The Official Live Free or Review Hard Thread! (SPOILERS)

New movies! Old movies! B-movies! Discuss discuss discuss!!!

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Best. Die Hard. Evar. (even better than the 1st...)
2
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Worse Than the 1st - Better than the other 2...
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25%
Better Than the 2nd - Worse than the other 2...
7
16%
Better Than the 3rd - Worse than the other 2...
6
14%
Worst. Die Hard. Evar. (but at least it's better than Underworld...)
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Even worse than Underworld...
1
2%
I'm waiting till Die Hard in a Living Room...(DVD, etc...)
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Fuck Die Hard (I won't be seeing this...)
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The Official Live Free or Review Hard Thread! (SPOILERS)

Postby colonel_lugz on Wed May 31, 2006 5:04 am

I think it's time we had a thread for this as it's pretty much inevitable that it will happen.

This is from the main page

Fox dredges the UNDERWORLD for their director on DIE HARD 4.0!
Hey folks, Harry here... Fox, in an attempt to always find a better director than the last time out, has gone from John McTiernan to Len Wiseman, director of the UNDERWORLD films for their next installment of DIE HARD... which is apparently being called DIE HARD 4.0, where John McClane comes out of retirement to fight a gang of viscious Internet Terrorists! I'm sure they're not talking about John McClane fighting a group of geeks that have been doing person-2-person dvd burning or downloading of films currently in theaters... or... maybe they are. After all, Fox has ALIENS VS PREDATORS in a fucking Walmart... don't they? I remember reading that somewhere... oh yeah, Moriarty wrote that. Hmmmm...


Im already pissed off

I reckon McTiernan should have come back for one more, Die hard with a Vengence was a fantastic film. With the wrong director onboard this could be bad.
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Postby papalazeru on Wed May 31, 2006 5:13 am

Wiseman wouldnt be a bad choice.

Story wise(man), Underworld wasnt that bad, it was just a little bit poo on Direction, at least the sequel was worse.

Bring in the Whedon.

I'll go with bringing Tiernon back for another round. Good job on 1 & 3 so a last fourth could be very good.
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Postby doglips on Wed May 31, 2006 5:15 am

They should just leave it at 3 IMO.
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Postby RogueScribner on Wed May 31, 2006 5:18 am

There was no need for sequels to Die Hard, but at least the third one tried something new and was fun overall. Do we really need a #4?
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Postby colonel_lugz on Wed May 31, 2006 5:20 am

RogueScribner wrote:There was no need for sequels to Die Hard, but at least the third one tried something new and was fun overall. Do we really need a #4?


I personally dont think so, but we're gonna get it anyway. So i'm gonna be as supportive as I can in the hope it will be good
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Postby Flumm on Wed May 31, 2006 5:27 am

OMG WTF< BUT HE'S NOT DEAD YET!!!11
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Postby Proinsias on Wed May 31, 2006 5:33 am

Hmmmm. I can only see this panning out badly.. 1, 2 and 3 were fantastic...dont really want anymore... Maybe Len will cast Bill Nighy as the villain, that would be exciting.
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Postby papalazeru on Wed May 31, 2006 5:36 am

So long as Kate gets to wear leather then Im sure Bill with star alongside Bruce as arch enemies.
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Postby Flumm on Wed May 31, 2006 5:42 am

This just ain't natural I tells ya.

Sigh, I miss MITB and Angent Alonzo at times like these. I guess sometimes things just need a little helping hand to get them in the going in their rightfull directions.

I guess I'll start you off...



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Postby RogueScribner on Wed May 31, 2006 5:43 am

I will only watch another sequel if Alan Rickman is in it. I don't care if it makes sense that he's in it, but if he is, I'm there!
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Postby TonyWilson on Wed May 31, 2006 5:45 am

When you think about it, isn't Die Hard a really crappy title, I meand Die, hard??? It means nothing. And McClane never dies.

Ah well.
And I always thought they should set the 4th one in a huge labyrinthine shopping mall. That would be cool.
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Postby doglips on Wed May 31, 2006 5:46 am

Flumm wrote:This just ain't natural I tells ya.

