The Official Live Free or Review Hard Thread! (SPOILERS)

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Best. Die Hard. Evar. (even better than the 1st...)
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Worse Than the 1st - Better than the other 2...
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Better Than the 2nd - Worse than the other 2...
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Better Than the 3rd - Worse than the other 2...
6
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Worst. Die Hard. Evar. (but at least it's better than Underworld...)
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Even worse than Underworld...
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I'm waiting till Die Hard in a Living Room...(DVD, etc...)
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Fuck Die Hard (I won't be seeing this...)
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Postby Maui on Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:57 pm

A 5th Diehard?

Don't know about the rest of you, but DH1 is and will always be THE BEST in my books. Clever, witty, action-packed - a Christmas classic.

DH4 - I'll be in line to see this movie at the theatre - huge DH fan. I'm curious to see an aged cop battle internet terrorists with the MAC dude. The cast looks great as does the special effects. I can't help but wonder though -is this going to appeal to the younger audiences, who thrive on wizards, comic book heroes and hormones.
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Postby Leckomaniac on Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:56 am

Saw this little news blurb pop up:

Action star Bruce Willis surprised film fans when he went on a web-chat site to talk about his latest movie. The Hollywood tough guy posted messages on film site aintitcoolnews.com promoting new release Live Free Or Die Hard, which he reprises his role as John McClane. But when one film fan refused to believe it was his movie hero Willis entered an iChat videoconferencing conversation with him. And despite coming face to face with the star on webcam, Willis had to show his tattoos to the skeptical fan before he fully believed it was him. Willis told fans he posted on the website because he felt "a strong pull" to hear from his audience. He wrote, "I am John Maf**kin Clane. What if I came to you all just as a guy (who) merely wished to have an outlet to chat with people I seldom get to chat with. And what if I just listened?"
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Postby Peven on Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:05 pm

extended clip for opening of movie at bottom of page.

http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=14777
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Postby RogueScribner on Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:19 pm

Die Hard is the best modern action movie. Period. It may not contain the best characters, or the best action sequences, or the best musical score, or have the bets production values, or anything else you can think of, but as a total package, it rocks. No one has ever topped it, IMO.

Die Hard 2 upped the ante production-wise, but it lacked the heart and charm of the original. And it was pretty cheesy to boot.

Die Hard with a Vengeance broke the formula and was therefore more interesting than the second installment, but the third act didn't really gel so it's hard to get excited about this movie.

It's weird. I don't hold a lot of hope for Live Free or Die Hard, but I'm such a fan of the original and I really like Bruce Willis that I'm still gonna go see it. In fact, I'll probably be there opening day. I might even call up an old friend to join me. I hope this movie surprises me.
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Postby The Todd on Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:16 pm

havocSchultz wrote: Yippie kay yay...


Second Life Bruce Willis wrote:the first film which, by my judgment, is really the only good one


Way to sign on for Die Harder and Vengeance for the money, Bruce!

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Postby havocSchultz on Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:19 pm

The Todd wrote:
I LIKED DIE HARD 2:DIE HARDER-FIVE!!!!!


Me too...
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Postby havocSchultz on Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:41 pm

Because of where this film comes from - and what this series means to so many of us cool folk - the poll will be slightly different...


Main Page has a review for Live Free or Die Hard...

Which sounds more like it's a pretty cool action film - but not a Kick Ass Die Hard film...

But you never know...



I will post it below as well - but beware - there's probably some muthafuckin spoilers in there...



Tom's WrathMan wrote: It feels very much like a sequel to Die Hard With A Vengeance, only not as good, in the same way that Die Harder felt a lot like Die Hard, but not as good. It's not set in a closed environment, and while the third film could at least claim to be "Die Hard in New York", this one is just like any other action film in terms of setting - the action moves from place to place throughout the film as the plot calls for it.

Which brings us to the film's main problem... no, not the PG-13... the story. Or the script. Or the director. I'm not sure quite what's to blame here, but the story at the heart of the film is never really convincing. I can see what they've tried to do, but the chaos unleashed by the terrorists never feels real or threatening, the reality of what's going on is kept under wraps for too long and the whole thing gets a little confused. We skip back and forth between the barking-command-center-types and McClane and it never really flows. Action happens, story happens, it keeps you amused, but you never really get the big picture... there were too many questions, for me, about who was involved in what and why, some of which get answered, some of which are brushed over. And while both Die Hard and DHWAV had extended setups and then a reveal of what was really at stake, the set up was fun to watch... power lines being sawn through, hostages taken, bank vaults raided, the works. In LFODH, it's more a case of Timothy Olyphant saying "engage stage one" or "prepare the video package", and it's a little less thrilling. I'm still not sure what the point of the huge building demolition they show in the trailer is either - what purpose it serves is beyond me, other than to tie in with the title. I can see how it works thematically, but the film never really sells it that well. Plotting wise, it's more like the last half hour of DHWAV than the earlier sections, and that's not a compliment.

