MOVIES THAT NEED TO BE REMADE

[Chairman Kaga]

I think they should remake "3 days of the condor".
That is one underated movie. A smart CIA thriller way before the bourne trilogy.

I agree. Much smarter than Bourne and would be an excellent thriller.

[sallupo]

probably get ruined though. I been working on a spy thriller myself.
more like 3 days. but if they do remake it i hope they do it without
fancy effects. id rather see a wel written script.

[OriginalGagBonkers]

They need to get the guys who wrote the dark knight or Frank Miller to remake this movie

[Archive]

DEFCON 4.

I'm talking about that terrible 80's Canooxploitation film with the totally rad box art.

Generally, I'm not someone who sees the point in remakes. It's more gratifying to see a new approach to familiar ideas or themes. Why get hemmed in? All the same, if I was going to remake one movie, that film would be DEFCON 4.

This film is the single worst offender when it comes to a movie not living up to the box art.

Being an astronaut in space for a nuclear showdown and then descending into the mutant wasteland should, by rights, be awesome. It's ANTIWALL-E.

My first act would take place entirely on the space station, and involve the slow descent into madness from lack of human contact. Two astronauts have to try and squeeze every last bit of life out of a space station that isn't ever going to be replenished, but in the end the batteries won't last, the orbit is disintegrating, and they have to use the lifeboat and plot their own reentry, Apollo 13-style. Maybe there are three astronauts, and one is fatally wounded because of the equipment failures that come with no spare parts, and the other two eat him! Cannibal astronauts. Hmm...

Anyway, they have to come down in the raft or burn up on reentry.

From there on, they've got five hours of air in the space suits, and if they can find a radiation fallout shelter before their air supply runs out, they might just survive without getting radiation contamination.

This movie would be the first film to take place in a proper nuclear winter. Imagine two guys in space suits walking through the abandoned streets of Moscow, long since covered in snow... Badass.

That would be a movie that lived up to the awesome VHS cover art. That box art still taunts me from the dark recesses of the science fiction section in the video store of my dreams...

[Al Shut]

I I#m pretty convinced that despite the fact that no human beeing is cooler than Clint Eastwood a remake of the Eiger Sanction could improve on the movie.

I want more mountain drama and guessing who the killer might be, not taking 90 minutes to get there.

[valeriewriter]

Citizen Kane. It should be updated to be about someone more relevant to today like Steve Jobs or Bill Gates.

[Fievel]

Citizen Kane. It should be updated to be about someone more relevant to today like Steve Jobs or Bill Gates.

I'm actually surprised it hasn't been remade under this model yet.

[BuckyO'harre]

Ted Turner or Rupert Murdoch would be more apropos.

[valeriewriter]

Ted Turner or Rupert Murdoch would be more apropos.

Maybe they can do them all and make it a trilogy.

[Cpt Kirks 2pay]

Well they ARE talking about doing a biography movie of Richard Branson with talks of Russel Crowe playing him, so why not these?

Though with Branson, it shows how someone built an Empire while still being a nice guy and people seemingly all liking him for good reason, which is a refreshing thought. While the others just seem to be right bastards. So it would be good to show all the sides of the same millionaire making people.

Go for it, I say.

[Fievel]

Ted Turner or Rupert Murdoch would be more apropos.

Maybe they can do them all and make it a trilogy.

Maybe they should do them all and make it softcore pornography.

Just sayin....

[Spandau Belly]

I think There Will Be Blood ended up being closer to Citizen Kane than any straight-up remake could be.

[max314]

Assassins.

The Wachowski Brothers' original script is pretty awesome, but Donner brought Brian Helgeland in to rape the screenplay and make a shoddy interpretation of what was initially a highly suspenseful narrative with clearly worked out themes and characters. What we ended up getting was a piece of generic, uninteresting schlock whose only saving grace was anything that wasn't removed from the Wachowskis' original work.

[TheButcher]

Cinematical Seven: Franchises J.J. Abrams Should Reboot

Serenity / Firefly.
Back to the Future.
Speed.
Wonder Woman.
True Lies.
Superman.
Star Wars.

[thefraze]

Let's reboot Star Wars.