Sigh, I miss MITB and Angent Alonzo at times like these. I guess sometimes things just need a little helping hand to get them in the going in their rightfull directions.

I guess I'll start you off...



Die Hard 4: Still Dying


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Postby RogueScribner on Wed May 31, 2006 5:48 am

Die Hard: Die Hardest!
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Postby colonel_lugz on Wed May 31, 2006 5:48 am

TonyWilson wrote:When you think about it, isn't Die Hard a really crappy title, I meand Die, hard??? It means nothing. And McClane never dies.

Ah well.
And I always thought they should set the 4th one in a huge labyrinthine shopping mall. That would be cool.


Its not a crappy title, its powerful, everytime i say it for some reason I have to grit me teeth really hard.

And a shopping mall would be quite a cool idea, or a luxury cruise liner.

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Postby doglips on Wed May 31, 2006 5:49 am

TonyWilson wrote:And I always thought they should set the 4th one in a huge labyrinthine shopping mall. That would be cool.


I was thinking a Maple Bar factory would be a cool setting.
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Postby colonel_lugz on Wed May 31, 2006 5:50 am

thedoglippedone wrote:
TonyWilson wrote:And I always thought they should set the 4th one in a huge labyrinthine shopping mall. That would be cool.


I was thinking a Maple Bar factory would be a cool setting.


A hardware department store
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Postby Flumm on Wed May 31, 2006 5:58 am

RogueScribner wrote:Die Hard: Die Hardest!


Yess. Yeeeessss. It's the exclimation mark that would sell it. That's where we would make our millions...


...and of course the menacing, vaguely eastern european, travelling Deadly Carny Circus.








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Postby papalazeru on Wed May 31, 2006 6:03 am

*Spoiler Alert*

Its set in a Childrens Novelty store......


AND ITS VACATION TIME!!!!!


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Postby TonyWilson on Wed May 31, 2006 6:07 am

Set it in a garden centre and have a Day Of The Triffids mash up

Die Hard 4: Prune or Death!!!!
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Postby RogueScribner on Wed May 31, 2006 6:20 am

Die Hard 4: Price Check of Death!

Die Hard: Too Soon!

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Postby Fried Gold on Wed May 31, 2006 6:50 am

It apparently "revolves around computers" according to most reports. How wonderful.

Die Hard: Die Online

Die Hard: Why won't you let me die?
Die Hard: Please just let me be
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Postby papalazeru on Wed May 31, 2006 7:08 am

If its to do with computers....

Die Hard: Tron

Maybe if the film has to do with clowns using computers.....

Die hard: Die Har-dy-har-der

Maybe all the bad guys are dressed as Shakespere, Marlowe, Johnson and Chaucer....

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Postby Fried Gold on Wed May 31, 2006 7:20 am

If the makers of Snakes of a Plane were making it:

Die Hard 4: Terrorists with computers are defeated by John McClane.
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Postby papalazeru on Wed May 31, 2006 7:29 am

Cant......comment.......on that.........

TOO.........FUNNY........
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Re: Die Hard 4.0

Postby Cpt Kirks 2pay on Wed May 31, 2006 7:55 am

colonel_lugz wrote:I think it's time we had a thread for this as it's pretty much inevitable that it will happen.

This is from the main page

Fox dredges the UNDERWORLD for their director on DIE HARD 4.0!
Hey folks, Grande Rojo here... Fox, in an attempt to always find a better director than the last time out, has gone from John McTiernan to Len Wiseman, director of the UNDERWORLD films for their next installment of DIE HARD... which is apparently being called DIE HARD 4.0, where John McClane comes out of retirement to fight a gang of viscious Internet Terrorists! I'm sure they're not talking about John McClane fighting a group of geeks that have been doing person-2-person dvd burning or downloading of films currently in theaters... or... maybe they are. After all, Fox has ALIENS VS PREDATORS in a fucking Walmart... don't they? I remember reading that somewhere... oh yeah, Moriarty wrote that. Hmmmm...


Im already pissed off

I reckon McTiernan should have come back for one more, Die hard with a Vengence was a fantastic film. With the wrong director onboard this could be bad.


