Contrary/Cuntrary To Popular Opinion...

[Chilli]

Oh, I get that. I also get its technically superb. But the film never worked for me beyond the visuals, and popular opinion has it as this masterful film filled with subtext.

[WinslowLeach]

I think the best films are the ones that just pull you in and mesmerize you, regardless of the messages/subtext hidden in them. You can really dissect alot of films and find that kind of stuff if you try, but I never put films with those things above movies that I just love because I love them. If that makes sense.

Kubricks films may have truckloads of hidden meanings and subtext, but if they just dont connect with me, it doesnt matter.

One filmmaker I love more than Kubrick is Woody Allen. I really cherish his movies. Theyre so great to me.

[papalazeru]

Contrary to public opinion.....

I like Kirk.

[Fievel]

I find Deep Impact to be a very good disaster film whereas Armageddon is simply an inflated turd of epic proportions.
At least Deep Impact had the balls to actually have destruction on Earth. Mayhem rules. But then, as President Morgan Freeman pointed out, the waters receded.

[papalazeru]

I find Deep Impact to be a very good disaster film whereas Armageddon is simply an inflated turd of epic proportions.
At least Deep Impact had the balls to actually have destruction on Earth. Mayhem rules. But then, as President Morgan Freeman pointed out, the waters receded.

Yes. OH YES!!


Thank god there is another believer.

[Seppuku]

I respect Alien technically, but I found it a ridiculously unenjoyable experience to watch. Same with Blade Runner. I can't fault the visuals, but I can fault the fact that both films (to me at least) seem examples of style over any substance, with annoying critics who keep trying to throw subtext into them.

I'd put The Fountain above both of them, a film that (for me) manages to have style and substance, along with awesome visuals. Shit, this'll get hate but I'd put Alien IV above Alien. Not as a better made film, but as an entertaining experience.

For the first time in two years I'm putting aside the "No hate just debate" rule, to point this out as one of the most ridiculous things ever posted on The Zone.

Hahaha! Seconded.

I'm surprised Chilli hasn't brought up Domino yet.

This thread, she make a the Sepp sad, no?

[Fievel]

I find Deep Impact to be a very good disaster film whereas Armageddon is simply an inflated turd of epic proportions.
At least Deep Impact had the balls to actually have destruction on Earth. Mayhem rules. But then, as President Morgan Freeman pointed out, the waters receded.

Yes. OH YES!!


Thank god there is another believer.

Praise be to Tea Leoni and the giant wave - a scene that has more emotion than Ben & Bruce's I-Love-You-fest could ever dream of.

[Chilli]

My bad, didn't mean to go against popular opinion.









Wait a second.... 8)

[darkjedijaina]

I find Deep Impact to be a very good disaster film whereas Armageddon is simply an inflated turd of epic proportions.
At least Deep Impact had the balls to actually have destruction on Earth. Mayhem rules. But then, as President Morgan Freeman pointed out, the waters receded.

Yes. OH YES!!


Thank god there is another believer.

Haha. I liked both movies, but did enjoy the destruction in Deep Impact as well.

[Cpt Kirks 2pay]

NGYAHAHAHAAA!!!!!!!

Contrary to public opinion.....

Up until Batman Begins, I think that Batman and Robin was the best thing to happen to the Batmovies.

I also don't think that The Bridge on the River Kwai was all that good either.

[Nordling]

Don't get me wrong. I love Kubrick, for the most part. DR. STRANGELOVE is still the greatest satire ever made.

I just hate what he did to THE SHINING. He turned a tragic American novel into something... else. I can't really explain what he did to it, plus, he took out the scary.

[WinslowLeach]

Cappy: Bridge on The River.....zzzzzzzzzzzz

[Cpt Kirks 2pay]

I find Deep Impact to be a very good disaster film whereas Armageddon is simply an inflated turd of epic proportions.
At least Deep Impact had the balls to actually have destruction on Earth. Mayhem rules. But then, as President Morgan Freeman pointed out, the waters receded.

Yes. OH YES!!


Thank god there is another believer.

Praise be to Tea Leoni and the giant wave - a scene that has more emotion than Ben & Bruce's I-Love-You-fest could ever dream of.

