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Regarding the almighty Affleck

PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 10:01 pm
by Crayotic Rockwell
Is it just me or is his Ben Affleck persona more interesting than any of the characters he winds up playing onscreen?

I know he gets a fair bit of shit, but in all the interviews, commentaries, and other candid media I've seen/heard of him he's got that whole Vince Vaughn'esque Likeable Grinning Asshole (tm) aire to him, whereas in most movies he plays Likeable Piece Of Cardboard (tm) (Goodwill Hunting being an exception off the top of my head). It don't seem logical.

If John Woo let Affleck run adlibs throughout PAYCHECK it could have pulled 400 million at the boxoffice!

Something for all of us to think about, I think.

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Fact: Putting this man on "Whose Line Is It Anyway"
will send ratings through the roof

PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 10:09 pm
by athenabodicea
Well I think he looks better hiding his buttchin with the goatee...


I dunno... Ben Affleck just gets on my nerves...

PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 10:17 pm
by Adam Balm
Man he looks like Ultimate Tony Stark right there. Scary.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 10:27 pm
by King Psyz
DO NOT give the man any ideas...

shit too late, coming 2008 Ben Affleck as...IRON MAN
featuring a completely different story with nearly no relation to the Iron Man the world loves and a total redesign of the classic vissage of Iron Man!

PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 10:40 pm
by Cpt Kirks 2pay
Personally I just think he's a gentleman.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 10:45 pm
by athenabodicea
Adam Balm wrote:Man he looks like Ultimate Tony Stark right there. Scary.


Ipampilash!!!!
I am Iron Man... We'll have to remember that if they ever make the movie...


Has he lost his mind can he see or is he blind.... (Black Sabbath)...lol

PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 10:54 pm
by freak2thec0re
He should play more characters like his in Dazed and Confused

PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 11:14 pm
by Cpt Kirks 2pay
He should just F*ck Off!

PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 4:53 pm
by El Scorcho
Ben Affleck = douche

Ben Affleck acting = trainwreck

Take your pick.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 9:08 pm
by brainiac
I like him too. He seems like a real guy and not a big "star". I even like most of his movies.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 9:37 pm
by Cpt Kirks 2pay
brainiac wrote:I like him too. He seems like a real guy and not a big "star".


That's why when he broke down in his car with JLo he was going up to every car in the street and saying, "Please help us, we're celebrities."

Something along those lines anyway. I remember reading an article about this a couple of years ago.

Anyway, most stars try not to act like stars these days. I'm not buying any of it.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 9:48 pm
by Crayotic Rockwell
That's why when he broke down in his car with JLo he was going up to every car in the street and saying, "Please help us, we're celebrities."


heh c'mon.. that just fits into his funny asshole persona :)

PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 9:53 pm
by Cpt Kirks 2pay
No it doesn't!!

Now I mean the following in the most serious, sincere and genuine, profound way.





























It just makes him a gentleman.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 9:58 pm
by Crayotic Rockwell
hah, you damn conservative (no word change)

PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 10:01 pm
by Cpt Kirks 2pay
Oh come on now please! We all know that Ben Affleck is a poor man's Freddie Prinze Jr.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 10:05 pm
by Seppuku
Is there such a thing as a poor man's Freddie Prinze Jnr?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 10:06 pm
by Crayotic Rockwell
ooooh, no you di'nt just!

Benjamin may not be high rolling, but we all know Freddie Prinze Jr. is an all new poverty line unto himself

PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 10:13 pm
by Cpt Kirks 2pay
All his life, Ben Affleck has been looking up to the stars wishing he was Fred.

His whole career of treading the boards has been based on recieving the Freddie Prinze Jr Lifetime Achievment Award For Outstanding Carboardness Contribution To Film.

I was gonna say more, but a sudden memory of my hairdresser in New Zealand who I fancied but didn't return the favour, has made me weak with heartbreak and unable to write further.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 2:09 am
by Nachokoolaid
He was the fucking bomb in PHANTOMS, yo.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 2:14 am
by DirtyRatBastard
I'm sure Affleck is a fine human being, kind to animals, a good husband and father.

However, his aura emits Douchebag.

This being said, I feel that if he was allowed to be more of a douche in films ala Dazed and Confused, and Mallrats, his acting stock would rise.

We all came to love Chris Walken because he was an evil creepy fuck in his films.

We all stood up for Oldman because he cornered the market on deranged edgy psychos.

I feel that if Affleck were allowed to let his douchebag flag fly, instead of playing the everyman we are supposed to like, then as lovers of film, we will grow to appreciate him more.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:59 am
by HoodedAvenger
Nachokoolaid wrote:He was the fucking bomb in PHANTOMS, yo.


