THE FILMS OF BRIAN DEPALMA

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What's Your Favorite DePalma Film?

Sisters (1973)
0
No votes
Phantom Of The Paradise (1974)
2
3%
Carrie (1976)
5
8%
The Fury (1978)
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No votes
Dressed To Kill (1980)
6
10%
Blow Out (1981)
8
14%
Scarface (1983)
16
27%
Body Double (1984)
4
7%
The Untouchables (1987)
10
17%
Casulaties of War (1989)
2
3%
Raising Cain (1992)
1
2%
Carlitos Way (1993)
3
5%
Mission Impossible (1996)
2
3%
Femme Fatale (2003)
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Re: THE FILMS OF BRIAN DEPALMA

Postby havocSchultz on Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:26 am

WinslowLeach wrote:I saw Snake Eyes at the movies back when it was released. I didnt love it, but over the years Ive rewatched it and have found more of an appreciation for it. One thing is for sure when you watch that film and all his others, DePalma is a master of pure cinema storytelling. Noone since Hitchcock is as technically brilliant as him with a camera as voyeuristic eye. I think his flair for elaborate film sequences definitely come from his background as a computer science whiz. If you watch DTK, Peter Miller (Keith Gordon) is basically DePalma as a youth.


I'll agree with that...for the most part...
But DePalma needs to learn how to pick a better script...

I love a lot of his old stuff...
But I haven't really enjoyed much since Mission Impossible...
Some have been nice to look at it...
And they've had some cool shots...
But I don't know what it is...
I don't know what the problem is...
Either he's changed some important people in his inner circle over the years...
Or he's just lost his fucking mind...

You sometimes wonder how difficult it must be to make a really good movie these days...especially because it seemed so easy and natural to make good films back in the day...
And it's not just DePalma...

There's so many classics of cinema that can't seem to make a good movie to save their life...or their career...

We should start a Zoner Script Charity or something where we help resurrect and keep alive these great directors' careers by creating the scripts for them...
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Re: THE FILMS OF BRIAN DEPALMA

Postby WinslowLeach on Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:39 am

If he could get a script by Mamet or Stone again,it would be great. But I think it depends on what hes making. If hes doing his own films (like Redacted), you wont get the same thing if hes doing a big studio film like MI that has the best screenwriters. DePalma has always had two sides to his film work, the more subversive, personal, underground side and the pop/big budget side. He can do both.
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Re: THE FILMS OF BRIAN DEPALMA

Postby magicmonkey on Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:48 am

havocSchultz wrote:
We should start a Zoner Script Charity or something where we help resurrect and keep alive these great directors' careers by creating the scripts for them...


Haha! I like it!
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Re: THE FILMS OF BRIAN DEPALMA

Postby LaDracul on Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:05 pm

Okay, old news as I mention it in every talk back and even in the Movie News thread-

http://blogs.amctv.com/monsterfest/2008/04/brian-de-palma-trademark-visual-style.php

And as I say in most of these, I really hope he's picked up on current youth culture. And hopefully read the original novel instead of going overboard on the Faust theme. And probably the fact that after the Andrew Lloyd Webber one, the Phantom became more of a sex symbol. I'm not saying he SHOULDN'T be horribly scarred, but he needs to ditch the Gatchaman outfit for something more Visual Kei...

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Truly more inconspicuous.

And he should sing, dammit! Cripes, did he want to go that far to shock people by having him get his teeth yanked out involuntarily?

Also, he should make Swann more like Simon Cowell since Phil Spector probably killed that one woman, and that's very life imitating art...

And get Edgar Wright to direct it. :D

Hell, if I had enough money and sway in Hollywood, I would've already remade it.
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Re: THE FILMS OF BRIAN DEPALMA

Postby Chris a.k.a StuntMike on Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:04 am

I just have to put in my vote for sig of the year :lol:
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Re: THE FILMS OF BRIAN DEPALMA

Postby Archive on Fri Nov 07, 2008 5:59 pm

You know guys, I really did love The Black Dahlia. I wouldn't exactly call it noir, although it is clearly a pulpy detective story.