THEY'RE MAKING DIE HARD 4!!!!!
THEY'RE MAKING DIE HARD 4!!!!!
THEY'RE MAKING DIE HARD 4!!!!!
THEY'RE MAKING DIE HARD 4!!!!!
THEY'RE MAKING DIE HARD 4!!!!!
THEY'RE MAKING DIE HARD 4!!!!!

WHAT!!??? NO JOHN MCTIERNAN BUT THE DIRECTOR OF UNDERWORLD!!!!!???????? That film was meant to be shit wasn't it?!?!?!?!!?

FFFFFFAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Actually the story to this film sounds crappy. This film is sounding bad already. Remember when it was gonna be about McClane battling bad guy drug smugglers in the Amazon Jungle? Then it got turned into Tears of the Sun.
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Postby ThisIsTheGirl on Wed May 31, 2006 8:14 am

I'd love it if they'd gone with McTiernan too - but I guess he's kinda busy right now with Crash Bandits (which sounds pretty cool, IMO)

Anyhoo:

Proinsias wrote:1, 2 and 3 were fantastic...


Something should be missing from that statement, not quite sure what.

Oh, I know - it's the number 2 (Die Hard 2 was a "number two" in more ways than one!)
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Postby Cpt Kirks 2pay on Wed May 31, 2006 8:17 am

Die Hard 2 was the best 'action' picture of the lot, and one of the best 'action' films of it's era. It had the most outrageous and imaginitve action scenes and it even took on a slight sci-fi feel to it. However without a doubt it was the worst actual film of the lot. Crappy dialogue, cheesy acting, lack of real involvement or suspense. I still dig it though.
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Postby Doc Holliday on Wed May 31, 2006 8:20 am

papalazeru wrote:Wiseman wouldnt be a bad choice.

Story wise(man), Underworld wasnt that bad, it was just a little bit poo on Direction, at least the sequel was worse.

Bring in the Whedon.

I'll go with bringing Tiernon back for another round. Good job on 1 & 3 so a last fourth could be very good.


Ummm....but Wiseman WAS the Director...so if you thought the direction was lacking....ummm....

I'm a fan of Whedon....but the "secret language of Joss" (as Marti Noxon calls it) has no place in this film.

"What's up Mclane.....are you angry?"

"Meh.....not so much....."

or

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Postby Doc Holliday on Wed May 31, 2006 8:22 am

POSSIBLE SPOILER (look away look away)













not so long ago, I read on the AICN main board a report that said Willis would only agree to do a 4th if Mclane dies at the end. If he stands by this then the fourth one has the potential to be the best of the bunch....and I mean that for all the right reasons, not in a "Kill him I think he's shit" kinda way....
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Postby colonel_lugz on Wed May 31, 2006 8:23 am

John McClaine will never die, he's the fucking Energizer Bunny!!
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Postby Doc Holliday on Wed May 31, 2006 8:25 am

colonel_lugz wrote:
And a shopping mall would be quite a cool idea, or a luxury cruise liner.

DIE HARD 4: Cruise Control


Shopping Mall? You'll never top that set piece from Commando (snarf snarf)

Cruise Liner? Remember Speed 2; lest we ever forget :cry: :cry:

I think it should be set in CHUD's HQ if its going to be computer based. IMPORTANT: Nobody survives. Nobody.... :wink:
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Postby colonel_lugz on Wed May 31, 2006 8:27 am

Doc Holliday wrote:
colonel_lugz wrote:
And a shopping mall would be quite a cool idea, or a luxury cruise liner.

DIE HARD 4: Cruise Control


Shopping Mall? You'll never top that set piece from Commando (snarf snarf)

Cruise Liner? Remember Speed 2; lest we ever forget :cry: :cry:

I think it should be set in CHUD's HQ if its going to be computer based. IMPORTANT: Nobody survives. Nobody.... :wink:


that was kinda the joke there Doc, Cruise Control was the name of Speed 2, way to go "Mr Ruin The Joke"
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Postby Doc Holliday on Wed May 31, 2006 8:30 am

You're assuming some jokes have left sufficient scope to BE ruined.... :P
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Postby Fried Gold on Wed May 31, 2006 8:51 am

As long as it's not called "Die Hard: Evolution" or "Die Hard: Apocalypse" or one of those crappy generic titles that every sequel is given.
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Postby The Vicar on Wed May 31, 2006 9:16 am

colonel_lugz wrote:
RogueScribner wrote:There was no need for sequels to Die Hard, but at least the third one tried something new and was fun overall. Do we really need a #4?


