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by **HollywoodBabylon** on Sun Apr 30, 2006 1:41 pm

TonyWilson wrote:Nolte

Especially that mug shot of him a couple of years back.

by **AtomicHyperbole** on Sun Apr 30, 2006 1:41 pm

Seconded.

by **TheBaxter** on Sun Apr 30, 2006 1:43 pm

Which actor in film or TV is the most grizzled?

If you don't know what "grizzled" is, check out this SNL sketch

so.. who's more grizzled? enter your nominations below, and when there's enough, i'll post them in a poll.

For starters, an obvious nominee would have to be Clint Eastwood.

by **TonyWilson** on Sun Apr 30, 2006 1:44 pm

Nolte

by **Flumm** on Sun Apr 30, 2006 1:50 pm

Mmm, it's hard to say. Where does old, become grizzled? OK forget that one, that sounds like a bad set up to a bad punch pine.

I think Harry Dean Stanton would have to be on there.

by **Al Shut** on Sun Apr 30, 2006 2:07 pm

Paul Newman a la Nobody's Fool

by **Brocktune** on Sun Apr 30, 2006 2:52 pm

gary busey

sam elliot

jack elam

by **troutpencil** on Sun Apr 30, 2006 2:54 pm

i agree with elliott. he gave cher a moustache ride and he's still manly.

by **Seppuku** on Sun Apr 30, 2006 3:57 pm

It seems a lot of the grizzled vet actors have left this mortal coil the last couple years, I guess they weren't really grizzled enough.

Anyway my nominees are:

Alan Hale
John Huston's dad from Treasure of the Sierra Madre
Warren Oates (only when unshaven, when he goes babyfaced he just looks like Painless from M.A.S.H.)

by **Lady Sheridan** on Sun Apr 30, 2006 4:47 pm

Robert Redford is pretty grizzled, even with that weird eyelift.

by **tapehead** on Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:03 pm

Tom Waits
sounds grizzled
looks grizzled
even in 'Down by Law' and the oldest photos
I've seen of him
I'm willing to bet he was a grizzled baby

by **Nachokoolaid** on Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:25 pm

I'd say Redford is the OPPOSITE of grizzled.

Look up grizzled in the dictionary, and you see this guy:

Clint Fucking (actual middle name) EASTWOOD.

No need for a poll.

by **Bob Samonkey** on Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:37 pm

tapehead wrote:Tom Waits
sounds grizzled
looks grizzled
even in 'Down by Law' and the oldest photos
I've seen of him
I'm willing to bet he was a grizzled baby

seconded

by **Brocktune** on Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:45 pm

i think tom waits actually coined the term "grizzled".

by **Nachokoolaid** on Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:22 pm

Fuck that. Eastwood wipes his grizzled ass with Tom Wait's used razor blades!

by **tapehead** on Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:37 pm

yeah, Wait's' used razor blades
all the better to impart the grizzle
eastwood had a baby-face in
'Every Which Way But Loose'
at least compared to Clyde

by **Kilgore** on Sun Apr 30, 2006 8:06 pm

I agree with everyone submitted for this list so far, save for one:

Brocktune wrote:gary busey

Um, Batshit crazy? Yes. Grizzled? No.

I submit Bruce Dern for your consideration. And James Coburn.

by **Kilgore** on Sun Apr 30, 2006 8:08 pm

And I can't forget Charlton Heston.

Oh, and the last dozen years or so of Kris Kristofferson.

But that's a far cry from Nolte and Elliot, just submitting names for the ballot.

by **tapehead** on Sun Apr 30, 2006 8:21 pm

Lady Sheridan wrote:Robert Redford is pretty grizzled, even with that weird eyelift.

is Mickey Rourke another one who has compromised his grizzliness with cosmetic beautification?

by **Nachokoolaid** on Sun Apr 30, 2006 8:24 pm

Tommy Lee Jones and Lee Marvin deserve mentions. But they both pale compared to Eastwood.

by **MrMadCow13** on Sun Apr 30, 2006 8:28 pm

I have to agree with Nachokooloaid. Clint Eastwood is the most grizzled person to ever walk the face of the earth. He's so grizzled, I guarantee that you could light a much off his face. He wouldn't even flinch.

