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BOLT, Disney's Bastardization of Chris Sanders' American Dog

Postby Evil Hobbit on Tue Dec 19, 2006 7:11 pm

Couldn't find an American Dog topic yet but this news is one of those odd like Howard Shore fired from scoring King Kong.

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CHRIS SANDERS NO LONGER DIRECTING AMERICAN DOG
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The Internet started buzzing last Thursday when the blog Newlywed in Dubai reported that Chris Sanders (LILO AND STITCH) had been "fired" as director of Disney's AMERICAN DOG (scheduled for release in 2008). Many people, myself included, have really been looking forward to this film, and it's hard to believe that Disney, under the new enlightened leadership of John Lasseter and Ed Catmull, would remove a talent like Sanders from his pet project. But that's exactly what has happened and it may not be such a bad thing.

Last Wednesday, December 13, Disney's feature animation division experienced layoffs that affected all departments from artistic to production support. That is not news. The announcement that the studio was laying off approximately 160 people had already been made a few weeks before. What surprised many though was that on the same day, Chris Sanders was relieved of directing duties on AMERICAN DOG.

Having spoken to some people who are close to the production, the decision to separate Sanders from his "baby" most likely came from John Lasseter and Ed Catmull. Even though MEET THE ROBINSONS (scheduled for release in March 07) will be the first film released during the the new Lasseter/Catmull era, it was in production long before they arrived and neither of the Pixar bosses will be under scrutiny for how it performs. AMERICAN DOG, on the other hand, has fallen clearly under their creative supervision, and they know that their first outing at Disney Feature Animation has to result in a high-quality, commercially successful product.

It's unclear exactly why Sanders wasn't allowed to stay on the picture. Last October, Jim Hill suggested on his site that Lasseter thought the film was "too quirky for its own good" and had asked Sanders to make significant story changes. Or perhaps the pre-Lasseter/Catmull management had fiddled around with it too much and the film had deviated from Sanders's original vision. Whatever the reason, Lasseter and Catmull apparently felt that the best way to get the project back on track was to start with a clean slate, much like what happened with Pixar's upcoming RATATOUILLE when Brad Bird took over directorial duties from Jan Pinkava.

One Disney artist I spoke to suggested that after everything Sanders has had to put up with on AMERICAN DOG, he may be feeling a bit of relief knowing that he no longer has to deal with this project. At this point, there's still every reason to be hopeful for AMERICAN DOG. It's unfortunate that it won't be Chris Sanders's original vision, but when Lasseter and Catmull remove an unquestionable talent like him, one has to assume that they are doing it in the film's best interest. As for Sanders, I certainly don't think he'll have any difficulties getting a new project off the ground, whether it's at Disney or elsewhere.

UPDATE: An individual who knows a lot about the situation wrote to take issue with the statement that Chris Sanders felt "relief" at being taken off AMERICAN DOG. Sanders had apparently been informed before last Wednesday that he was no longer going to be the director, and according to this source, was deeply disappointed, hurt and angered. The source also writes, "Chris felt like his heart had been ripped out, and he didn't expect if from someone (Lasseter) who always talks about a director-driven studio model. This was totally Chris' project from the start, he was pouring himself into it, and now he's fired."

UPDATE #2: Animation director Mark Mayerson writes on his BLOG about the AMERICAN DOG situation: "I do not expect Pixar to make any public statements about this, but I think they should. If they don't, Pixar's reputation within the business may be seriously damaged."

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As stated, in update 1, it's realy odd for a person like Lasseter who's always praising the directors visionary freedom on creating films. Like the way they do at Ghibli's and the way they also act as Pixar. Embrace the creators and the story to creat unique compelling stories. Give the studio to the creators instead of the creators to the studio. Hope they give a statement on this.
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Postby Evil Hobbit on Tue Dec 19, 2006 7:16 pm

Then again, they probably have there reasons. Never looked into the plot but just loved the concept arts on the web. Very unique look to it. And I love lilo and stitch. So I just read the plot on imdb and well, it's kinda typical.

