80's Comedy Face-off - Round Six: Richard Pryor

Discuss all the finest actors, living or dead -- their films, their talents, and their weird, drug-related escapades.

No Wonka for me thanks - I'M talking about:

Wholly Moses
0
No votes
In God We Tru$t
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No votes
Stir Crazy
7
37%
Bustin Loose
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No votes
Some Kind Of Hero
1
5%
The Toy
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5%
Brewsters Millions
3
16%
Critical Condition
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No votes
Moving
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5%
See No Evil, Hear no Evil
4
21%
Harlem Nights
2
11%
 
Total votes : 19

80's Comedy Face-off - Round Six: Richard Pryor

Postby Doc Holliday on Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:09 am

Another day, anothe round of the face-off. Up today is the guy most often referenced by those that came after him. Without Richard Pryor there may not even have been an Eddie Murphy. Although his end was horribly tragic - a mixture of genuine illness and a legacy of the drugs he bombarded hiimself with through the seventies and early eighties - the attached list shows many of his key performances. As the Wilder and Pryor double act stepped out of the seventies and into the eighties, it was Pryor who became the more prolific and his work provides the longest poll yet.

Another poll, another 'grey area' - no I haven't put Superman III on there. I want to, but I've strung myself up with my own logic, the same logic that I used to exclude WHERE THE BUFFALO ROAM from Bill Murray's poll. On that thread it made sense - on this thread I feel a bit undone by it.

Fortunately there are several other key performances up there - so if you find yourself missing you your Gus, try and console yourself with one of the other choices instead - some of them are complete gems.

I've talked about HARLEM NIGHTS on the earlier Ediie Murphy round (kudos Winslow) - I want to see that film again...I suspect its one of those that gets better and better with each viewing. BREWSTERS MILLIONS was a classic - I missed it at the cinema and wanted to hire it out on VHS to catch up on what I was missing. This was back in pre-Blockbuster days though - and here in the YUK at least every town had just the one measly shop - invariably a couple of shelves in a pre-existing Newsagent - that served as the Video Rental store. Consequently there'd be only one copy of each film to hire - and its a measure of BREWSTER back in its pomp that it was a full two years and more before I was finally able to hire it out.

It was certainly worth the wait.

STIR CRAZY was the first ever Pryor/Wilder collaboration I ever saw. I hired it out on one of the occasions I'd failed to get BREWSTERS, purely on the strength of Pryor alone - and I had tears coming out of my eyes with laughter within minutes. I don't think I shall ever forget those giant bird costumes alone! And oh man - Grossburger..too funny. I felt genuinely uplifted at the end as well (aw, gimme a break - I must have been, like, ten or something).

But I can feel Dino already, glaring in my direction "You a supposed to be voting for the performance eh not a the film you PUTZ!"

And you know what - Dino is right. This is a poll about the actors performance, not which film you remember most fondly - and for that reason I'm voting for SEE NO EVIL HEAR NO EVIL. Just brilliant, brilliant fun - nonsense comedy. The years Pryor and Wilder had known each other are all on display here - undoubtedley they raised each others game - and the physical comedy on offer, whilst not being on a level of the true greats, still makes me burst out laughing when I see it.

And if that's not enough for y'all - its a good chance to spot a at-the-time-as-yet-largely-unknown Kevin Spacey hamming it up more than a dozen Lex's can shake their kryptonite at.

but enough from me already - gimme your votes - DOC'S GOTTA EAT!
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Postby thebostonlocksmith on Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:15 am

I went with see no evil hear no evil. Not because it's the best made movie of the others just because i have the fondest memories of it...

Love the scene where Richard Pryor is shouting in Gene Wilder's ear to establish if he really is deaf and gene Wilder says..

"No wait, i think i could hear something..."

"Really?"

"No.... I'm fucking deaf..."

and the scene on the train where his sister breaks it to him that he's black... and the scene where he helps the blind lady cross the street...

