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Postby RogueScribner on Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:55 pm

Are you sure that isn't Helena Bonham Carter? :lol:
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Postby so sorry on Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:09 pm

BuckyO'harre wrote:Pic of Depp as the Mad Hatter, courtesy of comingsoon.net.


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Looks like Harpo meets Ziggy Stardust.


Looks like a regular Tuesday in the Depp household.
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Postby DaleTremont on Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:13 pm

It looks like Sweeney Todd's Dumbledore twin.
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Re: ALICE IN WONDERLAND - Finally, a decent remake!

Postby Retardo_Montalban on Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:48 am

I'm guessing the March Hair won't have any speaking parts. I think it would be cooler if Johnny Depp was dressed like a giant rabbit and he was holding a tiny mute Mad Hatter in his arms.
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Tim Burton’s Alice in Wonderland

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Postby Maui on Sat Dec 27, 2008 3:02 pm

I've been anxious to see who Burton was going to cast as the hookah smoking caterpillar. Rickman is an excellent choice.

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Postby papalazeru on Sat Dec 27, 2008 11:54 pm

I saw the Porn version of Alice in Wonderland.

It's going to take some beating, even with Alan Rickman. The rabbit lived up to his name in so many different ways.


Oh, and there weren't any smurfs in it, Maui :wink:
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Re: ALICE IN WONDERLAND - Finally, a decent remake!

Postby bastard_robo on Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:41 pm

Looking good!

Burton is best for material like this.. Charlie and the Chocolate factory was good IMO, nothing like the OG, but still good. Planet of the Apes though.. Ugh..
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Re: ALICE IN WONDERLAND - Finally, a decent remake!

Postby Nachokoolaid on Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:12 pm

Looks really good to me. I think the story of Alice is perfectly suited for Tim Burton. I hope it's scary, but fun too.
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Postby Nachokoolaid on Mon Jun 22, 2009 4:06 pm

Oh, and I just wanted to bring up the point that the title of this thread says "remake," but the plot synopsis I've read sounds more like a sequel.
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Re: ALICE IN WONDERLAND - Finally, a sequel remake thing!

Postby Maui on Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:45 pm

He looks like Gene Wilder.
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Postby RogueScribner on Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:57 pm

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Re: ALICE IN WONDERLAND - Finally, a sequel remake thing!

Postby Fievel on Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:59 pm

Trailer

They've been pulling these all day so I'd imagine it'll be officially released curing the CON.
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Postby Bayouwolf on Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:20 pm

Fievel wrote:Trailer

They've been pulling these all day so I'd imagine it'll be officially released curing the CON.


meh

I hate to say it, but this looks all kinds of ass. Which is a shame, because the cast list is pretty incredible (Is he collecting every actor that can play a creepy role or what)... Hopefully the next trailer will feel a little more sinister and less, cartoony...

It's like Burton has fallen into the M. Night syndrome, except instead of a surprise twist, he just ends up throwing in some new actor or actress to sate his lust for turning pretty things ugly.

I hope Ann Hathaway doesn't end up like HBC or Christina Ricci after starring in one of these films.
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Re: ALICE IN WONDERLAND - Finally, a sequel remake thing!

Postby RogueScribner on Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:44 pm

In case that link doesn't work, it's also HERE.

It's a teaser trailer, not a full trailer, so I can't really make a judgment call on the movie. That, and it was a teaser trailer for Johnny Depp in Alice in Wonderland and not really for Alice in Wonderland itself.

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Re: ALICE IN WONDERLAND - Finally, a sequel remake thing!

Postby burlivesleftnut on Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:33 am

Bayou wrote:Hopefully the next trailer will feel a little more sinister and less, cartoony...


Uhm... do you live in funky town? It's Alice in Wonderland. From what I saw in the trailer we have a creepy, fun movie to look forward to. I am not exactly sure how you do Alice in Wonderland without "cartoony", but I am pretty sure I don't want to see that version.
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Re: ALICE IN WONDERLAND - Finally, a sequel remake thing!

Postby judderman on Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:41 am

I dunno. No one is EVER going to do the book "justice" and have the Duchess throwing cutlery at a screaming baby, which then turns into a pig. So I accept any lowering of the creepiness quotient with weary resignation every time a new adaptation is announced. The trailer didn't give away much, but there were some hopeful little touches of sadism, like the smack when Alice hit the ground.
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Re: ALICE IN WONDERLAND - Finally, a sequel remake thing!

