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Only slightly related to the topic, but...

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:02 am
by judderman
does anyone here know what Rupert Murdoch is trying to do to Google, and whether I should be alarmed?

Re: Only slightly related to the topic, but...

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:10 am
by Pacino86845
I've felt for a long time that someone should do something to Google, but I never bothered to think about who or what that should be.

Re: Only slightly related to the topic, but...

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:15 am
by TheBaxter
maybe he is googling google

Re: Only slightly related to the topic, but...

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:29 am
by Fried Gold
judderman wrote:does anyone here know what Rupert Murdoch is trying to do to Google, and whether I should be alarmed?

No, you should not be alarmed.

Basically all his news media properties - The Times, Wall Street Journal, Sky News etc etc etc - are going to be charging for content soon. He doesn't want anything from those sources turning up in Google searches, so those News Carp websites carrying content will block Google from mining for it's Google News page.

This is also apparently been done already with "Myspace TV". Murdoch wants it to be popular like Youtube, so is having any Myspace videos removed from Youtube. What he hasn't realised is that Myspace is out-of-date and Youtube already has the market (even Microsoft has realised this).

Likely result - people will get online news from other places and not pay for News Carp content.

Re: Only slightly related to the topic, but...

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:41 pm
by tapehead
Murdoch has been something of a genius in the marrow realms of the newspaper and television industries, in terms of capitalising on technology and licencing. Depsite some early succes with myspace, that cleverness doesn't seem to be adapting to the internet.

Re: Only slightly related to the topic, but...

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:34 pm
by Fievel
tapehead wrote:Murdoch has been something of a genius in the marrow realms of the newspaper and television industries, in terms of capitalising on technology and licencing. Depsite some early succes with myspace, that cleverness doesn't seem to be adapting to the internet.


Well he does own IGN and all of their sister sites (including Rotten Tomatoes).
That was a pretty smart pickup.

Re: Only slightly related to the topic, but...

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:40 pm
by judderman
Fried Gold wrote:
judderman wrote:does anyone here know what Rupert Murdoch is trying to do to Google, and whether I should be alarmed?

No, you should not be alarmed.

Basically all his news media properties - The Times, Wall Street Journal, Sky News etc etc etc - are going to be charging for content soon. He doesn't want anything from those sources turning up in Google searches, so those News Carp websites carrying content will block Google from mining for it's Google News page.

This is also apparently been done already with "Myspace TV". Murdoch wants it to be popular like Youtube, so is having any Myspace videos removed from Youtube. What he hasn't realised is that Myspace is out-of-date and Youtube already has the market (even Microsoft has realised this).

Likely result - people will get online news from other places and not pay for News Carp content.


God. Can you imagine people paying to read The Sun online? I mean the two things one never finds free on the web are paranoid vitriol and pictures of girls naked.

Re: Only slightly related to the topic, but...

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:44 pm
by Fried Gold
judderman wrote:
Fried Gold wrote:
judderman wrote:does anyone here know what Rupert Murdoch is trying to do to Google, and whether I should be alarmed?

No, you should not be alarmed.

Basically all his news media properties - The Times, Wall Street Journal, Sky News etc etc etc - are going to be charging for content soon. He doesn't want anything from those sources turning up in Google searches, so those News Carp websites carrying content will block Google from mining for it's Google News page.

This is also apparently been done already with "Myspace TV". Murdoch wants it to be popular like Youtube, so is having any Myspace videos removed from Youtube. What he hasn't realised is that Myspace is out-of-date and Youtube already has the market (even Microsoft has realised this).

Likely result - people will get online news from other places and not pay for News Carp content.


God. Can you imagine people paying to read The Sun online? I mean the two things one never finds free on the web are paranoid vitriol and pictures of girls naked.

But where else can you find articles of such calibre as The Sun's?

Re: Only slightly related to the topic, but...

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:59 pm
by judderman
sprayed against the wall after a fight between two incontinent hippos?

Re: Only slightly related to the topic, but...

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:53 pm
by papalazeru
judderman wrote:sprayed against the wall after a fight between two incontinent hippos?


Hapless Hippo's in Hemoglobin Haemorrhage...story on page 6....












With TITS!!!

Re: Only slightly related to the topic, but...

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:38 pm
by justcheckin
I thought I would re-direct you all here...

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=44623

Re: Only slightly related to the topic, but...

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:51 pm
by tapehead
Fievel wrote:
tapehead wrote:Murdoch has been something of a genius in the marrow realms of the newspaper and television industries, in terms of capitalising on technology and licencing. Depsite some early succes with myspace, that cleverness doesn't seem to be adapting to the internet.


Well he does own IGN and all of their sister sites (including Rotten Tomatoes).
That was a pretty smart pickup.


A pretty glib summation on my part, no doubt - but these are acquisitions, whereas he gathered together a newspaper empire and was intrumental in the construction of both the Sky tv network in the UK/Europe/Australia and Fox cable in the US. His speculative attempts at doing something similar on the internet have paled by comparision, in my opinion, due to his inability to see how to make the lionshare profit from it or predict online trends, let alone lead them. The policies that came into play on myspace after he acquired it (especially with regard to music ownership - ask KON) and this kind of proprietary disdain for Google to me exhibit a perspective that either doesn't understand or objects to the interconnectivity of the web, which is integral to it as a medium.

justcheckin wrote:viewtopic.php?f=24&t=44623


Yeah, it's pretty much the same topic, with less emus, but the dicussion has bee quite different so far.

Re: Only slightly related to the topic, but...

PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 4:00 am
by Ribbons
I'm pretty sure he's trying to use Google to invent some sort of space laser

Re: Only slightly related to the topic, but...

PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:41 am
by tapehead
Ribbons wrote:I'm pretty sure he's trying to use Google to invent some sort of space laser



Boeing!

hang on, I think I meant 'Boring!'

no, wait... I meant 'Boing'!

Re: Only slightly related to the topic, but...

PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:57 pm
by TonyWilson
I may hate the military-industrial complex but a space laser would be fucking awesome.

Re: Only slightly related to the topic, but...

PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:53 pm
by Fried Gold
Ribbons wrote:I'm pretty sure he's trying to use Google to invent some sort of space laser

It's actually a giant shield to block out the light from the Sun.

Re: Only slightly related to the topic, but...

PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:57 pm
by minstrel
TonyWilson wrote:I may hate the military-industrial complex but a space laser would be fucking awesome.


See "Real Genius" for an example of just how awesome it would be!

Re: Only slightly related to the topic, but...

PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 4:51 pm
by Fievel
minstrel wrote:
TonyWilson wrote:I may hate the military-industrial complex but a space laser would be fucking awesome.


See "Real Genius" for an example of just how awesome it would be!


All of a sudden, I'm hungry for popcorn....

Re: Only slightly related to the topic, but...

PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 6:17 pm
by justcheckin
Fievel wrote:
minstrel wrote:
TonyWilson wrote:I may hate the military-industrial complex but a space laser would be fucking awesome.


See "Real Genius" for an example of just how awesome it would be!


All of a sudden, I'm hungry for popcorn....


I just saw on the news this morning where a tub of popcorn has 1000 plus calories in it.