That, plus Aaron Eckhardt, plus Scrlett Johansson, plus a great script and creepy, reach-around direction equals happy.
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Re: THE FILMS OF BRIAN DEPALMA

Postby Chris a.k.a StuntMike on Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:20 pm

Archive wrote:You know guys, I really did love The Black Dahlia. I wouldn't exactly call it noir, although it is clearly a pulpy detective story.

That, plus Aaron Eckhardt, plus Scrlett Johansson, plus a great script and creepy, reach-around direction equals happy.

I'll have to agree. I enjoyed it. The scenes where DePalma is "interviewing" the girl are semi-creepy.
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Re: THE FILMS OF BRIAN DEPALMA

Postby DaleTremont on Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:59 am

Archive wrote:You know guys, I really did love The Black Dahlia. I wouldn't exactly call it noir, although it is clearly a pulpy detective story.

That, plus Aaron Eckhardt, plus Scrlett Johansson, plus a great script and creepy, reach-around direction equals happy.


Ugh. The thing is, maybe if I hadn't read James Ellroy's book and I had no expectations beyond utterly absurd cheese and sexy large-breasted retro les porn...okay then I would have dug it. But I thought the movie really did the story no justice at all. There were certain shots I liked, even certain scenes, and Hilary Swank was pretty great, and yet, overall, it was a bad parody of the material. I just kept thinking, what would David Fincher have done if he'd brought half the intensity and care he had to Zodiac?
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Re: THE FILMS OF BRIAN DEPALMA

Postby Archive on Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:22 pm

DaleTremont wrote:
Archive wrote:You know guys, I really did love The Black Dahlia. I wouldn't exactly call it noir, although it is clearly a pulpy detective story.

That, plus Aaron Eckhardt, plus Scrlett Johansson, plus a great script and creepy, reach-around direction equals happy.


Ugh. The thing is, maybe if I hadn't read James Ellroy's book and I had no expectations beyond utterly absurd cheese and sexy large-breasted retro les porn...okay then I would have dug it. But I thought the movie really did the story no justice at all. There were certain shots I liked, even certain scenes, and Hilary Swank was pretty great, and yet, overall, it was a bad parody of the material. I just kept thinking, what would David Fincher have done if he'd brought half the intensity and care he had to Zodiac?



That's fair - I never did read the book. Plus, I'm a sucker for Aaron Eckhardt.
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Re: THE FILMS OF BRIAN DEPALMA

Postby Chris a.k.a StuntMike on Fri Nov 14, 2008 1:45 pm

DaleTremont wrote:
Archive wrote:You know guys, I really did love The Black Dahlia. I wouldn't exactly call it noir, although it is clearly a pulpy detective story.

That, plus Aaron Eckhardt, plus Scrlett Johansson, plus a great script and creepy, reach-around direction equals happy.


Ugh. The thing is, maybe if I hadn't read James Ellroy's book and I had no expectations beyond utterly absurd cheese and sexy large-breasted retro les porn...okay then I would have dug it. But I thought the movie really did the story no justice at all. There were certain shots I liked, even certain scenes, and Hilary Swank was pretty great, and yet, overall, it was a bad parody of the material. I just kept thinking, what would David Fincher have done if he'd brought half the intensity and care he had to Zodiac?

We may have a chance. Fincher's upcoming Torso is pretty similar in subject matter:
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David Fincher is also attached to direct an adaptation of Marc Andreyko and Brian Michael Bendis' graphic novel Torso, with Jake Gyllenhaal attached to the lead role, reuniting him with Fincher after Zodiac.[8] On September 5, 2008, Firstshowing.net reported that Matt Damon is in talks to play Eliot Ness in Torso, and that the producers were looking for locations in Cleveland, Ohio.
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Re: THE FILMS OF BRIAN DEPALMA

Postby comicbookmovies on Sun Nov 16, 2008 7:19 pm

Carlito's Way is a fine performance by Al pacino. I enjoy it much more than the massively overhyped Scarface.
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Re: THE FILMS OF BRIAN DEPALMA

Postby redeemerE on Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:17 pm

I'd hate to say it but Brian Depalma has lost his touch. This guy had a promising future, but he peaked with Scarface and just went down hill from there. Carrie and Scarface are his only work of arts. The others fall short. :(
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Re: THE FILMS OF BRIAN DEPALMA

Postby Spandau Belly on Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:45 pm

I'll post this here as well...



