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Re: Who keeps greenlighting these Eddie Murphy shitfests?

Postby so sorry on Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:45 am

minstrel wrote:
TheButcher wrote:'Twins' Sequel 'Triplets' in the Works for Arnold, DeVito...and Eddie Murphy (THR Exclusive)
The story would reteam Schwarzenegger and DeVito as brothers Julius and Vincent, conceived experimentally, who discover they have third sibling.


Nominated for the Dimwit Idea of the Year!

Arnold is a has-been, and has none of the amazing physique he used to have. DeVito is ... old, but still effective. Murphy has such as long string of flops recently (many in studly suits, it seems), that nobody cares about him anymore, and THIS is his attempt at a comeback.

Murphy is desperate. He's lunging for the lifeline, and THIS is the best one he could find?


Yeah this has FAIL written all over it.

And this coming from a major Arnold fan. I want him to succeed, I truely do. But I don't see it happening, especially if all he does is sequels and retreads of his previous movies.

I'm reminded of this awesome scene in Twins:




Except nowadays Stallone looks exactly the same thanks to the roids, and Arnold is all flabby and shit.
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Re: Who keeps greenlighting these Eddie Murphy shitfests?

Postby Peven on Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:58 am

so sorry wrote:
minstrel wrote:
TheButcher wrote:'Twins' Sequel 'Triplets' in the Works for Arnold, DeVito...and Eddie Murphy (THR Exclusive)
The story would reteam Schwarzenegger and DeVito as brothers Julius and Vincent, conceived experimentally, who discover they have third sibling.


Nominated for the Dimwit Idea of the Year!

Arnold is a has-been, and has none of the amazing physique he used to have. DeVito is ... old, but still effective. Murphy has such as long string of flops recently (many in studly suits, it seems), that nobody cares about him anymore, and THIS is his attempt at a comeback.

Murphy is desperate. He's lunging for the lifeline, and THIS is the best one he could find?


Yeah this has FAIL written all over it.

And this coming from a major Arnold fan. I want him to succeed, I truely do. But I don't see it happening, especially if all he does is sequels and retreads of his previous movies.

I'm reminded of this awesome scene in Twins:




Except nowadays Stallone looks exactly the same thanks to the roids, and Arnold is all flabby and shit.


Eddie Murphy will play a guy who's mother was a maid/nanny that got knocked up by her wealthy and married scientist employer who happened to provide genetic material in the original Twins.......
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Re: Triplets

Postby TheButcher on Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:51 pm

Josh Gad And Ryan Dixon On Script Duty For ‘Triplets’ With Arnold Schwarzenegger, Danny DeVito and Eddie Murphy
MIKE FLEMING JR. wrote:EXCLUSIVE: Book Of Mormon star Josh Gad and Ryan Dixon are now set to script the treatment for Triplets, the Twins sequel that will be produced by Montecito for Universal Pictures. Dixon will write the script. The film has Arnold Schwarzenegger and Danny DeVito attached to reprise their roles as the mismatched siblings, and Eddie Murphy is attached to play the third brother. Ivan Reitman, who directed the first one, is producing.

Gad is an exec producer and star of the NBC comedy 1600 Penn, which premieres in January, and he’s also starring in Thanks For Sharing opposite Tim Robbins and Mark Ruffalo, which made its debut at Sundance. Gad is repped by ICM, Brillstein and attorney PJ Shapiro. Dixon is also repped by ICM Partners.
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Re: Triplets

Postby so sorry on Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:37 am

TheButcher wrote:Josh Gad And Ryan Dixon On Script Duty For ‘Triplets’ With Arnold Schwarzenegger, Danny DeVito and Eddie Murphy
MIKE FLEMING JR. wrote:EXCLUSIVE: Book Of Mormon star Josh Gad and Ryan Dixon are now set to script the treatment for Triplets, the Twins sequel that will be produced by Montecito for Universal Pictures. Dixon will write the script. The film has Arnold Schwarzenegger and Danny DeVito attached to reprise their roles as the mismatched siblings, and Eddie Murphy is attached to play the third brother. Ivan Reitman, who directed the first one, is producing.

