Ocean's 13... seriously, another one

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Postby so sorry on Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:09 pm

trailer is up

http://movies.aol.com/movie/oceans-13/24822/trailer


so they suckered Pacino into it this time.

I say as long as its one-thirteenth (get it) better than the last one, it'll be a sucess.

Of course, with this much man-meat in it, my wife will definetly want to see it.
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Postby havocSchultz on Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:09 pm

so sorry wrote: my wife will definetly want to see it.


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Postby Bob Samonkey on Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:12 pm

havocSchultz wrote:
so sorry wrote: my wife will definetly want to see it.


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Postby WinslowLeach on Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:13 pm

I cant say I'm a big fan of the Oceans films. I doubt I'll go see this at the movies. The whole gang of wiseass robbers genre is sort of played out isnt it?
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Postby so sorry on Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:17 pm

I don't know if its played out WL, but that O12 REALLY sucked ass.

I can suspend disbelief only to a certain extent. they lifted a fucking house Venice for fuke'ssake, just so they could shoot a crossbow in a wall from a hundred yards away.

Here's hoping that Big Al will help make this one go.
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Postby WinslowLeach on Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:21 pm

HOO AHHHH!!! GREAT ASS!!!!
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Postby Chairman Kaga on Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:27 pm

Man....
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Postby buster00 on Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:37 pm

Yikes.

Yeah, I'll probably catch it sooner or later...I like heist flicks...

But I can't say I'm looking forward to it. Ocean's Twelve really did suck a hell of a lot.


The first remake was OK, but there's only ever been one Ocean's Eleven for me, and it was made before George Clooney was even born yet.
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Postby Lady Sheridan on Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:42 pm

I didn't even see the second one. It just came and went off my radar.

Frankly, the man-meat in it doesn't interest me much so I'll even pass on that.
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Postby Vegeta on Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:43 pm

The first one (remake, that is) was pretty fun...

The second one I couldn't even watch for more than ten minutes...

I'll maybe catch the third on cable...
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Postby minstrel on Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:43 pm

The Oceans movies don't make any sense from a heist standpoint. Still, the character interaction is cool. I loved:

Brad Pitt: Look, it's not in my nature to be mysterious, but I can't talk about it and I can't talk about why. <enters cab and leaves>

Matt Damon: oooooOOOOOoooooo .... <chews gum>
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Postby WinslowLeach on Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:55 pm

I still like the Rat Pack Oceans 11 more than the stupid remake. I'm sorry but I just can't support this franchise.
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Postby The Ginger Man on Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:55 pm

I'm excited about this. It's fun to watch actors admittedly dick around on camera for millions of dollars.

Seriously though, I dig the Ocean movies. 12 was certainly contained alot of bleh but I enjoyed the back-and-forth. And it makes for good background noise when it's on cable. Plus, I'm excited to see the old crew try to chew scenery around Pacino. Al versus George should be amazing, no matter how the rest of it turns out.
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Postby MasterWhedon on Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:56 pm

I'll say it: I really like the Ocean's films.

Thought the first one was supercool awesome fun. Thought the second had some really great moments and some inventive bits, but ultimately fails. Still, it's an interesting failure. And I'm really looking forward to the third one, partly because it looks to be a return to the style of the first film and partly because it's written by the guys who thunk up Rounders, one of my favorite films.

Not gonna lie, I'll be there opening weekend.
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Postby minstrel on Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:58 pm

WinslowLeach wrote:I still like the Rat Pack Oceans 11 more than the stupid remake. I'm sorry but I just can't support this franchise.


I don't like the Rat Pack version. The Rat Pack sucked. Sinatra was evil and it's a good thing he's dead.
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Postby Chairman Kaga on Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:03 pm

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Postby WinslowLeach on Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:04 pm

LOL!

Sorry, but the Rat Pack (Frank, Sammy, Dino, Peter) will ALWAYS and FOREVER be cooler to me than George Clooney, Arm Pitt, Matt Damon and Don Cheadle.