True story: one time Clint Eastwood was in a military plane that went down near San Francisco Bay and he swam all the way back to shore in the middle of a thunderstorm.

If he were any more grizzled, he would have to be made out of stone.

by **Seppuku** on Sun Apr 30, 2006 8:30 pm

What about Joe Don Baker? He may not have the scraggly beard, but you best believe he's got everything else required to be called a Grizzly Bear.

And one of my favourite actors, Klaus Kinski, wins it for me:

by **wonkabar** on Sun Apr 30, 2006 8:34 pm

tapehead wrote:is Mickey Rourke another one who has compromised his grizzliness with cosmetic beautification?

I think he actually CAUSED his grizzledliness with cosmetic-beautification...

by **wonkabar** on Sun Apr 30, 2006 8:41 pm

seppukudkurosawa wrote:What about Joe Don Baker? He may not have the scraggly beard, but you best believe he's got everything else required to be called a Grizzly Bear.

And one of my favourite actors, Klaus Kinski, wins it for me:

He's not so much grizzled, as he belongs to another species entirely...

by **Seppuku** on Sun Apr 30, 2006 8:55 pm

wonkabar wrote:He's not so much grizzled, as he belongs to another species entirely...

I never realised Klaus starred in a biopic of Cure singer Robert Smith.

Seriously, you've got to tell me what film that picture is from...

by **tapehead** on Sun Apr 30, 2006 8:58 pm

an even grizzlier Clint?

by **wonkabar** on Sun Apr 30, 2006 9:04 pm

seppukudkurosawa wrote:I never realised Klaus starred in a biopic of Cure singer Robert Smith.

Seriously, you've got to tell me what film that picture is from...

I wish I knew....maybe it's just him hanging out at home??

by **Bob Samonkey** on Sun Apr 30, 2006 9:20 pm

Grizzled

Pronunciation: 'gri-z&ld
Function: adjective
: sprinkled or streaked with gray : GRAYING <a grizzled beard>

Wha??!

by **Nachokoolaid** on Sun Apr 30, 2006 9:21 pm

Kilgore wrote:
tapehead wrote:an even grizzlier Clint?

We said 'GRIZZLED', not 'FUGLY'.

Yeah, just because someone is ass ugly doesn't make them grizzled, although that's often the case.

by **Bob Samonkey** on Sun Apr 30, 2006 9:24 pm

Urban ditionary:

1. Grizzled 10 up, 1 down

Worse than grundy. The result of being exposed to something terrible for a long period of time and having the results show through your appearance and state of mind.

Mainly used when referring to a sailor.

I met the most grizzled harbor master in Maine.

Ohhhhh......

by **Kilgore** on Sun Apr 30, 2006 9:25 pm

tapehead wrote:an even grizzlier Clint?

We said 'GRIZZLED', not 'FUGLY'.

by **Leckomaniac** on Sun Apr 30, 2006 9:26 pm

Nolte is the king of grizzled.

I mean honestly, that mug shot should be in the urban dictionary alongside the definiton.

by **Bob Samonkey** on Sun Apr 30, 2006 9:27 pm

Still gotta go with him in either definition

by **Kilgore** on Sun Apr 30, 2006 9:33 pm

Bob Poopflingius Maximus wrote:
I met the most grizzled harbor master in Maine.

Ohhhhh......

That's it?!? That's all the tale you're telling?

Come on, Bob, it may be off-thread, but we all want to hear about 'The Legend of Manos Grande and the Sea Man'...

by **Bob Samonkey** on Sun Apr 30, 2006 9:47 pm

Kilgore wrote:
Bob Poopflingius Maximus wrote:
I met the most grizzled harbor master in Maine.

Ohhhhh......

That's it?!? That's all the tale you're telling?

Come on, Bob, it may be off-thread, but we all want to hear about 'The Legend of Manos Grande and the Sea Man'...