Gad is an exec producer and star of the NBC comedy 1600 Penn, which premieres in January, and he’s also starring in Thanks For Sharing opposite Tim Robbins and Mark Ruffalo, which made its debut at Sundance. Gad is repped by ICM, Brillstein and attorney PJ Shapiro. Dixon is also repped by ICM Partners.


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Trading Places

Postby TheButcher on Sat Jul 20, 2013 2:21 am

B.A.D. June 15, 2013:
TRADING PLACES: Race, Class And Pork Futures
It's TRADING PLACES' 30th anniversary this week, so let's take a good look at it.


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What Actually Happens At The End Of Trading Places?
Robert Smith wrote:It's been 30 years since Trading Places came out. And, to be honest, I never really understood what happened at the end of that movie. Sure, Louis Winthorpe (Dan Aykroyd) and Billy Ray Valentine (Eddie Murphy) get rich, and the Duke brothers lose all their money. But what actually happens? How does it work?

I recently talked to Tom Peronis, a guy who has spent years trading OJ options. He walked me through every step of Winthorpe and Valentine's plan.

1. Give The Duke Brothers Bad Information


The Duke brothers — two old rich guys — have bribed someone to get an advance copy a government report on the orange crop. This will give them inside information on what's going to happen in the market for frozen, concentrated orange juice. But Winthorpe and Valentine find out what the Dukes are up to, and they manage to steal the crop report before the Duke brothers get it.

The report says the orange crop is strong. When the rest of the world learns this, the price of OJ will fall. So Winthorpe and Valentine create a fake crop report that they put into the hands of the Duke brothers. The fake crop report says the crop was bad. The Duke brothers see this, and believe the price of OJ will rise.

2. Drive Up The Price Of Orange Juice Futures

The setting the floor of the commodities exchange. The Duke brothers have told their trader to buy orange juice futures, and to keep buying no matter how high the price goes.

The market opens, and the Duke brothers' trader starts buying. Everybody else sees this and thinks Dukes know something. Suddenly, everybody's buying. The price goes up and up and up, and the Dukes keep buying.

3. Sell To The Suckers

Then comes the key line for the entire movie — a line that's almost unintelligible. Standing on the floor of the exchange, Winthorpe (Dan Aykroyd) yells out:

Sell 30 April at 142!


Here's what that means: He wants to promise to sell orange juice in April for $1.42 per pound. The "30" in his line means he wants to start by selling 30 contracts. (One contract = many, many pounds of OJ.) (Also, that "30" might be some other number. It's hard to understand what he's saying. But it doesn't really matter — they sell a lot of contracts.)

All the other traders think the price in April will be higher than $1.42. The traders mob Winthorpe and Valentine, agreeing to buy lots and lots of OJ from them at $1.42 a pound.

4. Wait For The Other Shoe To Drop

A minute later, everything on the trading floor goes quiet. Everybody looks at the TV. On the TV, some guy walks up to a podium and reads the orange crop report. The guy tells the world that the orange crop is fine.

5. Buy Low, Get Rich And Bankrupt Your Enemies

To the traders, this means that the price of OJ is not going to go through the roof. All those traders who, a minute ago, were buying all they could, now suddenly need to sell. So the price starts falling. When the price hits 29 cents a pound, Winthorpe and Valentine start agreeing to buy orange juice in April.

In other words, Winthorpe and Valentine have contracts allowing them to buy millions of pounds of orange juice in April for 29 cents a pound, and to sell it for $1.42 a pound. They sold high and bought low. They're rich. The Dukes made the opposite bet and went broke.

Bonus: The Eddie Murphy Rule

One interesting kicker to the story: Trading commodities on inside information obtained from the government wasn't actually illegal when the movie came out, but it's illegal now. It was banned in the 2010 finance-overhaul law, under a special provision often referred to as the Eddie Murphy Rule.
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Re: Who keeps greenlighting these Eddie Murphy shitfests?

Postby Fievel on Sat Jul 20, 2013 2:56 am

Good couple of reads there! I need to rewatch Trading Places. It has been way, WAY too long!!!
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Re: Who keeps greenlighting these Eddie Murphy shitfests?