From the creator of Lilo & Stitch comes the charmingly twisted story of a canine TV star who finds himself stranded in the most forsaken hundred miles of the Nevada with an oversize bunny and a testy cat.


Sounds like a rehashed plot, yet, well executed can deliver something totally original to it.
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Postby buster00 on Tue Dec 19, 2006 7:22 pm

I like those stills. It is indeed a unique look.

Here's hoping they get it off the ground.

I can't believe I just said that about a Disney film...
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Postby Ribbons on Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:09 pm

Interesting. If Lasseter truly said that the film is "too quirky for its own good," then Sanders was probably fired from the project to make the film more commercially palatable. Whether that's to the benefit or the detriment of the final product from an artistic standpoint will be impossible to discern, unless Sanders is willing to speak at length about why he was fired.

This news bothers me. I'd hoped that Lasseter would be able to make Disney more like Pixar rather than the other way around. Hopefully this isn't going to be a theme of the Lasseter/Catmull era as more animated movies are released.
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Postby minstrel on Wed Dec 20, 2006 3:20 am

So is the movie canceled completely? Or is it progressing with a new director?

I have a lot of faith in Lasseter. Many excellent films were made under his supervision. I do not necessarily have a lot of faith in Disney. They made Atlantis. And I don't really have a lot of faith in Sanders - Lilo and Stitch was OK, but not great. It had some good character moments, and quirky dialogue, but it also had some ludicrous spaceship-battle stuff that really took me out of the film and kinda ruined it.

And Stitch isn't so much a character as a bundle of jokes. He's an animaniac. I wish there'd been a clearer concept for him.

So I'm giving Lasseter the benefit of the doubt.
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Postby buster00 on Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:21 am

Ribbons wrote:Interesting. If Lasseter truly said that the film is "too quirky for its own good," then Sanders was probably fired from the project to make the film more commercially palatable.



And THAT is why Disney will ALWAYS suck shit. If someone were taking bets, this theory is definitely where I would lay my money.
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Postby AtomicHyperbole on Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:02 am

minstrel wrote:So is the movie canceled completely? Or is it progressing with a new director?

I have a lot of faith in Lasseter. Many excellent films were made under his supervision. I do not necessarily have a lot of faith in Disney. They made Atlantis. And I don't really have a lot of faith in Sanders - Lilo and Stitch was OK, but not great. It had some good character moments, and quirky dialogue, but it also had some ludicrous spaceship-battle stuff that really took me out of the film and kinda ruined it.

And Stitch isn't so much a character as a bundle of jokes. He's an animaniac. I wish there'd been a clearer concept for him.

So I'm giving Lasseter the benefit of the doubt.


I think it's worth bearing in mind that Sanders, although having a lot of freedom as the execs viewed Stitch as a "small" project and were pretty hands off, still had to work within a commercially viable box to get it finished.

Like Ribbons, this news and reading this concerns me somewhat. I do, however, get the feeling that this might be a clash of interests... maybe Lasseter is trying to divide the two camps into definite areas. It could even be that Sanders was creating something that didn't fit the vision of the company or the Disney name. I feel this because looking at American Dog and knowing what I know about it, it doesn't LOOK like a Disney film, and these days - where Disney has become a morass of different styles - that's important. Despite their disparate design styles, Pixar movies still have a look that's resolutely theirs, as does Aardman... all great studios do, or in the case of Disney, did. It wouldn't suprise me if Lasseter had to let something or someone go because they didn't fit into the requirements of the company... a cold view, maybe, but it would make some kind of sense.

In fact, whilst writing this, I took a break to find a link for you guys at Animation Nation where the artists go to chat... you can't join the board there unless you can be proven as a worker in the industry... anyhoo... Jim Hill Media ALSO thinks this is the case. What with Pixar and Disney BOTH creating feature animation, do you think it's wise to compete with eachother when you're under the same wing?