Loads of scenes are now rushing back to me... i love this film... but that's just me...
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Postby John-Locke on Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:32 am

Sheeeeeeit, I thought Stir Crazy was a 70's film but it's not so it gets my vote.
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Postby Doc Holliday on Fri Feb 16, 2007 10:03 am

Yowsers - showing my age with this round I guess. I'm certainly more comfortable with the idea most Zoners are too young to remember Pryor than I am with the alternative, that being people remember him but don't care for his work :shock:

Hmm - maybe when America wakes up ina couple of hours, then this thread will catch on...or maybe I've just misjudged Pryor's significance.
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Postby MonkeyM666 on Fri Feb 16, 2007 10:05 am

I hate to say it Doc but I just haven't seen most of these. The Toy, Hear no evil, and Brewsters Millions is about it so I can't really vote with such a lack in knowlage on the topic.

I did really like Hear no evil, see no evil. Gene Wilder is one of my favourite actors.
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Postby tapehead on Fri Feb 16, 2007 10:08 am

Stir Crazy - just 'cos it's so nutty and buck-wild. It remains a very sad thing to me that Pryor was too fucked up to take on 'Blazing Saddles'
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Postby MonkeyM666 on Fri Feb 16, 2007 10:10 am

tapehead wrote:It remains a very sad thing to me that Pryor was too fucked up to take on 'Blazing Saddles'



:shock: Really???? I never knew that... that would have been great if it had happened!
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Postby havocSchultz on Fri Feb 16, 2007 10:12 am

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I fucking loved Moving as a child...

But I would probably have to go with See No...Hear No...just because it's probably the first Pryor film I remember seeing...and I thought it was so utterly fucking funny and vulgar...

"Say the first word that comes to mind..."

"PUSSY!"

And I was lucky to have my parents allow me to watch it...
If it wasn't one of the big 80's Action Icons blowing people up to accompany their vulgarity - then I usually wasn't allowed to watch it...

But for me - cause alas - I haven't seen too many of them and/or just can't really remember them becuase I haven't seen them in awhile - See No...gets my vote...

But Moving was a damn funny film in some scenes...

"They even took the pool...?!?!"
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Postby so sorry on Fri Feb 16, 2007 10:16 am

I've seen very few of these, so my choices are limited.

I was never a Prior fan, though I do get his significance in the comedy world yadda yadda yadda.
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Postby Doc Holliday on Fri Feb 16, 2007 10:24 am

MonkeyM666 wrote:I hate to say it Doc but I just haven't seen most of these. The Toy, Hear no evil, and Brewsters Millions is about it so I can't really vote with such a lack in knowlage on the topic.

I did really like Hear no evil, see no evil. Gene Wilder is one of my favourite actors.


Damn - my bad then. Still, only two more rounds to go and soemthing tells me they'll both recapture the momentum yesterday's round gave us.

As for Wilder, I was all set to include him in this series - but a cursory check of IMDB made me realise the 80's weren't really his decade - most of his classics came in the 70's.

So no represent for the permed one :cry:
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Postby MonkeyM666 on Fri Feb 16, 2007 10:26 am

DAMN!


I must say, I'm loving these threads. Very nice work Doc... they're creating great discussions and debate.
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Postby Doc Holliday on Fri Feb 16, 2007 10:28 am

Cheers buddy - its less about the poll and more about remembering all these performers and the classics they gave us.

The polls just a bonus - but don't tell Dino I said that :lol:
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Postby Nachokoolaid on Fri Feb 16, 2007 10:50 am

MonkeyM666 wrote:
tapehead wrote:It remains a very sad thing to me that Pryor was too fucked up to take on 'Blazing Saddles'



:shock: Really???? I never knew that... that would have been great if it had happened!


Yeah, he actually helped Brooks write it. They wanted him to play it, but he was too unreliable because of his drug use.

I picked See No Evil, Hear No Evil.

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Postby tapehead on Fri Feb 16, 2007 11:10 am

Doc Holliday wrote:
MonkeyM666 wrote:I hate to say it Doc but I just haven't seen most of these. The Toy, Hear no evil, and Brewsters Millions is about it so I can't really vote with such a lack in knowlage on the topic.

I did really like Hear no evil, see no evil. Gene Wilder is one of my favourite actors.


Damn - my bad then. Still, only two more rounds to go and soemthing tells me they'll both recapture the momentum yesterday's round gave us.

As for Wilder, I was all set to include him in this series - but a cursory check of IMDB made me realise the 80's weren't really his decade - most of his classics came in the 70's.