So, on to the action, and that's actually pretty good in places. Yeah, it's PG-13, but they push it reasonably hard. There are a few bullet holes and squibs, and quite a lot of people falling or being flung to their deaths, and at least they show the impact, so it doesn't feel like they're holding back that much, unless you compare it to the previous films. It's certainly more violent than the Mission Impossible films, but nowhere close to the previous Die Hards. Most of the sequences are pretty good - the cars in the tunnel is probably the best, and the flipping car from the trailer really worked for me. The early shoot-out and chase are fun, too, but the fighter jet/big rig finale is a bit silly. The film suddenly becomes True Lies, but it's a step too far in a series that, at least initially, had pretty believable action. There are crazy moments in DHWAV, but this sequence is crazier, and with far more CGI. Bruce sells it well, but there's too much suspension of disbelief required for my liking. It also doesn't make sense - the plane wouldn't fire on the truck in that situation - and there are a few other moments earlier on that don't quite make sense (how did he get the car in there? why didn't he brake earlier? why bother with a bomb attached to a computer when you could just shoot the guy?) which is a shame.

As for the language? First up, he doesn't say "Yippee Kay Ay Mother Fucker". He says "Yippee Kay Ay Mother Fu-GUNSHOT". It didn't outrage me as much as I thought it would have. It's a good moment in the film, and you can almost kid yourself that he says it... you get the point... but it's still a cheat. The rest of the dialogue is littered with "shit" and, in most places, is quite funny. There are some good McClane moments over the phone, taunting Olyphant, and they work. This is still McClane, just without his F-bombs, although there's one moment of mercy near the end which goes rather against his "let them cook" philosophy we saw in DHWAV.

After the news of PG-13 had settled with me, I was actually starting to look forward to this. In the end, I was a bit underwhelmed, but had a good time. It doesn't flow that well, computers aren't exciting, Olyphant's character is not a patch on a Gruber, but the action's entertaining and, in the absence of any real, balls-out R-rated action films, it's nice to see something that at least does a decent impression of what action movies were like in the mid-90s and before. It's just a shame that it's a Die Hard film that's falling short of the mark, and not Hostage 2 or or 17 Blocks. I'm glad I saw it, but I'm not bothered about seeing it again, except...

The one reason I will see it again is to see the Unrated version. Whether they shot any more violent footage is one matter, but I'm 100% certain that the language they filmed has been trimmed. There's one scene in particular where Justin Long can be seen in the background and his voice is WAY out of sync with what he's saying, and a few other bits that sounded a little like they'd had a word cut out.

There's more to see here, I'm sure of it, but it won't save the film. It's a three star film for me.




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Postby Nordling on Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:52 pm

They lost me at (GUNSHOT)
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Postby godzillasushi on Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:50 pm

Yea im thinking it's still going to be a great action movie even with the PG-13 wussification. I mean, how many decent action flicks do we get a year? Last year, all I remember was M-I:3, Casino Royale, and Miami Vice. Crank was alright.

Even if a Die Hard isn't up to Die Hard's standards, it still beats the lame 'action' scenes in Smokin Aces.

Im pretty sure im going to be watching Transformers and Die Hard in the same day....I shall call it boom-day.





And don't forget, the extended version of the movie that comes out someday should make the movie worthwhile. Im betting the way Mr. WalterB talked about it, they probably filmed a lot of Die Hard type things that were cut.
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Postby Chilli on Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:31 pm

They almost lost me at the shitty title, but I will see it anyway.
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Postby Ribbons on Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:22 pm

Chilli wrote:They almost lost me at the shitty title, but I will see it anyway.


Is is Live Free or Die Hard in the UK as well? I thought they'd changed the title to Die Hard 4.0.
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Postby TonyWilson on Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:28 pm

It's Die Hard 4.0 in the UK, Ribbons and I think that's what Chili is referring to. I quite like Live Free Or Die Hard as a title.
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Postby Ribbons on Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:32 pm

D'oh! My mistake.
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Postby Chilli on Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:53 pm

I like Die Hard 4.0 better than Live Free Or Die Hard.
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Postby buster00 on Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:20 pm

I'm kind of over the whole "point-oh" thing. It's not clever anymore.
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Postby Ribbons on Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:24 pm

buster00 wrote:"point-oh"


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Postby Adam Balm on Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:27 pm

buster00 wrote:I'm kind of over the whole "point-oh" thing. It's not clever anymore.


