so sorry wrote:Any thoughts on why Sansa didn't tell Jon about the Vale rescue operation? Even if she wasn't sure LF would show up, fucking tell your brother before he goes into battle that maybe help could be a few days away?
i think sansa was hoping to avoid relying on littlefinger and the vale army if it was at all possible, knowing that once she played that card, she was back to being indebted to him and reliant on him. when she sent that raven a couple ep's back to tell littlefinger to bring his army up to winterfell, she probably told him to camp out close enough to come when needed, but out of sight so that she could send them back if they ended up not needing them. but littlefinger, being a little more experienced in these things, probably knew they'd need the vale army to defeat ramsay and so he went along with her request, confident she'd come calling when the time came. she didn't tell jon because she hoped they could come up with some plan that would allow them to defeat ramsay without littlefinger's help, and if she told him about the vale army just over the hill, he'd take the easy way out by simply asking for their help himself. when it became obvious to her the night before that the battle was hopeless and that jon wasn't taking her seriously and was going to lead their meager forces into a disaster, she was forced to ask for littlefinger's help after all, just as i'm sure he knew she would.
so sorry wrote:When he got buried under the bodies...my claustrophobia really started to kick in. This is the highlight of that actor's performance on this show, and he barely said a word. The expressions on his face of fear, desperation, sorrow etc. Well fucking done.
for a moment there i was worried we were going to see the sorta cliche'd end where ramsay would win the battle, and after it was all over, jon would crawl alive out from under a mountain of bodies. instead they went with the cliche of the last-minute arrival of another army to save the day, but i was already expecting that.
so sorry wrote:The battle...brutal. Heartstopping (heartracing?). Chaotic. Sad. Hopelessness. Not sure when the Boltons became the Roman Legion, but it worked. By the end, how many of Jon's army survived? Couple hundred? Kinda took care of the whole "thousands of wildlings" in Westeros fear.
the battle reminded me so much of Braveheart. i guess it's inevitable, since the North is basically Scotland. everything from the undisciplined horde of northerners against a larger, more tactical army; the brutal fighting with lots of blood and dismemberment; jon's lone charge into inevitable death, only to be joined by the rest of the army around him at the last moment (actually more reminiscent of Aragorn's charge at the Black Gate in ROTK); the use of the phalanx, etc. but Braveheart is a great movie (and like i said, a natural source to cop from for a Scottish-inspired battle) and it was different enough to not be obvious, i.e. no kilts, blue-painted faces, or "they may take our lives, but they'll never take our FREEDOM!" so it's all good.
so sorry wrote:Next week: Will Cersei torch King's Landing? I say yes, or rather she will partially burn KL, specifically the Great Sept, with all the sparrows inside (and Tommen). She has to be the cause of her last child's death. Then she goes nuts and kills herself somehow. Leaving Margery in charge...
nah, it's go-big-or-go-home time. KL is a goner. all of it. here's how it's gonna go down, margaery is cooperating with the high sparrow to get her revenge on cersei, after which she's got her own secret plan for dealing with the sparrow and freeing her brother and taking back the kingdom. and she'll start setting that plan in motion during the finale, but it's all gonna be a red herring, because right before she can put her plan in action, that's when cersei, at her most desperate, will light the fuse. and once that wildfire gets lit, it will be completely uncontrollable. she might plan on only blowing up the sept, but it will spread and consume the whole city in no time at all, including tommen (no idea if margaery will make it out or not). final scene in that storyline will be the Mountain carrying an ash-covered, unconscious cersei out of KL while the city burns behind them.
so sorry wrote:*I am a bit perplexed about the whole point of Rickon. We were waiting for the Great Northern Conspiracy to be activated, and Shaggydog to come running out of nowhere to save him, but nothing of the sort happened. He just died like a bitch. Methinks that whole plot line was rushed/cut to shoehorn it in to get him out of the way.
sounds about right. i'm sure the books will have a lot more detail on the conspiracy (including the Umbers NOT betraying the Starks, because GRRM isn't that stupid), but it will ultimately end up at the same place, with rickon captive and jon trying to save him. so now we know that whole conspiracy storyline won't amount to anything. or, more precisely, like that arya article i posted up above said, GRRM is taking so long moving all the pieces to get characters to where they need to be to move the story forward organically, and the northern conspiracy plotline is a device to engineer the ultimate showdown between ramsay (or someone) and jon snow for control of winterfell; whereas, in the show, they're just rushing to wrap things up, so they come up with the dumb idea of having a loyal northern family betray 1000 years of oaths and honor to hand rickon over and join the boltons, as a shortcut to avoid all that boring conspiracy stuff.