TonyWilson wrote: HollywoodBabylon wrote:
TonyWilson wrote:Ribbons, no-one else comes into a thread specifically about 1 particular band just to bitch about them. People who go into BSG threads JUST to dump on the show are trolls right? People who go into specific band threads just to dump on the specific and are also trolls.
In my view, anyway.
The idea of any (decent) new post is to respond to the subject of that post expressing whatever opinion you have, either good or bad. The majority of posts on this website, for instance, contain threads and replies that vary tremendously. ie. some make like certain films, books, music, games etc whilst others will criticize them as they see fit.
It's called having a different opinion.
This Radiohead thread is no different. It's not sacrosanct from any form of criticism, why should it be?
You call it 'bitching'. Fair enough.
I'd call it just having a different view. I don't like Radiohead, others worship at their altar. Well, ok, that's our choice. To me, no big deal whatsover.
As for the trolling remark, well I grew out of short trousers a long time ago.
But, hey, that's just my opinion.
Actually HB, I agree with you upto a point. However, lets take Wonderwoman as an example, I don't like the character or the comics and I'm not bothered by the film being made. Seeing as it's something that I have no interest in I don't go in the threads only
about Wonderwoman and bitch/troll that it's a overrated comic about a silly amazonian with an invisible plane.
If it's a thread about what you like or dislike, or whats overrated or underrated than there really isn't a problem with people ripping on Radiohead, however you purposefully posted a message that's ONLY full of unconstructive criticism and dislike for the band (and a personal shot too) in a place where you know there will be lots of Radiohead fans.
Posting a message full of "hate" in a thread full of people who obviously think Radiohead are pretty cool is trolling.
You may have grown out of short trousers, but the rest of you doesn't seem to have caught up.
I wouldn't regard my original post as "full of hate," Tony - I think that's rather a strong reaction to what essentially was a slightly tongue-in-cheek post in the first place. Perhaps some Radiohead fans need to be a little less sensitive, no?
"Unconstructive criticism"? Well, again, that's a matter of opinion. If you think that, that's OK. Perhaps I should have said that Radiohead are an extremely calculating, cold pretentious type of band whose much lauded experimentation is overrated in the extreme. They try just a little TOO hard, methinks. There is no true heart in their music. No soul. Just an continous exercise in musical pretention and intellectualism.
Again, just my thoughts.
As for Thom Yorke - sorry, but I stand by every comment. The man is pretentious incaranate -
forever going on about how difficult , how hard, how gut-wrenching it is every time Radiohead seem to make an album. Please, get real. This is self-indulgence to the point of absurdity, in my eyes. If he feels that way, easy option. Quit the band and stop whingeing.
I know I'm in the minority as regards Radiohead. Many of my friends are huge fans and get overly protective of them when they're criticised. Believe me, I've had many a heated discussion when I've stated my opinion on them (I know what that's like; being a huge Massive Attack fan I'd fight my corner too - and have done!). So, if any Radiohead fans here were geniunely offended or put out by my views, well I regret that. My opinions were certainly not posted just to deliberately 'provoke' or 'antagonize' fans. Rather, just to give a counter view on a subject that was on here in the first place. Nothing more, nothing less. If some think that's 'trolling' well so be it. They're entitled to that view, of course. No matter how wrong I think they are and how meaningless I think the term is anyhow.
Shall we agree to disagree and agree only on the fact that Massive Attack are much superior?