Postby Bayouwolf on Thu Jul 23, 2009 8:20 am

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Bayou wrote:Hopefully the next trailer will feel a little more sinister and less, cartoony...


Uhm... do you live in funky town? It's Alice in Wonderland. From what I saw in the trailer we have a creepy, fun movie to look forward to. I am not exactly sure how you do Alice in Wonderland without "cartoony", but I am pretty sure I don't want to see that version.


We already have a pretty damn fine "cartoon" version of Alice. I'm not looking forward to another Sleepy Hollow.

I want to see the Red Queen in a position where she might actually take a fucking head, the Cheshire cat is a pretty sinister character when you take him in his proper context, The FUCKING Jabberwock ferfuxake... It's "Scared straight" for the victorian kids...so yeah, I think it should be somewhat evil, and less tweedle dee and tweedle dum...

I've always interpreted it as a story of how our excesses work to destroy us. Not simply "immature girl realizes that reality is better than fantasy by falling down a hole and having a few misadventures"

The trailer makes me feel like it's "Through the looking glass" with a side of Burtons brand of "goth vomit".
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Re: ALICE IN WONDERLAND - Finally, a sequel remake thing!

Postby Ribbons on Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:46 am

I don't know, that looked pretty sweet to me. I don't know that much about Lewis Carrol or the history of his books, but I figure it's got to be a better adaptation than whatever's come before it, right? ...right? :oops:
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Postby so sorry on Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:54 am

Ribbons wrote:I don't know, that looked pretty sweet to me. I don't know that much about Lewis Carrol or the history of his books, but I figure it's got to be a better adaptation than whatever's come before it, right? ...right? :oops:


Maybe, but the feels like yet another Burton/Depp flick to me, more so than anything else. Not that there's anything wrong with that if you like Burton and Depp together.


Honestly, it might be nice to see Burton try a movie without Depp and Helena.


But I'm not Lewis Carrol/Alice fan or a Burton/Depp fan, so I'm totally meh on this.
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Re: ALICE IN WONDERLAND - Finally, a sequel remake thing!

Postby Fievel on Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:51 am

so sorry wrote:Honestly, it might be nice to see Burton try a movie without Depp


Perhaps Paul Reubens would have been a better Mad Hatter?

I typed that initially as a joke, but I bet he would have been pretty good in his own way.
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Re: ALICE IN WONDERLAND - Finally, a sequel remake thing!

Postby Peven on Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:58 am

Burton is very over-rated, imo, and this looks like one more excuse for him to do his whole "dark and quirky" thing, which is SO fucking worn out by now, i mean, come on, dude, get a new fucking schtick already....
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Re: ALICE IN WONDERLAND - Finally, a sequel remake thing!

Postby tapehead on Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:59 am

Not sure if 'Cartoony' is necessarily the right word, but Carroll had a lot of his books illustrated - John Tenniel was chosen by him to do 'Wonderland' and 'Looking Glass', and his grotesque, exaggerated 'realism' is still familiar, despite Paramount's similar (and hard to find) B&W and Disney's much softer version. Alice just isn't very dark, because Lewis loved children (really, a lot) and this looks good to me.

Bayou wrote:The FUCKING Jabberwock ferfuxake... It's "Scared straight" for the victorian kids


How so? Because I think it's nonsense. Also, since it's not from 'Alice in Wonderland' but from 'Looking Glass', why would you expect that it would be included?
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Postby Al Shut on Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:25 pm

tapehead wrote:
Bayou wrote:The FUCKING Jabberwock ferfuxake... It's "Scared straight" for the victorian kids


How so? Because I think it's nonsense. Also, since it's not from 'Alice in Wonderland' but from 'Looking Glass', why would you expect that it would be included?


Because it is. Stuff from both books is in this non-straight adaption/sequel thing. But yeah nonsense seems to be a better fit than some sort of scare the children morality story. I think the appendix by some guy telling me what to think about the story also said something about rules, society and their ridiculousness, which sounds pretty right for a Burton film
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Re: ALICE IN WONDERLAND - Finally, a sequel remake thing!

