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Favourite Old Geezer

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:34 am
by John-Locke
Which of these old dudes is your favourite Actor.

Have I missed someone off the List? Tough titty, put it in your post and stop bothering me, I got a lot on my mind Okay?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:37 am
by DinoDeLaurentiis
Ian McKellan? He should a get a the nod for at least 3 geek a favorites, eh? Magneto, Gandalf, anna the father of a the Frankenstein movies!

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:57 am
by TonyWilson
Hackman, never put it in a bad performance. The Conversation is just mind blowingly good and he's never better. Plus he'd make a cool uncle.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 10:04 am
by PVIII
Connery, because he's a creepy old perv who passed on X-men and LOTR. And I guess the whole James Bond thing...

PVIII

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 10:12 am
by DinoDeLaurentiis
TonyWilson wrote:Hackman... Plus he'd make a cool uncle.


"C'mon a Johnny, let's a arm wrestle."

"Not a now, Unca Gene, I'm a reading a my funny books."

"Listen a to me, you little goddamn bastard putz! In a my day, we dinna have a the funny books! We arm wrestled until our elbows, they popped outta joint anna our forearms, they snapped! Me anna your father, when a we was growing up we used to eat raw beef anna the whiskey for breakfast anna it made us a strong! Not a weak like a you, you worthless piece of a the crap!"

"Waaaaaaaaaaaaa!"

"You shut a you mouth before I give a you something to cry about! You donna even unnerstand real pain! You think I a shave a my head inna Superman? I PULLED the hair out! Not a the shave! I pull it out by a the handfuls! It a make a me STRONG!"

Anna so on...

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 10:16 am
by John-Locke
Hackman is no Hack, man (did you see what I did there?).

The dude just oozes Charisma and I wish he were my Dad.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 10:26 am
by WinslowLeach
I went with Gene Hackman because the guy is simply a master. The other factor is he doesnt seem to have sold out even at this point in his career like most of the others have done.

More Runners Up: Dustin Hoffman, Robert Duvall and Chris Walken.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 10:41 am
by docfalken
Jack Nicholson.

He's got charisma oozing out of his pores like I've got gravy oozing out of mine.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 11:08 am
by John-Locke
Yeah I realised I left off a couple of the greats after I had posted, I should have replaced Christopher Lee with Jack.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 11:45 am
by thomasgaffney
I picked Clint. He's not the greatest actor in the world, but I love him to death. The Man with No Name is one of the best western characters of all time. And I still get a kick out of High Plains Drifter when he takes over the town, paints everything red, and renames it Hell.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 12:09 pm
by cockknocker
I went for Kurt as he is cool and seems like hes a nice person too without an inflated ego.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 12:32 pm
by MasterWhedon
My vote is for Sean Connery, for his "old-guy-who-still-kicks-ass" routine in The Rock.

GOODSPEED: I'll do my best.
MASON: Your best? Losers whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen.
GOODSPEED: (cocks gun) Carla was the prom queen.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:41 am
by Shane
Christopher Lee, Michael Gogh, and Peter Cushing are some of my favorite actors of all time.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:43 am
by cap
TonyWilson wrote:Hackman, never put it in a bad performance. The Conversation is just mind blowingly good and he's never better. Plus he'd make a cool uncle.

I agree wholeheartedly.

He plays the good guy, he plays the bad guy. He can do it all, and do it all well. Hell he even makes the unwatchable (The Quick and the Dead) bearable just to see what he does.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:51 am
by Shane
cap wrote:
TonyWilson wrote:Hackman, never put it in a bad performance. The Conversation is just mind blowingly good and he's never better. Plus he'd make a cool uncle.

I agree wholeheartedly.

He plays the good guy, he plays the bad guy. He can do it all, and do it all well. Hell he even makes the unwatchable (The Quick and the Dead) bearable just to see what he does.


I saw on the news a few years back that he got in trouble for kicking a bunch of rapper kids asses. Yes as old as he is and he kicks ass in real life.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:55 am
by lyra belacqua
Ed Harris. No question.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:02 am
by John-Locke
lyra belacqua wrote:Ed Harris. No question.


Why? (sorry you said no question)

If I had to take a guess I'd say it's a combination of his eyes and the shape of his head (which you find sexy, much like my Mum does), he's a great actor for sure but many are, to be a favourite you have to look great or rugged on film and he manages both.


