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Postby Eric G on Thu Oct 27, 2005 7:01 pm

Source: http://www.fi-sci.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=432&Itemid=44

My first thought was; Why? There isn't that much wrong with the original to justify a remake - the movie still holds up to this day. So you have to ask yourself.... Why?
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Postby Lord Voldemoo on Thu Oct 27, 2005 7:11 pm

yeah, this just seems weird. I know Predator was a while ago, but it wasn't THAT long ago.

What's next, a Die Hard remake?
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Postby Adam Balm on Thu Oct 27, 2005 7:21 pm

Well, they remade Manhunter in less time.
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Postby Eric G on Thu Oct 27, 2005 7:24 pm

How about approaching Michael Bay to remake Terminator. Do you think Lucas would write it?
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Postby Adam Balm on Thu Oct 27, 2005 7:27 pm

I'm surprised Stallone hasn't tried to remake Rocky. I think his ego wouldn't allow anyone else in the shorts.
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Postby Eric G on Thu Oct 27, 2005 7:32 pm

Adam Balm wrote:I'm surprised Stallone hasn't tried to remake Rocky. I think his ego wouldn't allow anyone else in the shorts.


he doesn't need to - I just wrote the below article, have a quick read:

Its Official: Tarver Vs Balboa!
Antonio Tarver to play Mason Dixon

Antonio Tarver has told ESPN that he has signed on to play Rocky’s opponent Mason Dixon in the next Rocky film simply titled, “Rocky Balboa”, beating rumoured contender Roy Jones Jr to the role.
"You're looking at Mason "The Line" Dixon. I'm the heavyweight champion of the world and unfortunately Rocky's got to come back to see me!” said Tarver. “I believe we're gonna start shooting around December 1st. We are filming this reality style. We'll be filming in Las Vegas the weekend of the Jermaine Taylor Hopkins fight...after they jump off the scale, we'll jump on, ha. Me and Sly have had a 10-year friendship. He's the director and he wrote the film. He told me he wrote it with me in mind, that's a big compliment."
Eh? I thought he wrote it with Jones Jr in mind? All the same….Well done to Tarver.
“Rocky Balboa” will star Sylvester Stallone, Burt Young, Tony Burton and Mr T.
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Postby DennisMM on Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:03 pm

I was about to say that "Predator" isn't good enough to bother remaking anyway, but that's completely irrelevant, ennit?
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Postby ZombieZoneSolutions on Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:08 pm

i eagerly anticipate Uwe Boll's remake of Jackson's KONG remake of a remake.
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Postby Eric G on Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:10 pm

DennisMM wrote:I was about to say that "Predator" isn't good enough to bother remaking anyway, but that's completely irrelevant, ennit?


Yes.
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Postby Eric G on Thu Oct 27, 2005 9:30 pm

For a Predator movie to be succesful, you really need to emphasize that hunter aspect. In AvsP we didn't see much of this, and the fights between the Predators and Aliens were so few and far between, what we got was pretty lame and uninspired considering the potential. The storyline wasn't strong enough to feature any really good action scenes, and maybe it is because the Predators were youngins, who knows.. but they really botched the entire concept IMO. If we ever got a sequel it would need larger numbers of Aliens and Predators fighting in more interesting locations. But on the subject of this remake- do you think we will see the jungle locale revisited? I'm interested to see what kind fo setting is chosen.
I was gonna say Ice....but AvP have done that. So failing that, I think the best location would be the jungle. It was cool seeing the predator in the city, but it seemed to.....fake? Unrealistic maybe. The jungle locale gives you a greater feeling for the hunt. Makes it feel more animalistic. (If that's the right word for it)
You can raise the tension more in a jungle because of the sheer isolation of it, and I think that, thats where a Predator would hunt his prey. In a remote spot, where the chances of being spotted and killed are far less greater than that of a populated city....
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Postby Brocktune on Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:06 pm

yeah, avp sucked. they should just leave both franchises the fuck alone. let em die, and move on to destroy something else.
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Postby Lord Voldemoo on Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:10 pm

Eric, I just noticed part of your signature reminds me of a "poem" i created a while back for the poetry thread:

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 4:20 pm

A Lord Voldemoo original:

Roses are Red
Violets are Blue
I like Cookies
And if you take my cookies I'll rip your nuts off with my bare hands and grind them into toothpaste

I'm using my "art" to work out a few personal issues.