I still can't believe the amount of people here that admit to crying over those Ben-Bruce-Tyler goodbye scenes in that piece of shit film. Expecially when audiences at early screenings of it were LAUGHING at those bits!

Then again, Tea Leoni was an annoying borebag that had that wave coming, especially as she was so stupid to go running TOWARDS it!!!! Wipe her out wave, wipe

her

out.

All of them.

[Fievel]

Wipe her out wave, wipe

her

out.

All of them.

Cue Darth Dino....

[Cpt Kirks 2pay]

Cappy: Bridge on The River.....zzzzzzzzzzzz

B.. b... but it's widely regarded unanimously by stuck up know it all critics as one of the best movies of all time evaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!

OH NO!!! What is wrong with us!!!??? We must be really stupid!!!

[Seppuku]

Gah! If Kubrick wasn't enough, now you people have to start targetting Lean!

Contrary to public opinion, I think people should be prescribed Ritalin at birth.

OK, I've got one that's worse than Chilli liking Domino and disliking Alien:

I prefer Escape From LA to Escape From NY!

[darkjedijaina]

Cappy: Bridge on The River.....zzzzzzzzzzzz

B.. b... but it's widely regarded unanimously by stuck up know it all critics as one of the best movies of all time evaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!

OH NO!!! What is wrong with us!!!??? We must be really stupid!!!

haha. I liked Bridge. But, it was rather boring. Not something I'd watch again.

[Chilli]

OK, I've got one that's worse than Chilli liking Domino and disliking Alien:

Okay...

First of all, I've praised Alien for how its made. Its a beautiful looking film. But if I don't buy into the story or the characters, I don't see how I can view it as anything other than a disappointment.

Secondly, Domino is a fucking car crash film. No depth whatsoever, but its just stupid enough and just whacky enough to be enjoyable.

Finally, I enjoyed Daredevil more than I enjoyed Spider-Man (not Spider-Man II mind, that rocked.)

[Seppuku]

OK, I've got one that's worse than Chilli liking Domino and disliking Alien:

Okay...

First of all, I've praised Alien for how its made. Its a beautiful looking film. But if I don't buy into the story or the characters, I don't see how I can view it as anything other than a disappointment.

Secondly, Domino is a fucking car crash film. No depth whatsoever, but its just stupid enough and just whacky enough to be enjoyable.

Finally, I enjoyed Daredevil more than I enjoyed Spider-Man (not Spider-Man II mind, that rocked.)

Sorry Chilli me old China, I was just using you as an example.

[minstrel]

Cappy: Bridge on The River.....zzzzzzzzzzzz

B.. b... but it's widely regarded unanimously by stuck up know it all critics as one of the best movies of all time evaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!

OH NO!!! What is wrong with us!!!??? We must be really stupid!!!

haha. I liked Bridge. But, it was rather boring. Not something I'd watch again.

Bridge on the River Kwai is great. I've seen it about a dozen times and it's still great.

Lawrence of Arabia drags in spots, though. Especially in the second half.

[LaDracul]

I didn't like "H@rry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban" as much as everyone else does. Why? Cuaron just changed too much. Tom the innkeeper was not a creepy hunchback. Why did they get Dawny French to be the studly Lady in the Pink Dress when they already had her as an established character? I can understand there's probably a reason for Flitwick looking younger (I'm thinking he had a midlife crisis and decided to make himself look a few hundred years younger), but why do that to characters we already knew from the first two films? And moving the gift of the Nimbus 2000 to the end? That was one of the main points of the book, to have us wonder if Sirius could be trusted.

It's an ok film, but really, I just didn't like all the continuity changes.

[Chilli]

I know, but I have to defend my stupid opinions.

And I agree with you on EFLA. EFNY had better acting, EFLA seemed to have a better pacing.

[darkjedijaina]

I know, but I have to defend my stupid opinions.

And I agree with you on EFLA. EFNY had better acting, EFLA seemed to have a better pacing.

and the Surgeon General...

[Chilli]

Damn straight. Campbell is key.