Am I right?

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:06 am
by Peven
oh come on, give Kurt a break, he's not an old man yet. he is probably in better shape and is built better than most dudes half his age too. i voted for Hackman, because as someone already mentioned, the guy never gives a bad performance.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:08 am
by MadCapsule
I voted for Clint. The man's always defined "cool" to me. When I was a kid, aside from wanting to be Luke Skywalker, I wanted to be a cowboy. That was largely due to Clint Eastwood and, to a lesser degree, The Duke.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:10 am
by lyra belacqua
John-Locke wrote:
lyra belacqua wrote:Ed Harris. No question.


Why? (sorry you said no question)

If I had to take a guess I'd say it's a combination of his eyes and the shape of his head (which you find sexy, much like my Mum does), he's a great actor for sure but many are, to be a favourite you have to look great or rugged on film and he manages both.


Am I right?


I was going for the because he can act without becoming a caricature of his own persona (unlike Harrison, Jack, Sean, etc.). My other choice on that list could have been Hackman, but even he seems to be playing "Gene Hackman" too much. Brian Cox rocks too.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:10 am
by havocSchultz
I vote for dino...


COOLEST.


GEEZER.


EVER.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:16 am
by John-Locke
Peven wrote:oh come on, give Kurt a break, he's not an old man yet. he is probably in better shape and is built better than most dudes half his age too. i voted for Hackman, because as someone already mentioned, the guy never gives a bad performance.


Hey man, I meant no disrespect, everyone was put on the poll because I really dig them, there was no way I wasn't going to put good old Jack Burton on the list, he's 55 in a month which is normally too old to still be playing the action hero roles but he's still going strong and can still play any role despite his age much like a lot of the other geezers on the poll.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:20 am
by Doc Holliday
Using my "Mr-Mainstream-Predicto-Choice" gizmo, I've gone with Pacino.

PHOOO-WARRRR! :wink:

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:20 am
by ThisIsTheGirl
Eastwood makes me feel warm inside....

Does Gary Busey count? Because I love that dude, too....

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:22 am
by JabberJaw
I went with Clint...he has been able to go from action star to doing quality roles that he does now. i love his gruff old godger characters.

Not to mention even when he was old he was still able to pull off a great bad ass western character in the unforgiven.

His performance in Million Dollar Baby was great, and he is a fine director as well..

I also am a fan of Albert Finney

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:29 am
by Peven
John-Locke wrote:
Peven wrote:oh come on, give Kurt a break, he's not an old man yet. he is probably in better shape and is built better than most dudes half his age too. i voted for Hackman, because as someone already mentioned, the guy never gives a bad performance.


Hey man, I meant no disrespect, everyone was put on the poll because I really dig them, there was no way I wasn't going to put good old Jack Burton on the list, he's 55 in a month which is normally too old to still be playing the action hero roles but he's still going strong and can still play any role despite his age much like a lot of the other geezers on the poll.


yeah, i know you weren't trying to diss Kurt, it just struck me as strange seeing his name up there with all those genuine old geezers. :wink:

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:39 pm
by minstrel
Hmmm. I don't normally think of guys like Kurt Russell, Ed Harris, and Al Pacino as geezers. Even Pacino. They don't play many "old man" roles.

I'm definitely a Hackman fan, like others here. His performance in Unforgiven is tremendous.

Why isn't Paul Newman on the list? He was a great geezer in "Road to Perdition".

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:47 pm
by Peven
minstrel wrote:Hmmm. I don't normally think of guys like Kurt Russell, Ed Harris, and Al Pacino as geezers. Even Pacino. They don't play many "old man" roles.

I'm definitely a Hackman fan, like others here. His performance in Unforgiven is tremendous.

Why isn't Paul Newman on the list? He was a great geezer in "Road to Perdition".


i think Newman's best "old geezer" role is in "Nobody's Fool". great stuff, great movie

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:00 pm
by Lady Sheridan
It was tough, but I went with Kurt Russell. His turn in Miracle was wonderful, and he's just so much fun.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:00 pm
by HollywoodBabylon
Peven wrote:
minstrel wrote:Hmmm. I don't normally think of guys like Kurt Russell, Ed Harris, and Al Pacino as geezers. Even Pacino. They don't play many "old man" roles.

