Big Trouble in Little China Discussion / Jack Burton Quotes

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Postby Retardo_Montalban on Wed Apr 18, 2007 8:38 am

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Bob Poopflingius Maximus wrote:
Lady Sheridan wrote:FilmIck Tart! Why, I never!!


Never FilmIck? Or never Tart?


I have no idea what I am talking about...


Somewhere in between, MonkeyWho. I do indeed scribble for FilmIck but I'll always be tart for you boys. ;)

Of course by tart, I mean that I'll behave like a man-eating bitch.

Retardo_Montalban wrote:worst monkey with a fedora and technicolor scarf ever. I'd at least expect an adjusting of your pinky ring when addressing a lippy lady.


Please tell me you twirled your mustache when you said that, monsieur.

Anyway...I totally need to rent Big Trouble in Little China when my damn thesis is done, because it's been years. Years and years. Maybe it'll come on cable again so I can geek out with you all. But damn, was Kurt Russell hot in the 80's.

I must defend my Zoner reputation now that KC has cast doubt upon it! ;)

Except the nude Gerry Butler pictures thing, that's totally true.


Why rent? The DVD is only $9.00
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Postby Lady Sheridan on Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:10 am

Retardo_Montalban wrote:
Why rent? The DVD is only $9.00


You're right, actually, that's a bargain for some Kurt Russell mullet goodness.

I'm going grab a copy the next time I see it. I think I even have some credit at *shudder* Best Buy...
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Postby Lyle Gorch on Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:45 am

I love this movie...with a passion.

I was 19 when it was released and couldn't wait for the next Carpenter/Russell pairing.
The night it opened I has met my Dad for dinner in Kansas City, and talked him into seeing it with me.
I went on and on about what I loved about it afterwards...my Dad hated it. :lol:

In a way, it's kind of Carpenter's "Grindhouse"...in the sense that it throws multiple genre sources together...creating an entertaining hodgepodge of fantasy, sci-fi, kung fu, horror, comedy and western elements.

For me...its the tone of the film that holds it all together.
Carpenter's tongue is planted firmly in cheek...and his game cast follows suit.

Kurt looks like he's having an absolute blast throughout...how could he not?
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Postby Fawst on Wed Apr 18, 2007 1:52 pm

Color me pissed. I bought a copy of the 2-disc DVD used from Blockbuster. 8 bucks. And what was it missing? The second fucking disc. I went back to complain and they actually said, and I quote, "Oh, we take those bonus discs out when the movies come in. No one wants the extras when they rent a movie, so we just keep them for ourselves. We actually get a lot of complaints about this, maybe we should put up a sign."

I will NEVER step foot into a Blockbuster again. I don't even rent there anymore thanks to NetFlix. I only went in to buy a used movie. Never again.
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Postby Chairman Kaga on Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:06 pm

Blockbuster should be sent off to the hell where people are skinned alive!
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Postby King Psyz on Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:21 pm

send them to the hell of boiling oil!
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Postby Chairman Kaga on Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:50 pm

Oh yeah while on the subject of BTiLC..... Is Gracie supposd to be Chinese? or part Chinese?
1. Her last name is Law which may or may not be an anglocized version of an original Chinese surname.
2. Lo-Pan is required to find a girl with green eyes but sometimes they refer to how rare a Chinese girl with green eyes is......as a curse the latter makes more sense. I mean what would be so hard about finding a nice European girl with green eyes?

These things make me think Gracie is supposed to be Chinese or part Chinese ala David Carradine as Caine in Kung-Fu.
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Postby This is a biscuit on Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:13 pm

Chairman Kaga wrote:Oh yeah while on the subject of BTiLC..... Is Gracie supposd to be Chinese? or part Chinese?
1. Her last name is Law which may or may not be an anglocized version of an original Chinese surname.
2. Lo-Pan is required to find a girl with green eyes but sometimes they refer to how rare a Chinese girl with green eyes is......as a curse the latter makes more sense. I mean what would be so hard about finding a nice European girl with green eyes?

These things make me think Gracie is supposed to be Chinese or part Chinese ala David Carradine as Caine in Kung-Fu.


So Gracie is destined to walk the Earth(Earf) then, much like Jack himself. Deep man, deep...
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Postby The Vicar on Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:17 pm

Chairman Kaga wrote:Blockbuster should be sent off to the hell where people are skinned alive!


Send them to the Hell of the Oily Dragon!

Seriously, what a bunch of butt munches...
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Postby This is a biscuit on Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:31 pm

The Vicar wrote:
Chairman Kaga wrote:Blockbuster should be sent off to the hell where people are skinned alive!


Send them to the Hell of the Oily Dragon!

