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Bale + Herzog + Vietnam POW = Rescue Dawn (Spoilers)

Postby John-Locke on Mon Dec 19, 2005 12:21 am

Rescue Dawn

This just went up on the main site, thought you guys might want a look.

I wonder when they shot this, I hope this has just taken a while to edit or something or Bale needs to be careful about taking his art too far.
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Postby Cpt Kirks 2pay on Mon Dec 19, 2005 12:25 am

Gonna watch it now dude. Thanks JL!!!

I thought this had just started filming or something, this was announced earlier this year. I thought Harsh Times was the next bale film to come out, but there's no trailer for it yet. It blimmin' comes out in 2 weeks, 1st of Jan.

What you doin' up anyway buddy?!
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Postby Cpt Kirks 2pay on Mon Dec 19, 2005 12:41 am

Just watched it. Looks great. Looks like a quickly edited early teaser trailer. I think there's more to this story than a basic escape plot. Apprently Bale's character was a German who moved to USA then enlisted as a pilot as it was something he always dreamed about.

So there's more scenes of the eraly apart of the story not being shown unless it is all backstory to the film.

Bale's gone and done the weight loss thing all again! Fucking e'll, good on ya mate! This guy never seems to let us down when it comes to dedication and intensity.

I've said it before and I'll say it again - I WANNA BE CHRISTIAN BALE!

This film should be real scary and edge of seat suspense by the looks of this. But then again, it seems that we already know the outcome, so maybe the nervousness I'm expecting to experience with this film might be diluted somewhat.

Wanna see anyway.
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Postby smatterkitty on Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:05 pm

I don't think this will necessarily be a "suspense" movie considering, as was said, we already know the outcome.

I just have a feeling it'll end up being more about the human toll of war than anything else.

Ever since "American Psycho" i could never say a bad word about Christian Bale.
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Postby dark wesley on Fri Dec 23, 2005 7:47 am

youre right, bales amazing but was this made when he was as thin as the machinist or after he beefed up for batman?, cause this wieght loss thing is like chandler from friends. i mean if this was after batman and he went skinny again, thats intense.
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Postby Gheorghe Zamfir on Fri Dec 23, 2005 7:58 am

Yea this was filmed in August of this year in Thailand, after Batman. And this is apparently based on the same subject of Herzog's 1997 documentary, Little Dieter Needs to Fly, though maybe everyone already knew that and I'm stating the obvious.
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Postby havocSchultz on Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:10 pm

and here i thought someone was making thenew olsen twins movie...

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Postby CthulhuKid on Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:43 pm

Looks like we found a new Joker contender...
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Postby so sorry on Fri Jan 06, 2006 6:02 pm

I'm not sure which made me sicker to my stomach, the way Bale looked or that fucking Mewes/Hilton movie.
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Postby Gheorghe Zamfir on Fri Jan 06, 2006 6:12 pm

CthulhuKid wrote:Looks like we found a new Joker contender...


Now that'd be an acting job, Bale loses a ton of weight, films the Joker role, gains it back, and then films the Batman role!
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Postby CthulhuKid on Fri Jan 06, 2006 6:21 pm

That would be cool!

I meant the Olson freak. :-)
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Postby bluebottle on Fri Jan 06, 2006 6:37 pm

HHQHQHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

That Bottom's Up trailer is awesome!
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Postby Cpt Kirks 2pay on Thu Jan 04, 2007 4:58 am

Does anyone out there at all, know when the bloody hell this movie is gonna finally come out?! This was shot about 2 years ago and has been sitting on the shelf for over a year! This was supposed to come out in early '06 I think. Man, Bale must be sitting there really pissed off about this. This and Harsh Times are sverely delayed released films of his.
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Postby colonel_lugz on Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:30 am

Wow!

Only just saw the trailer.....reeeaaaally like the look of it.

This is my cup of tea indeed
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Postby Pillman on Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:36 am

well... do we really need another Vietnam movie? Does anyone WANT another Vietnam movie? I might see it just for Bale, since hes such a great actor and interesting to watch, but, meh.
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Postby colonel_lugz on Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:39 am

No, we probably don't need one, but I bloody want one
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Postby magicmonkey on Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:40 am

They are worth watching when Werner Herzog is the guy to direct them.
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Postby Fried Gold on Sat Jan 27, 2007 5:52 pm

Seems Rescue Dawn might only be getting a limited release now.
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Postby Pacino86845 on Sat Jan 27, 2007 6:43 pm

Fried Gold wrote:Seems Rescue Dawn might only be getting a limited release now.


