SPEED RACER

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SPEED RACER

Postby MasterWhedon on Fri Jun 02, 2006 6:06 pm

IGN FilmForce has the story HERE.

IGN FilmForce wrote:IGN FilmForce was recently informed by a longtime source that Larry and Andy Wachowski, the creative force behind The Matrix trilogy, may write and direct the live-action, feature film version of Speed Racer for Joel Silver Pictures and Warner Bros. The long-in-development project is based on the classic Japanese cartoon.

None of the parties involved would go on the record when asked about the project. Inquiries to Warners and the Wachowskis' publicist went unanswered by publishing time.

Silver Pictures said it would not comment about any potential project that may or may not be in an early stage of development. Read into that comment what you will.

So where does this leave Vince Vaughn, who sold his pitch for a Speed Racer movie to Warners in June 2004? Will he still co-star as the title character's brother Racer X in a possible Wachowskis version? When asked if their client was still attached to Speed Racer, Vaughn's reps at UTA had "no comment."

Umm, seriously? Am I the only one who doesn't get the Speed Racer craze?
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Postby Hollywood_Bob on Fri Jun 02, 2006 6:08 pm

Nope...I never really got it either MW, I was to busy getting my Transformers on.
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Postby King Psyz on Fri Jun 02, 2006 6:09 pm

I love speed racer, but I would hope they go retro 50's/60's racing feel to it.
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Re: Wachowski Bros. to Make Speed Racer Movie? Hubbahwha?!!

Postby The Ginger Man on Fri Jun 02, 2006 6:11 pm

MasterWhedon wrote:Umm, seriously? Am I the only one who doesn't get the Speed Racer craze?


Don't worry, dude. There is no Speed Racer craze. Remember when no one was asking for a Dukes of Hazzard movie? Or a Starsky and Hutch movie? Or a Bewitched movie? Or a....seriously, I could do this all day.
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Postby Chairman Kaga on Fri Jun 02, 2006 6:39 pm

Speed Racer is one of the absolute worst cartoons ever made. It doesn't even get a pass based on the time period and region in which it was originally produced considering far superior programs made at the same time like Astro Boy and Gigantor. I think this would make a hilarious film especially if it stuck with the atrocious dialogue.

On a side note the episode of Dexter's Lac mocking Speed Raced is one of my favs.
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Postby raasnio on Fri Jun 02, 2006 6:42 pm

Wachowski Brothers? Vince Vaughn? Speed Racer?

No thanks.
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Postby Shane on Fri Jun 02, 2006 6:43 pm

Speed racer sucked, I'll pass on that.
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Postby MasterWhedon on Fri Jun 02, 2006 6:54 pm

This just seems like an odd choice for the Wachowskis. Speed Racer always had a silly, campy vibe to it. Their stuff is usually more... emo.
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Postby Vegeta on Fri Jun 02, 2006 6:56 pm

Didn't they do this already... "The fast and the furious"? :wink:
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Postby ZombieZoneSolutions on Fri Jun 02, 2006 7:16 pm

WOW! Cool! I hope that they keep it in the campy spirit of the
original; I absolutely do not want "an edgier, darker SPEED RACER."
I want campy retro fun SPEED RACER...

And speaking of SPEED RACER, of course I totally love it. I think if
you were born in the 70s, you kinda have to love it. When I was like, 5
years old, it was pretty much the greatest thing in the world for me;
well, SPEED RACER and the Bakshi SPIDERMAN cartoon...

Its too bad that Johnny Depp is getting on in years, he would have been
a perfect SPEED RACER about 10, 15 years ago...

BTW, has anyone ever noticed how much SPEED RACER looks like Elvis
in SPINOUT? Check it out:

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Postby King Psyz on Fri Jun 02, 2006 7:26 pm

I've never understood all the Speed Racer hate... It did it's job at entertaining me as a kid and it's still fun to go back and watch the silliness of it all now.
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Postby AtomicHyperbole on Fri Jun 02, 2006 7:27 pm

Wachowski's? One great film, one good film, a lot of wasted opportunities. This sounds pointless, but no doubt they're going to reinvent it into submission... hopefully by playing to their strengths.
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Postby ZombieZoneSolutions on Fri Jun 02, 2006 7:47 pm

King Psyz wrote:I've never understood all the Speed Racer hate... It did it's job at entertaining me as a kid and it's still fun to go back and watch the silliness of it all now.