I'm definitely a Hackman fan, like others here. His performance in Unforgiven is tremendous.

Why isn't Paul Newman on the list? He was a great geezer in "Road to Perdition".


i think Newman's best "old geezer" role is in "Nobody's Fool". great stuff, great movie


Ditto. Newman has handled the latter part of his career with grace and dignity and, at near 80, looks in remarkably good shape.
Same with Hackman, though his ludicrous defrocked priest performance in 'The Poseidon Adventure' was as over the top as Shelly Winters' Orca the Whale impersonation in the same flim.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:45 pm
by CthulhuKid
I went with Ed Harris. Lyra's argument of not being a Charicature aside (whis I whole heartedly agree with), he's just so damn intense. I just caught "The Third Miracle" on IFC last week. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0174268/ He was amazing! He plays a Catholic Priest who investigates the miracles of potential Saints, but at the same time questions his own faith and commitment to the church. It was unbelievable.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 3:59 pm
by minstrel
While (as I said above) I don't consider Ed Harris a "geezer", he is definitely one of my favorite actors. That coiled-spring intensity of his just rules - he effortlessly comes across as someone really dangerous. He's one of the most compelling presences in movies today.

Why doesn't he have an Oscar yet?

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 4:53 pm
by Brocktune
i too picked ed harris. i dont know why, but he is just so good and captivating in everything.

i wouldve voted for alan arkin, if he was on the list. who doesnt love arkin? im their fathah, im their fathah.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 11:54 am
by lyra belacqua
Peven wrote:
minstrel wrote:Hmmm. I don't normally think of guys like Kurt Russell, Ed Harris, and Al Pacino as geezers. Even Pacino. They don't play many "old man" roles.

I'm definitely a Hackman fan, like others here. His performance in Unforgiven is tremendous.

Why isn't Paul Newman on the list? He was a great geezer in "Road to Perdition".


i think Newman's best "old geezer" role is in "Nobody's Fool". great stuff, great movie


Nobody's Fool is one of my top 5 movies ever! (That is, if I ever had to force myself to list my favorite movies. It's just too hard.) Paul Newman is a god, that's why he's not on a list of "geezers."

PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 11:57 am
by ZombieZoneSolutions
All these geezers are of a most excellent vintage. Although Clint Eastwood is by far the coolest, I chose Christopher Lee because he has the coolest voice.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 12:47 pm
by John-Locke
minstrel wrote:While (as I said above) I don't consider Ed Harris a "geezer", he is definitely one of my favorite actors. That coiled-spring intensity of his just rules - he effortlessly comes across as someone really dangerous. He's one of the most compelling presences in movies today.

Why doesn't he have an Oscar yet?


Just so you know Minstrel, I'm in the UK and Geezer doesn't have the same negative conotations as I now realise it does over the pond. A geezer is usually a cool dude who's just a little bit old, not geriatric, I think when I started this thread two thirds of a year ago I was trying to get a conversation going about how us fans seem to respond most to men of a certain age who carry themselves in a certain way, Eastwood, Harris, Hackman, Russell etc all have a kind of gravity to them when they appear on film, you can't take your eyes off them and they make growing old look cool. I think most of those dudes on the list are probably my favourite actors period and I get the feeling I'm not alone in this, so why is it that over the years all the greats have managed to have the best parts of their careers in the last summer and Autumns of thier lives yet nowdays there is too much negative emphasis put on growing old with stars going under the knife in fear of looking old (Gibson looks like he's had some work done for instance).

Sorry I'm rambling.

I'll stop now.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 2:49 pm
by cinephile2000
Clint Eastwood man he was The Man of the seventies.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 3:15 pm
by RockyDennis
Donald Sutherland needs to be on the list. He's the best of them, but if I need to choose than I would pick, Gene Hackman, but I think Pacino will be great if he keeps going for another 15 years. I'd love to see him play the crazy old eighty year old.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 3:18 pm
by minstrel
John-Locke wrote:
minstrel wrote:While (as I said above) I don't consider Ed Harris a "geezer", he is definitely one of my favorite actors. That coiled-spring intensity of his just rules - he effortlessly comes across as someone really dangerous. He's one of the most compelling presences in movies today.

Why doesn't he have an Oscar yet?