Well I remember it though it wsa a meal ago...

by **Chairman Kaga** on Sun Apr 30, 2006 11:10 pm

Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by **Nachokoolaid** on Mon May 01, 2006 12:16 am

How could I be so blind?

Please forgive me, Chuck.

by **troutpencil** on Mon May 01, 2006 12:23 am

Brandon Bird is amazing.

by **Leckomaniac** on Mon May 01, 2006 2:16 am

Nachokoolaid wrote:How could I be so blind?

Please forgive me, Chuck.

JUST. CAN'T. LOOK. AWAY.

NORRIS!!!!!!!

by **buster00** on Mon May 01, 2006 6:05 am

Here's an exchange between two hard sonsabitch, knock ya down sure as they'd look atcha. H@rry Morgan and John Wayne, respectively, in The Shootist (courtesy iMDB):

Carson City Marshal Walter Thibido: Books, I want you out of town. These are law-abiding people here and I don't want any trouble. I can deputize as many men as I need to see that you leave.

John Bernard Books: I'm not going anywhere, Marshal. I'm dying and I intend to die right here.

Every goddamn minute of The Shootist rates a Grizzle Factor of 10 on the scale.

YouTube · by **Tubbs Tattsyrup** on Mon May 01, 2006 6:47 am

Bob Poopflingius Maximus wrote:

Still gotta go with him in either definition

Fuckin' ditto, man. Waits = the king of grizzle. Even Clint, who comes close, can't quite reach that level.

by **HollywoodBabylon** on Mon May 01, 2006 8:17 am

Don't forget Roddy McDowell in those 'Planet Of The Apes' movies. Grizzled personified.

by **TheBaxter** on Mon May 01, 2006 11:34 am

OK, here's the list I've got so far. I'm disqualifying anyone who's dead because a) you stop being grizzled when you die and b) there are too many formerly-grizzled actors who are now dead to include. if anyone wants to start a "who WAS more grizzled?" poll then go for it.

Clint Eastwood
Nick Nolte
Harry Dean Stanton
Paul Newman
Gary Busey (i agree he's more crazy than grizzled, but i won't cut him yet)
Sam Elliott
Tom Waits
Kris Kristofferson
Mickey Rourke
Tommy Lee Jones
Charlton Heston
Randall 'Tex' Cobb
Chuck Norris
Harrison Ford (my own addition)
R. Lee Ermey (also my own addition)

I need more convincing that these ones are grizzled enough to be on the poll: Robert Redford (LOOKS grizzled but i don't think he IS grizzled), Bruce Dern, Klaus Kinski, Clint Howard, Roddy McDowell (i don't know if fur'ners can be grizzled or not)

it's too bad to have to exclude Jack Elam, Warren Oates, James Coburn, Lee Marvin etc. cos they're dead, so maybe i'll do a 2nd dead & grizzled poll.

I'll post the poll soon, so make any new suggestions or argue for old ones soon.

by **Chairman Kaga** on Mon May 01, 2006 11:37 am

You need convincing about Bruce Dern?

by **TheBaxter** on Mon May 01, 2006 11:43 am

I can't actually remember the last time I saw Bruce Dern in a movie... i know him mostly as Laura Dern's dad. What is a good example of his grizzled-ness?

by **havocSchultz** on Mon May 01, 2006 12:54 pm

Nachokoolaid wrote:How could I be so blind?

Please forgive me, Chuck.

chuck norris isn't grizzled... when grizzled gets good - it becomes chuck norris...

and chuck norris forgives no one - he just roundhouse kicks you in the teeth and gives you something to feel sorry about...

by **TheBaxter** on Mon May 01, 2006 12:57 pm

the poll is up

by **DinoDeLaurentiis** on Mon May 01, 2006 1:03 pm

Those putzes, they not alla so grizzled, no? They never show uppa atta the meetings, eh?

by **The Ginger Man** on Mon May 01, 2006 1:43 pm

Tom Waits! Eastwood lost all of his grizzle when he said the line "Girly...tough ain't enough."

by **Al Shut** on Mon May 01, 2006 1:53 pm

I voted Heston. The cold dead hands quote made the decision easy.

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