Hence, maybe the return (at last) of 2D at Disney?
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Postby Chilli on Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:42 am

I think this is the first sign that Lasseter can't continue with the idealistic concept of 'director driven animated films' while also being responsible for the majority of Disney output. Bottom line here is money, and mainstream animation NEEDS to make a huge amount to get into profit.
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Postby TheButcher on Mon Nov 26, 2007 1:15 pm

Disney's AMERICAN DOG gets 3-D treatment!
BOLT (the new title of AMERICAN DOG) will hit digital 3-D and 2-D screens this time next year


Chris Williams, a vet story artist at the Mouse, is now directing 2008 release "American Dog." Pic was developed and previously under the control of "Lilo & Stitch" helmer Chris Sanders, who recently left Disney

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From the creator of LILO & STITCH our first look at AMERICAN DOG!!!!
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How Disney is fixing "American Dog"
Gone is Chris Sanders' quirk-filled take on this tale. Which (for those of you who've already forgotten) went something like this:


"Henry, a famous TV dog, finds himself stranded in the Nevada desert. Out in the world for the first time, Henry's tidy life of scripted triumph has come to an end, and his 2,000 mile trek through the real world is just beginning."

So that giant radioactive rabbit & the cat with the eye patch who previously appeared in this picture? They're gone. Likewise the version of this film's storyline that was mostly set in the American Southwest. Even the title character has been radically rethunk. He's no longer a cute little round brown hound dog. But -- rather -- a heroic-looking white German Shepherd with a lightning bolt-shaped patch that runs down the left side of his body.

In fact, Bolt is actually this character's new name. And Bolt stars with Penny (a 12-year-old girl) in the hit television show, "American Dog." Which those familiar with this production have described as " ... Johnny Quest meets James Bond."


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Postby Ribbons on Fri Dec 28, 2007 3:05 am

Eesh. Bolt! doesn't look anything like American Dog used to. In fact it looks more like Krypto the Superdog than anything else.

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I really hope that Lasseter is making the right call on this one, but I still mourn what could have been, y'know?
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Postby DerLanghaarige on Fri Dec 28, 2007 3:34 am

I hate it when this happens. Doesn't matter if live action or animation, if you replace a director while he is working on the movie something usually something half assed comes out. (But who am I telling this. I guess you all know what I mean.)
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Postby Lady Sheridan on Fri Dec 28, 2007 3:56 am

I saw this on the main site too--I'm with Mori, I love the still with the bunny. Now it just looks vaguely generic and unexciting somehow.

The shot of him looking at Mount Rushmore is lovely too, it has a wistful, WALL*E thing going for it.

Bummer. I still haven't seen Lilo and Stitch, so I can't comment but there was something quite cool about that concept art. And I liked the idea of the American Southwest--the setting was one of the things I dug about CARS. This could have been quite beautiful.
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Postby Dr William Weir on Fri Dec 28, 2007 6:47 am

Lilo and Stitch was really quite a charming film and you'd be doing yourself a favour by watching it. A very small film too, and was for the main overlooked by the Disney Overlords (good friends of mine now) at the time despite it being a success. This, however, looks like it's had the guts ripped from it in the name of entertainment.

I get the feeling Chris Sanders would probably be the Wes Anderson of the animation world (before Wes Anderson moved into animation) were this released in his original vision. It's a shame Disney didn't.
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Postby Retardo_Montalban on Fri Dec 28, 2007 6:57 am

Bolt looks like a tool of the man. He's the type of dog that plays off rebellious, but only rebels in socially and politically acceptable ways.

"Let's all have an adventure fellas! But only to attain a lofty yet admirable goal, and we'll make friends along the way."
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Postby AndreZX on Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:38 pm

Had to jump in on this.

I just saw the production still from Bolt, looked it up and found that this is what happened to American Dog!

I was devastated! This new look is 100% generic (although the painterly style of it is very impressive, I'm not impressed with the character designs at all.) I fell in love with the American Dog project the first time I saw that shot of him and the cat with the eyepatch in the convertible, and then they turned around and chopped it into this cookie-cutter crap. Lilo and Stitch is probably one of my favorite Disney movies, and it pains me to think of what they've thrown away to go with Bolt.