Phantoms like a motherfucker y'all

PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 6:47 am
by Cpt Kirks 2pay
DirtyRatBastard wrote:I'm sure Affleck is a fine human being, kind to animals, a good husband and father.

However, his aura emits Douchebag.

This being said, I feel that if he was allowed to be more of a douche in films ala Dazed and Confused, and Mallrats, his acting stock would rise.

We all came to love Chris Walken because he was an evil creepy fuck in his films.

We all stood up for Oldman because he cornered the market on deranged edgy psychos.

I feel that if Affleck were allowed to let his douchebag flag fly, instead of playing the everyman we are supposed to like, then as lovers of film, we will grow to appreciate him more.


I can see the headlines now, "Ben Affleck IS Forrest Gump!"

PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 9:31 am
by dark wesley
i have watched daredevil 20 times.
i dont know why.
each time i say that is the last time i will go back to that piece of shit film, but it appears that i cannot.
have you heard the directors commentry on daredevil, it's the bomb!
affleck, ive liked him in films like good will hunting, should of never of been in daredevil though.

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 2:32 pm
by godzillasushi
He's not so bad. Not at all. I really liked Chasing Amy and I thought he was really good in that. I think he's a solid actor that happens to be easy to rail on. Everyone points him out as a negative when it really isn't.

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 2:39 pm
by Nordling
Affleck is a smart, smart man. Listen to him talk about politics. I'd vote for him.

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 2:42 pm
by Maui
He's alright. He was fairly decent in "Changing Lanes" with Samuel L. Jackson. Now Samuel L, that's an actor I'd go see at the box office - Ben most likely not. I just find his acting so so and he just always appears bland on the big screen.

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 3:45 pm
by Fievel
Nordling wrote:Affleck is a smart, smart man. Listen to him talk about politics. I'd vote for him.


He surprises me every time he's on Real Time With Bill Maher - in a good way.

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 4:33 pm
by minstrel
Fievel wrote:
Nordling wrote:Affleck is a smart, smart man. Listen to him talk about politics. I'd vote for him.


He surprises me every time he's on Real Time With Bill Maher - in a good way.


I saw him on Real Time a few weeks ago. He definitely impressed me.

PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 2:21 am
by Seppuku
Reposting from locked thread:

slumber party69 wrote:Once, it seemed the world was at his feet. He and his best friend Matt Damon wrote and starred in Good Will Hunting. Their reward was a Best Screenplay Oscar and a passport to an A-list acting career in Hollywood.

Damon's reputation took off, but Affleck had a knack of picking dud flicks; Pearl Harbor, Armageddon and Daredevil are on his CV.

But the real opprobrium began when the actor started dating Jennifer Lopez, and people chose to forget that Affleck had shown his acting qualities in several films by Kevin Smith, Shakespeare in Love and Richard Linklater's teen classic Dazed and Confused.

The adventures of "Bennifer" were a staple in the media.

The couple even insisted on acting together - the resulting film, Gigli, was panned and quickly gained a reputation as one of the worst films in history.

When their relationship hit the rocks, Smith even thought it prudent to cut scenes of the couple getting married from his ill-received comedy Jersey Girl.

It seemed that everything Affleck touched turned into box-office poison.

But i like to think he has bounce back thanks to gone baby gone?.


Tyrone_Shoelaces wrote:I've forgiven Affleck for everything.

Everything but the stealing Jennifer Garner from me thing.


RogueScribner wrote:Affleck just didn't know when to say no. Damon had better luck choosing his projects, going for quality over quantity ($$$) and eventually that parlayed into him having a booming career. Affleck can get back on top, but I think he's over the whole star thing.


Heh, I could get used to this...

PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 3:24 am
by King Psyz
King Psyz wrote:DO NOT give the man any ideas...

shit too late, coming 2008 Ben Affleck as...IRON MAN
featuring a completely different story with nearly no relation to the Iron Man the world loves and a total redesign of the classic vissage of Iron Man!


well at least I got the year right...

PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 3:29 am
by travis-dane
I love the DC of DareDevil.....

Regarding the almighty Affleck

PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 5:46 am
by bastard_robo
Affleck get way too much shit.

The man is a good actor. Hell, apparently he's even a decent director.

And as it was stated in Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back

"you do the paycheck movie, then you do the artsy movie, then you do the movie to pay back the guy who helped you get your start"

or something like that.


Fuck it, I'm tired right now. I have to be up in 2 hrs.

PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 11:52 am
by papalazeru
...and Mathew McConauhey is still better than Ben.

