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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:34 pm
by Cpt Kirks 2pay
Apparently I'm fit for the kid's course!!!

PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:35 pm
by Nordling
Actually, Pitt was excellent in TROY. He played Achilles like a rock star. Those other films you list, he's not bad in those either. He's not phenomenal, but he's not phoning them in.

I hate LEGENDS OF THE FALL with a passion though. It's a goddamn Harlequin with Fabio on the cover.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:40 pm
by Cpt Kirks 2pay
Yeah I agree, he was OK to good to a bit crappy in the films listed. Good point about the Rock Star thing in Troy too.


Spoilers.




















Bastad killed Hector!!!!

PLUS - I SWEAR he had bigger tits than any of the chicks in that movie!!!

PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 6:10 pm
by Maui
Nordling wrote:Actually, Pitt was excellent in TROY. He played Achilles like a rock star.



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:07 pm
by HollywoodBabylon
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:
so sorry wrote:
papalazeru wrote:He's a bit of a bad 'luvvy'. He seems to have claimed fame from 'half acting' rather than someone like River Phoenix, who was pure brilliance. River was like a Kurt Cobain who peaked far to early and left room for idiots like Di Caprio.


You can't judge one actor's whole career over a decade + versus another actor's short-lived one.

River Phoenix never got the chance to accept suckier roles etc (see: Joichim Phoenix).



I dunno. In his shorter span, Phoenix still crammed more emotion, sympathy and down right sensitivity and prospect than Pitt has done in his time thus far.

Sometimes with an actor you can just tell straight away, or if not, within a certain amount of movies. Phoenix proved himself many movies in, such as Running on Empty even, Sidney Lumet or no Sidney Lumet. Brad Pitt after all this time, I'm still on the fence at best. Again, that old saying quality vs quantity, but more importantly, this is all about acting, and so much of that is instinct and feeling. I got more positive vibes from Phoenix that I ever did about Pitt in the same time span.

On the real heavy dramatic scenes, Phoenix was always a natural to me, Pitt was always forced.


Yes, it would've been interesting to see how Phoenix's career would've panned out had he lived. I've only seen him in about 4 films or so and he was pretty affecting in all of them especially Stand By Me and most definitely in My Own Private Idaho. He seems to me to be the precursor to actors like De Caprio and the like - but not Pitt, who maybe is from the Tom Cruise school of acting. That's not a put down but rather there doesn't seem a naturalised talent there. Like Cruise, you can see Pitt's technique at work as he acts on screen; it doesn't seem wholly convincing to me or truthful. It's not that he's bad or even inadequate (infact, both him and Cruise have pulled out some half decent performances); it's just that they're both not instinctive performers in my book. They seem to try too hard at times and it shows.
That said, Pitt's choice of roles are at least a sign of a super-A-list star who's willing to stretch his talent are far as he's able. Which is not a bad thing, I guess.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:43 pm
by Cpt Kirks 2pay
HollywoodBabylon wrote:
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:
so sorry wrote:
papalazeru wrote:He's a bit of a bad 'luvvy'. He seems to have claimed fame from 'half acting' rather than someone like River Phoenix, who was pure brilliance. River was like a Kurt Cobain who peaked far to early and left room for idiots like Di Caprio.


You can't judge one actor's whole career over a decade + versus another actor's short-lived one.

River Phoenix never got the chance to accept suckier roles etc (see: Joichim Phoenix).



I dunno. In his shorter span, Phoenix still crammed more emotion, sympathy and down right sensitivity and prospect than Pitt has done in his time thus far.

Sometimes with an actor you can just tell straight away, or if not, within a certain amount of movies. Phoenix proved himself many movies in, such as Running on Empty even, Sidney Lumet or no Sidney Lumet. Brad Pitt after all this time, I'm still on the fence at best. Again, that old saying quality vs quantity, but more importantly, this is all about acting, and so much of that is instinct and feeling. I got more positive vibes from Phoenix that I ever did about Pitt in the same time span.

On the real heavy dramatic scenes, Phoenix was always a natural to me, Pitt was always forced.


Yes, it would've been interesting to see how Phoenix's career would've panned out had he lived. I've only seen him in about 4 films or so and he was pretty affecting in all of them especially Stand By Me and most definitely in My Own Private Idaho. He seems to me to be the precursor to actors like De Caprio and the like - but not Pitt, who maybe is from the Tom Cruise school of acting. That's not a put down but rather there doesn't seem a naturalised talent there. Like Cruise, you can see Pitt's technique at work as he acts on screen; it doesn't seem wholly convincing to me or truthful. It's not that he's bad or even inadequate (infact, both him and Cruise have pulled out some half decent performances); it's just that they're both not instinctive performers in my book. They seem to try too hard at times and it shows.
That said, Pitt's choice of roles are at least a sign of a super-A-list star who's willing to stretch his talent are far as he's able. Which is not a bad thing, I guess.


