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Movies That Didn't Need A Sequel

Postby judderman on Sat Oct 06, 2007 9:55 am

but got one anyway:

2001

Jaws

Dirty Dancing

Grease

King Kong (twice!)

But 2010 still tops the list. Much as I like 2010, it's still a bad idea to tie up the loose ends of a movie whose loose ends were the whole point.
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Postby Peven on Sat Oct 06, 2007 10:04 am

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Postby Wolfpack on Sat Oct 06, 2007 11:10 am

The Whole Nine Yards
Pitch Black
Miss Congeniality

And most classic Disney movies have straight-to-DVD sequels/third installments.
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Postby burlivesleftnut on Sat Oct 06, 2007 11:14 am

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Re: Movies that didn't need a sequel

Postby Fried Gold on Sat Oct 06, 2007 11:17 am

judderman wrote:But 2010 still tops the list. Much as I like 2010, it's still a bad idea to tie up the loose ends of a movie whose loose ends were the whole point.

I'd hardly say 2010 "ties up the loose ends". (the ends don't even get tied up in the 2061 or 3001 books)


I'd say The Matrix didn't need a sequel.
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Postby Cpt Kirks 2pay on Sat Oct 06, 2007 11:36 am

I hated the way that Cocoon 2 undid the whole open endedness of the first film. Let them go away to Space, leave that other guy behind who is not made for such an alteration of nature. DON'T send them back and have so much of that future that was laid before them and our imagination, to be all undone and even screw it up for some of those characters too, it was like rewriting Cocoon's ending - much for the worse.

I think this is one of the main reasons why sequels are bad, when they fundementally change the original movie's totally satisfying ending. Changing what it is that movies do best, leaving things up to our imagination.
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Postby Maui on Sat Oct 06, 2007 11:40 am

Wolfpack wrote:The Whole Nine Yards



They didn't even need the 1st one. :roll:
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Postby Vegeta on Sat Oct 06, 2007 11:40 am

Oceans 11, didn't need a sequel.

Highlander didn't need a sequel. In fact the sequel nearly ruined the original for me.
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Postby Maui on Sat Oct 06, 2007 11:43 am

Vegeta wrote:Highlander didn't need a sequel. In fact the sequel nearly ruined the original for me.


Couldn't agree more. Highlander is a classic - don't touch it.

You know all this sequel talk gets me back to my thoughts on sequels - cmon Hollywood enough already. Give us something new? Running out of ideas are we?

Dang!!! :roll:
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Postby Fievel on Sat Oct 06, 2007 11:59 am

Vegeta wrote:Oceans 11, didn't need a sequel.


I didn't think so either, but I loved 13 just as much as the first.
12 never happened.
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Postby Vegeta on Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:23 pm

Fievel wrote:
Vegeta wrote:Oceans 11, didn't need a sequel.


I didn't think so either, but I loved 13 just as much as the first.
12 never happened.


That's how I feel about The Temple of Doom... Shortround :roll:
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Postby instant_karma on Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:43 pm

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Postby tapehead on Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:46 pm

Robocop 2 is awesome.
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Re: Movies that didn't need a sequel

Postby Al Shut on Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:54 pm

Fried Gold wrote:I'd say The Matrix didn't need a sequel.


Wholeheartedly seconded
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Re: Movies that didn't need a sequel

Postby Maui on Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:59 pm

Al_Shut wrote:
Fried Gold wrote:I'd say The Matrix didn't need a sequel.


Wholeheartedly seconded


Thirded.

I only watched the sequels as I had a friend that auditioned for the role of Agent Smith (double) - you know the scene where they show a whole bunch of Agent Smiths. They also filmed the Ducati scenes here in the bay area, kinda cool.
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Postby King Of Nowhere on Sat Oct 06, 2007 1:12 pm

Silence Of The Lambs
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Blade Runner
Battle Royale
From Dusk Till Dawn
Desperado
Scary Movie
American Pie
Rush Hour
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Postby Chairman Kaga on Sat Oct 06, 2007 1:16 pm

king_of_nowhere wrote:Raiders of the Lost Ark

Don't agree.
king_of_nowhere wrote:Blade Runner

Huh? What sequel?
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Postby King Of Nowhere on Sat Oct 06, 2007 1:19 pm

Huh? What sequel?