Postby tapehead on Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:32 pm

Bah! I can't find the teaser anywhere now...
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Postby RogueScribner on Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:34 pm

Yes, the Alice stories were primarily about nonsense and absurdity in the face of the rules of "society." What's normal for one person is quite absurd to someone else. AiWL was never meant to be scary, just wacky and weird to the nth degree. There is an inherent danger in absurdity but none moreso than in real life.

Like I said, I'm waiting for the real trailer to get released before I start forming opinions on this thing. All we know so far is that Johnny Depp plays the Mad Hatter in Alice in Wonderland. That's pretty much the gist of that teaser.
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Postby papalazeru on Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:34 pm

tapehead wrote:Bah! I can't find the teaser anywhere now...


I had the same prob tapes but Rogues link is working again.

Don't look great though. Rogues link
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Re: ALICE IN WONDERLAND - Finally, a sequel remake thing!

Postby DerLanghaarige on Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:37 pm

Peven wrote:Burton is very over-rated, imo, and this looks like one more excuse for him to do his whole "dark and quirky" thing, which is SO fucking worn out by now, i mean, come on, dude, get a new fucking schtick already....


Yeah, because Planet Of The Apes, Big Fish and Charlie & The Chocolate Factory were so dark and Sweeney Todd was the definition of quirky. :roll: I don't wanna insult anybody here, but sometimes I think that all the people who complain that "every Burton movie is the same" are only hipsters, who are annoyed by the goth kid in their neighbourhood, wearing a Nightmare Before X-mas shirt.
He has a recognizable style and some recurring themes, but he made comedies, horror movies, a musical, a biopic, a violent SciFi comedy, a popcorn movie, a kids movie [two stop motion movies that were technically not REALLY from him] and a flat out superhero deconstruction, without repeating himself too much, despite using some of the same actors and the kind of recognizable style that pretty much every good director has in his own version.
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Postby RogueScribner on Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:49 pm

Yeah, Burton's tastes range from the macabre to the heartfelt to the silly. The only throughline in all his movies is a weird protoganist (save for Planet of the Apes I suppose, but I don't really count that as a true Burton film).
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Postby Al Shut on Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:55 pm

When you say it like that than this should be pretty different with Alice beeing the only normal character.
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Postby travis-dane on Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:11 pm

DerLanghaarige wrote:
Peven wrote:Burton is very over-rated, imo, and this looks like one more excuse for him to do his whole "dark and quirky" thing, which is SO fucking worn out by now, i mean, come on, dude, get a new fucking schtick already....


Yeah, because Planet Of The Apes, Big Fish and Charlie & The Chocolate Factory were so dark and Sweeney Todd was the definition of quirky. :roll: I don't wanna insult anybody here, but sometimes I think that all the people who complain that "every Burton movie is the same" are only hipsters, who are annoyed by the goth kid in their neighbourhood, wearing a Nightmare Before X-mas shirt.
He has a recognizable style and some recurring themes, but he made comedies, horror movies, a musical, a biopic, a violent SciFi comedy, a popcorn movie, a kids movie [two stop motion movies that were technically not REALLY from him] and a flat out superhero deconstruction, without repeating himself too much, despite using some of the same actors and the kind of recognizable style that pretty much every good director has in his own version.


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Re: ALICE IN WONDERLAND - Finally, a sequel remake thing!

Postby Nachokoolaid on Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:37 pm

I was actually pretty impressed by the teaser. I liked it a lot. I thought the Cheshire Cat looked a little too fake though. It looked too happy perhaps. Maybe the voice actor will really sell it, but after being impressed so much with the rest of the design of the film, that let me down a bit. But other than that, I thought it was all top notch.
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Postby King Psyz on Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:55 pm

If I remember correctly they used Stephen Fry for the Cheshire Cat which could be hillariously glib and dark.
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Postby RogueScribner on Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:11 pm

Aren't they still shooting or just recently finish? I think the visual effects have a ways to go before final print. I don't think the movie even comes out until next year.
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Postby TheBaxter on Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:20 pm

Peven wrote:Burton is very over-rated, imo, and this looks like one more excuse for him to do his whole "dark and quirky" thing, which is SO fucking worn out by now, i mean, come on, dude, get a new fucking schtick already....


i think the real problem is burton needs to get back to developing his own ideas. what's he done lately? sleepy hollow, planet of the apes, charlie & the chocolate factory, sweeney todd, and now alice in wonderland. burton was at his best when he was developing original stories and ideas - edward scissorhands, beetlejuice, nightmare before xmas, even ed wood. all these remakes and re-adaptations are just not as interesting and a bit devoid of the soul that went into his more original stuff.
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Re: ALICE IN WONDERLAND - Finally, a sequel remake thing!