Totally. When I was a kid it was the best adventure cartoon out there;
now its just good, campy fun. I still love it, of course, but now it's more
about nostalgia and the campiness... I hope they keep that vibe to it...
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Postby ONeillSG1 on Fri Jun 02, 2006 9:06 pm

You realize you can't call them the Wach. Bros because one of them is no longer a man.

I guess Wach. Siblings doesn't have the same ring to it.
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Postby Kilgore on Fri Jun 02, 2006 9:29 pm

raasnio wrote:Wachowski Brothers? Vince Vaughn? Speed Racer?


Lisa Simpson wrote: I know what all those words mean....I just don't understand what they're all doing together.
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Postby havocSchultz on Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:04 am

ZombieZoneSolutions wrote:
Its too bad that Johnny Depp is getting on in years, he would have been
a perfect SPEED RACER about 10, 15 years ago...



weird - cause i remember a few years ago - they were wanting to make this film (They as in not the Wachowski's, but somebody) and Depp was rumored to be very close to joining on as the Speed Racer himself...


and i've always said that johhny depp looks a little like old japanese animation...




and fuck this - i want my AstroBoy movie starring the kid from the omen remake and the dog from frasier or something like that...
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Postby tapehead on Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:20 am

AtomicHyperbole wrote:Wachowski's? One great film, one good film, a lot of wasted opportunities. This sounds pointless, but no doubt they're going to reinvent it into submission... hopefully by playing to their strengths.


so.... is it 'Bound' or 'V for Vedetta' that you don't rate at all? 'cos i have it as 1 great film, 1 good film, 1 troubled adaptation from a popular illustrated novel, e.t.c.

Speedracer was all cool visuals and catchy theme tune as I remember, I'll watch with interest to see how they piece together a feature length narrative from cartoon storylines (considering how laboured the Matrix sequels scripts seem)
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Postby AtomicHyperbole on Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:29 am

Not seen V, but I heard rubbish things about it. Besides, they didn't direct it. Waiting for the DVD but not expecting much.
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Postby LeFlambeur on Sat Jun 03, 2006 11:09 am

The Wachowskis would be great filmmakers if they wern't completly insane. Or maybe it was that insanity that made their first two films good. I dont know, either way they're pissing thier carrers down the toilet.
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Postby ZombieZoneSolutions on Sat Jun 03, 2006 12:18 pm

V FOR VENDETTA is easily, hands down, the best movie of 2006.
Oh, and, more comics blasphemy from me -- their adpatation is
better than Alan Moore's original. Sorry, but it's true. I
love Alan Moore, but that whole extremely goofy LSD trip sequence
is monumentally ALF. Not his fault; he was young.

Yeah, changes were made to reflect the rise of Neo-Fascism in the US,
but that's good. A social critique of Thatcher's England was great
for the 1980s. Now? Not so much.

And the ending with the masks; yeah, maybe a stretch, but it brought
a tear to my eye nonetheless; eventually, inevitably, the people
will rise up and demand radical change. In Imperial America, the
first step is going to be the November elections, which is pretty
much guarenteed to kill the NeoCon majority and get us back
on track to progressive, New Deal style populism in policy...
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Postby tapehead on Sat Jun 03, 2006 12:43 pm

ZombieZoneSolutions wrote:V FOR VENDETTA is easily, hands down, the best movie of 2006.
Oh, and, more comics blasphemy from me -- their adpatation is
better than Alan Moore's original. Sorry, but it's true. I
love Alan Moore, but that whole extremely goofy LSD trip sequence
is monumentally ALF. Not his fault; he was young.

Yeah, changes were made to reflect the rise of Neo-Fascism in the US,
but that's good. A social critique of Thatcher's England was great
for the 1980s. Now? Not so much.

And the ending with the masks; yeah, maybe a stretch, but it brought
a tear to my eye nonetheless; eventually, inevitably, the people
will rise up and demand radical change. In Imperial America, the
first step is going to be the November elections, which is pretty
much guarenteed to kill the NeoCon majority and get us back
on track to progressive, New Deal style populism in policy...