The main difference between them is that The Rat Pack were as cool in reality as their characters were, the remake guys are just acting like cool characters.
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Postby Fievel on Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:10 pm

WinslowLeach wrote:The main difference between them is that The Rat Pack were as cool in reality as their characters were, the remake guys are just acting like cool characters.


Anyone who gets drunk with Danny DeVito on lemoncellos to the point that he's still wasted on The View is cool to me.

I found the first one to be more fun than I could have possibly expected. The second one was still interesting to me, but nowhere near as fun. And the Julia Roberts jokes were old fast. But most of all, I really REALLY dug the music in the movies (especially the first). Here's hoping that it all comes together for this one.
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Postby buster00 on Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:17 pm

Fievel wrote: But most of all, I really REALLY dug the music in the movies (especially the first). Here's hoping that it all comes together for this one.


Arr, right you are there, matey! The score is supreme. David Holmes, yes?
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Postby Fievel on Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:33 pm

David Holmes indeed. Funky, funky stuff.
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Postby papalazeru on Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:47 pm

I got A feeling omg this will suck.


I'll still watch it though.



Sounds like a cash in to me. No real thought was put into the sequel so I think this will have even less budget and just be a money maker.

Fuck Hollywood.

Where is PJ when you need low budget.....waiting for his cheap (In the good sense) return.

Someone give hime 50 cents and ask him to make a movie? Guarantee'd it'll be quality.

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Postby Tyrone_Shoelaces on Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:17 pm

I'm diggin' that trailer and I enjoyed the hell out of 11 and 12 so I am definitely in line for this one.
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Postby DinoDeLaurentiis on Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:09 am

Julia Roberts, she canna die enough of a the horrible deaths, eh?
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Postby ONeillSG1 on Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:27 am

minstrel wrote:The Rat Pack sucked. Sinatra was evil and it's a good thing he's dead.


WHAT BLASPHEMY IS THIS?!?!?!
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Postby so sorry on Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:35 am

ONeillSG1 wrote:
minstrel wrote:The Rat Pack sucked. Sinatra was evil and it's a good thing he's dead.


WHAT BLASPHEMY IS THIS?!?!?!


whoa, I missed that slanderous remark.

Minstrel, how dare you!
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Postby TheBaxter on Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:09 pm

i couldn't make it through the last one. i don't want another one to exist. please make it go away, mommy.
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Postby Zarles on Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:49 pm

I know there's not a lot of love around these parts for these movies, but I saw O13 this weekend and had a blast with it. It felt much more like the original (Soderberg's first, that is) than O12 did, and taking it back to Vegas just felt right.

Anyone else?
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Postby minstrel on Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:52 pm

I haven't seen it yet, but I'm looking forward to it. I'm one of the few people who liked BOTH O11 AND O12. I didn't care that O12 made no sense and had Catherine Zeta-Jones in it. I liked it IN SPITE of those issues.
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Postby Zarles on Sun Jun 10, 2007 1:10 pm

I liked both of the first two movies, too, and I thought that O12 made fine sense. A little fantastical and ridiculous, but still a lot of fun nonetheless. This one is much closer in structure and tone to O11, though, and it even comes off more as a revenge film than the expected caper/heist thing. All the acting is top-notch, and my only real problem with the actors is that I wished Ellen Barkin was used more. Her setup is great, but as the story is told, her character arc just kinda drops off. I would've loved to have seen her as much more of a formidable opponent to the Ocean crew.
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Postby Ribbons on Sun Jun 10, 2007 1:20 pm

I couldn't get into Twelve at all, but it could have just been that I was turned off by all of the in-jokes about Julia Roberts looking like Julia Roberts, and Bruce Willis' random cameo as Bruce Willis. Too many flashbacks to Full Frontal, perhaps.
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Postby Zarles on Sun Jun 10, 2007 2:12 pm

All the more reason to be happy that Julia's not in this one at all. The only reason she was in any of them is because she's got her head so far up Soderbergh's ass. She's not missed in the slightest, and I don't mean only by me (or anyone else in the audience, for that matter).
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Postby burlivesleftnut on Mon Jun 11, 2007 12:01 am