:shock:

How does that make sense!? Looks amazing, judging by the trailer.
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Postby Fried Gold on Sat Jan 27, 2007 6:56 pm

Doesn't make sense. It was supposed to be released last year, then it got pushed back to 2007.
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Postby tapehead on Sat Jan 27, 2007 7:00 pm

Maybe it really sucks.
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Postby Pacino86845 on Sat Jan 27, 2007 7:06 pm

Maybe the distributors just couldn't handle how awesome the film is.
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Postby Fried Gold on Sat Jan 27, 2007 7:07 pm

Might have something to do with when The Prestige came out in the US.
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Postby tapehead on Sat Jan 27, 2007 7:08 pm

Pacino86845 wrote:Maybe the distributors just couldn't handle how awesome the film is.


It's notoriously hard to market the really awesome films too
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Postby instant_karma on Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:10 am

Spoke to a friend earlier who saw this at the Rotterdam film festival and he said it was amazing.

I wonder who'll get the first CHRISTIAN BALE GOTTA EAT header when this goes on release...
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Postby Pacino86845 on Tue Jun 26, 2007 4:15 pm

Capone interviews Steve Zahn. They discuss Herzog and Rescue Dawn. Some new Herzog anecdotes in there, a pretty good read.
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Postby Cpt Kirks 2pay on Tue Jun 26, 2007 4:27 pm

Thanks for bring this up again, Pacino. I was gonna post what I found on this film a week or so ago, but I was on Zone Strike then, so I denied you lot.

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Postby HollywoodBabylon on Wed Jun 27, 2007 7:05 am

Hopefully, it'll come round my way or else it's a wait for the DVD release. Either way, I'll be watching it - any new movie by Herzog is a major film event in my book and from the trailer this looks like no exception.
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Postby so sorry on Wed Jun 27, 2007 7:56 am

Any movie with Bale in it is worth a viewing... this will be tops on my list of DVD rental/purchases when it comes out.
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Postby Pacino86845 on Wed Jun 27, 2007 7:57 am

so sorry wrote:Any movie with Bale in it is worth a viewing... this will be tops on my list of DVD rental/purchases when it comes out.


Although I was already a fan of Herzog, I've been thinking the same thing about Bale in recent years. The man can do no wrong!!
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Postby Cpt Kirks 2pay on Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:06 am

Let's hope he doesn't! I no little of Herzog myself, only Flumm's legendary Bear movie. Also people are urging us to see the documentary that Rescue Dawn is based on, 'Someone someone learns to fly' or something. Sorry can't be arsed to IMDB it. Crappy server. They say that no matter how fantastic Rescue Dawn is, the doc is even better.

I'm a bit peed off though that this film is getting such little attention. It's coming out this or next week, isn't it? Hardly any talk of it here too. It's one of my most anticipated films of the year - if only I knew that it was!
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Postby so sorry on Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:13 am

I have no idea who Werner Herzog is (I thought he was Catpain Klink! :oops: ), so he has nothing to do with wether or nt I see this movie.

I have a minor man-crush on Bale, and the subject matter is appealing to me.

Kirk, it looks like it opens next weekend over here in the States, which is a disaster for a tiny movie, when confronted with the behemoth movie(s) that normally come out that weekend.

And I have seen NOTHING about this movie outside of this place...
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Postby Evil Hobbit on Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:39 am

I saw this months ago on the Rotterdam Film Festival. It's a good film, nothing more, nothing less. FANTASTIC opening scene!!! Just go see it, it's great. The rest of the film is good as well but basicly because of Bale's performance. Definately one to be seen on the screen. I wouldn't buy it though.
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Postby HollywoodBabylon on Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:15 am

so sorry wrote:I have no idea who Werner Herzog is



Only among the top five living film directors and alongside Jodorowsky and Lynch the most iconoclastic one alive. A truly bold and maverick filmmaker, one of the last of his kind, alas.
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Postby so sorry on Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:22 am

HollywoodBabylon wrote:
so sorry wrote:I have no idea who Werner Herzog is



Only among the top five living film directors and alongside Jodorowsky and Lynch the most iconoclastic one alive. A truly bold and maverick filmmaker, one of the last of his kind, alas.


Jodo-who-now? :oops:

I just looked at Herzog's imdb page and I don't recognize a single film...

If you were to reccomend one of his films, which would it be and why?
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Postby HollywoodBabylon on Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:33 am

so sorry wrote:
HollywoodBabylon wrote:
so sorry wrote:I have no idea who Werner Herzog is



Only among the top five living film directors and alongside Jodorowsky and Lynch the most iconoclastic one alive. A truly bold and maverick filmmaker, one of the last of his kind, alas.