Sorry, that was completely off topic.
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Postby ONeillSG1 on Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:37 pm

Lord Voldemoo wrote:Eric, I just noticed part of your signature reminds me of a "poem" i created a while back for the poetry thread:

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 4:20 pm

A Lord Voldemoo original:

Roses are Red
Violets are Blue
I like Cookies
And if you take my cookies I'll rip your nuts off with my bare hands and grind them into toothpaste

I'm using my "art" to work out a few personal issues.


Sorry, that was completely off topic.


Indeed it was. As was this.
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Postby Agent Alonzo on Fri Oct 28, 2005 1:25 am

Hold on a minute...

“Rocky Balboa” will star Sylvester Stallone, Burt Young, Tony Burton and Mr T.


The return to the big screen of Mr. T??? I am soooo there...
T's motivational video for kids "Be somebody or be somebody's fool' is quite frankly the greatest thing in the history of things.
Really.
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Postby TheButcher on Fri Oct 28, 2005 1:49 am

This is old news.
Predator Begins posted 2/8/05.

I like the idea of another Predator movie, but I doubt it will be this.

Without getting my own ass in trouble, here's a smallish bit of news. Twentieth Century Fox are in talks with Johnny McTiernan to do a new Predator film - not a sequel, not a remake, not a prequel; more of a restart. There's talk - based on a treatment that's floating around the traps - that it might fix on Dutch's (the guy from the first film, Arnie played) grown-up commando kid.

John Cena's (one of Vince McMahon's kids) name has been branded about for the lead - but it's early days. They apparently want to coax JMT away from The Thomas Crown Affair sequel, have offered him this hoping it'll do trick.

http://www.latinoreview.com/scoops/predatorscoop.html
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Postby Coldfire24 on Fri Oct 28, 2005 2:15 am

GET TO THE CHOOOPPPEER!
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Postby WinslowLeach on Fri Oct 28, 2005 9:14 am

Cmon, we dont need a remake of Predator. WTF are people thinking? I love Predator but they gotta put down the crackpipes.

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Postby ThisIsTheGirl on Fri Oct 28, 2005 9:41 am

The older I get, the more I'm starting to prefer Predator II. Glover? Busey? YEAH, BABY!
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Postby vicious_bastard on Fri Oct 28, 2005 9:46 am

Agent Alonzo wrote:Hold on a minute...

“Rocky Balboa” will star Sylvester Stallone, Burt Young, Tony Burton and Mr T.


The return to the big screen of Mr. T??? I am soooo there...
T's motivational video for kids "Be somebody or be somebody's fool' is quite frankly the greatest thing in the history of things.
Really.


I turned up a tape full of Mr T's morality-packed cartoon series last time I sorted out my (work) tape library - each episode is preceded by a motivational "stay in school, sucka" type message.

A couple of hilarious music videos as well - "Mr T's Commandment" is a lost classic.
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Postby so sorry on Fri Oct 28, 2005 9:53 am

DennisMM wrote:I was about to say that "Predator" isn't good enough to bother remaking anyway, but that's completely irrelevant, ennit?


WHAHWHAWHABWA???????????
Predator isn't good enough?????
C'mon Dennis, you're kidding right?
Predator is a truely AWESOME movie that gave you exactly what it was supposed to: minimum dialogue, maximum carnage, and Arnold kicking ass.

I guess you're more of a "My Left Foot" kinda guy...

(PS I used alot of ???? to come across as being REALLY suprised!)
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Postby ThisIsTheGirl on Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:16 am

vicious_bastard wrote:
Agent Alonzo wrote:Hold on a minute...

“Rocky Balboa” will star Sylvester Stallone, Burt Young, Tony Burton and Mr T.


The return to the big screen of Mr. T??? I am soooo there...
T's motivational video for kids "Be somebody or be somebody's fool' is quite frankly the greatest thing in the history of things.
Really.


I turned up a tape full of Mr T's morality-packed cartoon series last time I sorted out my (work) tape library - each episode is preceded by a motivational "stay in school, sucka" type message.

A couple of hilarious music videos as well - "Mr T's Commandment" is a lost classic.


Fucking BADASS!