Yeah I really enjoyed this movie. I was just totally inebriated on the cinematography, acting and editing. I especially loved all the shit that made it seem like it could have been a lost episode of Hawaii 5-O or Vega$.
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Postby Zarles on Mon Jun 11, 2007 12:03 am

It was the cinematography. Soderbergh shot the thing like Burt Reynolds was about to walk out and start chewing up all his scenery.
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Postby Gheorghe Zamfir on Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:28 pm

I was pretty lukewarm to Ocean's 11 and 12, but I still gave this one a shot cause the admen for these flicks cut an enticing trailer. Glad I did too I ended up really liking it. It took em three tries but they finally delivered the kind of film I had hoped the first two would be. It was casual where the first two were lazy, cool where the others were presumptious (or even masturbatory), and fun when the prequels felt a bit like an inside joke, and most importantly its a movie about male bonding, which is what a flick "starring" 11 dudes really oughta be, rather than a half assed love story wedged into an even half assier heist. All this plus a subtle commentary on old Vegas vs new Vegas (something I kinda thought the first one would play with). Good stuff.
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Postby Seppuku on Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:50 pm

Saw it twice, and really enjoyed it on both occasions, which is quite something coming from me: I almost never see a new release twice, but I think we're in a bit of a big screen dry patch here at the moment, and I needed a cinema fix.

I loved the fact that the jokes are played so drily. So much so, that I'm sure even a few of them went right over my head. Though at least I caught one reference that some of the American viewers might have missed: Morecambe & Wise are a British comedy duo from the sixties, sort of like the Limey equivalent of Ed Sullivan (times two), but less smarmy, and funnier.

Great acting all round (with the possible exception of Andy Garcia); and I thought they managed to integrate all the various characters a little better this time, though admittedly at the expense of Ocean himself, George Clooney, who is a bit of a shadow in this movie.

Pacino's good as the villain, though the rumours you might have heard about him downplaying his role were not entirely founded. Sure, he does shout less, but he's still a total kleptomaniac when it comes to stealing the screen.

Just slick, laid-back good times at the cinema. I'd try and think of something bad to say about it, but I'm drawing a blank.
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Postby burlivesleftnut on Sun Jul 01, 2007 8:55 pm

That's great, but Ed Sullivan wasn't a comedian.
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Postby Seppuku on Sun Jul 01, 2007 8:59 pm

burlivesleftnut wrote:That's great, but Ed Sullivan wasn't a comedian.


Morecambe & Wise presented a variety act/talk show. Also, they both had the Beatles on.
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Postby Cpt Kirks 2pay on Sun Jul 01, 2007 9:28 pm

OK I liked this movie too, but I think you guys are more satisfied with it than I am.

It's all well executed and trying to keep up with the technicalities of each little operation in the Casino was great to watch, even if some stuff I didn't get. All players are cool and smooth and it was nice to see Al as a guy who you actually disliked as a person, rather than watch and enjoy Al play a bad guy like I've done sometimes does before. Somehow in this film he seemed to remain more genuinely unlikeable than he has done in the past. Maybe 'cos he looks more concentrated and focused with his toned down performance, maybe 'cos he's surrounded by other supporting players, virtually all of whom are good guys that you're rooting for.

I thought it was nice that the whole operation didn't go completely to plan and it had some bumps and problems that they had to overcome. It wasn't a straightforward by the numbers job that the first one was. This one had a LITTLE bit of suspense. But again, personally it only represented something in me that I wanted more. The 3rd film in (never saw the 2nd though) I thought it could have been more at stake, more drama going on in their plan. Like it threatened to go wrong SERIOUSLY, like they were even more close to being caught and really had their backs up against the wall. More sweat, fear, more drama. So things weren't going as clockwork as in O11. But hey, that's just me. Again, it's something that I personally would like to have seen, make it more different than the first or second one for starters. What we are left with is a highly enjoyable, entertaining cool and flash easy going movie, chilling with real decent likeable guys who you'd want to hang out with.

But when it's done with it's pretty forgettable stuff. Nothing too demanding or too special. But if someone asked me if I wanted to see it again, hell yeah. A few times actually.