Postby TheButcher on Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:33 pm

Fievel wrote:Good couple of reads there! I need to rewatch Trading Places. It has been way, WAY too long!!!

Well what are you waiting for? Go watch it!
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Re: Who keeps greenlighting these Eddie Murphy shitfests?

Postby TheButcher on Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:19 am

‘Beverly Hills Cop’ at 30: The Best and Worst of Eddie Murphy
MATTHEW CHERNOV wrote:From the moment he took the stage at 30 Rockefeller Plaza and shouted "Live from New York, it's Saturday Night!" it was only a matter of time before Hollywood came calling for Eddie Murphy. The comedian's edgy humor, whip-smart intelligence and go-for-broke energy all but ensured a quick transition to feature films. Beginning his movie career with a series of impressive costarring performances, Murphy made the leap to leading man status in the action-comedy classic "Beverly Hills Cop." Released on December 5, 1984, it remains his most financially successful live-action film to date. On its 30th anniversary, here's a look at Eddie Murphy's ten best roles, plus five that should be forgotten.
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Eddie Murphy

Postby TheButcher on Tue Feb 24, 2015 1:42 pm

Why Eddie Murphy is, once and for all, done
It's hard to call yourself a fan of someone who doesn't seem to care
Moriarty wrote:Eddie Murphy was a miracle.

Today, there is an industry around the show that is designed to be a sort of star-making assembly line, and I think many of the people who have used the show as a springboard to other things deserve that success completely.

But when Eddie Murphy made his debut on the show in 1980, "Saturday Night Live" wasn't even guaranteed a spot on TV for much longer. After all, the original cast was gone by that point. The new cast, including Denny Dillon, Gilbert Gottfried, Charles Rocket, Ann Risley, and Joe Piscopo, seemed like a poor replacement for the likes of Dan Aykroyd, John Belushi, Gilda Radner, and Bill Murray. I was a ten year old nascent comedy nerd, and for me, it was mystifying to see something that had been the absolute center of the comedy universe suddenly drop completely out of relevance. Everything about that season of SNL felt wrong to me, and I was getting ready to drop it as a habit completely.

And then Eddie Murphy showed up. And pretty much as soon as he made that first Weekend Update appearance as Raheem Abdul Muhammad, it was clear that something new was happening on the show. Murphy's voice was one that had not been in the mix on "Saturday Night Live" up to that point, and right away, there was an element of danger that made him thrilling.

I look at Murphy now, and I see a guy whose sense of "danger" came from repackaging the comics that had inspired him, like Richard Pryor, through the filter of a kid growing up in a fairly middle-class existence in Brooklyn. He knew full well, though, how white "Saturday Night Live" was and how white TV in general was, and Murphy tweaked the culture that embraced him even as he made a play for super-stardom. And week in, week out, Murphy turned the fading variety show into appointment television for comedy fans because it was obvious that the show could barely contain all of his remarkable comic energy.

For the next few years, Murphy did the impossible; he single-handedly kept the show in the cultural conversation. I don't care what you say about the other performers he worked with on the show… it was Murphy that had people tuning in. If you weren't an active "Saturday Night Live" fan when Eddie Murphy was introducing new characters every week, you can't imagine what it was like. I've never seen anything like it in all the years the show has been on the air. When he made his entrance to a scene, it was pandemonium. If people recognized the character already, it was double pandemonium. Everyone had an impression of at least one of his characters, and for the first time, it was a black comic who was the driving creative force on the show.

When Murphy first made the jump to movies, it looked like he was going to be even more electrifying. Again… you can't imagine what it was like sitting in a theater for "48 HRS." the first time an audience laid eyes on the scene where Reggie Hammond takes his borrowed badge into a country and western bar. There was an uneasy wrestling match for pop culture happening at that time, and with Prince and Michael Jackson establishing that the pop charts were no longer allowed to be lilly white, it was thrilling to see someone doing the same thing for movies. Eddie Murphy made my parents nervous, which was all the endorsement I needed to know that he was doing something right. Both "48 HRS." and "Beverly Hills Cop" played with the friction caused by Eddie's characters treading into what was typically thought of as "white space," and that friction was both hilarious and genuinely edgy.