Didn't he sometimes come on at the end to continue his moral message? I seem to remember a sequence at the end of one cartoon, where he was skipping in the gym, and he said something like "skipping ain't just for girls, fools!" - absolute genius.
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Postby so sorry on Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:23 am

Mr T was on a simpson's episode last night... it was the one where Krusty has his Batmitzva (no, i have no idea how to spell it) and Mr T recites a few passages from the Torah... funny shit!
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Postby Agent Alonzo on Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:53 am

First I used to have that video with the cartoons and the real life T introducing, and in at least one of the segments he is wearing sweat pants and nothing underneath, and it is swinging freely about hypnotizing the youth of america as he tells them to drink school and stay in milk.
Second, I am not kidding about the Be somebody or be somebody's fool. It is quite frankly the funniest thing ever, and I know funny.
Learn about T's slave ancestory and the meaning of his haircut, learn how a muscular black man can not play the cello, learn how to not give in to peer pressure, and not drink unopened beers someone has left in a trashcan, cry as T proves he can not rap with 'Mother' 'Mother there is no other, mother, the only one'.
Learn lifes lessons, like if a bald studly middle aged man laughs at you when you trip, pretend to breakdance, and then he will think you are cool. Or that even though T is a doctor, he still forgets to wear pants... And the fashion show... THe fashion show... I can't even begin to put it into words...
They used to have it on overstock for a dollar... I think it is gone now...

Still don't believe me, how about a sample of the MOTHER lyrics...

M is for the moan, and the miserable groan
from the pain that She felt when I was born

O is for the oven with it's burnin' heat
where She stood makin' sure I had something to eat

T is for the time that She stayed up at night
and took my temperature when I wasn't feelin' right

H is for the hard earned money She spent
to keep clothes on my back and try to pay da' rent

E is every wrinkle I put on Her face
and every worry that I caused when I stayed out late

The last letter R is that She taught me Respect
and for the room up in Heaven that I know She'll get

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Postby ThisIsTheGirl on Fri Oct 28, 2005 11:36 am

B.A. Baracus wrote:M is for the moan, and the miserable groan
from the pain that She felt when I was born

O is for the oven with it's burnin' heat
where She stood makin' sure I had something to eat

T is for the time that She stayed up at night
and took my temperature when I wasn't feelin' right

H is for the hard earned money She spent
to keep clothes on my back and try to pay da' rent

E is every wrinkle I put on Her face
and every worry that I caused when I stayed out late

The last letter R is that She taught me Respect
and for the room up in Heaven that I know She'll get


*sniff* That's beautiful man. I'm looking for this video on eBay. I must have it AT ONCE!!!
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Postby so sorry on Fri Oct 28, 2005 11:36 am

he made up that "H" one... she never paid da' rent, welfare did!
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Postby ThisIsTheGirl on Fri Oct 28, 2005 11:42 am

He did say "<i>try</i> to pay the rent" - her failure to do so is implicit, I think!
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Postby WinslowLeach on Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:00 pm

"Hey Kids! Remember to always Drink your School and Stay in Milk!"

This Is: I like Predator 2 myself, its not a bad sequel at all.
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Postby so sorry on Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:07 pm

he also wrote a poem for his f@ther:


D is for the Dad I always wished I had

E is for Every stitch it took to sew up mom's face after you kicked her in the head before I was born

A is for the Alcohol you got moms drunk on when you knocked her up

D is for the Drugs I sold to try and help mom pay da rent

B is for the Beatin' I'm gonna give you sucka if I ever get my hands on you

E is for Enforcement agent who put me in jail when I smashed up your car

A is for the Ass whooping my mom's boyfriend used to give me when she wasn't around

T is for the mental Trauma you caused me all these damn years!
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Postby TheButcher on Sat Oct 29, 2005 6:42 am

Lord Voldemoo wrote:Eric, I just noticed part of your signature reminds me of a "poem" i created a while back for the poetry thread:

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 4:20 pm

A Lord Voldemoo original:

Roses are Red
Violets are Blue
I like Cookies
And if you take my cookies I'll rip your nuts off with my bare hands and grind them into toothpaste

I'm using my "art" to work out a few personal issues.


Sorry, that was completely off topic.


That was kind of weird.
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Postby DennisMM on Sat Oct 29, 2005 3:19 pm

so sorry wrote:
DennisMM wrote:I was about to say that "Predator" isn't good enough to bother remaking anyway, but that's completely irrelevant, ennit?