Here here!!

Though to tell the truth, you know what? I actually prefer Cruise over Pitt. Say what you want about the guy, but Tom Cruise can be piercing and intense at times, or when he really wants to be. I get more emotion from that guy than I EVER have had from Pitt. At least Cruise can move me when he wants to. Pitt just makes my eyes role when he tries to do a crying scene for example.

Remember that story or rumour that was going about that Brad was approached to replace Tom in the next Mission Impossible movie? Think about it. Who would you really prefer to see carrying that movie?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:39 pm
by minstrel
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:Remember that story or rumour that was going about that Brad was approached to replace Tom in the next Mission Impossible movie? Think about it. Who would you really prefer to see carrying that movie?


Pitt. No question.
In the MI movies, Cruise is in full egomaniac star mode, and I find his "look-at-me-aren't-I great" performances practically unwatchable. The scene in the first one where he's trying to do a magic trick with a floppy disc makes me cringe.

Pitt, I think, would approach the role with a bit more humility. He wouldn't go over-the-top as much, but he shouldn't need to.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:48 pm
by Cpt Kirks 2pay
Then all the Squirrel's of Central Park - SHAAALL DIIIIIIEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:56 pm
by minstrel
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:Then all the Squirrel's of Central Park - SHAAALL DIIIIIIEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And be turned into your 2pays?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:00 pm
by Cpt Kirks 2pay
minstrel wrote:
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:Then all the Squirrel's of Central Park - SHAAALL DIIIIIIEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And be turned into your 2pays?


HAHHAA!!!!

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Damn straight!

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:35 pm
by DaleTremont
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:What's an iHOP?


:shock: My throat just seized up. You poor, poor non-American to have never experienced the wonders of an IHOP. Where on earth do you go before/during/after binge-drinking?

Sorry. I realize I just resurrected the Brad Pitt thread to comment on IHOP. And so I say, Brad Pitt- well done, sir. you're hot so i'll forget the "joe blacks" and the "seven years in tibets..es" and the very worst in terms of performance imo- "the devil's own." i don't know. it seems odd to me that an actor could be so hit and miss. i'm gonna go with the theory that brad follows the "one for me, one for them" mentality but because he's a cool dude he's like, "fuck it if i have to do one for them i'm gonna underact my ass off and deliver stiff lines and stiffer facial expressions....studio kunts.....oh god i'm such a whore..."
or something like that.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:39 pm
by MacCready
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:Then all the Squirrel's of Central Park - SHAAALL DIIIIIIEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Christ, you sounded just like Brian Cox when you said that......

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:57 pm
by Cpt Kirks 2pay
MacCready wrote:
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:Then all the Squirrel's of Central Park - SHAAALL DIIIIIIEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Christ, you sounded just like Brian Cox when you said that......


Er.. yeah! Part of the intention. BUT - funnily enough, not part of the intention was to link back to another Brad Pitt movie, Troy! Wow! See what I did there?

Brad Pitt is a Tit, Richard Gere is a.....????

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:12 pm
by MacCready
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:
MacCready wrote:
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:Then all the Squirrel's of Central Park - SHAAALL DIIIIIIEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Christ, you sounded just like Brian Cox when you said that......


Er.. yeah! Part of the intention. BUT - funnily enough, not part of the intention was to link back to another Brad Pitt movie, Troy! Wow! See what I did there?

Brad Pitt is a Tit, Richard Gere is a.....????


I thought you did all of that on purpose,
you shifty minx.....

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 11:39 pm
by Maui
Did anyone see that movie 'Cutting Class'? This wasn't one of Pitt's finer moments.

However, all actors have to have their crappy movies - like Clooney in 'The Attack of the Killer Tomatoes'.

Re: Brad Pitt: Good-Ass Actor or Good Ass, Actor?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 1:09 am
by Ribbons
I don't know how I feel about Brad Pitt as an actor but one of the things I like about Brad Pitt as a celebrity is the clout he brings to good directors. He's a self-professed "auteur whore" and his good taste has helped put filmmakers on the map: Guy Ritchie, Andrew Dominik, Inarritu, maybe even David Fincher, although their careers are sort of linked. Right now he's starring in a movie for Steve McQueen (Hunger, Shame) about a slave trader, and since I like McQueen I'm looking forward to seeing a higher-profile movie from him.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:31 am
by papalazeru
Maui wrote:Did anyone see that movie 'Cutting Class'? This wasn't one of Pitt's finer moments.