When Eddie Murphy took the stage during the 40th anniversary "Saturday Night Live" celebration, it was an oddly quiet moment, joke-free and brief. I didn't think it was particularly problematic, but I also didn't think there was anything special about it, and it bummed me out as a fan to see how little energy Eddie brought to a celebration of what was, after all, his breakthrough. For several years, that place was his home, and he was the king there. Forget some shitty throwaway joke David Spade made years later, and forget whether or not Lorne Michaels fully appreciates what Eddie did for the show. I was saddened by his appearance for the same reason I am always saddened by Eddie Murphy these days: because he is done.

All the evidence I need came from the account that Norm MacDonald shared a few days after the fact of how they had tried to get Murphy to play Bill Cosby for the Celebrity Jeopardy sketch. I've heard many theories about why Murphy didn't do it, the most popular of which is that Murphy probably didn't want to give Cosby any reason to dredge up Murphy's own tabloid history, and maybe that played a part in it. But the truth is that Eddie Murphy's comedy hasn't had an edge in a long time, and once you give that up as a comic, that's not something you can just return to ay time you want. Richard Pryor may have made more than his fair share of terrible sell-out movies like "Superman III" or "The Toy," but his stand-up always remained blisteringly honest and uncompromising. Murphy hasn't done any real stand-up in decades now, and he certainly doesn't seem interested in being honest about himself or about where America is right now in terms of race. Murphy's been making primarily family-oriented films for the better part of the last fifteen years, and the guy who shows up in films like "A Thousand Words" and "Daddy Day Care" wouldn't even recognize the kid who made us laugh every week on "Saturday Night Live."

Watching Murphy react to Cosby's scolding of him over language in "Eddie Murphy Raw" is thrilling because it was released right at the height of Cosby's super-stardom. At that point, Cosby was America's Sitcom Dad, a moral authority, and Murphy's defiant finger in the face of that scolding was genuinely subversive at the time. Now we see an Eddie Murphy who is worried about seeming too mean, who didn't want to say anything about Cosby that might be controversial later. You cannot be careful and be a great comedy voice. You cannot be concerned about looking cool and also be creatively free. I've said for years now that the only way to get a great performance out of Murphy these days is to put him under Rick Baker make-up, because the moment you don't recognize him, Murphy seems to suddenly be funny again. He no longer has anything to protect, so he can be free to make the jokes that "cool" Eddie Murphy can't.

When I went to an early screening of "Dreamgirls," I stepped outside and ran into Bill Condon, the director of the film, and as I started talking to him about Eddie, I found myself getting very emotional. It is hard for me to fully describe how possessive I was of Murphy as a star when I was young. I felt like his success was something that my friends and I were part of, that we were the ones Murphy was speaking to. And watching him slowly transform into this humorless weirdo has been upsetting precisely because of how much he meant to us. When I saw "Dreamgirls," what moved me most about it was seeing signs of life behind those eyes of his. It was a real performance, and it was a promise that maybe he wasn't done after all.

But I no longer believe that. I think Eddie Murphy is afraid to offend, and if that's the case, then I don't think we ever see a return to form for him. He has learned the caution of old men, and that has killed the thing that made him so great originally. He was fearless when he was young, and that total lack of fear is what drew us to him. Eddie knew full well that anything he did was going to get a response each week, and he used that to challenge us and to challenge the celebrities that he mocked. Eddie punched holes in the ridiculousness of fame, and now he's given himself over to it completely. Young Eddie Murphy wasn't afraid of Bill Cosby, and he wasn't afraid to tell anyone who wanted to force him to be "nice" to "have a Coke and a smile and shut the fuck up." The Eddie Murphy who stood awkwardly on that stage last weekend and who had nothing to say is not the person whose work meant so much to me. There is plenty of righteous anger that can be summoned about Bill Cosby now. If anything, he is a more important target now than he's ever been. After all, this is a man who now stands accused of almost three dozen rapes, and yet he's able to get a crowd to turn out to listen to him tell jokes. One of the things comedy can do so well is puncture those who deserve to be punctured, and right now, that's Bill Cosby in a big way.