Oh well. Only time will tell.
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Postby minstrel on Sun Dec 30, 2007 1:02 pm

DerLanghaarige wrote:I hate it when this happens. Doesn't matter if live action or animation, if you replace a director while he is working on the movie something usually something half assed comes out. (But who am I telling this. I guess you all know what I mean.)


Ratatouille?
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Postby Ribbons on Sun Dec 30, 2007 4:24 pm

minstrel wrote:
DerLanghaarige wrote:Doesn't matter if live action or animation, if you replace a director while he is working on the movie something usually something half assed comes out. (But who am I telling this. I guess you all know what I mean.)


Ratatouille?


Touché!
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Postby Chairman Kaga on Sun Dec 30, 2007 4:38 pm

DerLanghaarige wrote:I hate it when this happens. Doesn't matter if live action or animation, if you replace a director while he is working on the movie something usually something half assed comes out. (But who am I telling this. I guess you all know what I mean.)

You mean like Ratatouille?
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Postby DerLanghaarige on Sun Dec 30, 2007 5:34 pm

So you're saying that because one single movie that has been taken over by one of the biggest filmmaking geniuses of our time turned out to be one of the best films of the year, we should be happy everytime a director gets replaced in the middle of making his movie?
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Postby LeFlambeur on Sun Dec 30, 2007 5:41 pm

Lets face it, there was no way that Disney was ever going to release this:

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I can already hear the PC lynch mob groaning: Pistols, gambling, and (gasp) cigarettes! How dare you show this to our children?!

I can see how this sort of thing would scare them off of a project.Too bad. The early visuals looked stunning. It lacked that overly plastic look I often associate with pixar. I thought of the glowing visuals as vaguely remenicent of Januz Kaminski's cinematography.
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Postby Chairman Kaga on Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:08 pm

DerLanghaarige wrote:So you're saying that because one single movie that has been taken over by one of the biggest filmmaking geniuses of our time turned out to be one of the best films of the year, we should be happy everytime a director gets replaced in the middle of making his movie?

No I'm saying everyone's freaking out over nothing. This is not uncommon in animation...not at all.

Yeah PIXAR is soooo afraid to show smoking or guns (cough Incredibles cough)
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Postby LeFlambeur on Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:13 pm

Chairman Kaga wrote:Yeah PIXAR is soooo afraid to show smoking or guns (cough Incredibles cough)


oh oops, missed that one. :oops:
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Postby Evil Hobbit on Mon Dec 31, 2007 6:16 am

Ribbons wrote:Eesh. Bolt! doesn't look anything like American Dog used to. In fact it looks more like Krypto the Superdog than anything else.

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I really hope that Lasseter is making the right call on this one, but I still mourn what could have been, y'know?


That Bolt looks hideous. What's this Potter rip nonsense doing there? So far I hate it, the old style and the moving footage looks so great. It has a unique new style. The new still is a bit the standard animated look. I do like the pastel touch to it, specially the background looks great. We'll see...
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Postby Chilli on Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:35 am

Eh, I've seen ever Pixar film bar the last one, and so far they have a terrific track-record. Though the pics aren't as interesting as the originals, they're worth the benefit of the doubt.
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Re: BOLT, Disney's Bastardization of Chris Sanders' American Dog

Postby Maui on Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:54 pm

Interesting. Thanks for the redirect Ribbons!

