
The Vicar wrote:Did anyone else find one of these in their lobby?
The Vicar wrote:Did anyone else find one of these in their lobby?
Ribbons wrote:Did you watch the scenes that Marvel cut from the final film, b_r? If so, how were they?
waytovietnam wrote:Ang Lee's Hulk still fresh in my head. I am still a fan of Ang Lee's Hulk. At first I thought this Incredible Hulk is indeed incredibly unnecessary, but after few rounds of trailer and TV-Spot. I think I could be a hit movie this summer, as long as the movie are fill with strong story line and great drama with decent acting.
RogueScribner wrote:Sorry you didn't enjoy it, minstrel. I thought it was much more fun than Lee's version, but it was still far from perfect.
minstrel wrote:...
Dammit. I wanted a Hulk movie that was dialed up to eleven. This one is dialed down to, oh, three or four. I was left with a profound sense of blah.
valeriewriter wrote:Hi everyone,
I've added a new movie review for Edward Norton's The Incredible Hulk. I'll admit that I wasn't a huge fan of the movie, but I did like all of the underlying messages Mr. Norton threw in about anger and helping the environment.
Hope you can check it out.
Thanks!
Valeriewriter
http://valeriewriter.wordpress.com
Bayou wrote:Not to be nitpickey, but you got a pic of Norton in American History X with the caption "Norton relaxes on the set of Hulk"
Normally this would be tongue in cheek at it's finest, what with the green shadowing and all, but the swastika is a bit much, nu?
Good review though.
John-Locke wrote:You are hilarious, nice writing, funny that there is some fool who's left you a comment on your page and doesn't get the joke.
The Dark Knight actually starts off kind of cute with a group of clowns riding in a car. But, these clowns aren’t circus clowns, at all. They are bank robbers who are going to rob a bank of its money. There is a big shootout and only one clown is left: The Joker. Upset and alone because his friends are dead, The Joker leaves the scene of the crime in a bus.
Bloo wrote:I knew that Reed Richards wouldn't be in this, but that is who I first thought of with the code name "Mr Blue" and in NYC
Bruce Jones followed as the series' writer, and his run features Banner using yoga to take control of the Hulk while he is pursued by a secret conspiracy and aided by the mysterious Mr. Blue. Jones appended his 43-issue Incredible Hulk run with the limited series Hulk/Thing: Hard Knocks #1-4 (Nov. 2004 - Feb. 2005), which Marvel published after putting the ongoing series on hiatus.
Ribbons wrote:Bloo wrote:I knew that Reed Richards wouldn't be in this, but that is who I first thought of with the code name "Mr Blue" and in NYC
Somebody else who I saw the movie with said that "Mr. Blue" was actually a nod to Hulk canon; I can't remember if it was Doc Samson that they said used the moniker or not, but it was somebody who was communicating with him while he was on the lam.
EDIT: From Wikipedia:Bruce Jones followed as the series' writer, and his run features Banner using yoga to take control of the Hulk while he is pursued by a secret conspiracy and aided by the mysterious Mr. Blue. Jones appended his 43-issue Incredible Hulk run with the limited series Hulk/Thing: Hard Knocks #1-4 (Nov. 2004 - Feb. 2005), which Marvel published after putting the ongoing series on hiatus.
Anne Thompson wrote:The real question when looking at The Incredible Hulk--given all the sturm-and-drang in the media about Edward Norton--is what did he contribute to this movie?
Here's the real deal:
Zak Penn wrote the original script, which includes two pivotal scenes from his 16-year-old first screenplay for the Hulk, which was not used on the Ang Lee movie written by James Schamus. Marvel came back to Penn and wanted the two scenes in the movie: Bruce Banner jumping out of a helicopter to the earth below, not knowing whether or not he would morph into Hulk, and a lovemaking scene in a motel where Banner's rising heart rate becomes an issue. Both are among the best scenes in the final movie.
When Marvel approached Norton to do The Incredible Hulk, he initially declined. They asked him to meet with director Louis Leterrier (Transporter) to discuss his objections to doing the movie; there Norton offered some ideas as to where he'd want it to go. Marvel agreed to hire a screenwriter to work with him. This is totally normal. At this point Penn was off the movie.
Marvel realized they didn't have time to hire a new writer and asked Norton to do it, offering him an uncredited producer credit as well. With about two months to go before the movie started filming, Norton did a page one rewrite--knowing that he couldn't do anything radical, because sets were being built, locations found, etc. The entire Brazil sequence was already story-boarded.
So Norton mostly changed dialogue, filled in gaps of motivation and developed character. For example, the scenes in Brazil about finding a serum in the Amazon to cure him, and Banner's emails with Tim Blake Nelson, were Norton adds. Marvel agreed to shoot Norton's script.
The Incredible Hulk filming was well under way in Toronto when the team flew to San Diego to do a Comic-Con panel last July. When the panel moderator asked Norton to address his enhanced role on the film--which was supposed to be revealed on the panel, but not by him--both Norton and producer Gale Ann Hurd recognized that his announcing his own role as screenwriter would play badly. And so it did.
In post-production, when it came time to edit the movie, Marvel wanted a streamlined cut. Norton wanted more of his stuff, some 20 minutes worth. Norton is a serious actor who wants to be cool. Marvel convinced him to star in a movie on which he would have considerable input as writer-co-producer-star. A collision was inevitable. Their heated debate was leaked to Deadline Hollywood. Marvel had final cut, not Norton. He did not get his way. Some 50 minutes of outtakes will turn up on the DVD.