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Postby buster00 on Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:29 pm

Well, that's the thing, innit? How many decimal places are we supposed to carry out?

Why not Die Hard 3.1?

Zone 1.1?

When are we supposed to round up to the next whole number?
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Postby Nachokoolaid on Fri Jun 22, 2007 6:01 pm

http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/06/21/video-kevin-smith-interviews-bruce-willis-about-die-hard-4/

An awesome video with Willis and Kevin Smith. Personally, I can't wait to see Die Hard 5: Die Toothless. LOL.
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Postby Flumm on Sun Jun 24, 2007 10:29 pm

Another appetiser....

John McDoe wrote:


Just got back from an advance showing of Die Hard 4.0 in Yokohama which retains the original working title on this side of the pond. Having seen Die Hard on DVD a few weeks back and still being blown away by its superiority amongst modern offerings of the action hero genre which I think many would agree the film helped cement, I went into the theater with high expectations having seen the trailers which rocked my soul. Many of these expectations were initially met, and exceeded, only to be left dangling at a little more than halfway through the experience.

As this is an action film, I suppose said scenes should be addressed first and foremost. Somewhere between McClane shooting fire exntinguishers, dodging cars in a blacked out tunnel and one of the most creative elevator shaft scenes I've seen since...well....Die Hard, you'll realize you got your 9 dollars worth. Unfortunately for me, I live in Japan and the movie was just barely over halfway over by that point which meant I still had 9 dollars (yep, $18 a ticket here) unaccounted for which I won't be seeing again.

I think when you see the film, you'll want to like it because of how fantastic and simple the initial action pieces are. Despite the multi-State scale of the film (something that seems to have been increasing exponentially with each installment) the initial action pieces are dealt with in relatively small and contained area(s). This creates a fantastic sense of claustrophobia that we can share with McClane and sweat bullets right alongside him. Unfortunately by the end of the film we see McClane charging down a collapsing underpass 'fighting' a jet while dodging rockets and yes, jumping onto said jet. Notice 'underpass' and 'jet' used in the same sentence.

It's absoutely absurd.

But looking beyond that, it's really damn cool and isn't that what you wanted to see? You went to see a movie about a one man army and one way or another, that's what you get. It is indeed FAR too over the top but if this were any other film series I'm sure we'd all be enjoying it. Such grandiose logic-suspending stunts just don't feel right in the Die Hard universe where we once had a shoeless, sockless hero that took time to grunt at centerfolds between shooting Germans the size of a small shed. In that aspect the film fails to live up to its predecessors by delivering a proposterous second half. But I'm sure the first half will have you on the edge of your seat and laughing with McClane as he takes out that helicopter.

As far as the script is concerned, everything seems just right on the 'good guy' side. Willis reprises his role with JUST the right zest. He doesn't play the 'down on his luck former hero' card that would have been remarkably easy. He accepts his current situation(s) as you'd expect a considerably aged John McClane to, with a chip on his shoulder and a sense of humor that only needs a few pumps of the primer to get running again smoothly. The various suits in the film deliver line reading which I think everyone expects from them, but its a shame there's no 'Dwayne' of the film to serve as an interesting or useful sidekick in the background. That doesn't mean there aren't characters intended to fill that role, including the cameo of NJ's famous director, they just don't do it as well which is less their own fault and more of a lack of useful things to do in the background. As for the sidekick who is by McClane's side throughout the film, Matt is actually an interesting nerd. They spend some time on the whole, 'wow, you're a creative/amazing action hero and I only use computers' scenario for a few laughs but luckily they don't beat it into the ground and managed to pace the 'changes' the character goes through quite well. You can read what the character will do and how he well progress like a book but I actually enjoyed his presence.

The villains here are lacking. The biggest problem is with motivation, while it always seems that Die Hard's have a 'reveal' to show the real scheme, the reveal here is basically throwing away Plan A for a Plan B that's really Plan A with a different name. I had to chuckle to myself thinking who thought it would be an interesting scenario because it fails miserably which is a shame. Regarding the villains themselves, McClane manages to take out the one physically threatening and fully developed villain right around the halfway point. What's left behind for him to inevitably whittle away at is remarkably unthreatening except for perhaps one severley underused and athletic actor whose spryness is something of Bond Villain proportions. The main villain although one cold SOB is unfortunately as harmless as a gnat and has a finish which gets points for creativity but is nowhere near as satsifying as previous installments' finishers.