WHAHWHAWHABWA???????????
Predator isn't good enough?????
C'mon Dennis, you're kidding right?
Predator is a truely AWESOME movie that gave you exactly what it was supposed to: minimum dialogue, maximum carnage, and Arnold kicking ass.

I guess you're more of a "My Left Foot" kinda guy...

(PS I used alot of ???? to come across as being REALLY suprised!)


Point by point:

Minimum dialogue? Dialogue doesn't have to get in the way of the movie.

Maximum carnage? Plenty of good action movies have far less.

Arnold kicking ass? He can't act, so he's unable to do anything else. That's not a positive; it's a negative.

My Left Foot Guy? Yep. It's about five times better than Predator, which is why, even though geeks dominate the IMdB ratings, Foot comes in marginally higher.

But Die Hard, Lethal Weapon and The Road Warrior are all action-packed, and they're three of my favorite movies. They manage to include substantial dialogue and reasonable characteriation within the limits of the genre. All Predator had was big guns, big muscles and the makeup/costume design on the Predator. Oh, and two future governors of really ignorant states..
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Postby WinslowLeach on Sat Oct 29, 2005 3:25 pm

Predator is one of the very best sci fi-action films of the 80s. Its like Aliens (another movie that rules) in a jungle. Its a classic and one of Arnies best.
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Postby Brocktune on Sat Oct 29, 2005 3:42 pm

Agent Alonzo wrote:T's motivational video for kids "Be somebody or be somebody's fool' is quite frankly the greatest thing in the history of things.
Really.


you speak the truth. i was lucky enough to find a copy of this at a local video store about 10 years ago. it is like a video time capsule. T raps, breakdances, is racist towards white kids, and teaches lessons on morality. all to one of the worst soundtracks 1984 had to offer. this little gem is priceless!. ive been trying to get my band to cover "Be Somebody" forever. but its just not happening. i do however have designs on playing it at our shows while we set up.
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Postby DennisMM on Sat Oct 29, 2005 3:44 pm

I try not to limit myself to genre, and when I watch genre I look for different things, I guess. 'nuf said.
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Postby Gheorghe Zamfir on Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:41 am

Agent Alonzo wrote:cry as T proves he can not rap with 'Mother' 'Mother there is no other, mother, the only one'.


http://www.filecabi.net/v/file/mrtmother/wmv
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Postby Agent Alonzo on Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:08 am

Watch that clip and weep bitches... That isn't even the best part, probably not even top 10 most weirdass things in that video...

Oh, and guess who wrote those lyrics...



And I am not talking about the blonde...

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Postby TheButcher on Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:49 pm

From AvP Galaxy: AvP Franchise Dead, Long Live Predator?

It's been a long time since we've heard anything about a potential Predator 3 movie. Producer John Davis did an interview with Collider (news is also on Bloody-Disgusting) and he mentions what the future may hold:

You were also involved with AVP and AVPR, which are two great franchises, but they haven’t been able to work as a joint franchise. When are we going to see them go separate? Or are we going to see a third AVP?

John Davis:

Well, the Governor has mentioned to me that when he ceases to be Governor, if he doesn’t run for the Senate and all of that stuff, he’d like to do a movie or two again. And I don’t know, maybe we could restart the Predator franchise.

So if Arnold wanted to do it, it’s going to get made?

John Davis:

Well we’d have to come up with a really good script and a really great angle on it, but Predator was the first movie I was ever involved with, so it’s always going to have a really soft spot in my heart.

So is the AVP franchise on hold for now?

John Davis:

I think we’ve logically done what we could’ve done with the two AVP movies. But I think there’s something to go back to with Predator.


So there you have it. I never thought Arnie would return to acting though, especially in a new Predator movie. However, it's definitely a positive that they're ditching the AvP franchise.


From Collider:
Anyway, while talking to him today, he gave us updates on whether or not they’ll be another “Aliens vs. Predator” movie, what’s up with “Jason and the Argonauts,” and his take on a “Sims” movie – which is based on the very popular video game.

The quick info is that “AVP” is dead, but we might get another “Predator” movie after Arnold leaves office.
“Jason and the Argonauts” might have a HUGE director attached.
And “The Sims” movie has a touch of “Weird Science.”