Jodo-who-now? :oops:

I just looked at Herzog's imdb page and I don't recognize a single film...

If you were to reccomend one of his films, which would it be and why?


That's a hard, hard one. Probably Aguirre, Wrath Of God - set in the 16th century and about a group of Spanish conquistador's searching for El Dorado through the jungles of Peru. Full of extraordinary images, music, storytelling and with a performance to die for by Klaus Kinski, it's a work of wayward genius as well as being probably the most accessible Herzog movie to date. That was my starting point to Herzog's films and I haven't looked back since. Make that journey as soon as you can, So Sorry!
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Postby Cpt Kirks 2pay on Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:37 am

Thanks guys. His movies are gonna go onto my Ilovefilm list asap. Apart from Grizzly Man. Already seen it. Astonishing stuff.

Anyway, who else here has seen Werner Herzog's Grizzly Man?
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Postby John-Locke on Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:37 am

Aguirre Wrath of God, it's stars the Batshit Crazy Klaus Kinski as a Spanish Conquistador looking for the Lost City of Gold in the Amazon. Shot entirely on location, watch as man attempts to defeat Mother Nature.

If you like that then watch the arguably better Fitzcarraldo, again with Kinski, again set in the Amazon, this time about an Opera obsessed man who plans on accessing a whole river by moving a steamboat over a hill in a money making venture.
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Postby unikrunk on Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:51 am

Just watched the trailer...wow.

This looks fantastic - Herzog and Bale, like peanut-butter and chocolate.
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Postby Seppuku on Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:52 am

HollywoodBabylon wrote:
so sorry wrote:
HollywoodBabylon wrote:
so sorry wrote:I have no idea who Werner Herzog is



Only among the top five living film directors and alongside Jodorowsky and Lynch the most iconoclastic one alive. A truly bold and maverick filmmaker, one of the last of his kind, alas.


Jodo-who-now? :oops:

I just looked at Herzog's imdb page and I don't recognize a single film...

If you were to reccomend one of his films, which would it be and why?


That's a hard, hard one. Probably Aguirre, Wrath Of God - set in the 16th century and about a group of Spanish conquistador's searching for El Dorado through the jungles of Peru. Full of extraordinary images, music, storytelling and with a performance to die for by Klaus Kinski, it's a work of wayward genius as well as being probably the most accessible Herzog movie to date. That was my starting point to Herzog's films and I haven't looked back since. Make that journey as soon as you can, So Sorry!


That or the one with the dancing chicken... Who can hate a dancing chicken?

My AV's from a Herzog film, Even Dwarves Started Small, which I wouldn't recommend to anyone. If you do find yourself in the position of seeing it, then you're probably at least half likely to like it; otherwise, it's a sick little puppy (though strangely joyous) that'll probably infect anyone with whom it comes into contact.

My personal fave Herzog is probably Woyzeck (though I'm still completely unable to spell the title properly), or maybe even The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser, which is the one I'd recommend to someone starting out with Herzog, mostly because it's arguably his most narrative driven film, though it still contains some pretty beautiful shots within (a boat drifting across a mercury lake while a swan passes by in the foreground).

It's also totally a film anyone getting high will get into (just as long as they have at least a half-functional attention span), because the idea of a guy suddenly appearing in society after being locked in a basement for the first twenty years of his life is totally like some far-flung stoner fantasy. Though in this case, it's based on a true story.
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Postby havocSchultz on Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:53 am

Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:
Anyway, who else here has seen Werner Herzog's Grizzly Man?




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Postby Seppuku on Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:54 am

havocSchultz wrote:
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:
Anyway, who else here has seen Werner Herzog's Grizzly Man?




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:x :x Where's a pic of George Harrison on the Simpsons with a quote bubble saying "It's been done" when you need it?
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Postby havocSchultz on Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:56 am

seppukudkurosawa wrote:
havocSchultz wrote:
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:
Anyway, who else here has seen Werner Herzog's Grizzly Man?




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:x :x Where's a pic of George Harrison on the Simpsons with a quote bubble saying "It's been done" when you need it?


I lied...

I haven't actually seen it...
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Postby HollywoodBabylon on Sat Jun 30, 2007 12:35 pm

seppukudkurosawa wrote: The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser, which is the one I'd recommend to someone starting out with Herzog, mostly because it's arguably his most narrative driven film, though it still contains some pretty beautiful shots within (a boat drifting across a mercury lake while a swan passes by in the foreground).