Everyone hates George Lucas, the Prequels AND the special editions. Lucas has raped everyone's childhoods sufficiently to the point where it's so cool to hate Star Wars so, why not just remake all 6 movies?

I'd settle for 6 animated films in the style of the Clone Wars cartoon, just something to bring some continuity to the whole saga.

[SilentBobX]

Cinematical Seven: Franchises J.J. Abrams Should Reboot

Serenity / Firefly.
Back to the Future.
Speed.
Wonder Woman.
True Lies.
Superman.
Star Wars.

All worthy of a reboot indeed. I hate to nitpick but True Lies was one film and hardly a 'franchise'. Could JJ make it one? Perhaps.

Mahalo

[papalazeru]

Serenity / Firefly.


Not ever.


Back to the Future.


Why, isn't it perfect the way it is?


Speed.


Could do with a good reboot, so long as it's not a bunch of people stuck in a Lambourghini Bus.


Wonder Woman.


Wouldn't mind seeing what he does with this.


True Lies.


Too soon,


Superman.


After Trek, maybe he can do something with this.


Star Wars.


Please, just don't. The last 3 were a mess, don't let the next ones end up in similar commercial vehicle circumstances.

[thefraze]

Star Wars.

Please, just don't. The last 3 were a mess, don't let the next ones end up in similar commercial vehicle circumstances.

After George Lucas passes away, someone will have to step up and take over the Empire - and by that time, 10-20 years from now, I think it's totally plausible to reboot the whole saga. Again, as I mentioned above - everyone hates Lucas, The Prequels and the Special Editions anyway... what's so sacred about it?

[minstrel]

Back to the Future.

Why, isn't it perfect the way it is?

I agree completely! There is absolutely no reason to reboot Back to the Future. It's about as good and as tight as a trilogy can be. Just leave it alone!

[King Of Nowhere]

Chopping Mall needs to be mentioned once on each page until TheButcher links to a news article saying it's been green lit.

Other than that, Richard III.
A lot of Shakespeare's stuff was given a modern makeover in the late 90's & early 00's, i don't know why they never tried this one.

[Spandau Belly]

Alright, I have a bit of trouble putting my thoughts into words here but here it goes.

You know how Ridley Scott has been trying for decades to re-edit Blade Runner and doing interviews claiming that the movie was actually about a replicant who is designed to hunt other replicants but doesn't know that he himself is one? No matter how many edits, and remasterings, and public statements Ridley Scott makes, Blade Runner will never be that movie. It's just not about those things. They're not there in the movie.

But what if Scott did a movie that actually was that? The world would look the same and all, but it would be a different story. So not even a remake really. Just a shot at making the movie Scott has deluded himself into thinking he made but never did.

Eric Bana would good as the lead Blade Runner guy. They don't even have to call it Blade Runner, they could use the original title Dangerous Days or think up something else.

[papalazeru]

Alright, I have a bit of trouble putting my thoughts into words here but here it goes.

You know how Ridley Scott has been trying for decades to re-edit Blade Runner and doing interviews claiming that the movie was actually about a replicant who is designed to hunt other replicants but doesn't know that he himself is one? No matter how many edits, and remasterings, and public statements Ridley Scott makes, Blade Runner will never be that movie. It's just not about those things. They're not there in the movie.

But what if Scott did a movie that actually was that? The world would look the same and all, but it would be a different story. So not even a remake really. Just a shot at making the movie Scott has deluded himself into thinking but never did.

Eric Bana would good as the lead Blade Runner guy. They don't even have to call it Blade Runner, they could use the original title Dangerous Days or think up something else.

Hmmm..other stories in the Bladerunner universe? Sounds like a really good dark series to me.

[papalazeru]

I think a new version of Home Alone would be cool. More grittier, less slap stick

Michael Mann could do it. HAHAHAHAHAHA!

[thefraze]

With the idea of re-imagining films that aren't that old (Hulk, for example) Why not remake Alien 3... and better yet, have David Fincher do it again.

that whole film was riddled with problems and production issues, why not try to fix all the issues with it? Or at least make a special edition with a better looking CG alien.