Soldier, whoever made it forced it into the same universe. they say it's a "side-sequel" or some shit.

EDIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soldier_%28film%29
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Postby minstrel on Sat Oct 06, 2007 1:32 pm

Maui wrote:
Wolfpack wrote:The Whole Nine Yards



They didn't even need the 1st one. :roll:


That's just mean. The Whole Nine Yards is a fun little movie. I enjoyed it.
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Postby Maui on Sat Oct 06, 2007 1:38 pm

minstrel wrote:
Maui wrote:
Wolfpack wrote:The Whole Nine Yards



They didn't even need the 1st one. :roll:


That's just mean. The Whole Nine Yards is a fun little movie. I enjoyed it.


No nuts for you!!!
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Postby havocSchultz on Sat Oct 06, 2007 2:36 pm

Maui wrote:
minstrel wrote:
Maui wrote:
Wolfpack wrote:The Whole Nine Yards



They didn't even need the 1st one. :roll:


That's just mean. The Whole Nine Yards is a fun little movie. I enjoyed it.


No nuts for you!!!


But The Whole Nine Yards has Amanda Peet Topless...

Surely that's reason enough for a film to be made...

But I'll agree about the sequel...
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Postby Vegeta on Sat Oct 06, 2007 4:32 pm

Topless? Completely booty naked... very nice!
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Postby SilentBobX on Sat Oct 06, 2007 4:53 pm

Maui wrote:
Wolfpack wrote:The Whole Nine Yards



They didn't even need the 1st one. :roll:


I must disagree. Amanda Peet. Nude. Worth the price of admission definitely.

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Postby havocSchultz on Sat Oct 06, 2007 5:04 pm

SilentBobX wrote:
Maui wrote:
Wolfpack wrote:The Whole Nine Yards



They didn't even need the 1st one. :roll:


I must disagree. Amanda Peet. Nude. Worth the price of admission definitely.

Mahalo


Apparently we're on the same page...cause 2 posts above you:

havocSchultz wrote:
Maui wrote:
minstrel wrote:
Maui wrote:
Wolfpack wrote:The Whole Nine Yards



They didn't even need the 1st one. :roll:


That's just mean. The Whole Nine Yards is a fun little movie. I enjoyed it.


No nuts for you!!!


But The Whole Nine Yards has Amanda Peet Topless...

Surely that's reason enough for a film to be made...

But I'll agree about the sequel...
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Postby The Vicar on Sat Oct 06, 2007 5:07 pm

king_of_nowhere wrote:
Huh? What sequel?


Soldier, whoever made it forced it into the same universe. they say it's a "side-sequel" or some shit.

EDIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soldier_%28film%29



Sounds like a writer trying to transplant prestige from his finest hour and transfer it to a considerably lesser effort.
Mr. Peoples, I knew Bladerunner.
Bladerunner was a friend of mine.
Mr. Peoples, Soldier was no Bladerunner.

And Peoples should be tortured and hung upside down in the foulest pit toilet in Hell just for mentioning Ridley Scott & Paul What Shit Anderson in the same thought process.


Since Androids/Bladerunner was written by Phillip Dick, it is his child & your adaptation was only a riff on his tune, you don't get to posit any film as a sequel ( or whatever ) to Bladerunner. Just cause you adapted Dick's work doesn't mean his shit is now yours, and you can tailor it to suit your "vision" of another man's genius.

That's arrogant presumptuousness.
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Postby Wolfpack on Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:24 pm

SilentBobX wrote:
Maui wrote:
Wolfpack wrote:The Whole Nine Yards



They didn't even need the 1st one. :roll:


I must disagree. Amanda Peet. Nude. Worth the price of admission definitely.

Mahalo


But we've got freeze frame and DVD-quality pictures, so that shouldn't be an issue.
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Postby colonel_lugz on Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:26 pm

tapehead wrote:Robocop 2 is awesome.



Kane would kick the shit out of ED209
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Postby Chairman Kaga on Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:27 pm

colonel_lugz wrote:
tapehead wrote:Robocop 2 is awesome.