Obviously, Eddie didn't have to do Norm's sketch, and he obviously didn't have to make fun of Bill Cosby. But I think it's safe to say that his choices speak volumes about who he is and where he is, and whatever else Eddie makes in the future, he is no longer the artist whose work mattered to me. He may well make another "Beverly Hills Cop," but I guarantee it won't be anything like "Beverly Hills Cop." He is no longer the outsider at all. He is no longer the fish out of water. He is a rich man, a careful man, and a businessman, and no one will ever be afraid of him or his wit again.

And that is a damn shame, indeed.
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Re: Who keeps greenlighting these Eddie Murphy shitfests?

Postby TheBaxter on Tue Feb 24, 2015 3:20 pm

i saw Eddie on the Oscars last night, and he was just as funny as he was on the 40th anniversary special.
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Re: Eddie Murphy

Postby so sorry on Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:16 pm

TheButcher wrote:Why Eddie Murphy is, once and for all, done
It's hard to call yourself a fan of someone who doesn't seem to care
Moriarty wrote:Eddie Murphy BLAH BLAH BLAH

And that is a damn shame, indeed.


This might be the dumbest thing I've read in a long time. For those of you who don't care to read over it (its too damn long), Moriarty basically says Eddie lost his balls/edge, and he can no longer support him as an artist/comedian. As if Eddie Murphy has to maintain his leather wearing, curse filled, booze and boobs fueled lifestyle that helped define him THIRTY FUCKING YEARS AGO. Get a life Drew, and let other people grow the hell up if they so chose to.
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Re: Who keeps greenlighting these Eddie Murphy shitfests?

Postby TheBaxter on Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:38 pm

i think his point was that eddie is too careful, too worried about offending people or doing something controversial, and that that fear and carefulness is death to the type of comedy that made him successful and funny and famous in the first place. whether it's because of that or something else, i do at least agree that eddie murphy seems mostly irrelevant these days. i can't remember the last good or funny thing he did. bowfinger? it's been a while. anyways, some people grow and change and decide they want to do a different kind of comedy or different style of acting. not many are able to make that transition successfully, it doesn't seem like eddie has. it also doesn't seem like eddie cares. if he has no desire to go back to the style of comedy that put him on the map, and is content to keep doing the family-friendly, boring stuff he's done most recently, then so be it.

it's kind of like when a band changes their sound or style. there are always people who are going to want the band to keep doing the same songs they did on their first album. and there are always gonna be artists who get bored and want to move on, even if it means abandoning whatever it was about them that made them great or worth listening to in the first place.
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Re: Who keeps greenlighting these Eddie Murphy shitfests?

Postby Fievel on Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:55 pm

I've just been wanting to see Eddie return to standup not to rehash his old material, but to get his perspective on life now. He's in his 50's. He's had a ton of life experiences in the past (almost) 30 years since Raw was released. Those experiences would make some great material. Maybe he'd be just as vulgar as before. Maybe not. I doubt he'd revisit/update his anti-homosexual bits, or the bits that really degraded women, but that's not all that he did in his routine.
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Re: Who keeps greenlighting these Eddie Murphy shitfests?

Postby so sorry on Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:58 am

TheBaxter wrote:... it doesn't seem like eddie has. it also doesn't seem like eddie cares. if he has no desire to go back to the style of comedy that put him on the map, and is content to keep doing the family-friendly, boring stuff he's done most recently, then so be it.


I guess that's my point. It SEEMS like Eddie is content right now, not really doing much of anything, and perhaps he's matured a bit more than "Raw" fans would like (P.S. I love Raw). I just didn't appreciate the article written by Moriarty which sounds like an attack on Eddie for NOT being edgy anymore, almost like he's calling him out as a pussy and daring him to be "controversial".
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Re: Who keeps greenlighting these Eddie Murphy shitfests?

Postby TheButcher on Fri Mar 13, 2015 6:06 pm

EXCLUSIVE: Eddie Murphy Cast in Lee Daniels’ Richard Pryor Film
So what part will he play? Richard Pryor's father, LeRoy "Buck Carter" Pryor, a former boxer.
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