From IESB: Fox Chairman Tom Rothman Goes On the Record Part 3
IESB: Just a couple days ago, John Davis, brought up a couple of things, you've probably read about, that he's talked to Arnold [Schwarzenegger] and that he would like to do a stand alone Predator movie.

TR: Who? Arnold would or John?

IESB: Both John and Arnold.

TR: Just give us a call just as soon as his political days are over. Hey, it's all news to me but we would certainly be open to it.

IESB: How about a reboot? No?

TR: You mean with or without Arnold?

IESB: Without Arnold.

TR: That's an idea, I'm gonna make a note of that.

IESB: Davis said that Arnold mentioned to him that as soon as he's done with his Governorship and if he doesn't go onto any other government position, that he'd like to do 1 or 2 movies.

TR: You'll forgive me if I'm a little skeptical about John and that but...just give the Governor my number. Tell him as soon as he gets the state budget signed to call me.
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Re: John McTiernan Offered to Remake "Predator"

Postby Worst Part's Almost Over on Thu Oct 16, 2008 7:40 pm

Collider wrote:The quick info is that “AVP” is dead


:mrgreen: HURRAY!! :mrgreen:
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Postby Hermanator X on Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:44 pm

Robert Rodriguez to make PREDATORS?

Hmmmmmmmm.... Will a predator queen be introduced?
...and so forth.
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Postby havocSchultz on Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:50 pm

Wasn't RR attached to a Predator sequel years ago...?

I remember hearing about that long before any of the AvP stuff started up...
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Postby Hermanator X on Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:58 pm

Ah ok, thats the first i heard of it.

But godsdammit, your RIGHT

From 2004:

Oh, "Predators", yes we're the "Predator 3", it's call "Predators". It was back when I was doing "Desperado". I wrote "Desperado", it was going to get made like end of September, and then "Last Action Hero" bombed, so they said we're not making any movies for a year, like next year. So I was like what am I going to do until then? So I took a writing assignment, and one of the writing assignments that was out was "Predator" sequel.

�So I said, yes I'll write a version of that. And it was just -- it was just crazy, it was huge, it was a big, big, big budget. Because I didn't have to direct it, I just had to write it. So I didn't really think about the budget, I was just like wrote this, wrote that. And it was really a cool script, it's floating around somewhere. But it's huge, and will never be made, the studio edited it and said there's no way we can make this, this would cost -- even at that time -- 150 million, and no women would ever go see this movie
...and so forth.
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Postby TheButcher on Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:38 pm

A reliable source dropped us a line revealing to us that Robert Rodriquez and his Troublemaker Studios will be producing the Predator reboot for 20th Century Fox.

Robert Rodriquez is producing about 20 movies. I wonder if any of them will actually get made.
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Postby Chris a.k.a StuntMike on Fri Jan 30, 2009 12:04 pm

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A reliable source dropped us a line revealing to us that Robert Rodriquez and his Troublemaker Studios will be producing the Predator reboot for 20th Century Fox.

Robert Rodriquez is producing about 20 movies. I wonder if any of them will actually get made.


Please don't. The original could come out next week and it would still be perfect.
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Postby Fried Gold on Fri Jan 30, 2009 1:39 pm

I think there are so many potentially good stories to be made based around the Predator, that there is no need for a remake or a "reboot".

Just tell a new story and have a large man in an predator suit running around setting off explosions...maybe set it during the Vietnam War.
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Postby Chris a.k.a StuntMike on Fri Jan 30, 2009 1:51 pm

I am interested to see what Aronofsky comes up with for Robocop though.
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Postby TheButcher on Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:04 am

From AvPGalaxy: Predator 3 Rumours


Release Date

Like Alien 5, Predator 3 is still in the "rumoured" phase. I think it probably has a lesser chance of being made than Alien 5. There's still lots that can be done with the Predator series but I don't think it would be hugely successful at the box office whereas Alien 5 would be. The Alien series is more well-known and it has the likes of Ridley Scott and James Cameron attached to Alien 5. Predator 3 doesn't have any strong people connected to it.

The Director

The director for Predator 3 is anybody's guess. The director of the first Predator movie, John McTiernan, was rumoured in 2005 to be in talks with Fox. This seems a little odd however since John McTiernan has never made any comments about the Predator series at all.