Brian DePalma's next film, PASSION, looks like a return to sleazy voyeuristic form. It unites Rachel McAdams and Noomi Rapace in a cinematic Canadian-Swedish love sandwich.

It's a remake of CRIME D'AMOUR, a French film from 2010 which I didn't see. The original starred Kristen Scott Thomas and Ludivine Sagnier and got so-so reviews.

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Re: THE FILMS OF BRIAN DEPALMA

Postby Spandau Belly on Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:18 pm

Brian DePalma and Al Pacino to reunite again for a drama about sports and molestation.

AICN wrote:With a whole new, utterly bizarre scandal brewing in college football as I type this, I'm not as stunned by this news I'd normally be. Al Pacino to play Joe Paterno for his SCARFACE/CARLITO'S WAY director Brian De Palma? Sure. Why not.

As a hardcore De Palma-phile, I'm thrilled with anything that gets him back behind the camera (especially after he departed Jason Statham's upcoming HEAT), and if this turns into a mutability-of-truth narrative, it'll obviously be right in his wheelhouse. But it's far too early to speculate. Right now, here's what we know (per Deadline): the tentative title of the film is HAPPY VALLEY, producer Edward R. Pressman has optioned Joe Posnanski's PATERNO (which the sportswriter began writing long before the Jerry Sandusky scandal broke), and Dave McKenna (AMERICAN HISTORY X) is in talks to write the script. Pressman says he "can't think of a better duo to tell this story of a complex, intensely righteous man who was brought down by his own tragic flaw."

This is exceptionally tricky material, if only because we'll probably never know exactly how much Paterno knew, and how far he went to protect himself/the football program (they were one and the same). I'm morbidly curious as to who will play Sandusky, the former Penn State defensive coordinator who is currently serving a thirty-to-sixty-year prison sentence after being found guilty on forty-five counts of child molestation. Most of all, I can't wait to see how De Palma and McKenna shape the narrative. This will likely be a very controversial film.


I've never heard of any of these people or events, but I'm guessing that they were big news in USA. This material seems like an odd fit for DePalma, who I mostly associate with pulpier fare. This feels more like the edgy docudrama style of Oliver Stone.
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Postby travis-dane on Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:31 pm

Pacino and de Palma made two great movies together, Scarface and Carlitos Way. If they do another one, I am looking forward to it.
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Re: THE FILMS OF BRIAN DEPALMA

Postby so sorry on Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:55 pm

travis-dane wrote:Pacino and de Palma made two great movies together, Scarface and Carlitos Way. If they do another one, I am looking forward to it.



Well Scarface and Carlito's Way shared some common themes, themes that were right up Pacino and DePalma's alley.

This subject matter is not even in the same universe. I'm surprised Pacino is doing this now, considering his last big "dramatic" role was another biopic about a controversial old man (Kavorkian).
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Re: THE FILMS OF BRIAN DEPALMA

Postby Spandau Belly on Tue May 28, 2013 4:29 pm

PASSION

This is a film about Noomi and Rachel. They are both foreign bisexual advertising executives who have colonized Germany and use its lesbians as their servants. Their office is located on the lawn in front of the Reichstag. Nobody is on the lawn between their office and the Reichstag, so they must've killed all the anti-nuclear power protestors and banned tourism. Noomi and Rachel share a penis named Dirk. Dirk has a scarf. They also share the scarf. Dirk is embezzling, possibly to pay for the scarf. It takes an office full of lesbians to realize that women's asses can be sexualized, and that sex can be used to sell things. It's a good thing Marshall McLuhan is dead because he would probably be really embarassed for not figuring that one out himself. Talk about a hot medium, hubba-hubba.

Noomi routinely drinks cups full of sleeping pills in front of her co-workers. She smashes her car around in the parking garage like she's playing bumper cars. She laughs like a lunatic at group social events. She is considered a stable employee with a promising future. Rachel uses her corporate clout to negotiate a deal in which she has sex with Dirk The Embezzling Penis while watching a video of Dirk fucking Noomi, but then also calls Noomi on videophone to show her this, which is a lot of voyeurism even for Brian DePalma.