I do have a quibble or two extra also. The whole way that Ellen Barkin was seduced was a bit exaggerated and maybe implausible for me. For such an important part of the operation too, a part that the success or failure of the whole job hung on I would have like to have been more convinced. I just don't think that the aphrodisac that they used could be that effective and powerful on her. Maybe it's me and I've never witnessed something like that in real life, I dunno, but I just have my doubts about it.

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Also, at the end I think Ocean's gang have their cards marked for them by Pacino more than Clooney lets on. Even if the 'people who really know how to hurt' may like Clooney more than Al, I still don't think that that's the end of the story and that Pacino could still get his own back (surely there's other people that he could find to do the job on Clooney's crew). Again, this may be part of the ending's point leaving things open for a O14, but if this is not the case, then I feel unconvinced about their safety.

Also if someone can help me out with Clooney's anger over Garcia trying to steal the diamonds. Why didn't Garcia just ask for them in the first place (Or did he? Can't remember now)? Is there a reason that Clooney didn't want him to have them if he did ask?

I dunno, I think I'm being a bit of a prat here with this point. Again, I can't remember it properly and am misinterpreting it most likely. If someone can wrap this up for me, that'd be great.

But yeah, overall, well made easy going fun, not much more. Not brilliant, but still fresh, virtually perfect, focused and riveting enough to keep you hooked and gagging to see what comes next to make this film an enjoyable ride.
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Postby Seppuku on Sun Jul 01, 2007 9:55 pm

Major Spoilers:


I had the same questions in my head when I saw this film. One other question, too, was how much money did Ocean and the gang lose? They must have lost money, considering how much they had to pay for those two machines. There are limits in how much you can bet (and win) in those casinos, and I'm kinda doubtful they made back the money they spent on the drills and gave to charity at the end.

I get that they like Elliot Gould and all, but dayumn, they must be a right bunch of Mother Teresas.

The mention of the fact that Elliot Gould gets his land back if Pacino loses a certain amount of money seems kinda messy and vague (IF that's what they said). It's kinda doubtful that Pacino would have a clause in that contract he forced him to sign with that in it.

If none of the above made any sense, put it down to the fact that it's 3am and I'm running on empty right now.
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Postby Cpt Kirks 2pay on Sun Jul 01, 2007 10:59 pm

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Yeah I'm with ya on the loss side of things there too, Sepp.

The fact that they all put in as much money as they could afford (why else go to Garcia for help when they hit the brick wall?). The limits of winnings in the casinos were lifted so that you could win as much as you wanted, but those winnings weren't for the gang were they? Not much at least.

Then you had to give Elliot Gould his share too.

The diamonds? Well, that all went to charity didn't it? Did they keep any of this? Ethical reasons, no, as for one thing, it'd be like stealing from Andy Garcia too, therefore getting themselves into trouble with him again.

Maybe it'll all come back to me later on and it is now 4AM, but still, RIGHT NOW I find it hard to see how they could earn all their investments back.
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Postby godzillasushi on Mon Nov 19, 2007 11:46 am

Well I got this on DVD and im in everyone elses boat. It’s a good movie, but maybe the weakest of the three. I guess it’s because it does a play off the heist type of movie. Instead of robbing the casino they just allow everyone else to win. And maybe that’s a good way to go. Instead of doing it for themselves they give everyone the chance to win. It managed to be twisty and still remain fresh. Im probably in the minority but I like the second the most. The other two are toss-ups because they are similar in style and yet completely different.

It was probably the best story they could do for a third movie though. I can’t imagine them doing anything better then that. And the one dude from the second one was a pretty cool idea. They brought back everyone that mattered. They gave the characters all a little something. Everyone in the movie is a great actor, they all make great movies. It’s just nice to have them all there again. Like they actually cared about making the movie and not making money. Gotta say, I enjoy Bernie Mac selling his casino game. The stuff in Mexico was verrrry funny. And Andy Garcia is the weakest character of them all. I guess that’s because he has 2 scenes that could be important at all. Even that bald biker guy from the first one made an appearance. I like that. Makes it way more fun. The sets were great too.

