Bayou wrote:Why not give one of the newer "rock" bands a shot. Maybe Hinder or Seether. (just not Nickleback...K, Thx...)
Someone that can pull off a tough guy voice. Something more in line with the way Craig plays the role.
TBH, since Goldeneye, I've become a bored with girls singing the intro. (except Garbage. Shirley Manson could sing the phone book and I'd like it)
Spandau Belly wrote:I realize they're re-inventing Bond or whatever, but I really don't get the use of rock and roll themes. As far as I know, rock isn't even that big a genre right now, so it's not like they're jumping on some obvious trend.
I also thought Mr. White was better than Chris Soundgarden, and that the title sequence in QoS was better, but I'd still rather they keep the themes jazz or at least go with electronic music. Neither the old Bonds nor this Craig guy really seem like rock lovers.
It really broke my heart that Amy Winehouse couldn't get her head out of the toilet long enough to lay down a proper track. She would be my ideal choice for a theme singer. I hope she lives long enough for them to at least flog a third album out of her.
But I think there are a number of artists out there right now with a good jazz-soul sound that could handle it such as Duffy, Bjork, Gnarls Barkley, Christina Aguilera, or even Alicia Keys without Mr. White drowning her out.
burlivesleftnut wrote:Spandau Belly wrote:I realize they're re-inventing Bond or whatever, but I really don't get the use of rock and roll themes. As far as I know, rock isn't even that big a genre right now, so it's not like they're jumping on some obvious trend.
I also thought Mr. White was better than Chris Soundgarden, and that the title sequence in QoS was better, but I'd still rather they keep the themes jazz or at least go with electronic music. Neither the old Bonds nor this Craig guy really seem like rock lovers.
It really broke my heart that Amy Winehouse couldn't get her head out of the toilet long enough to lay down a proper track. She would be my ideal choice for a theme singer. I hope she lives long enough for them to at least flog a third album out of her.
But I think there are a number of artists out there right now with a good jazz-soul sound that could handle it such as Duffy, Bjork, Gnarls Barkley, Christina Aguilera, or even Alicia Keys without Mr. White drowning her out.
No offense, but have you even heard a Bond theme in the last 30 years? They generally reflect music of the era in which the films were produced. And they are generally pop. Even the last two were pop, but with a grindier rock sound. But if you are concerned about them being too "rock" like, then please go and check out Live or Let Die, which is the rockingest of all the bond themes, and one of the best. As for your idea that they are "jazz-soul" I think you are mistaking a certain sweeping production with "jazz-soul". But really the bond themes have run the gamut from pop (For Your Eyes Only, Tomorrow Never Dies) to Blues-Pop (Nobody Does it Better) to dance/pop (Die Another Day) to New Wave/Pop (View to a Kill, Living Daylights) to rock/pop (Quantum of Solace, Live or Let Die). There is no ONE BOND MUSIC GENRE. Just because you can pick and choose which bond themes you respond positively too doesn't mean those bond themes are indicative of what every bond theme should sound like.
burlivesleftnut wrote:No offense, but have you even heard a Bond theme in the last 30 years? They generally reflect music of the era in which the films were produced. And they are generally pop. There is no ONE BOND MUSIC GENRE. Just because you can pick and choose which bond themes you respond positively too doesn't mean those bond themes are indicative of what every bond theme should sound like.
Spandau Belly wrote:it's not like they used Metalicca or Ozzy Osbourne or something back then.
Spandau Belly wrote:Shirley Bassey, Nancy Sinatra, Gladys Knight, Garbage themes than the rock stuff.
In this post from the "What Are You Playing Now?" thread in the Games forum, Spandau Belly wrote:And the soundtrack is good. It's a mix of the types of music that characterize this scene to me: rap, latin, techno, and college rock. It's all pretty unintrusive, so it's more like Crackdown's soundtrack in that you don't feel it's too repetative or annoying. Some of the rock stuff annoys me, but I usually just skip those tracks.
RaulMonkey wrote:In this post from the "What Are You Playing Now?" thread in the Games forum, Spandau Belly wrote:And the soundtrack is good. It's a mix of the types of music that characterize this scene to me: rap, latin, techno, and college rock. It's all pretty unintrusive, so it's more like Crackdown's soundtrack in that you don't feel it's too repetative or annoying. Some of the rock stuff annoys me, but I usually just skip those tracks.
You just don't really like rock in general, do you, SB?