The first act is really boring. It feels like it's maybe trying to be a serious movie about corporate culture, like a chick version of WALL STREET. Then the middle portion turns into your typical zany DePalma melodrama with operatic fetishism and violence all filmed in extreme camera angles, split screens, and tracking shots. I liked the middle portion. Then in the final act it turns into MULLHOLLAND DRIVE or something. It's like DePalma didn't show up until the middle of the movie and then left early and so the crew just did the rest of the movie themselves.

I went to see this movie hoping for a return to the sleazy pulpy 90s erotic thriller genre which I enjoyed. Movies like WILD THINGS and CRUEL INTENTIONS were generally pretty entertaining to me and I thought DePalma and two sexy talented actresses could easily make a movie that was as fun as those. The movie is definitely silly, but rarely fun. There isn't really any snap to the dialogue, nor does it go for the outright exploitive vulgarity of a masterpiece such as SHOWGIRLS.

I'm willing to accept that sexy German lesbian secretaries are ninjas with no personal lives, but the most of the film's various twists don't really add up, even by outlandish movie logic. I'm not going to spoil the end for you, mostly because I don't know what happened even though I watched it and didn't blink.

I went to this movie hoping to laugh and get some boners watching an old master at work, and I did, but I still consider this movie pretty weak.
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Re: THE FILMS OF BRIAN DEPALMA

Postby Spandau Belly on Thu Jun 18, 2015 9:09 am

A year or so ago I got around to reading The Bonfire of The Vanities by Tom Wolfe and found it lived up to its reputation as a modern masterpiece. I was aware that there was a film adaptation by Brian DePalma that was widely regarded as one of the great Hollywood trainwrecks. Reading the novel, I couldn't for the life of me imagine Tom Hanks as Sherman McCoy. After reading the book, I figured if I ever had the opportunity, I would check out the film to see if they really butchered it as badly as people claim.

Yes, it is bad.

Surprisingly, more of the novel ended up on screen than I expected. I think almost every scene in the film is actually from the novel. The overall basic plot remains mostly intact. Yet the most important aspects of the story don't really register. The movie fails to really be about anything. It's just a bunch of stuff that happens. I'd actually be curious to hear the thoughts of somebody who hadn't read the novel but saw the film and hear what they thought it was supposed to be.

DePalma is a pulp director, he deals in sleaze and shock and outlandish twists and elaborate sequences. He's not a subtle storyteller. The novel was quite detailed and complex. I figured DePalma could maybe come at the story from a different angle by bringing the same kind of satirical excess he brought to SCARFACE, but he just never seems to find a way to make his sensibilities mesh with the material. I think a broad approach to the material could've maybe worked if they played it like something along the lines of HEATHERS, but the broad approach taken in this adaptation doesn't fly.

The cast is even more baffling. Many of the lead roles are miscast and made worse by actors giving bad performances in roles they shouldn't be playing anyway. Other actors are actually quite well suited to the roles they're given, but do horrible work. I know Kim Catrall isn't considered the world's greatest actress, but this is a role she should've been able to cold read and it ends up being a likely career worst for her. There's a few actors that come out of this relatively clean (F. Murray Abraham being one) but most of this cast should be embarassed.
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Re: THE FILMS OF BRIAN DEPALMA

Postby Spandau Belly on Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:48 am

Criterion is issuing a bluray of DRESSED TO KILL in August. The disc will have more interviews with De Palma done by Noah Boambach just like on their BLOW OUT disc. As usual, De Palma does not do feature-length commentary tracks. I haven't seen this one in a long time, I remember it being a lot of fun when I was young.

I revisited BODY DOUBLE a few nights ago, and it's still a ton of fun. I don't think it really makes a lick of sense, but it's stylish enough to make that not really matter. You either just go with it or don't, and I dig it.
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Re: THE FILMS OF BRIAN DEPALMA

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Re: THE FILMS OF BRIAN DEPALMA

Postby TheButcher on Thu Jun 09, 2016 8:01 pm

Review: 'De Palma' is more than just a casual appraisal of a director's work
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