It's also totally a film anyone getting high will get into (just as long as they have at least a half-functional attention span), because the idea of a guy suddenly appearing in society after being locked in a basement for the first twenty years of his life is totally like some far-flung stoner fantasy. Though in this case, it's based on a true story.


Yes, Hauser is pretty amazing, isn't it? And Bruno S in the title role is compulsive viewing. A totally off-kilter performance that I supposed tied in well with the story's strange and unsettling themes.
However, the movie that best exemplifies the Herzog trademark for me has to be Heart Of Glass - not the easiest movie to watch, to be sure, but baffling and beautiful all the same. And, yes, that movie urban myth is actually true: it's the only film ever whose cast were actually performing under hypnosis all the way through. Now THAT'S what I call method acting...........
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Postby Seppuku on Sat Jun 30, 2007 4:10 pm

You know, if I ever go on a movie location pilgrimage, the place in Switzerland where Heart of Glass' opening scene was shot will be my movie Mecca. It just looked so ravishing in a stark sort of way. I wonder if Pacino8685 ever went there while he was in Switzerland.

I recommend those two Herzog boxsets to anyone who's half-interested in Herzog, because whether you actually love the movies or not (I do), Herzog gives the best commentaries. They're worth it for hearing the man snap at Crispin Glover on the Fata Morgana commentary alone. I think Glover had the audacity to say that Werner got off on danger... He didn't much like that at all.

My next stop is the book he wrote while walking on foot from Munich to Paris to the German film critic, Lotte Eisner's sickbed, thinking that the gesture would save her (it did...for awhile). I think it's called Of Walking on Ice. Herzog described it as "somehow better than all my movies put together".

I'm sold!
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Postby Pacino86845 on Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:28 pm

seppukudkurosawa wrote:You know, if I ever go on a movie location pilgrimage, the place in Switzerland where Heart of Glass' opening scene was shot will be my movie Mecca. It just looked so ravishing in a stark sort of way. I wonder if Pacino8685 ever went there while he was in Switzerland.


Where was that? I haven't seen Heart of Glass.
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Postby Seppuku on Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:36 pm

Pacino86845 wrote:
seppukudkurosawa wrote:You know, if I ever go on a movie location pilgrimage, the place in Switzerland where Heart of Glass' opening scene was shot will be my movie Mecca. It just looked so ravishing in a stark sort of way. I wonder if Pacino8685 ever went there while he was in Switzerland.


Where was that? I haven't seen Heart of Glass.


I think on the commentary Herzog said it was kinda near to Bavaria where he grew up, but I could be wrong. It's been a while since I saw the movie, but there were a few bridges/ridges; it looked like an even more dreamy version of the Grand Canyon.

I think, though my knowledge of geography's pretty crap, that it's in Eastern Switzerland...



No help whatsoever, right? Ah well.

Anyway, I know you've got the first Herzog boxset, which was fairly cheapish; I think the second one's around the same price, so I'd recommend maybe picking it up. Fata Morgana, Even Dwarves Started Small and Heart of Glass aren't necessarily everyone's cup of tea, but you have two of his very best films in Strozseck and Kaspar Hauser in there too. Personally I love them all, but I learnt a long time ago that I've gotta be careful in recommending movies to people. Sorry grandma, wherever you are, I thought as far as snuff movies go, that one was very tasteful... :oops:

Erm...

I know my last few comments here should really have been posted in Pacino's Herzog thread (can you merge yet?), but I'd at least recommend Heart of Glass for Popol Vuh's haunting soundtrack. It's probably the best Florian Fricke ever did with Herzog.

I ordered it off Caiman USA a few weeks ago, but they're bloody slow bastards when it comes to sending things off. Bastards with impeccable taste, however. :x
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Postby Keepcoolbutcare on Sun Jul 01, 2007 8:15 pm

seppukudkurosawa wrote:It's also totally a film anyone getting high will get into


YAY!

seppukudkurosawa wrote:(just as long as they have at least a half-functional attention span)


You raised my hopes and dashed them quite expertly sir!
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Postby Seppuku on Sun Jul 01, 2007 8:36 pm

Keepcoolbutcare wrote:You raised my hopes and dashed them quite expertly sir!


I learnt from the best...(that blind girl who it turned out was able to see blurry grey shapes, and ditched you because your blurry grey shape was twice the size of most other people's).





:wink: /don't hurt me. I read your chaka khan smackdown. :shock:
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