Kane would kick the shit out of ED209

Not if he had the DTs
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Postby minstrel on Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:37 pm

Wolfpack wrote:
SilentBobX wrote:
Maui wrote:
Wolfpack wrote:The Whole Nine Yards



They didn't even need the 1st one. :roll:


I must disagree. Amanda Peet. Nude. Worth the price of admission definitely.

Mahalo


But we've got freeze frame and DVD-quality pictures, so that shouldn't be an issue.


Moving nudes are better than static nudes.

Besides, Matthew Perry was actually funny in this film. I loved when he took the tiny single-serving Scotch bottle out of his minibar, stared at it for a moment, then called down to room service, and said: "This is Dr. Oseransky in room 119. I'm going to need a bigger bottle of Scotch."
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Movies that didn't need a sequel

Postby bastard_robo on Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:47 am

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Postby Al Shut on Thu Nov 22, 2007 6:56 am

Hey I kinda liked Blair Witch 2 :x

But on the other hand in the spirit of this thread Blair Witch Project surely didn't need a sequel.
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Re: Movies that didn't need a sequel

Postby junesquad on Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:55 am

judderman wrote:Dirty Dancing
Grease


You are sooo right!!! The sequel to Dirty Dancing totally ignored the point of the first one. I refused to watch it due to the fact that it wasn't made with the same spirit/goal... which was the only thing that the first one had going for it.
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Re: Movies that didn't need a sequel

Postby DinoDeLaurentiis on Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:59 am



Anna you'll alla notice... the King Kong Lives, she is a NOT onna the list!

Nor is a the Hannibal Rising!

BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!

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Postby Wolfpack on Thu Nov 22, 2007 12:02 pm

The Phantom Menace
Attack of the Clones
Saw
Saw II
Saw III
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Re: Movies that didn't need a sequel

Postby DaleTremont on Thu Nov 22, 2007 1:16 pm

judderman wrote:Dirty Dancing


Hmm..."need"? Ok it didn't need a sequel but I'm glad they made one. :oops:






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Postby Pacino86845 on Thu Nov 22, 2007 3:59 pm

Not that I've seen Elizabeth in the first place, but it didn't really strike me as a film that needed a sequel... what's the new one called, Elizabeth: The Reckoning?
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Postby TonyWilson on Thu Nov 22, 2007 4:59 pm

Pacino86845 wrote:Not that I've seen Elizabeth in the first place, but it didn't really strike me as a film that needed a sequel... what's the new one called, Elizabeth: The Reckoning?


I don't know if I agree with that, Pacino. There's certainly plenty of material in Elizabeth I's life to fill 3 movies.
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Postby Worst Part's Almost Over on Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:17 pm

Terminator 3: Rise Of The Machines
Alien Resurrection
Batman Forever
Batman & Robin
Fierce Creatures (sort of a sequel)
Jaws 2, 3 and The Revenge
Carrie 2
Shrek 2 and 3
Spiderman 3
Highlander 2, 3 and Endgame
Superman III and IV

All I can think of right now.
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Postby Cpt Kirks 2pay on Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:01 pm

Remember they were talking about sequelling Forrest Gump with the 2nd novel, Gump and Co.?

Now from what I can gather, I think that that would be a sequel I would NOT want to see. Again, for one thing, it's a sequel that outdoes the ending of the original. Forrest Gump is a movie in which the ending I just want left untouched, and dangling in my imagination as to what happens for the rest of the character's lives - not done so for me by a sequel!!!

Guess they shouldn't have done the novel too, if what I heard about the story holds up.
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Postby Dee E. Goppstober on Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:29 pm

Yeah, especially since the novel was written as a sequel of the movie really, was it not? That in itself is silly I think- I mean if you write a story, then continue that story- and not one you didn't come up with in the first place, right?
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Postby Chairman Kaga on Fri Nov 23, 2007 1:53 am

I couldn't even finish the novel. It was horrible.
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Postby junesquad on Fri Nov 23, 2007 1:55 am

I don't like any sequel that uses different actors/voices than the original movies. Like when Robin Williams wasn't Genie in the second movie. Gimme Aladdin, keep the rest.
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Postby papalazeru on Fri Nov 23, 2007 6:00 am

Fox and the hound 2.

I mean, WTF!!! Ruina perfectly good Disney movie.