[Peven]

hasn't Fincher done enough to fuck up the Alien franchise already? keep him away, please

[thefraze]

I wouldn't say it was entirely his fault... besides, "Alien: Resurrection" destroyed the Alien franchise.

[Spandau Belly]

I was watching Westworld the other day and I think this is one I wouldn't mind if they remade. It's got a great premise and some other good moments, but I didn't really feel the climax was very climactic. In fact, the horror of the big massacre was left relatively underexplored. I feel like there's a lot of room for improvement here.

And Chris Bale looks as good now as he did back when he starred in this under the name James Brolin, so he could even come back and reprise his role.

[Peven]

I wouldn't say it was entirely his fault... besides, "Alien: Resurrection" destroyed the Alien franchise.

how did it do any worse than Alien 3? seriously. i at least had fun with it and liked the cast a whole lot more, too

[Spandau Belly]

I wouldn't say it was entirely his fault... besides, "Alien: Resurrection" destroyed the Alien franchise.

how did it do any worse than Alien 3? seriously. i at least had fun with it and liked the cast a whole lot more, too

Maybe because even though Alien 3 is full of plot holes it is still a logical and compelling conclusion to the series and then Alien 4 just goes back hits 'undo' on death making it all kinda meaningless. Once you start doing stuff in a film like making death inconsequential it's hard to care about anything.

But I will give you that Alien 4 is a fun movie. It's a good time in that stupid P.M.S. Anderson kind of way, but as an Alien movie it's a total embarassment.

[Peven]

I wouldn't say it was entirely his fault... besides, "Alien: Resurrection" destroyed the Alien franchise.

how did it do any worse than Alien 3? seriously. i at least had fun with it and liked the cast a whole lot more, too

Maybe because even though Alien 3 is full of plot holes it is still a logical and compelling conclusion to the series and then Alien 4 just goes back hits 'undo' on death making it all kinda meaningless. Once you start doing stuff in a film like making death inconsequential it's hard to care about anything.

But I will give you that Alien 4 is a fun movie. It's a good time in that stupid P.M.S. Anderson kind of way, but as an Alien movie it's a total embarassment.

but that is pretty much what Alien 3 did first, by going back and killing off Hicks and Newt, infecting Ridley with an alien, making Bishop one of the bad guys, undoing all of what had been worked for and built in Aliens making the audience's journey through that story almost entirely moot. it was arrogance, and so compared to that i cut Alien 4 some slack for one concept they used to create a starting point for that story

[RogueScribner]

Yeah, I liked the 4th one more than the 3rd (holy shit, do Peven and I agree on something???!!!). Cloning was kinda topical back in 1997 and it wasn't cloning without consequences. It made sense that the greedy bastards who wanted an Alien for themselves would go to any lengths to get it. Plus, it brought the aliens to Earth! If they made a 5th movie, it totally could have fucked up Earth. But no, they went for some lame AvP bullshit so we missed out.

[thefraze]

I wouldn't say it was entirely his fault... besides, "Alien: Resurrection" destroyed the Alien franchise.

how did it do any worse than Alien 3? seriously. i at least had fun with it and liked the cast a whole lot more, too

Maybe because even though Alien 3 is full of plot holes it is still a logical and compelling conclusion to the series and then Alien 4 just goes back hits 'undo' on death making it all kinda meaningless. Once you start doing stuff in a film like making death inconsequential it's hard to care about anything.

But I will give you that Alien 4 is a fun movie. It's a good time in that stupid P.M.S. Anderson kind of way, but as an Alien movie it's a total embarassment.

but that is pretty much what Alien 3 did first, by going back and killing off Hicks and Newt, infecting Ridley with an alien, making Bishop one of the bad guys, undoing all of what had been worked for and built in Aliens making the audience's journey through that story almost entirely moot. it was arrogance, and so compared to that i cut Alien 4 some slack for one concept they used to create a starting point for that story

Cloning Ripley with an alien inside her is like getting a blood sample of me after I go to a burger joint and cloning me with a CHEESEBURGER INSIDE ME. It's completely illogical and dumb - the whole film is dumb. The newborn? Jesus.