Seriously, what a bunch of butt munches...
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I thought that was the Doily Dragon, feared for tasteful end-table accents...FROM HELL!
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Postby The Vicar on Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:17 pm

This is a biscuit wrote:
The Vicar wrote:
Chairman Kaga wrote:Blockbuster should be sent off to the hell where people are skinned alive!


Send them to the Hell of the Oily Dragon!

Seriously, what a bunch of butt munches...
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I thought that was the Doily Dragon, feared for tasteful end-table accents...FROM HELL!


Even worse...damn.
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Postby Fawst on Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:25 pm

I believe that it was just supposed to be the "girl" with green eyes, not the "Chinese Girl" with green eyes. He even said, there had been others before. I think the point was that he had to sacrifice a girl with green eyes (of exceptional spiritual quality, apparently) to appease Shing-Dai (sp?). He lucked out and found two, thus was able to sacrifice Gracie and Marry Mao-Ying.
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Postby Chairman Kaga on Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:41 pm

If so then that doesn't seem like much of a curse. See the other way it depends on the extreme rarity of Chinese girls with green eyes to come along then on top of that they also have to tame the burning blade. That seems more like something that would keep Lo Pan as a ghost/dream for thousands of years...atleast to me it does.
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Postby Fawst on Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:51 pm

Well, I'm pretty sure that 99.999999999% of the girls with green eyes couldn't tame the Golden Blade, thus the "there were others," comment. I'm just saying that I think Lo-Pan found a loophole: girl with green eyes, not specifically Chinese, tamed the Golden Blade and was going to be sacrificed to appease his god.

That, or you found one of the only real problems with this otherwise perfect film. You bastard. :)
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Postby King Psyz on Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:00 pm

Well I think they always assumed it would have to be chinese and just happened that they were wrong.

Either way hell, this is Big Trouble in Little China we're talking about. We can't be looking for holes in the plot or we'll never forgive ourselves for loving this movie so.
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Postby This is a biscuit on Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:45 pm

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Postby The Vicar on Fri Apr 20, 2007 8:51 am

So, did anyone else notice Jack Burton's oriental print sleeveless tee shirt hanging on the wall of the eatery in Grindhouse?
If someone else has already mentioned it and I missed that post, then color me stupid.
I thought it was a nifty little shout out....
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Postby MonkeyM666 on Fri Apr 20, 2007 9:06 am

Ok, I watched Big trouble in Little China a couple of nights ago for the first time, and even though I enjoyed it I really don’t agree that it’s the ‘e=mc2’ of films, or anything close. I liked bits and hated bit so I’ll just jot them done as they come to me.

*I felt that the female actors were just devices used to getting a characters description across (so very annoying), the reporter character was completely pointless and seemed to just say the dumbest things that just made me shake my head. Such terrible acting by both woman.

*I did really enjoy the funeral fight scene, the elemental baddies and Lo-Pan was good value but it felt like it was on the same level as Ice Pirates or The Adventures of Baron Munchausen for action adventure in the mid/late 80’s, and no body ever mentions those films so favorably.

*The lines felt so cheesy that they weren’t funny, and really forced acting from most of the people involved.

*I like the idea of Jack Burton being (I’m not sure of the correct terminology here) a reluctant hero who’s sidekicks always save the day. It’s funny and enjoyable but in this it just felt so forced. And the obvious loss of Jack’s shirt :roll: give me a break.

I’m going to get crap, I can see it now and maybe I’m too young to truly appreciate; or am missing the point, but even though I didn’t hate it and will happily watch it again I don’t really understand the praise.
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Postby Fawst on Fri Apr 20, 2007 9:35 am

It really is a "Child of the 80's" thing. Someone else said it better than me, this movie had EVERYTHING we wanted as kids.

As for the stuff like the useless character, the bad dialogue (at times), the endless exposition, the deliberate removal of his shirt (especially the wtf timing) are all very much done with respect to the fact that these things would be stupid in a "serious" movie.

BTILC is very, VERY much a tongue-in-cheek, wink and a nod to the viewer type of movie. It's a classic example of having to know the rules to break the rules. It may not be everyone's cup of tea, especially today, but god DAMN if this wasn't THE movie to worship as a kid in the 80's.

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Postby MonkeyM666 on Fri Apr 20, 2007 9:39 am

hummm... I was born in '81 so I get what you’re saying but in all honesty it just sounds like fanboy excuses for a poorly written/acted film. I think that they're where my main grips lay, as the over all plot was cool, and the seemed characters flat but interesting enough for their purpose. I don't know, it just bothered me I guess.