I admire your enthusiasm, but disagree - didn't actually note much pointed critique that seemed to be directed at 'U.S. Neo-Fascism' either. I thought it was pretty flat, despite being littered with good ideas, and I found myself wondering if maybe the comic might have been better (haven't read it). Also, it is only June, there's a lot of movies I'm still looking forward to, Like Southland Tales, The Fountain, the new Macbeth, Miami Vice; man there's heaps that could be better and more important films for me.
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Postby MasterWhedon on Sat Jun 03, 2006 1:47 pm

V for Vendetta was fun, but I was never once MOVED by it in the same way I was Brick or United 93. Those two get my vote for best of the year at this point.

And don't take this the wrong way, but I think James McTeigue is a director on par with Brett Ratner. The guy can shoot some pretty action, can tell a decent enough story, but his rhythms never clicked with me 100% and I find some his staging to be awkward. He feels like a 2nd Unit Director (which he was) who got tapped for the big chair (which he did).

Bound and The Matrix were brilliant films. Reloaded and Revolutions had their issues, but you can't deny the Wachowski's voice. I only question their choice for Speed Racer because it seems way off for them. I never, ever once doubt their ability.
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Postby tapehead on Sat Jun 03, 2006 2:09 pm

-good point regarding McTeigue, my feeling he turned 'V for Vendetta' in under the Wacho's close scrutiny. I can only speculate the brothers have chosen 'Speed Racer' as a very simple concept they plan to reinvent, or they see it as a property with potential, from a Producer's standpoint... It does have enduring cult appeal
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Postby Fried Gold on Sat Jun 03, 2006 2:31 pm

Will it keep the same Speed Racer-style dialogue?

ButPops, youalwaystoldmetostayoffthefreewayAHHA
YesSpeedthat'strueAHHA
YousaiditwassuicideAHHA
ThenletushopethatIwaswrongAAAHH
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Postby MasterWhedon on Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:05 pm

BUMPED like a biotch!

WACHOWSKIS OFFICIALLY TO DIRECT SPEED RACER!

Still not sure how I feel about this... Kinda sorta glad they're just doing another movie.
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Postby Ribbons on Wed Nov 01, 2006 2:23 pm

Big props for Silver's doggedness in getting directors to commit to certain movies. I remember how he pestered Joss Whedon until he talked him into doing Wonder Woman. Silver doesn't have the best track record, but there's something admirable in that kind of determination.
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Postby Peven on Wed Nov 01, 2006 2:26 pm

the big question is, real chimp or cgi chimp?
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Postby MasterWhedon on Wed Nov 01, 2006 2:27 pm

That's one of the reasons why everyone thinks he's a bully. He simply WON'T let you pass until you either a) give him your lunch money or b) commit to a film project you're somewhat-apprehensive about.
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Postby Ribbons on Wed Nov 01, 2006 2:29 pm

Yeah. It's a little amusing from an outsider's perspective, but I can see how that would be most uncool for the reluctant filmmakers. I wonder what it is about Speed Racer that made him hassle the Wachowskis.
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Postby Nordling on Wed Nov 01, 2006 2:33 pm

To me, growing up on Speed Racer, this sounds incredibly uber-cool. If The W Bros keep it fun, and action-packed, I'm so there. This is the best movie news I've read this week.
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Postby Peven on Wed Nov 01, 2006 2:54 pm

i watched Speed Racer as a kid back in the early 70's too, and was one of those who bought it as soon as it was released on dvd to share with my kids. if the W's fuck this up i won't be nearly as forgiving as when they screwed the pooch with the second and third Matrix flicks.
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Postby WinslowLeach on Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:46 am

Is this going to have a CGI Speed Racer driving in bullet time around the track? If so, Im THERE!! :)
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Postby buster00 on Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:14 pm

So they're thinking about signing Zac (High School Musical) Efron to play Speed Racer.

I heard that Andrew Seely is actually going to be doing all the driving, but Efron's going to get all the credit. ZING!
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Postby LaDracul on Fri Mar 16, 2007 12:07 pm

If this does well, I'm thinking that they'll get going on "Death Note" and "Monster" next.

Even if both of those mangas have some pretty heavy content.
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Postby walterjack on Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:04 am

I'm mixed on Speed Racer. I remember it was, as possibly for many of us, my introduction to Anime, back when American cartoons in the 70's sucked.

Remember all the lousy Hanna Barbara crap? The Laff-a-lympics?!?! AhhhH!!!!

But, when you look back at Speed Racer as an adult, you realize how stupid it was most of the time, with the exception of the occasional cool bit of animation.