[RogueScribner]

Wouldn't it be more analogous to say that cloning a pregnant woman wouldn't produce a pregnant clone? Or was Ripley eating the alien on her way down into the pit?

[thefraze]

It was a foreign object resting in her insides, at least with a human pregnancy I could believe some aspect of the biology taking place.

Besides, cheeseburgers are parasitic.

[Spandau Belly]

There is an Alien thread and this chat will probably get relocated there soon.

But I definately disagree with you guys about killing off well-liked characters like Newt and Hicks being the same as bringing a character back from the dead. I'm not going to get into the science holes in these movies, because.... well.... they're movies.

I'm also not sure exactly what you guys thought would happen with those characters still alive in part 3 and still make it have an alien. I guess it could be a movie about a family bonding through fighting an alien together, but that seems like the type of bullshit that would piss more people off than what they actually did do.

I liked Alien 3 as a conclusion to the series because it made sense. No matter where Ripley went and what she did the alien would destroy it so she destroys herself along with the alien. The end.

Anyway, I realize there's a lot of love for Michael Beihn out there. And I feel he's been in some good movies, but cutting his character from Alien sequels is not the same as cutting Ripley or the alien.

Maybe you guys were just happy with Aliens as the final Alien movie and should just watch those two?

[RogueScribner]

It was a foreign object resting in her insides, at least with a human pregnancy I could believe some aspect of the biology taking place.

Besides, cheeseburgers are parasitic.

Obviously there is a DNA mix at some stage of the alien incubation process or the dog/ox alien wouldn't have been presented in Alien^3. So that's more than just "eating a cheeseburger."

[thefraze]

There is an Alien thread and this chat will probably get relocated there soon.

But I definately disagree with you guys about killing off well-liked characters like Newt and Hicks being the same as bringing a character back from the dead. I'm not going to get into the science holes in these movies, because.... well.... they're movies.

I'm also not sure exactly what you guys thought would happen with those characters still alive in part 3 and still make it have an alien. I guess it could be a movie about a family bonding through fighting an alien together, but that seems like the type of bullshit that would piss more people off than what they actually did do.

I liked Alien 3 as a conclusion to the series because it made sense. No matter where Ripley went and what she did the alien would destroy it so she destroys herself along with the alien. The end.

Anyway, I realize there's a lot of love for Michael Beihn out there. And I feel he's been in some good movies, but cutting his character from Alien sequels is not the same as cutting Ripley or the alien.

Maybe you guys were just happy with Aliens as the final Alien movie and should just watch those two?

I find that Alien 3 is a fitting conclusion to the story as well - my issues are more with the legendary behind-the-scenes squabbles and disasters (and that weird CG alien) I wish David Fincher wouldn't completely divorce himself from it, it'd be nice if he revisited it and at least put out a special edition.

[Peven]

and the lighting in Alien 3 sucks too.....

[thefraze]

I'd like to see Tim Burton remake "Forbidden Planet"

[SilentBobX]

Undeniable genius in this property if done right. No question.

Mahalo

[thefraze]

They need to get the guys who wrote the dark knight or Frank Miller to remake this movie

I would love to see Tarantino do this.

[Ribbons]

For a while I've thought that a good movie to remake would be The Hitch's (The Cock's?) Shadow of a Doubt. It's actually pretty solid on its own and in general I'm not really big on the idea of remaking stuff that already works, but certain scenes in it kept making me think of an alternate version of the movie that isn't a thriller.

For anyone who's never seen it before, the plot is about an uncle and his niece, both named Charlie, who initially share a close, almost psychic bond: several shots of both characters at the beginning of the film mirror one another. But it turns out that guy Charlie isn't quite as nice as girl Charlie thinks: he murders an old woman and makes off with her money, then hides out at his sister's house while on the lam. Uncle Charlie tries to kill his niece a couple of times to prevent her from ratting him out, and eventually falls off a train and dies.

I really dig the idea of the uncle and niece having a close relationship despite that fact that he's a thug and a fuck-up and she's, well, pretty much the opposite. And there was this one scene in the original movie where she relays a dream she had where "You were getting on a train... you were going away... and I was happy." It was meant to be an insult, but I think it'd be an interesting twist if her dream actually came true, just not in the way she expected. As in, she came back around, ended up helping him escape, and was "happy" because she kept him out of harm's way. I don't know, I just feel like there's an interesting story there that could work in a different genre.