I don't think any movie about dogs will ever surpass "Lady and the Tramp".
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Re: BOLT, Disney's Bastardization of Chris Sanders' American Dog

Postby Peven on Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:18 pm

its not like they brought in Ratner or anything, geesh. and the trailer for it looks alright, as good as movies like "Over the Hedge" anyway......i'm betting the hamster will be good for a few good laughs anyway
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Re: BOLT, Disney's Bastardization of Chris Sanders' American Dog

Postby Ribbons on Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:36 pm

Peven wrote:the trailer for it looks alright, as good as movies like "Over the Hedge" anyway......i'm betting the hamster will be good for a few good laughs anyway


You're right about that, and I would say that those movies are decent, but I'm kind of bummed because I think American Dog could have been so much more. I like to see interesting failures, and at the very least it would have been that. But I'm also bummed just because I thought that Lasseter would be more protective of his directors, at least give them the chance to fail before you take their movie away from them, you know?
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Re: BOLT, Disney's Bastardization of Chris Sanders' American Dog

Postby Chairman Kaga on Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:38 pm

Ribbons wrote:
Peven wrote:the trailer for it looks alright, as good as movies like "Over the Hedge" anyway......i'm betting the hamster will be good for a few good laughs anyway


You're right about that, and I would say that those movies are decent, but I'm kind of bummed because I think American Dog could have been so much more. I like to see interesting failures, and at the very least it would have been that. But I'm also bummed just because I thought that Lasseter would be more protective of his directors, at least give them the chance to fail before you take their movie away from them, you know?

Protective yes but he has to be logical and this movie was under development for waaaaaay too long.
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Re: BOLT, Disney's Bastardization of Chris Sanders' American Dog

Postby buster00 on Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:07 am

Wow, I'm way behind on this story! I'd forgotten all about American Dog, and I even said in some other thread that this Bolt movie "looks kinda cute."

Shit, man. I'd rather have seen American Dog than Bolt any day. That's a goddamn shame, that.
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Re: BOLT, Disney's Bastardization of Chris Sanders' American Dog

Postby Nachokoolaid on Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:16 am

buster00 wrote:Wow, I'm way behind on this story! I'd forgotten all about American Dog, and I even said in some other thread that this Bolt movie "looks kinda cute."

Shit, man. I'd rather have seen American Dog than Bolt any day. That's a goddamn shame, that.


Agreed. This may be the first Pixar film I don't see in theatres, based solely on principle. Bolt looks like a neutered version of American Dog. It just seemed to have such a distinct art style, while Bolt looks like every non-Pixar CGI film that's been released in the last 3-4 years. Bah.
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Re: BOLT, Disney's Bastardization of Chris Sanders' American Dog

Postby Chairman Kaga on Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:38 am

Nachokoolaid wrote:
buster00 wrote:Wow, I'm way behind on this story! I'd forgotten all about American Dog, and I even said in some other thread that this Bolt movie "looks kinda cute."

Shit, man. I'd rather have seen American Dog than Bolt any day. That's a goddamn shame, that.


Agreed. This may be the first Pixar film I don't see in theatres, based solely on principle. Bolt looks like a neutered version of American Dog. It just seemed to have such a distinct art style, while Bolt looks like every non-Pixar CGI film that's been released in the last 3-4 years. Bah.

It's not a PIXAR film.
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Postby Maui on Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:51 am

LeFlambeur wrote:Lets face it, there was no way that Disney was ever going to release this:

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I can already hear the PC lynch mob groaning: Pistols, gambling, and (gasp) cigarettes! How dare you show this to our children?!

I can see how this sort of thing would scare them off of a project.Too bad. The early visuals looked stunning. It lacked that overly plastic look I often associate with pixar. I thought of the glowing visuals as vaguely remenicent of Januz Kaminski's cinematography.


Yup, you're right. Too bad, the animation is so much more distinctive and unique.
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Re: BOLT, Disney's Bastardization of Chris Sanders' American Dog

Postby Peven on Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:14 am

from a few stills people seem to be pretty sure how great American Dog was going to be, even though the guy behind it hasn't made even one truly strong film yet. "Lilo & Stitch" was as flawed as it was good and imo not among the top tier of animated movies released in the last decade. so what if they had a few pretty conceptual art shots, that is pretty friggin far from producing a quality film.
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Re: BOLT, Disney's Bastardization of Chris Sanders' American Dog

Postby Maui on Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:31 am

Not great, just unique. I go to just about every animated film that hits the theatre, for the most part, it all looks the same (yeah Dreamworks). So when I see something refreshingly new and unique like "Triplets of Belleville" or "Persepolis" or "Curse of the Were Rabbit" - I'm rather psyched. With these films we have something different and usually a funny/fresh story to be told.

