Fievel wrote:Good second episode. So far I'm really liking the casting in the show.
So far Glenn looks perfect. Jeffery DeMunn as Dale looks to be perfect as well. I really like how we're just getting little glimpses of the people in the campground. At first glance there seems to be more people there than was in the comic - and I like that. It would be a great way to create characters just to let them be killed. Sort of like the Star Trek redshirts, only with a bit of character development.
The Lori/Shane dynamic in the first episode gave me the feeling that Shane was forcing things to happen. The second episode squashed that thought. I'm wondering, especially after the Shane/Rick dialogue that opened the pilot episode (which had a really odd vibe to it), if something was going on before the zombies came.
darkjedijaina wrote:I kinda didn't like that they set up the relationship between her and shane like that.
in the gn, wasn't it just the one time? out of mourning and grief?
this makes it like she's a big whore.
not that there's anything wrong with whores, but it just changes the entire dynamic of her character for me.
aside from that small thing, i dug the episode. a lot.
i just wish there was more. i'm like...an hour's up already?! lol
DennisMM wrote:djj, in the comic Shane and Lori had a one-nighter, strictly from grief and for comfort.
TheBaxter wrote:when that guy lost the key down the pipe, i was fully expecting him to hand the saw to the white power dude before he took off and ran. i mean, they even show him kicking over the box of tools before he loses the key, plus it was set up earlier when the white power dude was asking him to give him the bandsaw so he could saw through the cuffs. so i was surprised that didn't pay off, though maybe it will next episode... maybe the white power dude will be able to get a hold of that saw with his foot or by making a lasso out of his shirt or something. of course, we've all seen Saw, so we know it will come down to him not being able to saw through the cuffs, and then some zombies will make it to the roof and he'll have to saw off his hand to escape getting eaten.
so sorry wrote:I'm sure all the comic book readers here already know the outcome...
so sorry wrote:And like Dennis mentioned earlier, the sex act of him flipping her over and taking her from behind was really bizarre to me. What the fuck was the point of showing that?
so sorry wrote: And like Dennis mentioned earlier, the sex act of him flipping her over and taking her from behind was really bizarre to me. What the fuck was the point of showing that?
Fievel wrote:so sorry wrote:I'm sure all the comic book readers here already know the outcome...
I'm pretty sure that racist white guy was not in the comics (read the first book a couple years ago.. memory could be failing). Darabont & Kirkman have said that they'll be adding new characters to the TV show. This makes it "new" for those of us that have read the comics.
travis-dane wrote:He fucked her from behind, so what? He did not fuck her in the ass.
tapehead wrote:'...one more thing, he was an organ donor' - what a great line.
DennisMM wrote:Honestly, I didn't find that very funny. I think I smiled, but it struck me as somehow touching and respectful on Glenn's part.
As Michael Rooker was billed as a guest star, I wouldn't expect him to be around long.
Fievel wrote:DennisMM wrote:Honestly, I didn't find that very funny. I think I smiled, but it struck me as somehow touching and respectful on Glenn's part.
As Michael Rooker was billed as a guest star, I wouldn't expect him to be around long.
I think it became more funny when intestines were being draped around the neck.
Nachokoolaid wrote:I like how each episode has a zombie or two that are the "face" zombies for that episode and they really rise above the rest. For episode one, it was the black wife and the legless white chick in the park, and for me, the guy with the sport coat that looked really pissed about being a zombie. In this episode, it was the guy that was sniffing them more than the others right before the rain started. He was so close, and all it would take was a quick bite, and he would have them. Anyway, I like how it gives the zombies a bit of personality and makes them a bit more than some monster or something, even though they're quite monstrous.
papalazeru wrote:
Zombie acting school.
DerLanghaarige wrote:I think episode 2 would have made a slightly better pilot (or for that matter: if this would have been the 2nd half of the pilot it had worked better IMO). But just like the pilot it didn't add anything new to the genre (maybe the Zombie Camouflage, but that was just an R-rated, dramatic version of the act-like-zombies moment from SHAUN OF THE DEAD), although that old story was so well told it didn't matter.
Okay, I could have done without Rooker's character. But just because his character was such an overused stereotype, that you can't use for anything else than create cheap tension and to be honest, this episode didn't need "the stubborn racist asshole who is too dumb to realize the situation he is stuck in" and as much as I usually enjoy to see Michael Rooker, I hope he won't come back.
But all in all THE WALKING DEAD managed to keep its level of quality from the pilot.
Nachokoolaid wrote:DerLanghaarige wrote:I think episode 2 would have made a slightly better pilot (or for that matter: if this would have been the 2nd half of the pilot it had worked better IMO). But just like the pilot it didn't add anything new to the genre (maybe the Zombie Camouflage, but that was just an R-rated, dramatic version of the act-like-zombies moment from SHAUN OF THE DEAD), although that old story was so well told it didn't matter.