Cast

Before Arnold Schwarzenegger became governor of California, he was the most popular choice to return to the Predator series to play Dutch. The next person in the spotlight was WWF wrestler The Rock who would have took over the Dutch role. In September 2003, The Rock denied that he has any involvement in a Predator 3 movie although in December 2003, he said he was "unsure" about his involvement in the film. In 2005, another wrestler, John Cena, was also rumoured to be involved in a remake of Predator.

Storyline

There's all sorts of ideas for Predator 3 floating around in recent years. It's unknown if it's going to be a sequel, a prequel, a remake or even a restart but all four things have been rumoured in the past. According to a couple of websites, there are about three scripts for Predator 3 circulating around the globe.

The first, written by Sam Park, is called Predator 3: The Deadlier of the Species and features Arnold Schwarzenegger's character, Dutch, in New York during a blizzard. A Predator comes to New York and tracks down Dutch to try and kill him.

The second script, written by Robert Rodriguez, is called Predators and is set on a 17th century ship where a Predator stalks the crewman who have to fight with inferior weaponry. The writer did speak about his script during an interview at the beginning of 2004 and said it was rejected because the budget would have been too big - about $150m.

The third and final script is called The Zoo which brings back both Dutch from Predator and Harrigan from Predator 2 and they are captured and brought back to the Predator homeworld because they were the only two people to have ever killed a Predator.



From The Arnold Fan: PREDATOR 3: A GUARENTEED BLOCKBUSTER!
Dutch smokes the "Uglies" in space!
Reported By: René de Jong
Thursday, February 28, 2002

Ask just about any Arnold fan to name their top three favorite Arnold movies and chances are Predator is one of them. Who wouldn't want to see Arnold return as the stogie-chomping DUTCH as he faces off with a dozen 7-foot tall Predators in space? Arnold, if True Lies 2 doesn't work out, listen up!

Predator 3 is a movie everyone would see - a huge event picture that would guarantee blockbuster bucks. Predator 3 screenwriter, Matthew J. Virchow, writes The ARNOLD FAN to tell us the latest!

Virchow:

Hey guys at The ARNOLD FAN, This is Matthew J. Virchow, current screenwriter for PREDATOR 3. I just thought I'd update you on what's going on since I see you've already got my buddy's information up on your site on what's happening. Here's what's going on right now with the new PREDATOR:

FOX Studios isn't interested in a new PREDATOR film right now, considering PREDATOR 2 was a flop, and they've already turned down ALIENS VS. PREDATOR, a script from Peter Briggs. Right now, I have restarted the script. I want an entirely new story that every audience will love. There wasn't a whole lot of action scenes for my original script, and it didn't have the feel of a PREDATOR movie.

I just started re-writing only a few days ago. Right now, I've been trying to get in contact with the Thomas Brothers who wrote the first two films. I haven't had any luck yet. My plan is to come up with a much deeper, more suspenseful, and much more action-packed thriller story to PREDATOR III to show the audience the Predator as they've never seen him before. I still want Dutch Schaefer to return, because Arnold Schwarzenegger is the key element to making this story work. My plan is to finish the script within six to eleven months, and try to get it to Arnold Schwarzenegger, himself.

QUICK NOTE: I also thought you should know that even though FOX wouldn't see John McTiernan fit to direct the third film, if Mr. Schwarzenegger likes the script and wants to make it, I think McTiernan's return would be inevitable. If FOX doesn't want him, we may end up buying the PREDATOR rights from FOX, and search for a new distributor - that is if this project ever gets on the move. Right now my hopes are getting the new script finished and polished, and getting a hold of Jim Thomas & John Thomas, and Arnold Schwarzenegger. But, like David mentioned a few days ago, if Arnold says no, I won't make the project.

FOX just doesn't want it from what I'm speculating right now. Any of you Arnold fans have ideas or plot details you might want to see in the new PREDATOR? Any type of info on what the audience wants to see would be helpful. Just email them through thearnoldfan and I'm sure they'd get it out to me.

That's the latest with PREDATOR 3. Thanks again Arnold Fans! Your wanting a new Predator film with Dutch back in action has drawn me to write it for you.