And the story/progression? Well, you just know a story is in trouble when it includes internet and technology beyond more than a research tool. It starts believable and very rapidly escalates to a level of INSANITY that only people who don't know what a Google is could swallow. Our antagonist can instantly access and activate your webcam from his secret base while simulatneously broadcasting to you from his own location without activating futzing with drivers or things like software, and yet he cannot utilize
video cameras to secure his own base of operations. Die Hard 2's manipulation of a single airport was pushing the limits of believability even considering it was waaaaaaay before how things are today. But the bastardization of what's possible with technology at the expense of creating a story is sad here. It detracts from the enjoyment of the film which is awful.

Lastly, the film isn't the same without creative insults, usually including slang for male or female genetalia, and of course the F bomb. I wouldn't bother mentioning this but for the fact that I went into the film unaware of the PG-13 rating and the drama the ensued overseas. I only found out about it after I got home and did a little reading on the film. It's very strange watching a nearly PC McClane control his language AND, if you can believe it, save one of the badguys who is unarmed. Not cool.

All of that said, the first half of this movie WILL rock you and the final big sequence will thrill you in a certain way, but it feels far too updated and thus unbalanced. It hasn't completely lost the feel thanks to the strong start, but the end simply deteriorates into the spastic and unfocused 'blow up as much shit as possible aimlessly' trend that is a dime a dozen today. If this was designed as such to be a transition of sorts for the series, part familiar and part 'WTFOMG!!11' then I can't imagine going to see a fifth.

Thanks for your time! Hope this was helpful. I apologize for any spelling errors and grammatical misses. I'm sending it without proofing which begs punishment but I'm also very tired and I'm Greg W from Japan






...I think at this point, especially after just reading a Vern article, (less than manly ::teh sigh::), I'm probably more entertained/curious as to the various responses, reviews and AICN-based odds and ends that have come along with the movie, and are due around the corner, than the actual film itself...
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Postby Cpt Kirks 2pay on Sun Jun 24, 2007 10:39 pm

Well from what this guy just described, Flumm, it sounds like a helluva explosive movie. That ending that he described and wasn't fond of, sounds bloody brilliant to me, man!! A fighter jet crashing and exploding!!!??? Yeah man, I'm well there! It's what I wanna see the most.

But all these reviews are finding too much stuff to be criticising and not enought stuff to be enthusiastic about, which doesn't spell good things for this picture by the sounds of it. I'll find out when I see it, but I'm not getting a lot of faith for this film here.
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Postby DennisMM on Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:07 pm

This may sound ridiculous, but I think Die Hard movies need to be small. I know, the first had three floors of an office building exploding, a dozen villain's lackeys, jumping off the top of the building with a fire hose, all that. Compared to the other three, through, that was intimate, more along the lines of Lethal Weapon. Those two are, for me, the superlatives among urban action movies and in spite of some big stunts in the end they are both about a limited number of locations and one or two good guys who can fight well with guns and fists. John McClane fighting a fighter plane? That's True Lies, not Die Hard.
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Postby Peven on Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:13 pm

DennisMM wrote:This may sounds ridiculous, but I think Die Hard movies need to be small. I know, the first had three floors of an office building exploding, a dozen villain's lackeys, jumping off the top of the building with a fire hose, all that. Compared to the other three, through, that was intimate, more along the lines of Lethal Weapon. Those two are, for me, the superlatives among urban action movies and in spite of some big stunts in the end they are both about a limited number of locations and one or two good guys who can fight well with guns and fists. John McClane fighting a fighter plane? That's True Lies, not Die Hard.



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Postby DennisMM on Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:30 pm

I'm going to watch Die Hard now. Tomorrow, maybe Lethal Weapon.
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Postby Cpt Kirks 2pay on Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:19 am

I don't mind Die Hard widening it's scale so much, as long as it is done in a certain style that Die Hard has been about in the beginning. That it actually USES it's environments as part of the story rather than just a background. That stops it from becoming like Lethal Weapon you know?

The first half od DH3 did this successfully but just fell out all over the place towards the end. DH4 seems to be using the settings that it comes across in this technical way also, but heh, I can't comment too much on it until I see it. I hope it keeps that Die Hard flavour to it's physical battleground.
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Postby godzillasushi on Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:45 am

Well, it's certainly off to a good start!

