The Zone's Quest to Find the Greatest Director (CAGLE)

Which director made the best films, made the best visuals, or smelled the best? This is the forum to find out.

Postby Eric G on Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:00 pm

What about Tim Burton? Anybody mention Tim Burton? I am I just an imbecile for mentioning him?


Or am I just an imbecile. Period.
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Postby John-Locke on Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:11 pm

Eric G wrote:What about Tim Burton? Anybody mention Tim Burton? I am I just an imbecile for mentioning him?


Or am I just an imbecile. Period.


He was on the original list but it was a little too big and he fell by the wayside because I made the descision he wasn't as likely to get a vote as the ones wo made the final poll. I basically had to cull a lot of the newcomers, I thought I'd have to take more off so there are a few inconsistancies because when I hit submit after removing a few it accepted my list.
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Postby tapehead on Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:16 pm

option 42 for Tim Burton - Bunuel and a couple of others woulda got a few votes too - maybe the poll should cut out those who haven't scored any votes at some point and go again with that list? just for the sake of a conclusion, a top 20, 10 and 5?
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Postby Eric G on Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:16 pm

John-Locke wrote:
Eric G wrote:What about Tim Burton? Anybody mention Tim Burton? I am I just an imbecile for mentioning him?


Or am I just an imbecile. Period.


He was on the original list but it was a little too big and he fell by the wayside because I made the descision he wasn't as likely to get a vote as the ones wo made the final poll. I basically had to cull a lot of the newcomers, I thought I'd have to take more off so there are a few inconsistancies because when I hit submit after removing a few it accepted my list.


Cool. 8) Just knowing he was on the list is enough for me.
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Postby Brocktune on Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:43 pm

perhaps we could do a head to head bracket style vote off for like the 6 or 8 directors that have votes. that way we could say that the zone's fav director was "insert winner here".
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Postby havocSchultz on Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:28 am

arrrrggghhhhhh...!!!


vote you DEUTSCHBAGS!!!!



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Postby The Vicar on Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:13 pm

Like we used to say in Chicago -

Vote now
And vote often




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Postby Cpt Kirks 2pay on Fri Mar 31, 2006 4:18 pm

Wanna keep this short.

Can't really vote on this thread simply because I haven't seen most/all films by most/all Director's here.

I ain't gonna be some Public Empire magazine voter and vote Peter Jackson Peter Jackson or Quentin Tarantula seeing as they're the only directors I know about.

I've only just started on Ingmar Bergman's movies, only seen 1 or 2 of Orson Welles, none of Andrei Tarkovsky's, Pedro Almodóvar's, enough of John Huston's or indulged myself in those bloody Citizen Cane appreciation classes, so it won't be right or fair to JL or anyone else if this huge list is put up and all I can end up saying is er....Michael Bay or someone.

This thread really has exposed my lack of film knowledge to myself and any other Zoners watching me. I simply don't know more than 10% of the information I'm to be questioned on.

I can give you an answer on what I think so far is the greatest Director, but I don't want it submitted and I won't vote it. Steven Spielberg.

Now, before you go slagging me off for being typical or unknowlegeable, let me say that I do not in any way think that this is an ideal choice. He DOES do what movies should do and provide a true 'experience' in going through these chunks of life for 2+ hours. Incredible entertainment. Blah blah..

But there is an insight into humans that I still haven't found in his movies. No Raging Bulls or Taxi Drivers. No deep and articualte probing into what makes his character's tick, or indeed, providing any real intruiging or curious characters that I really wanna take a thorough examination of. How close has he got to this, Armon Goeth and Oskar Schindler?

Can't say Martin Scorsese is my fave either, as apart from his masterpieces early on, he has become a bore, doing movies about New York, Gangsters over and over, or doing subject matters that have no excitment to me. I couldn't give a fuck about The Aviator, I already got my fix from Tommy Lee Jone's 4 part TV series over 2 decades ago already. Kundun I heard was a bit dull to endure. So that's Marty out.