Disney is possibly one of the best culprits in this domain.
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Postby King Of Nowhere on Fri Nov 23, 2007 6:29 am

papalazeru wrote:Fox and the hound 2.

I mean, WTF!!! Ruina perfectly good Disney movie.

Disney is possibly one of the best culprits in this domain.


Yep.

I'll throw in ALL Disney straight to video/DVD sequels:

Return of Jafar - Not terrible, not needed
Aladdin and the King of Thieves - see above
Pocahontas II: Journey to a New World - Journey to the bargain bin
The Lion King II: Simba's Pride - Disney, do you not understand the meaning of the "Circle of Life" song?
The Little Mermaid II: Return to the Sea - Return to the well
Lady and the Tramp II: Scamp's Adventure - pointless
Cinderella II - WTF?
The Jungle Book 2 - oh, lets piss on one of the best films we've ever made by letting John Goodman do a voice for it's sequel. Thats right, John Goodman, cause look at the other sequel he was in recently, Blues Brothers 2000. John"Franchise killer"Goodman FFS.
The Hunchback of Notre Dame II - How Hunchback failed to get his groove... back
101 Dalmatians II - All dogs go to hell
The Lion King 1½ - Hours of your life you'll never get back
The Fox and the Hound 2 - Papalazeru covered it
Bambi II - Bambi strikes back, nobody notices
Cinderella III: A Twist in Time - A waste of time

Oh, they are doing some more, what have we got to look forward to?

The Little Mermaid: Ariel's Beginning
Come on.

Alright, own up, who's buying this shit?
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Postby papalazeru on Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:10 am

[quote="king_of_nowhere]

The Little Mermaid: Ariel's Beginning
Come on.

Alright, own up, who's buying this shit?[/quote]

Is this going to be a porn with King Triten?

:lol:

You gotta give Aladdin 2 some credit because of Gilbert Gottfrieds wonderful Iago the parrot.
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Postby King Of Nowhere on Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:16 am

I did. Out of that whole list, the only ones i enjoyed were the Aladdin sequels, but at the same time, were they needed?
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Postby papalazeru on Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:23 am

True Kon. True.
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Postby Worst Part's Almost Over on Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:43 am

king_of_nowhere wrote:Oh, they are doing some more, what have we got to look forward to?

The Little Mermaid: Ariel Begins
Come on.


Christian Bale for Ariel :D
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Postby papalazeru on Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:50 am

Worst Part's Almost Over wrote:
king_of_nowhere wrote:Oh, they are doing some more, what have we got to look forward to?

The Little Mermaid: Ariel Begins
Come on.


Christian Bale for Ariel :D


Yup. I'd still do 'er.

Take one for the team and all that.
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Postby Cpt Kirks 2pay on Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:56 am

What about Rocky guys?

What was once an open and closed case of a story of a guy not mattering wether he won or not and that was the message, period. - Now decided, not just to go one more movie just to satisfy all the victory seeking mofos in the movie house with Rocky 2, but then thought, well he's champ now, so let's give him a REAL test of a champ with Rocky 3, then thought, well he's WELL HARD now, so let's give him a show of just how REALLY UNBELIEVABLY SUPERHEROICLY STRONG he is with Rocky 4, then when they should have left it for definite here, as Stallone himself said, there's nowhere else left to go and anything else would be antimclimatic, they decided to piss all over Rocky's message of life success by doing Rocky 5, hoping to give him a REAL challenge of life survival but only making Rocky fans feel betrayed (crappy way it all went pear shaped for him in this film anyway), and then, 'cos Stallone wanted to make amends so much and probably just needed another hit, they give him a chance to hit back at life and go out happily in Rocky Balboa - even though the dude was in his 60s!?


I mean, one movie was enough, but even though you think, in for a penny in for a pound, you could have at least ended it at Rocky 3 or 4 - and even then, that's a stretch! It really should just have been one movie. But to go 6 MOVIES?!??!!?

WTF!??!?!?!





That's why I'm counting the days until Christmas and being a good little boy and not chasing little girls, just so that Santa baby can get me the Rocky 6 movie boxed set plus the Rocky Balboa soundtrack including virtually all of the movies' scores!!! Heeheheeeheee!!!!!


So, comments on this series, anyone? Necessary Evils, I mean, Sequels?
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