I don’t think they lost money on the job since they had everyone financing the operation. Benedict covered a large part of the cost. And I doubt anyone came after Ocean since Pacino’s guy probably went broke and lost any support he had. And those diamonds were supposed to be worth 450 million or something. The charity was for 72 million I think. They could have easily made their money back if I remember it all correctly.

I’m glad they did another one. How often do you get that many big-name actors in one movie, let alone three movies? And it’s good….over time we will appreciate it.

7/10 fits it for me.
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Postby Fievel on Mon Nov 19, 2007 1:56 pm

My order for the Ocean's films would be 1,3,2 as far as favorites, and that's not saying I hated the second one - it just felt different overall.
The best thing about all three movies?

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Postby DDMAN26 on Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:02 pm

I wish the dvd's offered a music only track. As for me I loved 11. Thought 12 was just meh. This one I really enjoyed.
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Re: Ocean's 11... seriously, another one

Postby TheButcher on Fri May 13, 2016 8:23 pm

Exclusive: All-Female ‘Ocean’s Eleven’ In The Works Starring Sandra Bullock, With Gary Ross Directing

{EXCLUSIVE} JENNIFER LAWRENCE AND GARY ROSS LOOK TO RE-TEAM ON “OCEAN’S 11″ REBOOT
Lawrence has risen to the top of producers’ shortlist to join Sandra Bullock in the continuation of the hit Ocean’s franchise.
Josh Lyons wrote:The female-centric OCEAN’S 11 REBOOT might be on the verge of making its next big score, as we’re hearing that X-Men: Apocalypse star Jennifer Lawrence is being eyed for a role opposite Sandra Bullock in the Warner Bros. caper.

This would re-team Lawrence with her Hunger Games writer-director Gary Ross, who is set to helm the reboot and is penning the screenplay with Queen and Country scribe Olivia Milch. Fans have been suggesting the Lawrence-Ross re-teaming as a possibility for months, but we’re hearing that Lawrence has landed at the top of the producers’ shortlist, as well.

Sources reveal that the story, which is expected to be a continuation of the mega-successful George Clooney-led trilogy, centers around Bullock’s character, who plays an ex-con and Danny Ocean’s sister. With a team of thieves, she sets out of steal a necklace from the Met Ball and frame a crooked gallery owner. Lawrence is being considered for the role of Bullock’s right-hand woman.

Ross is set to produce with Alison Thomas through their Larger than Life Productions, with Diana Alvarez serving as the executive. Jesse Ehrman and Julia Spiro will oversee for Warners.

The project was first announced back in October, when it was confirmed late Ocean’s producer Jerry Weintraub had concocted the concept with Clooney and Soderbergh. After Weintraub’s passing, the project understandably stalled, but Milch continued writing a draft which was turned in to producers. From there, Bullock came on board to serve as an anchor to what the studio hopes to be a cast rivaling the star-power of the Soderbergh films, which included Clooney, Brad Pitt, Matt Damon, and Julia Roberts.

If Lawrence ultimately signs on, she could prove to be the box office potency for which producers have been aiming and would help attract further A-list talent to what is clearly Warners’ attempt to capitalize on the trend of the female-centric reboot; Sony’s Ghostbusters hits theaters this summer, while Lionsgate is in the works with an all-female Expendables sequel. Lawrence, who has a tendency to work with directors with whom she’s previously had successful collaborations, including David O. Russell and Frances Lawrence, would be reunited with Ross for the first time.

The film is expected to start shooting next fall, so it makes sense that producers would want to get their biggest cast members set as soon as possible. Lawrence, not surprisingly, maintains a demanding schedule, which includes her forthcoming comedy project with Amy Schumer (which Lawrence is co-writing), The Dive with Catching Fire and Mockingjay director Francis Lawrence, and an untitled drama with Darren Aronofsky. She recently wrapped on the sci-fi romance Passengers, opposite Chris Pratt, and will reprise her role as Mystique in this month’s X-Men: Apocalypse.
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