Sincerely,
Matthew J. Virchow


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René de Jong



From IGN July 10, 2003 -: Several Scripts for Predator 3 Making the Rounds

Paul Davidson wrote:With Aliens vs. Predator already in pre-production and James Cameron mulling over Alien 5, fans are curious to know what's happening with the other side of the equation, the Predator series.

According to Australia's Moviehole and Britain's The Z Review, there are currently three scripts for Predator 3 circulating in Hollywood.

One, entitled Predator 3: The Deadlier of the Species was written by writer Sam Park some years back. Park recently told Moviehole that interest in the script was being revived with the upcoming Aliens vs. Predator project. Deadlier of the Species brings Arnold Schwarzeneggar's character "Dutch" from the first Predator. Set in New York City during a blizzard, it involves a Predator who has come to find and kill the ex-commando.

Meanwhile, screenwriter Robert Rodriguez (Spy Kids, Once Upon a Time in Mexico) has his own script for Predator 3 making the rounds in the nation's movie capital. Rodriguez's script takes the franchise back in time to a 17th century ship. The Predator is stalking its prey among the crew, who must fight back using only their inferior weapons and bravery.

A third script that also seems to be in contention, according to The Z Review, is one called The Zoo. This one unites both Dutch and Danny Glover's policeman character from the Predator sequel as two living trophies who are captured and brought back to the Predator homeworld.

It seems unlikely that any of these screenplays will be picked up until Aliens vs. Predator comes out, and Hollywood is able to gauge interest in the property. We'll keep and eye on things for you!



From IESB.net 26 September 2006: AVP 2 Closer to Cameron's Aliens and Predator 3 Starring Sly Stallone?

Robert Sanchez wrote:Is there hope for AVP 2? According to one of our readers the storyline for the new film will resemble Cameron"s Aliens instead of the first AVP. He also tells us that there is talk for a new stand alone Predator film that will not feature The Rock or John Cena as previously rumored but instead possibly Sly Stallone.

This is way too much to digest this early in the morning, Sly Stallone back as an action hero? I know it sounds a bit crazy but Hollywood is full of craziness. Good example of unbelievable things that happen here in this town would be how Uwe Boll keeps getting money and is able to find great talent to make the biggest pieces of shit in cinematic history. If Hollywood used the “Three Strikes and Your Out” premise that U.S. courts use on criminals Uwe would be waiting for the “Electric Chair” right about now, hmm that’s an idea.

Our reader that goes by Ink Blot sent in this email with some details from AVP 2 plus some Predator 3 rumors. We can’t confirm any of this at the moment so for now take this for what it is… a rumor.

Hey Guys,

Saw your report about AVP2. I just finished - art - work on the film. It starts filming next week. Sally Hudson is our lead artist on the project, and she came up with some amazing things. Its going to be a much better - don't get me wrong, there were aspects of the first film that I liked - film than the first. The storyline heavily resembles more, say, Cameron's "Aliens" than the first AVP film. I think you'll be amazed at some of the new 'Alien' created for the film too. The lead male character has got 'Dutch' gold written all over him too. I think he'll be popular.

There's talk now - and again, its just talk, nothing concrete - that some of us might be re-hired soonish to start on the new 'Predator' film. I haven't had any contact from the studio about it. Others apparently have.

Originally, they were going to follow AVP up with a fifth "Alien" film, one that would team Sigourney and Ridley again, but it didn't work out (for reasons I'm not privy to). 'Predator 3' (won't be called that), would be a brand new chapter in the series - and all those rumors about it starring The Rock or John Cena as Schwarzenegger's character, Dutch, aren't true. One bit of a interesting talk is that Sylvester Stallone might be being coaxed to do battle with the new "Predator". Guess they're thinking someone who can equal Arnie's statue? Not that he'd be playing the same character. I'd say that the plan is solely on FOXs end, and not Sly's end - who seems to have enough 'franchises' on the go.

Anyway, keep you posted - just wanted to reassure you that AVP2 is looking good.

'Ink Blot'
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Postby TheButcher on Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:07 am

havocSchultz wrote:Wasn't RR attached to a Predator sequel years ago...?

I remember hearing about that long before any of the AvP stuff started up...

Hermanator X wrote:Ah ok, thats the first i heard of it.