So with the few stills that "American Dog" revealed, it did look like something different, edgy - that I'm sure alot of us would really sink our teeth into. Who knows, "Bolt" may be really good and I may end up going, but it just has that same 'generic' animated look that so many of these films have.
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Re: BOLT, Disney's Bastardization of Chris Sanders' American Dog

Postby Peven on Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:07 am

Maui wrote:Not great, just unique. I go to just about every animated film that hits the theatre, for the most part, it all looks the same (yeah Dreamworks). So when I see something refreshingly new and unique like "Triplets of Belleville" or "Persepolis" or "Curse of the Were Rabbit" - I'm rather psyched. With these films we have something different and usually a funny/fresh story to be told.

So with the few stills that "American Dog" revealed, it did look like something different, edgy - that I'm sure alot of us would really sink our teeth into. Who knows, "Bolt" may be really good and I may end up going, but it just has that same 'generic' animated look that so many of these films have.



i have to say, i am very wary of that approach, because imo it is good writing and direction that should drive a movie, whether animated or otherwise, and putting such importance on coming up with some new look or style produces the style-without-substance we see so much in Hollywood, imo. as pretty as Pixar movies are to look at it is the writing, the story, the dedication to creating characters we care about that make Pixar so special in the final equation, not their CGI aptitude. there are many examples of movies that have looked "cool" in trailers but the writing was ass and it didn't matter how pretty or unique-looking the movie was.
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Re: BOLT, Disney's Bastardization of Chris Sanders' American Dog

Postby Maui on Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:41 pm

Peven wrote:
it is good writing and direction that should drive a movie, whether animated or otherwise, and putting such importance on coming up with some new look or style produces the style-without-substance we see so much in Hollywood


I agree, good writing and direction is critical. But there should be equal doses of it, is what I'm trying to say - like in my examples of "Persepolis", "Were Rabbit" and "Bellville". We have some cutting edge stuff with great direction and story. I don't think a movie can totally get by with great direction and story if the animation just royally sucks. I also need to be dazzled visually. We need the right recipe here - equal parts.

For example, Blue Sky Animation - they do some great work. "Ice Age", more recently "Horton Hears a Who". They are some good competition for Pixar in my opinion. "Horton" had brilliant animation - different, they completely captured the WHO vibe, however the story was a mess. To me, alot of these animation houses just don't get both parts right, they either excel in one area: animation OR story. Usually it's the animation that is superior. Pixar seems to know how to do both. Dreamworks, I'm hopeful. With Kung Fu Panda they broke out of their "Shrek" stuff, did some cool animation and had a pretty decent story, with some philosphical tones to it.

What was my point? lol

I don't know what "Bolt" will be like. I'm not going to pan it before I see it, not fair. Animation looks "generic" so the story/direction better be good.
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Re: BOLT, Disney's Bastardization of Chris Sanders' American Dog

Postby Retardo_Montalban on Sat Jul 05, 2008 1:33 am

The reason why I really liked the concepts for American Dog and I'm hesitant about bolt isn't so much how edgy it is, but the fact that it looked as though it was breaking away from the formulaic, cliched, mediocre feature that is saturated in today's film. I watched the preview for Bolt and I pretty much have the whole plot mapped out in my mind along with every corny kid friendly joke that can possibly come up. Even if American Dog failed, at least its unique vision would give it a fighting chance in becoming an indelible part of our culture. Bolt will definitely make tons of money and kids will buy the merchandising, but it'll be as easily forgotten as Chicken Little.
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Re: BOLT, Disney's Bastardization of Chris Sanders' American Dog

Postby tapehead on Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:52 am

Maui wrote:I don't know what "Bolt" will be like. I'm not going to pan it before I see it, not fair. Animation looks "generic" so the story/direction better be good.