[TheBaxter]

i just felt like pointing out the irony of beginning a sentence with "For anyone who's never seen it before" and then following it with a big chunk of blacked-out spoilertext.
wait. IS that irony?

[Hermanator X]

Nope. Simply giving the reader a choice to make between spoiling and non spoiling themselves.
I spoiled myself (arf arf), and it does sound an interesting premise.

[Fried Gold]

For a while I've thought that a good movie to remake would be The Hitch's (The Cock's?) Shadow of a Doubt. It's actually pretty solid on its own and in general I'm not really big on the idea of remaking stuff that already works, but certain scenes in it kept making me think of an alternate version of the movie that isn't a thriller.

For anyone who's never seen it before, the plot is about an uncle and his niece, both named Charlie, who initially share a close, almost psychic bond: several shots of both characters at the beginning of the film mirror one another. But it turns out that guy Charlie isn't quite as nice as girl Charlie thinks: he murders an old woman and makes off with her money, then hides out at his sister's house while on the lam. Uncle Charlie tries to kill his niece a couple of times to prevent her from ratting him out, and eventually falls off a train and dies.

I really dig the idea of the uncle and niece having a close relationship despite that fact that he's a thug and a fuck-up and she's, well, pretty much the opposite. And there was this one scene in the original movie where she relays a dream she had where "You were getting on a train... you were going away... and I was happy." It was meant to be an insult, but I think it'd be an interesting twist if her dream actually came true, just not in the way she expected. As in, she came back around, ended up helping him escape, and was "happy" because she kept him out of harm's way. I don't know, I just feel like there's an interesting story there that could work in a different genre.

What's interesting is that you sorta expect the uncle to not really be a murderer, that the detective is wrong and it's just Charlie's suspicion that will unsettle things. Then he goes a bit psycho.

I think if they remade it now, it'd be as more of an Ashley Judd type thriller vehicle where she's the only one who suspects Charlie is a killer and nobody else believes her....until it's too late.....with dangerous consequences....etc etc.

[Ribbons]

What's interesting is that you sorta expect the uncle to not really be a murderer, that the detective is wrong and it's just Charlie's suspicion that will unsettle things. Then he goes a bit psycho.

Yeah, that's part of it, I think. I liked the beginning better, when the question of whether he actually committed the crime was more ambiguous. By the end of the movie it wasn't so much "Shadow of a Doubt" as "I'mma Kill This Bitch"

[magicmonkey]

What's interesting is that you sorta expect the uncle to not really be a murderer, that the detective is wrong and it's just Charlie's suspicion that will unsettle things. Then he goes a bit psycho.

Yeah, that's part of it, I think. I liked the beginning better, when the question of whether he actually committed the crime was more ambiguous. By the end of the movie it wasn't so much "Shadow of a Doubt" as "I'mma Kill This Bitch"

It certainly falls into my least favourites of Hitch's, it starts promisingly enough, but really didn't seem to play with the ambiguity as I hoped it might. At least as far as I remember. The missus really enjoyed it tho.

[Peven]

The Neverending Story-the original has some hokey charm and heart but the visuals are sorely lacking, maybe Tim Burton could find a little renewal for himself while remaking it....or someone like Del Toro

Three Days of the Condor- the original is a great, underappreciated flick, but i think the times are ripe for an updated remake with a guy like Pitt or Damon in the lead role

[Bloo]

I really love SHADOW OF A DOUBT and would never have thought about it being a potential remake, just because of the "Ashley Judd" factor (who replaces McDonald Carey as the detective Tommy Lee Jones or Morgan Freeman ?) but I like that idea.

One movie that I thought would be great for a remake by Rob Zombie specifically is this weird underground cult movie with David Carradine (in drag nonetheless), Brad Dourif, and Conrad Janis (the dad from Mork and Mindy) called SONNY BOY

Basically it's a redneck Hunchback of Notre Dame

[The Vicar]

Basically it's a redneck Hunchback of Notre Dame

What else do you need to know? Sold.