After all, it was pretty much the same story each episode...

1) Speed wants to enter a race.
2) Pop says it's too dangerous
3) Spridle and Chim-Chim end up in the trunk.
4) Before the race, Speed bumps into the mysterious Racer X and ponders if he is good or evil. Racer X has a Voice over about protecting Speed, who is his younger brother.
5) Some major villians turn up, and are: a) cheating to win the race b) using the race to commit a crime c) are out to get Speed or Racer X.
6) The race happens and lots of other drivers end up fiery wrecks that would kill the normal driver.
7) It becomes a duel between Speed and Racer X, and the villians.
8) Racer X sacrfices winning, so Speed can win or vanquish the villians or both.

Oh and Spridle and Chim-chim in the trunk end up putting a couple of gags over on the bad guys on the way...

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Postby Tyrone_Shoelaces on Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:05 am

I think that was the treatment the Ws turned in, verbatim. I'm looking forward to this. Fast cars!
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Postby Bob Samonkey on Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:38 am

I liked the Laff-a-lympics...:(
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Postby LaDracul on Sun Mar 18, 2007 10:44 am

Well, I think it was just that and "Battle of the Planets" (Which I still think influenced POTP somehow...) in the '70s, but I'm more intrigued by the live-action stuff. Mainly the Sid and Marty Krofftt ones.

So while waiting for the Will Ferrell and Kirsten Dunst "Land of the Lost" comedy, "H.R. Pufnstuf" to get out of development hell, and that preschool-aimed "Bugaloos" series (Hey, better than the idea to have most of N'SYNC involved) to be made, I'm thinking there has to be a "Bigfoot and Wildboy" movie with Ed Speleers as Wildboy, Vanessa Anne Hudgens as the girl, and Shaq as Bigfoot. Hell, it would be more diginified than "KAZAAM!". XD
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Postby burlivesleftnut on Sun Mar 18, 2007 10:52 am

walterjack wrote:I'm mixed on Speed Racer. I remember it was, as possibly for many of us, my introduction to Anime, back when American cartoons in the 70's sucked.

Remember all the lousy Hanna Barbara crap? The Laff-a-lympics?!?! AhhhH!!!!

But, when you look back at Speed Racer as an adult, you realize how stupid it was most of the time, with the exception of the occasional cool bit of animation.

After all, it was pretty much the same story each episode...

1) Speed wants to enter a race.
2) Pop says it's too dangerous
3) Spridle and Chim-Chim end up in the trunk.
4) Before the race, Speed bumps into the mysterious Racer X and ponders if he is good or evil. Racer X has a Voice over about protecting Speed, who is his younger brother.
5) Some major villians turn up, and are: a) cheating to win the race b) using the race to commit a crime c) are out to get Speed or Racer X.
6) The race happens and lots of other drivers end up fiery wrecks that would kill the normal driver.
7) It becomes a duel between Speed and Racer X, and the villians.
8) Racer X sacrfices winning, so Speed can win or vanquish the villians or both.

Oh and Spridle and Chim-chim in the trunk end up putting a couple of gags over on the bad guys on the way...

JC


You are not wrong, but that was spread out over a bunch of episodes, so yes it did seem repititive. Seeing it once on the big screen will inspire feelings of nostalgia in people who are less anal and analytical than us.

Besides, Speed Racer (the toon) had one of the coolest scenes of any cartoon ever. I have probably brought this up before, but there is one episode where Speed and Trixie are confronting some villain at his posh middle eastern hotel. And anyway, Speed pisses the dude off and the villain calls on EVERY EMPLOYEE in the hotel to pull out their weapons and kill Speed and Trixie. So all the employees stop what they are doing and pull MACHINE GUNS and shit from their food delivery trays and maid carts and go on a rampage. Now that's a scene I would like included in this movie.
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Postby DinoDeLaurentiis on Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:27 am

burlivesleftnut wrote:So all the employees stop what they are doing and pull MACHINE GUNS and shit from their food delivery trays and maid carts and go on a rampage. Now that's a scene I would like included in this movie.


It's a the scenes like a this that could a make a this a the blast of a the picture, no? Iffa it's done inna the right vein, eh?