Just so you know Minstrel, I'm in the UK and Geezer doesn't have the same negative conotations as I now realise it does over the pond. A geezer is usually a cool dude who's just a little bit old, not geriatric, I think when I started this thread two thirds of a year ago I was trying to get a conversation going about how us fans seem to respond most to men of a certain age who carry themselves in a certain way, Eastwood, Harris, Hackman, Russell etc all have a kind of gravity to them when they appear on film, you can't take your eyes off them and they make growing old look cool. I think most of those dudes on the list are probably my favourite actors period and I get the feeling I'm not alone in this, so why is it that over the years all the greats have managed to have the best parts of their careers in the last summer and Autumns of thier lives yet nowdays there is too much negative emphasis put on growing old with stars going under the knife in fear of looking old (Gibson looks like he's had some work done for instance).

Sorry I'm rambling.

I'll stop now.


Thanks for the explanation. Where I come from (California by way of Canada) "geezer" has a strong negative connotation - very old, doddering, slightly senile, curmudgeonly. "Cool" isn't a word I normally associate with "geezer".

You make a very good point here. Lots of actors are at the tops of their games late in their lives, and there seem to be lots of good roles for them, too. Maybe these actors don't get many action-hero parts anymore, but they still seem to get voted "Sexiest Man Alive" by various magazines fairly regularly. So why the premium put on youth?

I'm actually looking forward to the work some actors who are young now will do later in life. I'd love to see Edward Norton at the age of 60 or so - he's very smart and intense, and if he loses that boyishness in his voice and gets a few wrinkles, he'll be a very commanding presence.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 3:33 pm
by Doc Holliday
Wow. Just my one vote for Pacino eh?

I guess he's in danger a bit of playing caricatures of himself when you think of his more outlandish roles...there are under (sometimes even "Over") tones of Devils Advocate in much of his later work (Any Given Sunday...AKA The Devil Does NFL).

But he does mix it up I think....his role in HEAT was different to his Sea of Love cop....Scent of a Woman......Insomnia again a cop, but IMO again enough of a different riff on the same theme - yes, I'm looking at YOU De Niro. The Insider, Donnie Brasco, Carlito's Way, his role in that made for TV special about Angels....I understand this is a best old geezer thread, not best actor ever...but I thought he might sneak a few honourable mentions if not votes, given his work to date?

This mean people not liking Pacino so much? And who did OUR Pacino vote for eh?

SHOCKING! :wink:

PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 3:54 pm
by minstrel
I love Pacino, especially "The Insider". I just don't think of him as really in the "geezer" category, but that requires another look, now that John-Locke clarified what he meant.

I think the issue is the kind of roles he does. Maybe it's because he's a major star, but he takes lead parts that could be played by younger actors - there isn't much in the part that requires age. Actually, I haven't seen much of his recent stuff other than Insomnia, so I'm probably full of shit. Anyway, guys like Hackman and Harris seem to play parts that fit their ages. Maybe that's all they get offered, but still, there it is.

My point is that this may be an issue of career management. If Pacino were willing to take a supporting role in a film, one that suits his age, rather than a lead role that requires him to pretend to be 20 years younger than he is, he's get more votes here.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 8:27 pm
by The Garbage Man
Jack Palance.

From IMDb:

Few people know that veteran movie actor Jack Palance was a professional heavyweight boxer in the early 1940s. Fighting under the name Jack Brazzo, Palance a product of Lattimer Mines, Pennsylvania, won his first 15 fights, 12 by knockout before losing a 4th round decision to future heavyweight contender Joe Baksi on Dec. 17, 1940. With the outbreak of World War II, Jack Palance's boxing career ended and his military career began. Wounded in combat, he received the purple heart, good conduct medal, and the World War II Victory Medal. After the war he began his long and famous motion picture career.

While an understudy to Marlon Brando in the Broadway production of "A Streetcar Named Desire," Brando, who was into athletics, rigged up a punching bag in the theater's boiler room and invited Jack to work out with him. One night, Jack threw a hard punch that missed the bag and landed square on Brando's nose. The star had to be hospitalized and understudy Palance created his own big break by going on for Brando. Jack's reviews as Stanley Kowalski helped get him a 20th Century-Fox contract.

Despite all of his film work, Palance will forever be remembered for turning an Oscar acceptance speech into an uproarious display of his physical agility. While accepting his Oscar for Best Supporting Actor for City Slickers (1991) at the 64th Annual Academy Awards (1992) he stumbled through a half-hearted acceptance speech and then, at a loss for anything else to say, flopped down on the floor and began doing a series of one-handed push-ups. Afterwards when he was asked about the stunt he simply said, "I didn't know what the hell else to do".