Francis Coppola. Again, he hasn't provided consistency to his 70s stuff which I thought were the greatest and most ambitious achievments that Directors of his kind had done. He's out too.

Woody Allen. Along with Martin Scorsese, maybe America's finest Actor's Director, but what does Woody really make mainly, apart from movies about himself, or his fantasies?

So, so far, all the Directors that I can think of are only part of what I would imagine my ultimate Director is.

Gimme more alongs the likes of Bergman, Huston or even 4 time Oscar winner John Ford who I'm suprised isn't here, and I'll make my mind up even better, though right now I don't think Steven Spielberg will no longer be my favourite, and a slight favourite at that.

Maybe this guy will make more films in the future that will satisfy all my other yearnings for what I want my hypathetical fave Director to be, he is one of the only consistent greats of the 70s so far.

As a post script, Alfred Hitchcock might be a contender as he's not just been a genius movie maker and entertainer blah blah blah as we all know, but has so far with Marnie and Psycho, given us an exploration of the human state, which really is the most exciting subject for a Director to tackle. But again, I need to see more.

Anyway, call me an idiot, but just don't call me a putz who just thinks of the first or only decent thing I can think of and end up submitting the director of the last film I saw and totally ignoring the entirety of Film History.
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Postby MasterWhedon on Fri Mar 31, 2006 4:22 pm

Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:Wanna keep this short.

YOU FAIL!!
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Postby Cpt Kirks 2pay on Fri Mar 31, 2006 4:25 pm

Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:Wanna keep this short.



Failed.
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Postby Cpt Kirks 2pay on Fri Mar 31, 2006 4:26 pm

MasterWhedon wrote:
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:Wanna keep this short.

YOU FAIL!!


Oh, you beat me to the draw!
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Postby thomasgaffney on Fri Mar 31, 2006 4:27 pm

Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:Anyway, call me an idiot


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Postby Cpt Kirks 2pay on Fri Mar 31, 2006 4:31 pm

thomasgaffney wrote:
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:Anyway, call me an idiot


Idiot.


No, no. I originally said, "Call me an idiot - and I'll put a Snake down your pants."

You edited me.

And you're a Wanker.
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Postby unikrunk on Fri Mar 31, 2006 4:35 pm

I still have the only vote in for Fellini? Holy crap, come on people.

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Postby thomasgaffney on Fri Mar 31, 2006 4:37 pm

Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:
thomasgaffney wrote:
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:Anyway, call me an idiot


Idiot.


No, no. I originally said, "Call me an idiot - and I'll put a Snake down your pants."

You edited me.

And you're a Wanker.


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Postby thomasgaffney on Fri Mar 31, 2006 4:44 pm

unikrunk wrote:I still have the only vote in for Fellini? Holy crap, come on people.

FELLINI


I've only seen La Dolce Vita. And what I saw wasn't enough to sway my vote from Hitchcock. Interesting La Dolce Vita trivia:

Producer Dino De Laurentiis left the project when director Federico Fellini refused to cast Paul Newman in the lead.

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Postby tapehead on Fri Mar 31, 2006 5:08 pm

I'd be amazed if anyone could honestly say they've seen one or more films by everyone here - it's a pretty outside chance at least - and that's what's cool about it, does there have to be a MR. A 1 ? If so, It's only ever going to be one of the more populist choices that everyone knows. It is curious that more people haven't wandered by and thrown out their opinion though
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Postby Fried Gold on Fri Mar 31, 2006 5:26 pm

It's difficult to properly compare some of them. They've each brought some sort of significant, influential contribution to film. From the directors I'm familiar with they have directed a fairly consistent body of work (including some greats).

Some may not have shown some visionary, earth shattering style but I'm sure each one has their own defining personal stamp.

That's probably where the frontrunners break off. The works of people like Spielberg & Kubrick have cut across genre & time.
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Postby Theta on Fri Mar 31, 2006 8:28 pm

thomasgaffney wrote:
unikrunk wrote:I still have the only vote in for Fellini? Holy crap, come on people.