I personally dont think so, but we're gonna get it anyway. So i'm gonna be as supportive as I can in the hope it will be good


I go with that, but the choice of director doesn't exactly thrill me.
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Postby papalazeru on Wed May 31, 2006 9:39 am

Fried Gold wrote:As long as it's not called "Die Hard: Evolution" or "Die Hard: Apocalypse" or one of those crappy generic titles that every sequel is given.


How about

Die hard: The Evolution of Apocalypse
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Postby The Vicar on Wed May 31, 2006 9:43 am

papalazeru wrote:
Fried Gold wrote:As long as it's not called "Die Hard: Evolution" or "Die Hard: Apocalypse" or one of those crappy generic titles that every sequel is given.


How about

Die hard: The Evolution of Apocalypse


That's a lot of big words in one title.
Wanna scare the dupes away?

Die Hard: Play Dead.

Now that's a title even the densest of audiences can understand! :wink:
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Postby magicmonkey on Wed May 31, 2006 9:48 am

I'm waiting for "Die Hard v's Lethal Weapon : We're getting too old for this shit."
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Postby Logan5 on Wed May 31, 2006 9:54 am

Doc Holliday wrote:POSSIBLE SPOILER (look away look away)













not so long ago, I read on the AICN main board a report that said Willis would only agree to do a 4th if Mclane dies at the end. If he stands by this then the fourth one has the potential to be the best of the bunch....and I mean that for all the right reasons, not in a "Kill him I think he's shit" kinda way....



They should kill him off in the beginning of the movie.




Then end it.





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Postby Logan5 on Wed May 31, 2006 10:00 am

magicmonkey wrote:I'm waiting for "Die Hard v's Lethal Weapon : We're getting too old for this shit."



Die Hard vs Loaded Weapon
Emilio beats up Willis, with Tim Curry reprising his role as a "wilderness girl".

Oh and bring back Shatner.
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Postby The Vicar on Wed May 31, 2006 10:34 am

magicmonkey wrote:I'm waiting for "Die Hard v's Lethal Weapon : We're getting too old for this shit."


Not the craziest idea I've heard.
Die Hard & Lethal Weapon?
Shit, in the right hands this could be all kinds of fun.
Someone out there get busy on this film!!

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Postby brabs on Wed May 31, 2006 10:36 am

Die Hard 4: Yippee-ki-ay Returns!

No but seriously, Die Hard 4 will be proper sweet. The first one is part of the Holy Trinity of 80's action films (with Robocop and Aliens), the other two weren't half bad films either.

Cant't wait.
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Postby Logan5 on Wed May 31, 2006 10:42 am

brabs wrote:Die Hard 4: Yippee-ki-ay Returns!

No but seriously, Die Hard 4 will be proper sweet. The first one is part of the Holy Trinity of 80's action films (with Robocop and Aliens), the other two weren't half bad films either.

Cant't wait.



OMG someone should do Robocop vs Aliens
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Postby The Vicar on Wed May 31, 2006 10:46 am

They messed up Aliens VS Predators.
I'm confident they'd mess up this ( Robocop vs Aliens).
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Postby magicmonkey on Wed May 31, 2006 10:54 am

The Vicar wrote:
magicmonkey wrote:I'm waiting for "Die Hard v's Lethal Weapon : We're getting too old for this shit."


Not the craziest idea I've heard.
Die Hard & Lethal Weapon?
Shit, in the right hands this could be all kinds of fun.
Someone out there get busy on this film!!

Magicmonkey, you a genius!