Postby so sorry on Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:23 pm

TheBaxter wrote:
Peven wrote:Burton is very over-rated, imo, and this looks like one more excuse for him to do his whole "dark and quirky" thing, which is SO fucking worn out by now, i mean, come on, dude, get a new fucking schtick already....


i think the real problem is burton needs to get back to developing his own ideas. what's he done lately? sleepy hollow, planet of the apes, charlie & the chocolate factory, sweeney todd, and now alice in wonderland. burton was at his best when he was developing original stories and ideas - edward scissorhands, beetlejuice, nightmare before xmas, even ed wood. all these remakes and re-adaptations are just not as interesting and a bit devoid of the soul that went into his more original stuff.



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Postby Bayouwolf on Thu Jul 23, 2009 6:05 pm

DerLanghaarige wrote:I don't wanna insult anybody here, but sometimes I think that all the people who complain that "every Burton movie is the same" are only hipsters, who are annoyed by the goth kid in their neighbourhood, wearing a Nightmare Before X-mas shirt.


For the record, I don't the hate the goth kid in the neighborhood...Although, I do wish he (she/it/whatever) would wake up and realize this... :wink:

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Peven wrote:Burton is very over-rated, imo, and this looks like one more excuse for him to do his whole "dark and quirky" thing, which is SO fucking worn out by now, i mean, come on, dude, get a new fucking schtick already....


i think the real problem is burton needs to get back to developing his own ideas. what's he done lately? sleepy hollow, planet of the apes, charlie & the chocolate factory, sweeney todd, and now alice in wonderland. burton was at his best when he was developing original stories and ideas - edward scissorhands, beetlejuice, nightmare before xmas, even ed wood. all these remakes and re-adaptations are just not as interesting and a bit devoid of the soul that went into his more original stuff.



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Postby Cpt Kirks 2pay on Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:41 pm

Was thinking the same thing to myself a while back. It's like he's whored himself out to the studio for adapatations adapatations adapatations. Gimme Pee Wee anyday. Possibly Burton's best film, seeing as it's certainly his most effective in my opinion. Edward Scissorhands make me cry? Sod off, I was so bored by the end. How can you make a teerjerky love story about a lonely outsider misfit (something that I would normally go right down the line for) and FAIL to get any emotional reaction from me I just don't know.

Though I do think that Burton's films ARE dark and quirky to the point of being like a trademark, whether a film of his is one or the other or both. And none of this Planet of the Apes shit. That's categorized as an 'exception' and like was pointed out before, not to be considered a real Tim Burton film.

Oh and this film *looks pretty good, actually!






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Postby Bloo on Fri Jan 29, 2010 7:35 am

one thing about this movie is it's on a lot of people's minds and it helped me sell my stage adaptation to some producer friends of mine. Ok sure it's a one act children's theater production but it helped ;)
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Re: ALICE IN WONDERLAND - Finally, a sequel remake thing!

Postby Bayouwolf on Sat Jan 30, 2010 5:00 pm

I'm afraid that after starring in a Burton flick, Anne Hathaway is gonna get HBC ugly very fast...

If that happens, I'll boycott every Burton film from now till the end of time...

loves me some Anne Hathaway...
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Re: ALICE IN WONDERLAND - Finally, a sequel remake thing!

Postby Bloo on Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:21 am

Bayouwolf wrote:I'm afraid that after starring in a Burton flick, Anne Hathaway is gonna get HBC ugly very fast...

If that happens, I'll boycott every Burton film from now till the end of time...

loves me some Anne Hathaway...


but Winona didn't get ugly (and I don't think HBC's ugly just...unique LOL), and how many movies did Ryder do with Burton
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Re: ALICE IN WONDERLAND - Finally, a sequel remake thing!

Postby Nachokoolaid on Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:46 am

I was just at the theater, and I saw a poster. I didn't realize this came out so soon.

Still feels like this may be a bit too quirky, but I feel like this is the right melding of director and project. But I also would like to see Burton do some more original material.
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