I actually prefer Army Of Darkness (see how I've changed, I didn't call it Evil Dead III) to the other two. Happened recently, but I like the insanity of the concept.

[Seppuku]

I prefer Red Sonja to Conan The Barbarian!

Naw, just shittin' ya...

I'd have had to have posted that in the Losing a Your Geek Cred, anyway.

Let me think of a real example... I know I can be quite the contrarian bastard sometimes (speaking of which, why hasn't Peven shown up yet, this thread was made for him).

Erm...I think Last House on the Left was Wes Craven's best film.

[minstrel]

I hate hate HATE HATE anime. All of it, except maybe Tezuka's stuff.

Dragon Ball Z is just ... just ... horrible.

[WinslowLeach]

[Seppuku]

I hate hate HATE HATE anime. All of it, except maybe Tezuka's stuff.

Dragon Ball Z is just ... just ... horrible.

Even Grave of the Fireflies?



(Translated that reads: "Why don't you love me? I think squirrels are cute and cuggly.")

[minstrel]

I hate hate HATE HATE anime. All of it, except maybe Tezuka's stuff.

Dragon Ball Z is just ... just ... horrible.

Even Grave of the Fireflies?

Never seen it. I've heard about it, and it sounds very depressing.

I don't go looking for anime because I hate it. But my roomie has friends who are totally into it, and they used to come over to our place a lot, bringing anime (I'm talking Japanese stuff - stuff that's never been dubbed into English) to watch on our big-screen TV with the volume turned waaaay up WHILE I'M TRYING TO WORK!!!

Ugh. Torture.

[godzillasushi]

Back to the Future 2 is better than Back to the Future 3.

The more I watch 3, the more a sense of whatever, ho humness I get from it. Merely enjoyable. All the wanker critics sight it so highly it seems, partially 'cos it homages Westerns, f*rk off!!!

2 on the other hand, yeah it doesn't have the enjoyable lightness of character spark that 3 has, but the complexity, the cleverness, how they've wringed out all the potential out of it's premise of time travelling back and forth, all those elements overlapping each other and how much of an ongoing spreading complication it makes, plus that it isn't afraid to turn this episide dark and make it more sinister as well, well it's just a far more rewarding movie than 3. These are Time Travel movies, and I just think that working on this level, 2 is the better of all 3 of them, based on this angle.

3 is mostly trying to be a lame western.

Yea that's funny because you are wrong. I can tell you don't know enough on the subject so just sit back and relax. 2Pay is wrong folks. 2Pay is wrong. It's not Ellen Page quality, but the third movie is the most entertaining and fun. You can sit back and enjoy it. These critics probably know a thing or two. THAT's why they are critics. Because they know good movies when they see them. And critics like homages. Homages are like critic energy drinks. But I don't hold you being wrong against you.

It actually WAS trying to be a lame western though!

[Seppuku]

I hate hate HATE HATE anime. All of it, except maybe Tezuka's stuff.

Dragon Ball Z is just ... just ... horrible.

Even Grave of the Fireflies?

Never seen it. I've heard about it, and it sounds very depressing.

I don't go looking for anime because I hate it. But my roomie has friends who are totally into it, and they used to come over to our place a lot, bringing anime (I'm talking Japanese stuff - stuff that's never been dubbed into English) to watch on our big-screen TV with the volume turned waaaay up WHILE I'M TRYING TO WORK!!!

Ugh. Torture.

Fair enough. This I can understand. I also know people who start to get a little sick after watching too much anime due to the low frame-rate.

Still, it's a medium for telling stories. It has its peaks and troughs like any other.

[Vegeta]

I hate hate HATE HATE anime. All of it, except maybe Tezuka's stuff.

Dragon Ball Z is just ... just ... horrible.

Why, I've never been so insulted in all my life...


You know what... contrary to popular belief... I hate squirrels!
Sure, I just pretended to enjoy their bouncy cute ways, but really I loathe squirrels.






























With the exception of minstrel and SSG of course.

[Fievel]

Back to the Future 2 is better than Back to the Future 3.

The more I watch 3, the more a sense of whatever, ho humness I get from it. Merely enjoyable. All the wanker critics sight it so highly it seems, partially 'cos it homages Westerns, f*rk off!!!

