeah, I'm pretty religious about my cribbage. :wink:


You are right! Hitler had his own type of religion. I didn't hone in on the atheist part. :roll:

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 4:05 pm
by Chairman Kaga
hmmm I wonder if I have insulted Maui.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 4:15 pm
by TheBaxter
Chairman Kaga wrote:hmmm I wonder if I have insulted Maui.


well, have you noticed yourself having to spend an inordinate amount of time in the corner lately...?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 4:16 pm
by Maui
Chairman Kaga wrote:hmmm I wonder if I have insulted Maui.



Nope! Not in the least! Takes quite alot to ruffle these feathers! :)

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 4:36 pm
by minstrel
Maui wrote:
Chairman Kaga wrote:hmmm I wonder if I have insulted Maui.



Nope! Not in the least! Takes quite alot to ruffle these feathers! :)


Maui has feathers??

Be still, my beating heart!

:wink:

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 4:44 pm
by Chairman Kaga
TheBaxter wrote:
Chairman Kaga wrote:hmmm I wonder if I have insulted Maui.


well, have you noticed yourself having to spend an inordinate amount of time in the corner lately...?

I do insult alot off people on here so maybe I should be in the corner.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 4:49 pm
by Maui
Chairman Kaga wrote:
TheBaxter wrote:
Chairman Kaga wrote:hmmm I wonder if I have insulted Maui.


well, have you noticed yourself having to spend an inordinate amount of time in the corner lately...?

I do insult alot off people on here so maybe I should be in the corner.


I determine who goes to the corner. You are fine - carry on!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 4:50 pm
by Chairman Kaga
Maui wrote:I determine who goes to the corner.

Swayze style?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 5:13 pm
by Maui
Chairman Kaga wrote:
Maui wrote:I determine who goes to the corner.

Swayze style?



Yeah....I do get the DD reference though, just so you know.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 5:46 pm
by Maui
Yoo hoo! Did you watch it Squirrelly?

Thoughts...?