It's two big 'voices' are John Travolata and Miley Cyrus - I think it's ok to have an opinion with regard to how it is shaping up; it might possibly be a little ordinary.


There's a few more nice images here of the movie that never got finished - I'm alwaysa big sucker for wondering 'what might have been' when I read about projects that are sidelined or shutdown like this.
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Re: BOLT, Disney's Bastardization of Chris Sanders' American Dog

Postby Peven on Sat Jul 05, 2008 11:10 am

yeah, i think if there is something to be worried about it is who is doing the voicework. i wonder if Travolta and Cyrus were booked prior to the change in animation styles.
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Re: BOLT, Disney's Bastardization of Chris Sanders' American Dog

Postby tapehead on Sat Jul 05, 2008 11:16 am

Travolta was, along with Thomas Haden Church and Bruce Greenwood, but I think Miley is a new addition - American Dog wasn't that far along into developments as far as I can tell from what I've read, I may be wrong.
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Re: BOLT, Disney's Bastardization of Chris Sanders' American Dog

Postby Peven on Sat Jul 05, 2008 11:43 am

i wonder who is doing the voice of the hamster. the best parts of the trailer were his lines

with Cyrus onboard i think they must be going more for a mainstream commercial movie they can count on to make decent bank

who knows what kind of long term pipeline plan they are looking at, maybe they needed a more dependably commercial movie to fill a slot and it was easier to convert this project to that instead of starting from scratch.
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Re: BOLT, Disney's Bastardization of Chris Sanders' American Dog

Postby tapehead on Sat Jul 05, 2008 11:50 am

Dunno - gorgeous pictures though, right?
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Re: BOLT, Disney's Bastardization of Chris Sanders' American Dog

Postby Peven on Sat Jul 05, 2008 11:57 am

i DO like those early images and it would be pretty cool if they end up using that style for a movie with writing and voice-acting to match that quality

i am not so sure Sanders has the ability to pull it off though, as i don't see anything in "Lilo & Stitch" to indicate that he can
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Re: BOLT, Disney's Bastardization of Chris Sanders' American Dog

Postby The Vicar on Sun Jul 06, 2008 12:51 am

Why does this feel like Enchanted: It's a Dog's Life?
Seems pretty damned familiar.
My daughter will watch it though, so what the hell.
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Re: BOLT, Disney's Bastardization of Chris Sanders' American Dog

Postby buster00 on Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:23 am

Peven wrote:i wonder who is doing the voice of the hamster. the best parts of the trailer were his lines.


Someone named Mark Walton is the voice of Rhino the Hamster. Reportedly, he's a storyboard artist (and sometime voice talent) for Disney.
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Re: BOLT, Disney's Bastardization of Chris Sanders' American Dog

Postby Maui on Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:13 pm

tapehead wrote:Dunno - gorgeous pictures though, right?


Yes, they most certainly are. Tis a shame. :(
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Re: BOLT, Disney's Bastardization of Chris Sanders' American Dog

Postby so sorry on Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:51 pm

http://www.apple.com/trailers/disney/bolt/

Pretty sure this is a new trailer...
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Re: BOLT, Disney's Bastardization of Chris Sanders' American Dog

Postby Evil Hobbit on Tue Nov 04, 2008 2:38 pm

Oh man, that chase scene looks great. What a massive improvement for Disney in 3d character animation. It has Lasseter written all over it. Think this is going to be a fun film after all.
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Re: BOLT, Disney's Bastardization of Chris Sanders' American Dog

Postby Chairman Kaga on Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:29 pm

Too bad this thread title is so down on the film.
Go fuck yourself.
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Re: BOLT, Disney's Bastardization of Chris Sanders' American Dog

Postby Lord Voldemoo on Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:48 pm

Chairman Kaga wrote:Too bad this thread title is so down on the film.



I dunno...i can't view the new trailer until i get home from work but the trailer i saw in the theater a little while ago was that same cliche Disney stuff I'm kinda tired of. I mean sure, it was funny in parts (particularly the hamster) but it was pure formula.

Hope these clips show me something different.
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