2 on the other hand, yeah it doesn't have the enjoyable lightness of character spark that 3 has, but the complexity, the cleverness, how they've wringed out all the potential out of it's premise of time travelling back and forth, all those elements overlapping each other and how much of an ongoing spreading complication it makes, plus that it isn't afraid to turn this episide dark and make it more sinister as well, well it's just a far more rewarding movie than 3. These are Time Travel movies, and I just think that working on this level, 2 is the better of all 3 of them, based on this angle.

3 is mostly trying to be a lame western.

Yea that's funny because you are wrong. I can tell you don't know enough on the subject so just sit back and relax. 2Pay is wrong folks. 2Pay is wrong. It's not Ellen Page quality, but the third movie is the most entertaining and fun. You can sit back and enjoy it. These critics probably know a thing or two. THAT's why they are critics. Because they know good movies when they see them. And critics like homages. Homages are like critic energy drinks. But I don't hold you being wrong against you.

It actually WAS trying to be a lame western though!

I hate BTTF3.
It had absolutely none of what sucked me into the series in the first two films. The lame western bit was all it had. The fish-out-of-water bits were hokey at best. The new characters, okay just Mary Steenburgen's character were grating. It just wasn't fun for me.
The first movie presented the magic of time travel and showed some consequences of it as well. The second film showed the absolute dark consequences of it. The third film.......... showed that people will buy anything for a dollar.

[Nordling]

Depends on the anime, but for the most part, it's just not good.

[Fievel]

I hate hate HATE HATE anime. All of it, except maybe Tezuka's stuff.

Dragon Ball Z is just ... just ... horrible.

Even Grave of the Fireflies?

Never seen it. I've heard about it, and it sounds very depressing.

I don't go looking for anime because I hate it. But my roomie has friends who are totally into it, and they used to come over to our place a lot, bringing anime (I'm talking Japanese stuff - stuff that's never been dubbed into English) to watch on our big-screen TV with the volume turned waaaay up WHILE I'M TRYING TO WORK!!!

Ugh. Torture.

Minstrel, you were just abused by anime long before you ever had a chance to enjoy it. There just as many sub-categories in anime as there are in live-action films. I love science fiction and horror anime, but that's really about it. There are some seriously cool and even thought provoking films out there that fall under the "anime" moniker.
Don't let your roomie's disservice to you forever scar your impressions of the genre.

[LaDracul]

I hate hate HATE HATE anime. All of it, except maybe Tezuka's stuff.

Dragon Ball Z is just ... just ... horrible.

But can you hate an anime with a squirrel that electrocutes people?





Yeah, you'd be pissed off too if you spent a half hour on your hair only to be electrocuted.

[Lord Voldemoo]

Contrary to popular opinion I find The Mummy (1999 version, written/directed by Stephen Sommers...yes, Sommers) to be a fantastically fun adventure movie in the spirit of Indiana Jones.

I should be posting this in the guilty pleasures thread.

[darkjedijaina]

Contrary to popular opinion I find The Mummy (1999 version, written/directed by Stephen Sommers...yes, Sommers) to be a fantastically fun adventure movie in the spirit of Indiana Jones.

I should be posting this in the guilty pleasures thread.

people didn't like The Mummy?!

[minstrel]

I thought The Mummy was a lot of fun, too. And Brendan Fraser did a great job.

[godzillasushi]

I hate BTTF3.

So you are one of Kirk's alts then. That explains it....





Well I don't like 90% of Pixar movies. I put Toy Story and the wonderful Ratatouille above everything else animated. And you know what, I like Surf's Up even more then those other Pixar movies. Not that Pixar aren't great story tellers but most of the time their stuff doesn't click with me.

Alien IV over Alien Chilli? Seriously?

I like Ocean's Twelve more then Eleven and Thirteen. I like it's style. It's a different movie in ever way.

I think Kill Bill will be the best thing QT ever does and nothing will/has ever come close.

And Planet Terror is much better then Death Proof IMO.

Phone Booth was a good movie...

Fellowship of the Ring was a boring movie.

Shrek is awful.