My thanks Vicar. I can see it now, Mclaine is a one man show, deep in shit somewhere causing who knows what kind of trouble trying to foil international criminals he's stumbled across. His literally explosive antics incur investigation by none other than Riggs and Murtaugh. But, who's the terrorist amongst all this carnage? You see, they are on the same side but pitted against each other. And, get this, they never meet, except in a brief encounter at the start of the tale where they all buy their Christmas t.v guide from the same shop. Now if only I could fit Keanu into all this...

Hmmm...

"Speed. Lethal Weapon? Die Hard!" Hmmm, sounds like a sex comedy...
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Postby Logan5 on Wed May 31, 2006 10:54 am

Logan5 wrote:
brabs wrote:Die Hard 4: Yippee-ki-ay Returns!

No but seriously, Die Hard 4 will be proper sweet. The first one is part of the Holy Trinity of 80's action films (with Robocop and Aliens), the other two weren't half bad films either.

Cant't wait.



OMG someone should do Robocop vs Aliens


That was a joke, just in case someone (read: kid on an escelator) didn't understand.
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Postby magicmonkey on Wed May 31, 2006 10:56 am

Logan5 wrote:
Logan5 wrote:
brabs wrote:Die Hard 4: Yippee-ki-ay Returns!

No but seriously, Die Hard 4 will be proper sweet. The first one is part of the Holy Trinity of 80's action films (with Robocop and Aliens), the other two weren't half bad films either.

Cant't wait.



OMG someone should do Robocop vs Aliens


That was a joke, just in case someone (read: kid on an escelator) didn't understand.
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I'd buy that for a dollar.
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Postby The Vicar on Wed May 31, 2006 10:59 am

magicmonkey wrote: My thanks Vicar. I can see it now, Mclaine is a one man show, deep in shit somewhere causing who knows what kind of trouble trying to foil international criminals he's stumbled across. His literally explosive antics incur investigation by none other than Riggs and Murtaugh. But, who's the terrorist amongst all this carnage? You see, they are on the same side but pitted against each other. And, get this, they never meet, except in a brief encounter at the start of the tale where they all buy their Christmas t.v guide from the same shop. Now if only I could fit Keanu into all this...

Hmmm...

"Speed. Lethal Weapon? Die Hard!" Hmmm, sounds like a sex comedy...


Screw the sex comedy - I think folding Die Hard into Lethal Weapon could be a monster. Seriously. Talk about some voltage up the ass for two franchises.... McClane, Riggs & Murtaugh in the same flick?
Hell yes I'd pay to see that!
And I'd be willing to bet a butt load of other people would too!
This is better than Alien vs Predator ( well ,at least the version they gave us)....
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Postby havocSchultz on Wed May 31, 2006 11:00 am

Die Hard and the Geriatric BodySnatchers...

































oh no wait - that was Indiana Jones... sorry... my mistake...
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Postby magicmonkey on Wed May 31, 2006 11:13 am

The Vicar wrote:
magicmonkey wrote: My thanks Vicar. I can see it now, Mclaine is a one man show, deep in shit somewhere causing who knows what kind of trouble trying to foil international criminals he's stumbled across. His literally explosive antics incur investigation by none other than Riggs and Murtaugh. But, who's the terrorist amongst all this carnage? You see, they are on the same side but pitted against each other. And, get this, they never meet, except in a brief encounter at the start of the tale where they all buy their Christmas t.v guide from the same shop. Now if only I could fit Keanu into all this...

Hmmm...

"Speed. Lethal Weapon? Die Hard!" Hmmm, sounds like a sex comedy...


Screw the sex comedy - I think folding Die Hard into Lethal Weapon could be a monster. Seriously. Talk about some voltage up the ass for two franchises.... McClane, Riggs & Murtaugh in the same flick?
Hell yes I'd pay to see that!
And I'd be willing to bet a butt load of other people would too!
This is better than Alien vs Predator ( well ,at least the version they gave us)....


Gotta say, I'd even plump for a geriatric road movie with those three guys taking a road trip together and reminiscing about the good old days, replete with flashbacks. Just think of the banter Riggs and McClane would have about their differing hair styles alone. And, I'm sure "trouble would find them"(tm).
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