However, all actors have to have their crappy movies - like Clooney in 'The Attack of the Killer Tomatoes'.


TAKE THAT BACK!!!!!

Oh, PItt's had some stinkers though, The Devils own was awful, and let's not forget Mr and Mrs Smith, another floor scraper with little effort put in.

Re: Brad Pitt: Good-Ass Actor or Good Ass, Actor?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:14 pm
by Spandau Belly
This is some baffling shit, yo. Possibly a trailer for TREE OF LIFE 2.


Re: Brad Pitt: Good-Ass Actor or Good Ass, Actor?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:31 am
by so sorry
I recently watched two Brad Pitt flicks, World War Z and Fury. Neither was good in my opinion, but I don't think it was Pitt's fault. Well, I guess since he was the driving factor behind WWZ it WAS his fault, but it wasn't a bad movie because of his acting. Fury was a disapointment to me, I like WWII movies alot, just didn't resonate with me. But again, not because of Pitt.
That said, I wonder how much slack I give him because he's an attractive guy with a ton of charisma. Kinda like the slack I may give hot girls who are trying to sell me shit at the mall ("no, I don't really need a 16oz bottle of Drakkar Noir, but since you look like a Victoria's Secret model, I'll take two!").

Re: Brad Pitt: Good-Ass Actor or Good Ass, Actor?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:49 pm
by TheButcher
Brad Pitt Goes Full Brad Pitt In The First Trailer For Netflix’s WAR MACHINE
Almost, but not quite, peak Pitt.

Re: Brad Pitt: Good-Ass Actor or Good Ass, Actor?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:53 pm
by Peven
I think he's one of the best actors working today, he is the kind of actor who makes anything he is in watchable

Re: Brad Pitt: Good-Ass Actor or Good Ass, Actor?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:17 pm
by Cpt Kirks 2pay
I'm in this. So watch it. That's all the profit information this film needs to give out.

Re: Brad Pitt: Good-Ass Actor or Good Ass, Actor?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:45 pm
by Ribbons
Watching Brad Pitt slowly age is a depressing reminder of my own mortality.

Re: Brad Pitt: Good-Ass Actor or Good Ass, Actor?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 12:00 am
by TheBaxter
Ribbons wrote:Watching Brad Pitt slowly age is a depressing reminder of my own mortality.


then go watch The Curious Case of Benjamin Button to cheer yourself up.

Stray Film Thoughts/Questions

PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:41 am
by Peven
so I'm watching "Ad Astra" for about the 6th or 7th time this morning, it is an underappreciated film, imo. it isn't perfect, has its flaws, but it is a great example example of film as existential art. of course, Brad Pitt is a big part of why it is so good. he seems to gravitate toward playing characters who are good at heart but flawed and know it and seeking redemption in some way, not in desperation but with purpose, and he does it very well. the only time I can recall him playing a straight up BAD guy was "Kalifornia", all the way back in the beginning of his career in the early 90's. dude is a great actor who isn't appreciated enough for it because he is so pretty.

Re: Stray Film Thoughts/Questions

PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:30 pm
by Ribbons
Peven wrote:so I'm watching "Ad Astra" for about the 6th or 7th time this morning, it is an underappreciated film, imo. it isn't perfect, has its flaws, but it is a great example example of film as existential art. of course, Brad Pitt is a big part of why it is so good. he seems to gravitate toward playing characters who are good at heart but flawed and know it and seeking redemption in some way, not in desperation but with purpose, and he does it very well. the only time I can recall him playing a straight up BAD guy was "Kalifornia", all the way back in the beginning of his career in the early 90's. dude is a great actor who isn't appreciated enough for it because he is so pretty.


He was a pretty bad dude in 12 Monkeys as well (albeit a legitimately crazy one), which is one of my favorite performances of his.

Re: Stray Film Thoughts/Questions

PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:40 pm
by so sorry
Ribbons wrote:
Peven wrote:so I'm watching "Ad Astra" for about the 6th or 7th time this morning, it is an underappreciated film, imo. it isn't perfect, has its flaws, but it is a great example example of film as existential art. of course, Brad Pitt is a big part of why it is so good. he seems to gravitate toward playing characters who are good at heart but flawed and know it and seeking redemption in some way, not in desperation but with purpose, and he does it very well. the only time I can recall him playing a straight up BAD guy was "Kalifornia", all the way back in the beginning of his career in the early 90's. dude is a great actor who isn't appreciated enough for it because he is so pretty.