[Lord Voldemoo]

Fellowship of the Ring was a boring movie.

I like how you slipped that in toward the end. Heheheh.

GEEK MINIONS....DESTROY HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Theta]

Well, let's see:

I think Kubrick was overrated in some respects. Sometimes his coldness really worked (2001, Clockwork Orange, Full Metal Jacket), sometimes it didn't (The Shining, Eyes Wide Shut, Lolita). Either way, not the mega-genius he was made out to be.

I think Fellini before he became internationally famous was a superb filmmaker. I think after he fell into the ego trap and became a completely insufferable filmmaker.

And I fucking hate every Goddard movie I've had to sit through, with the exception of "Weekend."

[DaleTremont]

Well I don't like 90% of Pixar movies. I put Toy Story and the wonderful Ratatouille above everything else animated. And you know what, I like Surf's Up even more then those other Pixar movies. Not that Pixar aren't great story tellers but most of the time their stuff doesn't click with me.

I like Ocean's Twelve more then Eleven and Thirteen. I like it's style. It's a different movie in ever way.

And Planet Terror is much better then Death Proof IMO.

Phone Booth was a good movie...

Fellowship of the Ring was a boring movie.

To borrow from Maui:

GO SIT IN THE CORNER!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And Domino is a good fucking movie!!!!! I'm shouting myself hoarse about it! Ever since tapehead lent me his special edition DVD version I've been hooked!!! And I won't apologize! Or do the face!!!!

[darkjedijaina]

i'm a little confused because you like Phone Booth, yet call FOTR boring. to me, Phone Booth was boring.

[DinoDeLaurentiis]

I can understand there's probably a reason for Flitwick looking younger (I'm thinking he had a midlife crisis and decided to make himself look a few hundred years younger),

The Dino, he alla'ways a wondered about a that too, eh? My guess is a that a the make-up inna the first 2 pictures, she just a dinna look a real, eh? It was a like a the little midget inna the mask, no? But holy crappa, they went anna made a him look a like a the little Hitler or a something for a the rest of a the series? I donna get it, eh?

[DinoDeLaurentiis]

First of all, I've praised Alien for how its made. Its a beautiful looking film. But if I don't buy into the story or the characters, I don't see how I can view it as anything other than a disappointment.

That's a the shocking thing a to me, eh? Holy crappa, iffa they did a nothing else with a the picture, they set uppa the story anna the characters, no? How could a you say you dinna buy inna'to it??

[thomasgaffney]

I like Ocean's Twelve more then Eleven and Thirteen. I like it's style. It's a different movie in ever way.

If by "different" you mean "more sucky" then I agree. O12 had Julia Roberts playing Tess Ocean, impersonating Julia Roberts. I wanted to beat the script writers over the head with my shoe.

I think Kill Bill will be the best thing QT ever does and nothing will/has ever come close.

I think that no other QT movies will come close to the SUCKINESS of KB1. Talk about boring. The man thinks too highly of his ability to write dialogue. When it's good it's good. When it's KB1 bad, it's atrocious...

[Chilli]

Alien IV over Alien Chilli? Seriously?

In terms of enjoyment, yes. Not in terms of directorial quality. I just happened to enjoy the car-crash elements of Alien IV, whereas Alien was just really dull to watch.

[Chilli]

First of all, I've praised Alien for how its made. Its a beautiful looking film. But if I don't buy into the story or the characters, I don't see how I can view it as anything other than a disappointment.

That's a the shocking thing a to me, eh? Holy crappa, iffa they did a nothing else with a the picture, they set uppa the story anna the characters, no? How could a you say you dinna buy inna'to it??

Because I didn't. I never felt like I was being given a reason to care about any of them. Maybe I'd think differently if I watched it now, but I can only go by the last time I saw it, and I just didn't care about them or their situation.

Course, I said that about Jaws once, and now I love that film.

[thomasgaffney]

Contrary to popular opinion (especially the opinion of the Zone), I couldn't get past more than forty minutes of Bubba Ho-Tep when I tried to watch it the other night. GOD, that movie was a boring piece of crap...

I can't remember the last time a movie disappointed me so much.