Post-Ang Lee, Marvel wanted the most commercial version of the movie, while Norton wanted something more nuanced.
As for the script, Marvel submitted both Penn and Norton (under his pseudonym, Edward Harrison) to the Writers' Guild; Penn (who had substantial economic incentives to want to win the arbitration) wrote an impassioned argument that Norton had not considerably changed his screenplay. The Guild tends to favor plot, structure and pre-exisiting characters over dialogue. Given the final version of the movie, they gave the sole credit to Penn. (Another early writer was seeking story by credit and didn't get anywhere.)
Interestingly, the reviews have been mixed, 61 on metacritic; some have criticized the movie for being light on character. Here's Todd McCarthy's review and a funny one in The Guardian.
When it came to marketing the pic, Universal's Adam Fogleson talked with Norton about his schedule and what PR they wanted him to do. The studio wanted to sell the Hulk, not Norton, finally--they avoided the traditional print junket in favor of a more superficial Adam Sandler TV-friendly media sell (not opening up to lots of questions about what Norton wanted the movie to be). Norton did Access Hollywood, Jimmy Kimmel (see below), lots of Internet stuff and attended the L.A. premiere. Then, as planned, he went off to Africa for his own purposes--and will do Japan PAs later this month.
This LAT Norton story addresses his image problems, which are substantial. He is seen as a gifted writer and actor, but opinionated and persnickety.
Finally, my sense is that Norton's issues were with Marvel, which misled him into believing that he would have more control over the picture than in fact he did. Norton didn't take his issues to the press. When told about Deadline Hollywood, he had never heard of the blog. He's fine with Universal. Here's EW, with Norton's statement. Whether Norton will play Hulk again remains to be seen.
It's probably time for Norton to take charge via directing. (He debuted with the 2000 relationship comedy Keeping the Faith and has been developing Jonathan Lethem's Motherless Brooklyn as a directing vehicle.) The smartest movie stars--Clint Eastwood, Warren Beatty, Mel Gibson, Robert Redford, George Clooney and others--have figured out how to take control of their careers. Instead of fighting with studios over final cut, they earn it.
Rachel Molino wrote:Fans may recall a tension in the air last year right before San Diego Comic Con, when it was revealed that Edward Norton—by no choice of his own, it seemed—would not be reprising his role as Bruce Banner" for "The Avengers" movie. In fact, there would be a new Hulk actor and yet another “Hulk” film—the third in less than 10 years.
The discomfort was palpable and its source multi-dimensional. Critical reception of Norton’s take on The Hulk was positive, but no sooner did rumors rise of the actor’s participation in future Hulk endeavors (including “The Avengers”), than Marvel Studios’ chief Kevin Feige released a statement saying they had made the decision not to bring Norton back.
It’s been almost a year since the actor’s agent and Norton himself released outraged, and more measured, fan-reverent reactions (respectively) regarding the surprising turn. And as it turns out, Norton now has more to say about the whole ordeal.
"I found it a cheap and unnecessary representation that it was about things other than money," Norton told The Independent. "They came to me avidly to talk about it and then, at the end of the day, it was just flat out a business decision."
Norton goes on to call Marvel’s approach to releasing their statement, “low, unprofessional and dishonest.”
"I would say that blew back on them much worse than it blew back on me," the actor notes of the perceived response to the back-and-forth between himself and Marvel. "I couldn't have been happier with the experience that I had making the film, but nor do I feel any kind of intensity about doing it again. A really good friend of mine's going to do it now [Mark Ruffalo] and he's awesome! Marvel's going to have to deal with their own karma. They've got bigger problems than me."
TheButcher wrote:This Unfilmed Scene From THE INCREDIBLE HULK Is A Real Nightmare
so sorry wrote:TheButcher wrote:This Unfilmed Scene From THE INCREDIBLE HULK Is A Real Nightmare
I'm sure Betty's REAL nightmare's involved intercourse with Bruce gone wrong.
Leckomaniac wrote:So...here is a juicy rumor about Hulk 2.
It looks as though they will announce the director at Comic-Con...but film ick says that the rumor is NEIL MARSHALL will be the director.
Hmm. Interesting choice. Wonder if it is true.
Ribbons wrote:Leckomaniac wrote:So...here is a juicy rumor about Hulk 2.
It looks as though they will announce the director at Comic-Con...but film ick says that the rumor is NEIL MARSHALL will be the director.
Hmm. Interesting choice. Wonder if it is true.
Honestly? Neil Marshall would be a GREAT choice for any of these Marvel/DC/Star Wars/Universal Monster/Whatever films. I've admired his work ever since The Descent, and he's come in and kicked all kinds of ass on Game of Thrones and Black Sails. A lot of these producers look for guys who've worked in television and have something extra, and I fully expect Neil Marshall to get his shot at one of these things sooner or later.
Brendon wrote:Neil Marshall On The Hulk?
Are the rumours true? Anybody out there know if Neil Marshall is really being courted to take on The Incredible Hulk after he shoots Outpost, or Doomsday, or whatever it ends up being called?
Blimey. That's only one step away from Jake West getting the gig.
But then, David Yates landed Harry Potter, and Anand Tucker had his hands on Dark Materials, for a while at least.
I guess we'll find out the truth at Comic-con.
EDIT: I'm now hearing that, actually, Timur Bekmambetov is the front-runner for the gig. He is the director of Nightwatch, Daywatch and the imminent third chapter About Half-Past Eight In The Evening Watch. Again, can anybody confirm or deny? Have both of these names been pitching for the film? Was one previously attached but latterly removed?
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