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/live_free_or_die_hard/

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UHHH TOTALLY AWESOME!

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Postby havocSchultz on Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:13 am

If this movie is awesome I'm gonna dance a fuckin' jig...
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Postby MonkeyM666 on Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:21 am

That dodge 10 minutes that was on the main site last night didn't look that good but I am hoping like hell that it's cock rocking good...
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Postby havocSchultz on Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:23 am

Cock-kickingly good...?
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Postby MonkeyM666 on Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:24 am

So you read my hooker story then...
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Postby havocSchultz on Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:24 am

I was the hooker...
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Postby MonkeyM666 on Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:25 am

I thought that those bewbs looks fimilar.... and the whip.... and the wang :shock:
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Postby godzillasushi on Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:26 am

MonkeyM666 wrote:I thought that those bewbs looks fimilar.... and the whip.... and the wang :shock:


That was no wang, that was Mr. Wang!
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Postby MonkeyM666 on Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:31 am

Ok, I enough of this... I don't want to think about 'dying hard' with Havoc anymore, it feels creepy.
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Postby Cpt Kirks 2pay on Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:30 pm

Well it's 86% at the moment, but the review quotes alone seem to be very solid and positive in saying that this is a great film and it looks confident that the rest of the reviews to pile in will be in general agreement. You know, the reviews so far don't seem to be calling it an OK film or something that just about works. There's a sense that they nearly all feel it to be a strong film, they all voice it reliably so that this trend will continue with other viewers there. They're also from USA Papers or Variety too.

Not that all of this means that WE will like it though, not saying that I hope ya all understand.
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Postby havocSchultz on Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:49 pm

Are you trying to tell me that I'm gonna like this?!?!!?!?!?



Because if so...
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Postby BuckyO'harre on Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:32 am

Quint's bubble is burst...

Quint wrote:Ahoy, squirts! Quint here.

You know, when I sat down to watch DIE HARD 4 tonight I expected a fun movie that had little to no similarity to the series I love. And I do love the DIE HARD series. I have always been baffled by the hatred for DIE HARD WITH A VENGEANCE. DIE HARD 2 is goofy, no doubt. But it’s still a DIE HARD movie.

So, I expected to see a movie that wasn’t really a DIE HARD movie, with a cleaner McClane (a Mr. Clean-er McClane if you’ll allow me a rather obvious and ill-executed bald joke), but that was big and fun in its own way.

What I got was a movie that didn’t resemble DIE HARD, but was a horrible action movie on top of all that.

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Postby Adam Balm on Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:39 am

That seems to be mirroring Devin Faraci's reaction:

Now, two decades and two sequels later, John McClane has become just another superhuman action star, engaged in stunts and feats that stretch incredulity, demolish disbelief and betray the basic concept of the series. In previous installments we’ve seen a John McClane who had real personal issues and problems; in Live Free or Die Hard John McClane’s biggest character flaw is that he’s too protective of his now-grown up daughter. The man who once tied a fire hose around his waist and made a terrifying jump off a roof and barely believes he survived leaps forty feet off the wing of a crashing Harrier jet, lands hard on an upended piece of an expressway and slides down it as the fireball of the exploding jet chases him. This John McClane gets up, dusts himself off and immediately sees the bad guys he lost fifteen minutes earlier. This isn’t isn’t Die Hard 4, it’s Bald Terminator 4.


http://www.chud.com/index.php?type=reviews&id=10860
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Postby tapehead on Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:59 am

I'm starting to think that based on what I'm reading from Quint, it might be a good idea to wait for the adult-rated DVD.
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Postby jason.cinema on Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:01 am

Blood to be digitally added to the DVD version of Live Free Or Die Hard (which 20th Century Fox will no doubt tout as being "UNRATED").

http://tinyurl.com/2jwt7h

FDM has learned that FOX has already commissioned visual effects house Digital Dimension (who also worked on the film for theatrical release) to digitally add blood into the bloodless action scenes we (or at least, I) will see in theaters when the movie is released on June 27th. Whether the profanity (test screenings have pointed out some obvious dubbing in a few scenes) will be restored remains unknown, but rest assured, those of you who like their Die Hard movies to be bloody (you know, like the first three, the ones we loved so much to want a fourth one in the first place?) might want to wait for DVD.
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Postby tapehead on Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:08 am

After the atrocious 'digital blood' effects work I've seen in films like 'Blade Trinity', that doesn't actually fill me with joy to read...