So no represent for the permed one :cry:


These threads are all about the home video revolution as well - watching these movies on vhs - there all '80's flicks' from that perspective for me.
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Postby HollywoodBabylon on Fri Feb 16, 2007 11:25 am

MonkeyM666 wrote:I hate to say it Doc but I just haven't seen most of these. The Toy, Hear no evil, and Brewsters Millions is about it so I can't really vote with such a lack in knowlage on the topic.



Me too. Brewsters Millions and Stir Crazy is all I've seen, though I have seen Pryor's stand-up performance on tape and he was dynamic and very, very funny. There was also a pretty good BBC documentry on him not so long back. Well worth catching if repeated.
Anyhow, Stir Crazy would get my vote out the two I've seen.
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Postby Vegeta on Fri Feb 16, 2007 11:26 am

Had to go with Stir Crazy... freaking hysterical.

Although, I do remember something in See no Evil where they were about to be killed and some woman asks if they have any last requests, and Pryor requests a blowjob.
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Postby thebostonlocksmith on Fri Feb 16, 2007 11:27 am

Vegeta wrote:Had to go with Stir Crazy... freaking hysterical.

Although, I do remember something in See no Evil where they were about to be killed and some woman asks if they have any last requests, and Pryor requests a blowjob.


that made me laugh out load at work.... It's ok though, i work by myself...
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Postby papalazeru on Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:40 pm

WHERE THE FUCK IS SUPERMAN 3?
Papa: The musical!

Padders: "Not very classy! Not very classy at all!"
So Sorry "I'll give you a word to describe it: classless."
Cptn Kirks 2pay: ".....utterly unclassy....."
DennisMM: "...Decidedly unclassy..."
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Postby tapehead on Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:41 pm

Doc kinda mentions in the first post why he didn't include it - fair enough reasoning too, although he is the best thing in the movie, and quite funny.
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Postby papalazeru on Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:12 pm

tapehead wrote:Doc kinda mentions in the first post why he didn't include it - fair enough reasoning too, although he is the best thing in the movie, and quite funny.


I know....I just wanted to shout about it tape.

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Papa: The musical!

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Postby tapehead on Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:13 pm

of course mate - carry on :lol:
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Postby Doc Holliday on Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:16 pm

papalazeru wrote:
tapehead wrote:Doc kinda mentions in the first post why he didn't include it - fair enough reasoning too, although he is the best thing in the movie, and quite funny.


I know....I just wanted to shout about it tape.

:lol:


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Oh, damn, that's right - I'm just a gimp sitting at his desk and not, in actual fact, an Emperor.

Dammit.
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Postby havocSchultz on Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:17 pm

Doc Holliday wrote:
papalazeru wrote:
tapehead wrote:Doc kinda mentions in the first post why he didn't include it - fair enough reasoning too, although he is the best thing in the movie, and quite funny.


I know....I just wanted to shout about it tape.

:lol:


Instigator!

GUARDS!

Oh, damn, that's right - I'm just a gimp sitting at his desk and not, in actual fact, an Emperor.

Dammit.


What?!?!?!



Then why the fuck am I still on my knees...?!?!?!?
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Postby Louis Walsh on Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:18 pm

havocSchultz wrote:
Doc Holliday wrote:
papalazeru wrote:
tapehead wrote:Doc kinda mentions in the first post why he didn't include it - fair enough reasoning too, although he is the best thing in the movie, and quite funny.


I know....I just wanted to shout about it tape.

:lol:


Instigator!

GUARDS!

Oh, damn, that's right - I'm just a gimp sitting at his desk and not, in actual fact, an Emperor.

Dammit.


What?!?!?!



Then why the fuck am I still on my knees...?!?!?!?


Don't move!
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Postby burlivesleftnut on Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:28 am

The Toy = Hottest Porno Ever.

And why the fuck isn't Silver Streak on this list?
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Postby Doc Holliday on Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:30 am

Because it was made in the Seventies. I know, I know.....





BAH!
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Postby burlivesleftnut on Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:37 am

Is it really? That surprises me, because I saw it like 100 million times on HBO the summer of 1983. That and Zorro the Dumbledore Blade.
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Postby Doc Holliday on Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:41 am

Yup - Silver Streak got made in 1976. I was suprised too - it was always on TV over here throughout the 80's. And not just in the opening credits of THE FALL GUY either.
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Postby burlivesleftnut on Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:37 am

Hahah, I forgot about that.
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