He was a pretty bad dude in 12 Monkeys as well (albeit a legitimately crazy one), which is one of my favorite performances of his.


Not a great guy in Fight Club either (albeit a figment of someone else’s imagination).

Re: Brad Pitt: Good-Ass Actor or Good Ass, Actor?

PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:32 pm
by Wolfpack
Good Ass-Actor

Re: Stray Film Thoughts/Questions

PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 1:11 pm
by Peven
so sorry wrote:
Ribbons wrote:
Peven wrote:so I'm watching "Ad Astra" for about the 6th or 7th time this morning, it is an underappreciated film, imo. it isn't perfect, has its flaws, but it is a great example example of film as existential art. of course, Brad Pitt is a big part of why it is so good. he seems to gravitate toward playing characters who are good at heart but flawed and know it and seeking redemption in some way, not in desperation but with purpose, and he does it very well. the only time I can recall him playing a straight up BAD guy was "Kalifornia", all the way back in the beginning of his career in the early 90's. dude is a great actor who isn't appreciated enough for it because he is so pretty.


He was a pretty bad dude in 12 Monkeys as well (albeit a legitimately crazy one), which is one of my favorite performances of his.


Not a great guy in Fight Club either (albeit a figment of someone else’s imagination).


he isn't the true villain in either movie, a true bad guy. even his character in Fight Club had a sort of code. and both of those movies were made well over 20 years ago. he would be fucking fantastic if they ever decided to do a remake, even if it was updated somehow, in Gary Cooper's role in "High Noon"

Re: Brad Pitt: Good-Ass Actor or Good Ass, Actor?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:40 pm
by Peven

Re: Brad Pitt: Good-Ass Actor or Good Ass, Actor?

PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:35 am
by TheBaxter
that Benjamin Button fellow was pretty darn evil.

Stray Film Thoughts/Questions

PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2021 5:36 pm
by Peven
any Tom Hanks movie you can think, take out Hanks and replace him with Brad Pitt and it becomes a better movie...with the exception of "volunteers".

Re: Stray Film Thoughts/Questions

PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:01 pm
by Ribbons
Peven wrote:any Tom Hanks movie you can think, take out Hanks and replace him with Brad Pitt and it becomes a better movie...with the exception of "volunteers".


A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood?

Re: Stray Film Thoughts/Questions

PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:21 am
by so sorry
Ribbons wrote:
Peven wrote:any Tom Hanks movie you can think, take out Hanks and replace him with Brad Pitt and it becomes a better movie...with the exception of "volunteers".


A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood?



I can't see anyone but Hanks in Cast Away.

Re: Stray Film Thoughts/Questions

PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:35 pm
by Peven
Ribbons wrote:
Peven wrote:any Tom Hanks movie you can think, take out Hanks and replace him with Brad Pitt and it becomes a better movie...with the exception of "volunteers".


A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood?



give Brad a few years to season and a few months to slim down for the role.....and he is better

Re: Stray Film Thoughts/Questions

PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 12:20 pm
by TheBaxter
Peven wrote:any Tom Hanks movie you can think, take out Hanks and replace him with Brad Pitt and it becomes a better movie...with the exception of "volunteers".


yeah, i don't think Brad Pitt has the Punky Power to pull off a scene like this:



and he definitely couldn't pull off this career-defining role:



seriously though, Hanks is best in those "everyman" type roles, where a bit of blandness is actually called for as part of the character, so something like Big or Bachelor Party or Saving Private Ryan that uses that quality is more effective with an actor like Hanks.

Re: Brad Pitt: Good-Ass Actor or Good Ass, Actor?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 12:40 pm
by Peven
I actually caught a bit of Volunteers while channel surfing the other day and it has a very young Tom Hanks who had a different look than now, completely. i actually wonder after watching it if the real Tom Hanks is dead and the current dude is his stunt double from Forest Gump. the facial differences are drastic, he had this big goofy head and ears and was always making silly faces....and then it struck me, holy shit, John Krasinski! same kind of career tragectory, too, as he tries to remake his goofy smug comic persona into a weathered heroic everyman. so, watch out for a Forest Gump or Private Ryan remake starring Krasinski