I'm not concerned about outlandish stunts - each instalment of the Die Hard series has them if you consider it - it's the foul mouth wisecracking and mortal violence that I'll miss.
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Postby Cpt Kirks 2pay on Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:54 am

Oooh don't be too disheartened by just Quint's reaction, Tapes. There's plenty of other reviewers, geeky or not who liked it over at Rotten Tomatoes right now and said that the lack of blood or language isn't a bad thing and that you don't notice or mind it at all.

Er, even if the film IS down to 75% over there. Make it go up!!! MAKE IT GO UUUUPP!!!!!!!!!!!

As for quoting Chud, AB. They seem to hate everything don't they? How could you? How coouuld yoouuu!!!!!?!???

Personally, I don't mind things getting bigger or trying to be badder, if it does have that Die Hard flavour and spin onto things. I need something a bit more special than another similar scenario to the first 2. If we got this, I think we'd still be criticising the movie for this and saying stuff like 'oh we want something a bit more different, it's 4 movies in now'. Here things feel like they're bigger but still set in enclosed spaces, lift shafts, tunnels, etc so it's a novel spin, bigger but still small at the same time. I don't mind the OTT stuff too much by the sounds or looks of it. That Harrier fight looks like a proper 'bring it on' scene.

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I just don't get why no one has mention the Whitehouse blowing up yet that we saw in the Trailer?


As for blood and swearing? I always thought that it was one thing that was OTT for me a little bit and not in a good way before. It did go into crude excess at times, I'm welcome for less of that. But if it is too little and PC restrained in this film - and you can notice it trying to be covered up, especially the Yippee Kayay MotherBANG! line then I don't wanna cop out and conform to this shit just so I can like it.

I feel Bruce being a bit hypocritical or just being beaten by the suits on this, as not only is it something that McClane might be able to beat, but I get the feeling especially from the internet interviews like AICN, that there's an anti PC and McClanish character to Bruce himself. But that looks like it's being squashed somewhat here.

Oh well, no point in talking too much about all of this is there guys? We can't judge or assume too much about this film from what we're reading/seeing right now until we've experienced the ONLY review that matters for this film - ours.
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Postby MonkeyM666 on Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:05 am

Inserting. Adding the blood infor teh DVD is a strange thing to do IMO. It's cool in a way because the medium has changed so much in the last 8 years that they’re able to add they’re own special features to a film that they couldn’t in a cinematic release due to the censors. Then I think, well Die Hard isn’t about the blood, it’s about the action and I wonder how much they’ll be putting in to warrant a press release about it. It would have to be a hell of a lot because they wouldn’t waste everyone’s time announcing it if they’re only marginal changes.

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Postby Pacino86845 on Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:08 am

I heard the blood in the PG-13 version is grey-colored...
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Postby Cpt Kirks 2pay on Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:23 am

Where to put this link, where to put this link? Thanks a lot Havoc, for creating a second Die Hard thread when all we needed to do was change the title of the other Official Die Hard original thread man!!!

This I actually think belongs there, but seeing as the Review thread is gonna be the more used one now, I guess I beter put this link in here. Even though it's wrong. Heh, I'm no Fight THe Power McClane yippee kayay keemosabeBANG!! Nice one Havoc!

Where do I get all my wonderful scoops, I hear you all ask. No, I don't just steal them all from AICN who in turn steals it from all other websites, my scoops are fresh an original and all done by me. Me being the ultimate Insider as I am the ultimate bottom of the movie making barrel as the worst, most terrible, and let's face it, the most INVISIBLE Film Extra (wait for it) EVAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! in the history of movies - and I should know, even though I've not even seen all the movies in the history of the universe!!!!!

Anyway, here it is - an exclusive interview with the director, Len Wiseman.

(All highly and secretly obtained from the only 2 movie websites in my Bookmarks list, Dark Horizons and Coming Soon, both stashed away in the bottom of the list, buried under all my other porn links there. - Want those too?

Incidentally, Coming Soon also really really liked this film too? Does THAT make you lot wanna see the film now? Screw Quint!
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Postby tapehead on Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:36 am

Yeah Screw Quint! what does he know? he thought Rocky 6 was great...
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Postby Nordling on Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:41 am

There will be better movies opening this weekend. DIE LIMP will wait, until I decide if the movie is worthy enough to be even glanced at in passing on a TV monitor in Best Buy on my way to the bathroom because I ate one too many tacos at Taco Bell, and as I sit on my throne of turd I will contemplate, briefly, about said movie until my mind wanders to the subject of what blank CD brand should I buy.
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