Fievel wrote: Fuck 'em both.
TheBaxter wrote:i don't get what's the big deal about dicaprio, i keep hearing about it but when i finally saw it it was nothing. she bumped him, he jerked away with a surprised look, and the world kept spinning. it's not even like he knew who bumped him at first, he just flinched like anyone would if someone bumped them from behind. it could have been kathy griffin for all he knew. and as for his laughing: first of all, it's the golden globes, everyone's drunk to begin with. and it's a stretch to think he was laughing at anything related to lady gaga, maybe someone at his table just happened to make a joke at that very moment.
so sorry wrote:JLaw looked damned fine
Fried Gold wrote:You're supposed to call this thread "OSKAHS 2016" by the way.
Ribbons wrote:Fried Gold wrote:You're supposed to call this thread "OSKAHS 2016" by the way.
Fixed
Ribbons wrote:Yeah, and they can't say there was a lack of good roles this time. Michael B. Jordan, Idris Elba and Benicio del Toro all could have and should have been nominated. But like you say, this is what happens when old white dudes cast most of the votes.
Spandau Belly wrote:The general "snubbing" of SICARIO really surprises me, but I am especially surprised by Benicio del Toro in being omitted. I'm not just saying this because I really liked the film. I don't expect to see my own personal tastes reflected 100% in these types of award show thingies. It's just that SICARIO seemed like the perfect Oscar picture. Prestige cast. Topical subject matter. Flawless technical execution. Accessibly entertaining with enough action stuff. Serious tone to the drama stuff. Yadda yadda yadda.
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:I kinda qestion when the non-colour nommeed artists bashers come out every year when there aren't enough black names on the list. I mean, maybe those people just weren't, you know, that good? Or suitable for the Oscar list? Or it was down to some other unfair political reason not attributed to colour? I read that Creed wasn't pushed that hard in the 'For you consideration' campaign for one reason.
so sorry wrote:Perhaps the oscar nominees are just better.
Maui wrote:I saw Creed today. Sly is good in this however I'm not sure he deserves all this fuss right now about his performance. Parts of this film are downright corny.
caruso_stalker217 wrote:Maui wrote:I saw Creed today. Sly is good in this however I'm not sure he deserves all this fuss right now about his performance. Parts of this film are downright corny.
Have you never seen a ROCKY picture? They all have a bit of a cornball quality. It's part of the charm.
The one part that stood out as a bit cheesy for me was when Michael B. Jordan runs with the dirt bike kids and then starts jumping up and down and yelling for five minutes for no particular reason. That was a bit odd.
caruso_stalker217 wrote:Maui wrote:I saw Creed today. Sly is good in this however I'm not sure he deserves all this fuss right now about his performance. Parts of this film are downright corny.
Have you never seen a ROCKY picture? They all have a bit of a cornball quality. It's part of the charm.
The one part that stood out as a bit cheesy for me was when Michael B. Jordan runs with the dirt bike kids and then starts jumping up and down and yelling for five minutes for no particular reason. That was a bit odd.
Fievel wrote:Janet Hubert (aka the original Aunt Viv on The Fresh Prince of Bel Air) Rips the shit out of Jada Pinket Smith regarding her demand that blacks boycott the Oscars:
so sorry wrote:Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:I kinda qestion when the non-colour nommeed artists bashers come out every year when there aren't enough black names on the list. I mean, maybe those people just weren't, you know, that good? Or suitable for the Oscar list? Or it was down to some other unfair political reason not attributed to colour? I read that Creed wasn't pushed that hard in the 'For you consideration' campaign for one reason.
Yeah I kinda agree with this sentiment. Perhaps the oscar nominees are just better.
Here in the States, in our football league, there is a rule about hiring coaches: when a coaching position becomes available, that particular team MUST interview at least one "minority" coaching candidate. Doesn't matter if that candidate is actually qualified, it must be done. Its ridiculous actually. There have been plenty of successful minority coaches in our league that have earned their jobs based on performance, not color-requirements. Same should apply to the Oscars, and obviously on a much broader level, to every profession.
Fried Gold wrote:If you look at the MPAA's own marketing stats -
Frequent moviegoers by race:
Caucasian: 56%
Black: 10%
Hispanic: 25%
Other minority: 9%
That first group go to the movies the most, so they are the target audience and market for the vast majority of movies produced.
You will likely get (a) more white people starring in movies and (b) more white people working in the industry over time - hence more white people likely to get nominated at things like the Oscars.
It is racial problem? Yes, partly. A socio-economic problem too. However, it's more of a business strategy on the part of a industry which aims to make money. In the same way you tend not to see many white people in Bollywood movies or in Chinese movies, they make them based on what they think their target market wants.
If you'd you'd like to see the movie industry change the way it casts women, you change the source of the industry's income by changing the viewing audience's demographics. Make movies with female leads more profitable than movies with male leads and you'll see an increase of movies with female leads.
In fact, now that South-East Asia is a far bigger target audience you're likely to see more actors emerging from that sector. And with the US demographic shifting toward a greater hispanic population, you'll probably find movies shifting there too.
Because money.
Fried Gold wrote:If you look at the MPAA's own marketing stats -
Frequent moviegoers by race:
Caucasian: 56%
Black: 10%
Hispanic: 25%
Other minority: 9%
That first group go to the movies the most, so they are the target audience and market for the vast majority of movies produced.
You will likely get (a) more white people starring in movies and (b) more white people working in the industry over time - hence more white people likely to get nominated at things like the Oscars.
It is racial problem? Yes, partly. A socio-economic problem too. However, it's more of a business strategy on the part of a industry which aims to make money. In the same way you tend not to see many white people in Bollywood movies or in Chinese movies, they make them based on what they think their target market wants.
If you'd you'd like to see the movie industry change the way it casts women, you change the source of the industry's income by changing the viewing audience's demographics. Make movies with female leads more profitable than movies with male leads and you'll see an increase of movies with female leads.
In fact, now that South-East Asia is a far bigger target audience you're likely to see more actors emerging from that sector. And with the US demographic shifting toward a greater hispanic population, you'll probably find movies shifting there too.
Because money.
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:Well us chinks are so uncharismatic we only get as high as being EXTRAS!!! That's 'cos we're UGLYYYY!!!!
Al Shut wrote:To have this whole discussion over something so subjective as nominations for acting awards is kinda moot.
My biggest nightmare is someday the the male and female categories will be rolled together and the whole issue will be potentiated by x.
TheBaxter wrote:Al Shut wrote:To have this whole discussion over something so subjective as nominations for acting awards is kinda moot.
My biggest nightmare is someday the the male and female categories will be rolled together and the whole issue will be potentiated by x.
just wait til the first hermaphrodite nominee is announced, then things will get REALLY confusing.
Ribbons wrote:"Where's the fucking problem!?" You stay classy, Anonymous.
Ribbons wrote:"Where's the fucking problem!?" You stay classy, Anonymous.
Fried Gold wrote:Ribbons wrote:You stay classy, Anonymous.
You can have The Economist version instead - http://www.economist.com/blogs/prospero ... m-and-race
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