But godsdammit, your RIGHT

From 2004:

Oh, "Predators", yes we're the "Predator 3", it's call "Predators". It was back when I was doing "Desperado". I wrote "Desperado", it was going to get made like end of September, and then "Last Action Hero" bombed, so they said we're not making any movies for a year, like next year. So I was like what am I going to do until then? So I took a writing assignment, and one of the writing assignments that was out was "Predator" sequel.

�So I said, yes I'll write a version of that. And it was just -- it was just crazy, it was huge, it was a big, big, big budget. Because I didn't have to direct it, I just had to write it. So I didn't really think about the budget, I was just like wrote this, wrote that. And it was really a cool script, it's floating around somewhere. But it's huge, and will never be made, the studio edited it and said there's no way we can make this, this would cost -- even at that time -- 150 million, and no women would ever go see this movie



From Screenwriters Utopia 05/24/01: Script Review: PREDATORS


Predators (negative, minor spoilers)
Written by Robert Rodriguez

I've heard that Robert Rodriguez wrote this partially for fun's sake. And while I'll admit that it's at times, "fun" to read. It meanders and goes nowhere fast. It doesn't hold with continuity established by the first Predator movie with Ah-nuld. The main problem is that there is no beginning and the ending is too obvious ahead of time.

Basically, a team of Marine commandos have captured Dutch (Ah-nuld from the first film...pay attention!) and are taking him back to a prison colony on another planet. (yeah, i know. Right away I was confused too but you have to suspend major belief) Anyway, when the commandos arrive on the planet they find a crucified Predator and the remains of the prison. The commandos are quickly overwhelmed and captured (a few are killed) and are taken back to the predator encampment where we see not only humans but other various creatures and monsters in cages. The other predators then have the random creatures fight each other.

The entire middle is devoted mainly to attempting to develop each Marine's character but after awhile, you lose interest. Anyways, during this gruesome sports combat, Dutch escapes as do a few other commandos who go after him. Dutch somehow knows why the one predator was crucified and releases him (he wasn't dead, just strung up). This predator was basically an outcast, a bad seed and proceeds to run roughshod over the encampment battling side by side with Dutch to kill all the other predators. Once that's done, we meet the predator king and hundreds of other predators arrive. It turns out that one of the commandos, JC, can actually communicate with the predators and this whole plan was to sacrifice Dutch to the predators because he had killed one way back on earth (the first movie, again). After a vicious battle between the two, and then between the predator king and Dutch, he manages to escape in a drop-ship along with the outcast predator. As they fly away, Dutch sees a monitor on the ship with coordinates to Earth. The realization dawns on him that Earth is the next target of the predators. Fade out.

The problem is an overlying "so what" to this whole script. First, I'd eliminate half of the commando team. Too many players to keep track of. Secondly, too many creatures that the predators have captured. When a story falls into "look at the cool CGI creatures and special effects we made" then the story suffers BIG time. This is the same reason why I really hope there is never an Aliens Vs. Predator movie. It, like this, would be just 2 hours of special effects. I'm not worried about PREDATORS being made in my lifetime. Which is a good thing. And that's the bottom line.
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Postby TheButcher on Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:08 am

Hermanator X wrote:Robert Rodriguez to make PREDATORS?

Hmmmmmmmm.... Will a predator queen be introduced?



Chris a.k.a StuntMike wrote:Please don't. The original could come out next week and it would still be perfect.


Meredith From io9 feels the same way.
From io9: Robert Rodriguez Spearheads Predator Reboot: But Can It Be Done?
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Re: John McTiernan Offered to Remake "Predator"

Postby Hermanator X on Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:28 am

Every single one of those plot ideas is awful.

If RR does end up doing it, I hope the hero is Danny Trejo, just because he looks a bit like one, and could infiltrate the Preds. Just give him dreadlocks and a fishnet body suit and your good to go.
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Re: John McTiernan Offered to Remake "Predator"

Postby havocSchultz on Tue Feb 03, 2009 5:26 am

Hermanator X wrote:Every single one of those plot ideas is awful.

If RR does end up doing it, I hope the hero is Danny Trejo, just because he looks a bit like one, and could infiltrate the Preds. Just give him dreadlocks and a fishnet body suit and your good to go.


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Re: John McTiernan Offered to Remake "Predator"

Postby Nachokoolaid on Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:04 pm

Ever since seeing the first film, I've always dreamt of seeing a Predator film set during the American Revolution. I don't know why.
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