Re: Regarding the almighty Affleck

PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 11:55 am
by papalazeru
bastard_robo wrote:"you do the paycheck movie, then you do the artsy movie, then you do the movie to pay back the guy who helped you get your start"


I think that sentence is structured wrong, I think what he meant to say was,

"You do the movie Paycheck, then you do the guy who helped you start and you get no more movie work and it's back to the start"

PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 12:04 pm
by Chairman Kaga
King Psyz wrote:
King Psyz wrote:DO NOT give the man any ideas...

shit too late, coming 2008 Ben Affleck as...IRON MAN
featuring a completely different story with nearly no relation to the Iron Man the world loves and a total redesign of the classic vissage of Iron Man!


well at least I got the year right...


Affleck missed the boat.

PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 12:09 pm
by Fried Gold
For quite a while Ben Affleck was emitting high energy waves in the smug bastard frequency range.

He seemed to be in lots of high budget, low quality films but failed to balance things out with some appearances in films with a stronger integrity....so people got sick of him.

I mean Matt Damon was able to a Farrelly Brother flick, a Eurotrip cameo, three dire Ocean movies and still came out unscathed. Because he maintained a balance in the movie force - Brother Grimm, Syriana, Bourne, Good Shepherd, The Departed etc etc.

Afflect almost got there with Hollywoodland, except it seems hardly anyone saw it.

PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 12:21 pm
by DennisMM
I think Affleck is best at light comedy and light drama. Certainly not a heavy hitter in either genre. Personally he seems like an ass, but as others have said, when he's pushed into a serious discussion his smarts and sophistication show.

PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 12:32 pm
by Chairman Kaga
Is no one checking my Iron Man knockoff link?

PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 12:35 pm
by King Psyz
OH I DID

I'm speachless... well at least the credit for trying I guess.

PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 2:25 pm
by so sorry
Hasn't the knock on Ben been that he was riding damon's coattails in the beginning?

I'm having a flashback of a funny Family Guy bit where Matt and Ben are writing Good Will Hunting...

http://www.itsfunnyhoney.com/video/225/good_will_hunting

or

http://thatvideosite.com/video/1901

PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 3:02 pm
by DennisMM
Chairman Kaga wrote:Is no one checking my Iron Man knockoff link?


I have no idea what to say about that. Iron Man meets Bio-Booster Armor Guyver meets the comic The Coffin?

PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 3:03 pm
by DennisMM
so sorry wrote:Hasn't the knock on Ben been that he was riding damon's coattails in the beginning?

I'm having a flashback of a funny Family Guy bit where Matt and Ben are writing Good Will Hunting...

http://www.itsfunnyhoney.com/video/225/good_will_hunting

or

http://thatvideosite.com/video/1901


Shouldn't the funny bit be where the studio chiefs chuckle and hand the script to William Goldman for a complete but uncredited rewrite?

PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 3:06 pm
by WinslowLeach
Casey Affleck is cool! Great topic!

PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 6:17 pm
by minstrel
DennisMM wrote:I think Affleck is best at light comedy and light drama. Certainly not a heavy hitter in either genre.


I agree. I read a review of Daredevil once (I forget who the reviewer was) and it said (I'm paraphrasing): "Daredevil is supposed to be a character who seethes with inner torment, and there isn't an actor in Hollywood who seethes with inner torment less than Ben Affleck."

I think that's on the money. The guy comes across as someone who doesn't have much going on emotionally in real life, so he's got very little to draw on in his performances.

PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 6:21 pm
by pyramidsfan
Give the man a chance. All he needs is the right script and the right director. Changing Lanes showed this, hopefully his next project will prove it.... :D

PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 6:22 pm
by Peven
minstrel wrote:
DennisMM wrote:I think Affleck is best at light comedy and light drama. Certainly not a heavy hitter in either genre.


I agree. I read a review of Daredevil once (I forget who the reviewer was) and it said (I'm paraphrasing): "Daredevil is supposed to be a character who seethes with inner torment, and there isn't an actor in Hollywood who seethes with inner torment less than Ben Affleck."

I think that's on the money. The guy comes across as someone who doesn't have much going on emotionally in real life, so he's got very little to draw on in his performances.


see, this is a great example of perspective, because i strongly disagree there. i think he comes across very real and genuine.

plus, as someone who owns the Frank Miller run of DD i think that review you read was written by someone who probably hadn't read them......

PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 7:48 pm
by papalazeru
I couldn't check out that trailer earlier but now I'm home...It's awful.

What a wonderful film.

Got to love the terrible.

PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 8:55 pm
by slumber party69
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Regarding the almighty Affleck

PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 11:13 pm
by bastard_robo
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Affleck was the BOMB in Phantoms YO!

PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 6:40 am
by RogueScribner
pyramidsfan wrote:Give the man a chance. All he needs is the right script and the right director. Changing Lanes showed this, hopefully his next project will prove it.... :D


I really liked that movie and I thought he did a good job with The Sum of All Fears as well. I was hoping he'd have a new franchise with that, but I guess it was not to be.