EDIT: I should add that it's not like I don't like 'bad' movies, Commando is a great flick for that exact reason.
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Postby tapehead on Fri Apr 20, 2007 9:47 am

MonkeyM666 wrote:Ok, I watched Big trouble in Little China a couple of nights ago for the first time


I think this is the key - try to imagine having seen it in between the ages of 12 to 17.
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Postby MonkeyM666 on Fri Apr 20, 2007 9:49 am

Good point... maybe I am just too old to get it now, but I do keep a pretty open mind to everything I watch and try and see it from the POV of the over enthused.

I’m not that far off of 17….. am I?? :(
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Postby tapehead on Fri Apr 20, 2007 9:55 am

I was referring more to the sentimentality that people have for the movie - I love it, but if I saw it for the first time now, I might not love it as much.
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Postby MonkeyM666 on Fri Apr 20, 2007 9:59 am

Fair enough. I can't really argue against that. I loved Super Mario Bros. Movie for a short amount of time in my youth.
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Postby tapehead on Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:04 am

yep - but I think it's a youthful crush that hangs on, rather than a foolish fancy like Mario brothers
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Postby MonkeyM666 on Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:08 am

:razz:




it didn't feel foolish at the time :(
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Postby Fawst on Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:15 am

MonkeyM666 wrote:I should add that it's not like I don't like 'bad' movies, Commando is a great flick for that exact reason.


This, too, is key. Commando is a "bad" movie because it's just a bad movie. BTILC is a "bad" movie by design. Kind of satirical.

Hey, Zardoz isn't everyone's cup of tea, either, but I would argue that it's one of, if not THE, best Connery films. Different strokes, and all.

But yah, I saw this movie when I was like 10 for the first time, so my love for it was instantaneous.
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Postby MonkeyM666 on Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:17 am

I guess that's what I don't beleive. That it's bad by design.... has it been stated by the writers or directors?
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Postby tapehead on Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:22 am

Obviously I need to sit you down to watch Dark Star too...
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Postby MonkeyM666 on Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:23 am

I think you will, considering that I've only ever heard of it once or twice....

EDIT AFTER HAVING A LOOK ON WIKI: Sounds a little like what Sunshine's about...
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Postby tapehead on Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:35 am

kinda, at least in a philosophical sense (I saw Sunshine last night and it actually references Dark Star a couple of times) - but it's a black comedy, scripted by Dan O Bannon and directed by Carpenter while they were both still just in film school and made with no budget really to speak of. What Fawst mentions, that sort of ironic, 'bad by design' feel, or rather 'brilliant because of it's occasional flimsiness and silliness' - is present in Dark Star in spades.
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Postby MonkeyM666 on Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:38 am

Sounds cool, Dan O'Bannon he's the Alien writer right?

I knew that I should have reiterated that I understand the concept of what bad by design is, but I just wasn't sure that it applied here. That's all... :)
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Postby King Psyz on Fri Apr 20, 2007 11:45 am

MonkeyM666 wrote:Fair enough. I can't really argue against that. I loved Super Mario Bros. Movie for a short amount of time in my youth.

well see, that completely invalidates your opinion about Big Trouble in Little China.

The other thing is you can't disect BTiLC like that or you will find things that bother you. It's like a ride at Disenyland. Yes they're pedestrian, forced, and outright silly, but you enjoy it because that's the point. To let go of reason and let yourself get into the feel.

Same goes with Comando, you can not watch that movie and disect it like you did BTiLC because I'll tell you what, I did that with my brother a few months back and had to stop at some point. Why does Arnie roll a car and then drive it away brand new? Why is there a psycho mercanary wearing chainmail? Why is it the cops come with like two fucking cars to a surplus store robery (which I used to shop at, great deals on Ben Davis) and yet nobody bats an eye to a girl driving away from the scene in a convertible full of heavy artillery and then proceeds to blow the fuck out of a SWAT van with no escort? Why wasn't teh LAPD on high alert after the mall incident? Shit that's just in the first half hour I found al this and I left alot out.

But I still love that movie and will stop everything when it comes on.
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Postby tapehead on Fri Apr 20, 2007 11:49 am

I can talk it over and analyse it all I want - I still love it, and it stands up well to that kind of scrutiny, IMO.
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Big Trouble in Little China discussion / Jack Burton Quotes

Postby bastard_robo on Sat Apr 21, 2007 6:03 am

Channel 11 in LA use to air this thing all the time when I was a kid.

My dad loved it and made me watch it over and over again


Then there was almost a 10 year period in which I hadnt seen it, when I was much Older, I finally got to see it again with a diffrent set of eyes.. and only then did I realize who truly badass this movie is.

So the second it came out on dvd, I laid out $21.95 at Suncoast Video for the 2 disc set (wich is no out of print!) and have watched it many, many of times since.

I even have a Jack Burton figure, mint in box, mounted above my closet at home, and as soon as I find a frame big enough, the poster is going up in my house.