DO you???
burlivesleftnut wrote:And I stand by what I said, even if YOU think Live and Let Die is soft pop rock, at the time it was hardcore. So was Duran Duran's theme.
caruso_stalker217 wrote:burlivesleftnut wrote:And I stand by what I said, even if YOU think Live and Let Die is soft pop rock, at the time it was hardcore. So was Duran Duran's theme.
"A View to a Kill" was hardcore? We're all talking about the same Duran Duran here, right?
Chairman Kaga wrote:Is it that goofy borderline calliope melody in the middle?
tapehead wrote:Caruso is actually much further off base with his 'jazz' comments than those of Burl's regarding 'hard-core'.
tapehead wrote:My mistake Spandeau - and I hear what you're saying Sepp, but it doesn't stand up to scrutiny when you look at the actual bond themes for each of the movies (which I was doing earlier when I mentioned the Bacharach track) - can you mention one which you would categorise as 'jazz'? I don't think I can.
caruso_stalker217 wrote:burlivesleftnut wrote:And I stand by what I said, even if YOU think Live and Let Die is soft pop rock, at the time it was hardcore. So was Duran Duran's theme.
"A View to a Kill" was hardcore? We're all talking about the same Duran Duran here, right?
Seppuku wrote:tapehead wrote:My mistake Spandeau - and I hear what you're saying Sepp, but it doesn't stand up to scrutiny when you look at the actual bond themes for each of the movies (which I was doing earlier when I mentioned the Bacharach track) - can you mention one which you would categorise as 'jazz'? I don't think I can.
Add a y to Jazz maybe.
I don't know why we're all arguing about music with someone named after Spandau Ballet, anyway...
Spandau Belly wrote:And I hope you don't commit seppuku, I hope it's just a ploy for attention like that jumper in Lethal Weapon.
Retardo_Montalban wrote:You guys have to learn to quit nit picking colorful language and discuss the real topic at hand. When burl says "hardcore" he doesn't mean screaming blood metal, he means shit that was considered edgy and fresh at the time of release. Fuck, I'm ALF and I got that. That's the whole argument. Bond themes aren't based on any particular genre, but a mix of the original theme, mixed with what is considered a music form that defines the times and watered down just enough for the masses. Bake and let sit for half and hour then serve. If Spandau somehow thinks that rock music isn't relevant in this time, then he's going to come up against a ton of people who disagree. the same if someone thinks that rock defines these times. Jack White doesn't even really sing rock. He just plays blues music with a lot of distortion and squeals in a high pitched tone because he can't sing all that well. I think Chris Cornell is a good singer, but suffers from Christina Aguillerra disease and ruins songs with vocal gymnastics. Tina Turner's Goldeneye was super awesome though.
caruso_stalker217 wrote:Okay, but I still say Duran Duran were neither edgy nor fresh.
tapehead wrote:caruso_stalker217 wrote:Okay, but I still say Duran Duran were neither edgy nor fresh.
I take it you have never seen the music video for Girls on Film - that shit shocked Mtv back in the day.
Seppuku wrote:For the record, this is the edgiest Bond theme.
Spandau Belly wrote:I guess to me, rock mostly sounds aggressive and angsty and to me, Bond is smooth and cool... I'd rather the songs reflect Bond's debonaire side than his deep brooding.
Spandau Belly wrote:I think the names of different genres are used in different contexts around the world and there's so much crossover and blending as well as artists who perform in multiple genres. I guess I just don't feel like fighting to the burger with you guys to decide whether Beyonce counts as R&B, hip-hop, hip-pop, soul, or pop.
burlivesleftnut wrote:Personally I think Burl wins this one because he has been alive since 1972 and actually knows most Bond theme songs by heart. Burl also is a lover of music in general, having studied the art at The School of Music at The University of Texas at Austin from 1991 - 1993. He also has no issues with any kind of musical genre, although there are some genre's he does not particular enjoy, he can still recognize those genre's relevance to our rich cultural fabric.
Burl would also like to add that those who make fun of Duran Duran for being toothless and lacking any edge should grow up and realize their musical experience is not definitive. Anyone who went to a Duran Duran concert in the 80s, or happened to be at any club during that decade knows that Duran Duran were definitely one of the more aggressive rock/new wave/pop bands of the era. For comparison, maybe some one could give me a band that crossed so many genres and yet still remained both aggressive and popular to the mainstream.
caruso_stalker217 wrote:Seriously, though, we are talking about THE Duran Duran, right? The British dudes who made music you can dance to?
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