Okay, I could have done without Rooker's character. But just because his character was such an overused stereotype, that you can't use for anything else than create cheap tension and to be honest, this episode didn't need "the stubborn racist asshole who is too dumb to realize the situation he is stuck in" and as much as I usually enjoy to see Michael Rooker, I hope he won't come back.
But all in all THE WALKING DEAD managed to keep its level of quality from the pilot.
Well after watching the preview for next week, you're going to be disappointed. Not only is he back, but they go back to the city to get hissorry ass apparently.
Fievel wrote:Interesting episode. I didn't get the ending, though. If he had a hacksaw, why didn't he cut through the chain? Was he that stupid to try? Too scared? Too fucked up from exposure/dehydration?
stereosforgeeks wrote:
Also, as per Lori it seemed crazy she basically suggested he go and then got pissed when he acted on it.
BuckyO'harre wrote:so sorry wrote: And like Dennis mentioned earlier, the sex act of him flipping her over and taking her from behind was really bizarre to me. What the fuck was the point of showing that?
That they ain't nothing but mammals...?
The Vicar wrote:I am somewhat dismayed that the show is wasting/has wasted/will continue to waste time on characters that were not in the story,
thus delaying the actual progress of the story as readers of the GN have known it.
These extra characters, so far, have really added nothing to the mix other than some rather badly cliched "good ol boy redneck" peckerwoods. There is so much really intense, good stuff waiting down the road
that these unnecessary detours are beginning to get on my tit.
As Monty Python once said;
"GET ON WITH IT!!!!"
Love ya, Mr. Darabont.
Just saying.
theangiechrist wrote:BuckyO'harre wrote:so sorry wrote: And like Dennis mentioned earlier, the sex act of him flipping her over and taking her from behind was really bizarre to me. What the fuck was the point of showing that?
That they ain't nothing but mammals...?
I don't think it was as much dominance over her than him usurping his command over civilians since Rick was "gone." He's going nuts with power, then Rick comes back and he's back to being Mr #2. He hates that, he has to.
TheBaxter wrote:when that guy lost the key down the pipe, i was fully expecting him to hand the saw to the white power dude before he took off and ran. i mean, they even show him kicking over the box of tools before he loses the key, plus it was set up earlier when the white power dude was asking him to give him the bandsaw so he could saw through the cuffs. so i was surprised that didn't pay off, though maybe it will next episode... maybe the white power dude will be able to get a hold of that saw with his foot or by making a lasso out of his shirt or something. of course, we've all seen Saw, so we know it will come down to him not being able to saw through the cuffs, and then some zombies will make it to the roof and he'll have to saw off his hand to escape getting eaten.
Fievel wrote:Interesting episode. I didn't get the ending, though. If he had a hacksaw, why didn't he cut through the chain? Was he that stupid to try? Too scared? Too fucked up from exposure/dehydration?
Fievel wrote:I don't remember Shane having told Lori that Rick was dead in the comic. It was kind of funny for me when he did that. I had just thought to myself how much I loathed Lori so far in the TV show. I absolutely hated Shane in the comic and the show, but until Lori said that he told her Rick was dead I had zero sympathy for her situation. Now we'll have to wait and see when exactly did they start bumping uglies.
TheBaxter wrote:do you really think it's that easy to saw through a pair of handcuffs? not that i've tried, but i'd imagine it would be pretty damn hard to saw through steel, and i'd also think handccuffs would be made out of a particularly hard metal to saw or otherwise cut through, because, y'know, they're handcuffs, and they're designed to not be easily gotten out of.
he may have had more success sawing through that pipe he was handcuffed to though.
i figure he was spooked by those zombies trying to get at them (even though the black guy said he padlocked the chain and there was no way for them to bust through, he might not have known that or was too dumb to realize it) and chose the quickest thing to cut through to get free.
stereosforgeeks wrote:TheBaxter wrote:do you really think it's that easy to saw through a pair of handcuffs? not that i've tried, but i'd imagine it would be pretty damn hard to saw through steel, and i'd also think handccuffs would be made out of a particularly hard metal to saw or otherwise cut through, because, y'know, they're handcuffs, and they're designed to not be easily gotten out of.
he may have had more success sawing through that pipe he was handcuffed to though.
i figure he was spooked by those zombies trying to get at them (even though the black guy said he padlocked the chain and there was no way for them to bust through, he might not have known that or was too dumb to realize it) and chose the quickest thing to cut through to get free.
The pipe was definitely the way to go with the hollow middle. Once you get through the beginning it wouldnt be that difficult.
Sawing off your own hand without passing out and bleeding out would be very difficult imho. Also, its a real stupid move because unless he can cauterized and disinfect within a short amount of time hes going to die anyway.
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