FELLINI


I've only seen La Dolce Vita. And what I saw wasn't enough to sway my vote from Hitchcock. Interesting La Dolce Vita trivia:

Producer Dino De Laurentiis left the project when director Federico Fellini refused to cast Paul Newman in the lead.

Putz.


Check out "La Strada", especially if you like Chaplin. And "8 1/2" is worth seeing once.
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Postby thomasgaffney on Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:43 pm

Theta wrote:
thomasgaffney wrote:
unikrunk wrote:I still have the only vote in for Fellini? Holy crap, come on people.

FELLINI


I've only seen La Dolce Vita. And what I saw wasn't enough to sway my vote from Hitchcock. Interesting La Dolce Vita trivia:

Producer Dino De Laurentiis left the project when director Federico Fellini refused to cast Paul Newman in the lead.

Putz.


Check out "La Strada", especially if you like Chaplin. And "8 1/2" is worth seeing once.


Thanks. I'll give those a shot...
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Postby John-Locke on Sat Apr 01, 2006 10:38 am

Hitch and Kubrick are tied for first place.


Come on and Vote already will you people.
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Postby Fried Gold on Sat Apr 01, 2006 11:11 am

You could remove the 1s and 0s from the poll and get those votes re-assigned.
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Postby John-Locke on Mon Apr 03, 2006 7:43 pm

We are at a stalemate.

Please, if you haven't already VOTE NOW
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Postby RogueScribner on Mon Apr 03, 2006 7:51 pm

I agree. Maybe we should have a run off election. Eliminate anyone who garnered less than 5 votes and open the polls again.
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Postby ZombieZoneSolutions on Mon Apr 03, 2006 7:56 pm

Kubrick v. Hitchcock in a dead heat!

I agree with RogueScribner; we should have runoff
election; delete the less than fives and vote again.

I'm curious to see the results!
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Postby John-Locke on Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:01 pm

Yeah but we could get more votes across the board if this is up long enough, the Joker Casting Poll had 75 votes and it wasn't busier in the zone then.

A few more days and reboot the poll with just the front runners so we can crown our King.
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Postby ZombieZoneSolutions on Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:09 pm

John-Locke wrote:A few more days and reboot the poll with just the front runners so we can crown our King.


Yes... We dub thee... KING KUBRICK!!!

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Postby Nachokoolaid on Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:50 pm

Because I made such a fuss to get him on there. I went with Terry Gilliam. I just love his attention to detail and his anal retentive qualities that ensure the technical aspects have to be perfect in each shot.
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Postby John-Locke on Tue Apr 04, 2006 3:27 pm

OH MY!

WE HAVE A THREE WAY TIE!


Vote already.
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Postby papalazeru on Tue Apr 04, 2006 3:45 pm

I just voted for Kurosawa.

His videos were incredible influtential. His stylised films wrote the Japanese and Western cinema.

I still think how incredible it was watching something like 7 Samurai and feeling very close to the characters with no emotional music playing.
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Postby HollywoodBabylon on Wed Apr 05, 2006 12:34 pm

John-Locke wrote:OH MY!

WE HAVE A THREE WAY TIE!


Vote already.



Are you sure Jeb Bush hasn't had a hand in this??????????
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Postby The Vicar on Wed Apr 05, 2006 1:07 pm

Looks like time to separate the wheat from the chaff....and hold a final vote off.
No write ins.
Just our plucky finalists.

Hitchcock
Kubrick
Scorsese
Speilberg
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Postby John-Locke on Wed Apr 05, 2006 7:35 pm

For the record:

Woody Allen 0% [ 0 ]
Pedro Almodóvar 1% [ 1 ]
Robert Altman 0% [ 0 ]
Ingmar Bergman 1% [ 1 ]
James Cameron 0% [ 0 ]
Frank Capra 3% [ 2 ]
Charlie Chaplin 0% [ 0 ]
The Coen Brothers 3% [ 2 ]
Francis Ford Coppola 0% [ 0 ]
David Cronenberg 1% [ 1 ]
Brian DePalma 0% [ 0 ]
Clint Eastwood 0% [ 0 ]
Federico Fellini 1% [ 1 ]
Samuel Fuller 0% [ 0 ]
Terry Gilliam 3% [ 2 ]
Jean Luc Goddard 0% [ 0 ]
Howard Hawks 1% [ 1 ]
Werner Herzog 0% [ 0 ]
Alfred Hitchcock 12% [ 7 ]
John Huston 0% [ 0 ]
Peter Jackson 3% [ 2 ]
Buster Keaton 0% [ 0 ]
Stanley Kubrick 12% [ 7 ]
Akira Kurosawa 7% [ 4 ]
Fritz Lang 3% [ 2 ]
David Lean 1% [ 1 ]
Ang Lee 0% [ 0 ]
Sergio Leone 1% [ 1 ]
George Lucas 0% [ 0 ]
Sidney Lumet 0% [ 0 ]
David Lynch 3% [ 2 ]
Terrence Malick 0% [ 0 ]
Michael Mann 0% [ 0 ]
Sam Peckinpah 0% [ 0 ]
Roman Polanski 0% [ 0 ]
Martin Scorsese 8% [ 5 ]
Ridley Scott 3% [ 2 ]
Steven Spielberg 12% [ 7 ]
Andrei Tarkovsky 1% [ 1 ]
François Truffaut 1% [ 1 ]
Orson Welles 1% [ 1 ]
Wong Kar-Wai 1% [ 1 ]
Not listed 1% [ 1 ]
Total Votes : 56

Okay I'm going to start a new poll and I'm also going to include Kurosawa who with 4 votes I think could end up higher than 5th place overall.

Cool?
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Postby havocSchultz on Wed Apr 05, 2006 7:36 pm

John-Locke wrote:
Okay I'm going to start a new poll and I'm also going to include Kurosawa who with 4 votes I think could end up higher than 5th place overall.

Cool?


i would like "not listed" on the new poll as well cause i think - in retrosepct - he's the gretest director of all time...

otherwise - it's cool...
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Postby John-Locke on Wed Apr 05, 2006 7:45 pm

IT'S ON!
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Postby MasterWhedon on Wed Apr 05, 2006 7:59 pm

SPIELBERGO, MUTHAFUCKA!!
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Postby thomasgaffney on Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:06 pm

MasterWhedon wrote:SPIELBERGO, MUTHAFUCKA!!


Um... No. Hitch, bitch. The best.
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Postby wonkabar on Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:16 pm

.....Kubrick
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Postby John-Locke on Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:17 pm

Predictions?

I think Señor Spielbergo might win it.
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Postby wonkabar on Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:25 pm

Spielberg would want you to vote Kubrick
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Postby havocSchultz on Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:25 pm

HITCHCOCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Postby Leckomaniac on Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:26 pm

So I voted...a bit upset that Fritz Lang didn't make the cut...but after debating between Kurosawa and Kubrick (it was the battle of the K's)

I had to go with Kubrick...which seems to be the popular pick.
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Postby colonel_lugz on Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:28 pm

VOTE SPIELBERGO

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Postby Flumm on Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:28 pm

No, no, no. This throws out my carefully worked robologic. Now I have to go through it all again and repick by ultimately flawed human critieria...


:x :cry: :P :roll:

I'm tempted to pick Marty actually.
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Postby Keepcoolbutcare on Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:29 pm

colonel_lugz wrote:VOTE SPIELBERGO


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Postby Fried Gold on Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:34 pm

The quality Mexican, non-union equivalent.
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Postby Theta on Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:36 pm

Out of that list, I think Scorese. Spielberg is a close second.
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Postby Nachokoolaid on Wed Apr 05, 2006 10:09 pm

I went with the underdog, Kurasawa. He was so far ahead of his time it's ridiculous. Plus, he was great technically as well. That being said, I probably enjoy Spielberg's films more.
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Postby RogueScribner on Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:01 pm

I think at least half of the votes that went to people not in the finals are going to go to Spielberg now. Kubrick may have been leading the pack, but Spielberg is coming up from behind!
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