Jack Palance and my grandfather are the two men who will forever define the term "grizzled badass" for me.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 8:36 pm
by Kilgore
What...no Wilford Brimley? What gives?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 8:40 pm
by Brocktune
he doesnt count, as hes given up acting, to coach the seattle seahawks.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 9:10 pm
by John-Locke
The Garbage Man wrote:Jack Palance.

From IMDb:

Few people know that veteran movie actor Jack Palance was a professional heavyweight boxer in the early 1940s. Fighting under the name Jack Brazzo, Palance a product of Lattimer Mines, Pennsylvania, won his first 15 fights, 12 by knockout before losing a 4th round decision to future heavyweight contender Joe Baksi on Dec. 17, 1940. With the outbreak of World War II, Jack Palance's boxing career ended and his military career began. Wounded in combat, he received the purple heart, good conduct medal, and the World War II Victory Medal. After the war he began his long and famous motion picture career.

While an understudy to Marlon Brando in the Broadway production of "A Streetcar Named Desire," Brando, who was into athletics, rigged up a punching bag in the theater's boiler room and invited Jack to work out with him. One night, Jack threw a hard punch that missed the bag and landed square on Brando's nose. The star had to be hospitalized and understudy Palance created his own big break by going on for Brando. Jack's reviews as Stanley Kowalski helped get him a 20th Century-Fox contract.

Despite all of his film work, Palance will forever be remembered for turning an Oscar acceptance speech into an uproarious display of his physical agility. While accepting his Oscar for Best Supporting Actor for City Slickers (1991) at the 64th Annual Academy Awards (1992) he stumbled through a half-hearted acceptance speech and then, at a loss for anything else to say, flopped down on the floor and began doing a series of one-handed push-ups. Afterwards when he was asked about the stunt he simply said, "I didn't know what the hell else to do".


Jack Palance and my grandfather are the two men who will forever define the term "grizzled badass" for me.


KICK ASS

I would have put him on the poll if he was still alive, maybe we should start a poll for the all time screen badasses, Palance, Eastwood, Bronson etc, no matrial artists cos thats unfair and would quickly turn into another who would win out of Bruce Lee and ...

PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 9:25 pm
by Kilgore
That's a fine idea for a poll, JL, just make sure Robert Mitchum is on it...

Favorite Mitchum line ever, when asked by an interviewer how it was he was such a big actor when he had never taken an acting class: 'What would I do that for, isn't that like taking classes to be taller?'

PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 9:33 pm
by John-Locke
Start the thread then Kilgore, sometimes if you are scratching your head for people to put on the poll it's better to ask for suggestions first and add the poll later, that way you don't get as many people telling you great options that you left off. You won't want to use every suggestion though, some folks have got silly ideas *cough*KIRK*cough* ;)

PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 9:42 pm
by The Garbage Man
John-Locke wrote:KICK ASS

I would have put him on the poll if he was still alive, maybe we should start a poll for the all time screen badasses, Palance, Eastwood, Bronson etc, no matrial artists cos thats unfair and would quickly turn into another who would win out of Bruce Lee and ...


Jack Palance is still alive, AFAIK. I like the idea for that thread, though.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 9:56 pm
by John-Locke
Sheeeeeet, I honestly thought City Slickers 2 was his last film, sorry, maybe that explains why he isn't getting enough work maybe I'm not the only one who thought he was dead.

On the plus side at least he's still alive :)

GO JACK!

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:52 am
by Ribbons
Doc Holliday wrote:Wow. Just my one vote for Pacino eh?

I guess he's in danger a bit of playing caricatures of himself when you think of his more outlandish roles... But he does mix it up I think....his role in HEAT was different to his Sea of Love cop....Scent of a Woman......Insomnia again a cop, but IMO again enough of a different riff on the same theme - yes, I'm looking at YOU De Niro.


Oh yeah. His performance in Insomnia is very underrated, in my opinion. Maybe it's just the way he talks and looks these days, but he wears the spiritual and physical weariness on his sleeve.

I went with Brian Cox, who manages to find interesting roles with a lot of range even though he's no longer young enough to be the star.