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Postby thefraze on Tue Jun 02, 2009 6:51 pm

I obviously don't have to tell anyone here how AWESOME this movie is!

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Re: Big Trouble in Little China Discussion / Jack Burton Quo

Postby TheButcher on Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:05 am

A free mixtape of John Carpenter's greatest soundtracks by Alan Howarth
Cyriaque Lamar wrote:What's better than a mixtape of John Carpenter's finest movie themes? How about a mixtape curated by his longtime musical collaborator Alan Howarth, who co-composed the soundtracks for Escape From New York, They Live, and Big Trouble in Little China?

Howarth made this mix for electronic music magazine Resident Advisor's Halloween podcast. The tracklist isn't listed, but if you ever needed a crash course in the music of John Carpenter, this is it — the soundtrack covers everything from Christine to ol' Jack Burton's theme song. You can download the MP3 of this 61-minute mix here. Ridiculously recommended.

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Postby King Psyz on Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:22 am

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Postby Hermanator X on Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:38 am

TheButcher wrote:A free mixtape of John Carpenter's greatest soundtracks by Alan Howarth
Cyriaque Lamar wrote:What's better than a mixtape of John Carpenter's finest movie themes? How about a mixtape curated by his longtime musical collaborator Alan Howarth, who co-composed the soundtracks for Escape From New York, They Live, and Big Trouble in Little China?

Howarth made this mix for electronic music magazine Resident Advisor's Halloween podcast. The tracklist isn't listed, but if you ever needed a crash course in the music of John Carpenter, this is it — the soundtrack covers everything from Christine to ol' Jack Burton's theme song. You can download the MP3 of this 61-minute mix here. Ridiculously recommended.

[Resident Advisor via Nerdcore]


Hey no fair Butch! You could at least credit me with the find in Random movie news you cad!! :lol:
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Postby magicmonkey on Tue Nov 02, 2010 9:28 am

Hermanator X wrote:
TheButcher wrote:A free mixtape of John Carpenter's greatest soundtracks by Alan Howarth
Cyriaque Lamar wrote:What's better than a mixtape of John Carpenter's finest movie themes? How about a mixtape curated by his longtime musical collaborator Alan Howarth, who co-composed the soundtracks for Escape From New York, They Live, and Big Trouble in Little China?

Howarth made this mix for electronic music magazine Resident Advisor's Halloween podcast. The tracklist isn't listed, but if you ever needed a crash course in the music of John Carpenter, this is it — the soundtrack covers everything from Christine to ol' Jack Burton's theme song. You can download the MP3 of this 61-minute mix here. Ridiculously recommended.

[Resident Advisor via Nerdcore]


Hey no fair Butch! You could at least credit me with the find in Random movie news you cad!! :lol:
Dont make me unleash the pork chop express on ya!


OMFGZ. Thanks all round, I expect nothing but total badassery. In fact I think I'll pop my pumpkin when/if the theme from teh fog comes on.
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Postby Hermanator X on Tue Nov 02, 2010 9:44 am

I just got done listening to it actually. Its pretty good. My morning vanished, and my productivity soared! Thanks Mr Carpenter.
Killer opening sample too. :mrgreen:
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Postby magicmonkey on Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:07 pm

Hermanator X wrote:I just got done listening to it actually. Its pretty good. My morning vanished, and my productivity soared! Thanks Mr Carpenter.
Killer opening sample too. :mrgreen:


Listening now, :mrgreen: indeed.
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Postby TheButcher on Fri Nov 05, 2010 3:12 pm

All Hail Hermanator X!
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What's better than a mixtape of John Carpenter's finest movie themes? How about a mixtape curated by his longtime musical collaborator Alan Howarth, who co-composed the soundtracks for Escape From New York, They Live, and Big Trouble in Little China?



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Postby Nice Marmot on Mon Aug 15, 2011 3:47 pm

Fawst wrote:I will NEVER step foot into a Blockbuster again. I don't even rent there anymore thanks to NetFlix. I only went in to buy a used movie. Never again.


HOW old is this discussion, you ask?

And yes, Big Trouble kicks all kinds of ass to this day. Nuff said . . .
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Postby King Psyz on Mon Aug 15, 2011 3:51 pm

I got the blu ray on black friday for like $5
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Re: Big Trouble in Little China Discussion / Jack Burton Quo

Postby TheButcher on Thu Mar 06, 2014 4:47 am

What was the hairy humanoid monster from Big Trouble in Little China?


Big Trouble in Little China - The W.D. Richter Screenplay


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The director of the 1986 cult movie will be consulting with writer Eric Powell on the new Boom! Studios spinoff, launching this summer.
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