The problem is, they're prolly gonna to aim it atta the kiddies anna have a the CGI monkey. It's alla about a the tie-ins, no?
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Postby Peven on Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:31 am

Bob Poopflingius Maximus wrote:I liked the Laff-a-lympics...:(


same here. Go Yogis!!!
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Postby Peven on Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:38 am

LaDracul wrote:
So while waiting for the Will Ferrell and Kirsten Dunst "Land of the Lost" comedy,..



wtf?? NOOOOO!!!! not a comedy!!! if they make that i want to done straight. that show used to creep me the fuck out as a kid. fucking if handled by someone with a little intelligence they could make a "Land of the Lost" movie be a legit adventure/monster movie. people complain about stuff being watered down for a PG-13 rating, but that show was made for a big screen PG-13, imo.
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Postby burlivesleftnut on Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:42 am

DinoDeLaurentiis wrote:
burlivesleftnut wrote:So all the employees stop what they are doing and pull MACHINE GUNS and shit from their food delivery trays and maid carts and go on a rampage. Now that's a scene I would like included in this movie.


It's a the scenes like a this that could a make a this a the blast of a the picture, no? Iffa it's done inna the right vein, eh?

The problem is, they're prolly gonna to aim it atta the kiddies anna have a the CGI monkey. It's alla about a the tie-ins, no?


I don't follow. The scene I mentioned is FROM a cartoon for kids. It was still suspenseful and fun. It's not like I am advocating CHANGING the scene so it more closely resembles the Lobby Shoot-out from the Matrix.
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Postby Peven on Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:52 am

any guesses as to what episode(s) they are going to use as inspiration for the movie? any preferences? Burl already stated one of his. me, one scene that always stuck with me was the one where they were racing through a jungle, jumping across a piranha infested river, and one of the cars doesn't make it, and it shows the the piranha attack, and then the dudes flesh-stripped skeleton sinking to the river-bottom.
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Postby burlivesleftnut on Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:56 am

I remember an episode where Speed had to jump some really big gorge and Trixie had a dream that he didn't make it and he turned into some kind of LIZARD-DEMON!

I really hope they include the Car Acrobatic Team. If you don't remember, the Car Acrobatic Team, they were a group of villainous racers who could, get this, STACK THEIR CARS ON TOP OF EACH OTHER during a race.
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Postby DinoDeLaurentiis on Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:57 am

burlivesleftnut wrote:I don't follow. The scene I mentioned is FROM a cartoon for kids. It was still suspenseful and fun. It's not like I am advocating CHANGING the scene so it more closely resembles the Lobby Shoot-out from the Matrix.


Yes, but that was from a the Japanese show for a the kids back inna the day, eh? Anna nobody inna this a country, they pay attention a to the content way back a then... it was a not unna'til a the 80s that a the concerned groups, they start a to watch a the violence inna the cartoons for a the kids, anna even a then, it was a like a the Looney Toons anna G.I. Joe anna such.

Prolly the closes thing inna the America was a the Jonny Quest, no? You hadda the guns anna bullets anna the actual deaths, although I believe a the show, she debuted inna the primetime, eh?
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Postby burlivesleftnut on Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:59 am

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Postby Peven on Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:04 pm

burlivesleftnut wrote:I remember an episode where Speed had to jump some really big gorge and Trixie had a dream that he didn't make it and he turned into some kind of LIZARD-DEMON!

I really hope they include the Car Acrobatic Team. If you don't remember, the Car Acrobatic Team, they were a group of villainous racers who could, get this, STACK THEIR CARS ON TOP OF EACH OTHER during a race.


they need to include the over-the-top stuff like that to capture the spirit of the cartoon. for starters, if they don't give is car jumping abilities, along with that cool sound effect, the movie will be missing something vital.
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Postby burlivesleftnut on Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:06 pm

Peven wrote:
burlivesleftnut wrote:I remember an episode where Speed had to jump some really big gorge and Trixie had a dream that he didn't make it and he turned into some kind of LIZARD-DEMON!

I really hope they include the Car Acrobatic Team. If you don't remember, the Car Acrobatic Team, they were a group of villainous racers who could, get this, STACK THEIR CARS ON TOP OF EACH OTHER during a race.


they need to include the over-the-top stuff like that to capture the spirit of the cartoon. for starters, if they don't give is car jumping abilities, along with that cool sound effect, the movie will be missing something vital.


Definitely. The car needs saw blades, people. When you see that you wonder why saw blades aren't included on EVERY car made.

Or... I'm sorry Dino... is that TOO GRAPHIC for children?
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