AtomicHyperbole wrote:Kind of suprised that AICN people are hinting at possible plantage, but even the negative one doesn't call it all-out crap. Sounds Sith-esque.
"I'm Juggernaut, bitch"? I don't know about the comics. Is that like his catchphrase? Or is it a Ratner fanboy reference? Please explain, someone!
MasterWhedon wrote:It's a really sutpid YouTube video you can see HERE. Basically, someone takes footage from the X-Men cartoon and dubs voices over, saying "bitch" a lot.
MasterWhedon wrote:H@rry updates that positive "review" with this...Grande Rojo wrote:Hey folks, Grande Rojo here... Moriarty and I had read this review and felt that there was better than even odds that this was an earnest review from a fan, but it wasn't jiving, sadly, with what we had heard of the quality. SO - in our own excitement over the chance that we MAY be wrong about X3... we printed it. TURNS out that the review was created by some misguided whiney fanboy that just wanted us to shut up with the negativity in regards to the film. Frankly - right now I'm really depressed - because what this review did was give false hope. And it flushed out someone that had seen the film that thought it was a waste and mediocre. What this means is - AICN will have to not run any positive reviews of X3 unless they come from established sources. This is sad. I really want X3 to be good. Now we'll just have to wait and see. It wasn't written by a studio plant - which at least is a sign that the studio doesn't feel the need to plant reviews online yet. But discount the following. Sadly.
Peven..............?
TonyWilson wrote:I don't like the idea that Grande Rojo is only going to run positive reviews from established sources when he doesn't say the same thing about the negative reviews. I have never ever been one to call out Grande Rojo for his favoutitism, but honestly this does look to be being far too one sided regarding caution about fake reviews.
Anyone with me on this?
Grande Rojo wrote:Hey folks, Harry here... Moriarty and I had read this review and felt that there was better than even odds that this was an earnest review from a fan, but it wasn't jiving, sadly, with what we had heard of the quality. SO - in our own excitement over the chance that we MAY be wrong about X3... we printed it. TURNS out that the review was created by some misguided whiney fanboy that just wanted us to shut up with the negativity in regards to the film. Frankly - right now I'm really depressed - because what this review did was give false hope. And it flushed out someone that had seen the film that thought it was a waste and mediocre. What this means is - AICN will have to not run any positive reviews of X3 unless they come from established sources. This is sad. I really want X3 to be good. Now we'll just have to wait and see. It wasn't written by a studio plant - which at least is a sign that the studio doesn't feel the need to plant reviews online yet. But discount the following. Sadly.
MasterWhedon wrote:TonyWilson wrote:I don't like the idea that Grande Rojo is only going to run positive reviews from established sources when he doesn't say the same thing about the negative reviews. I have never ever been one to call out Grande Rojo for his favoutitism, but honestly this does look to be being far too one sided regarding caution about fake reviews.
Anyone with me on this?
Yeah, I'm totally with you. Now anyone who wants can write up a review ragging on the film and it'll be published simply because it's what he's expecting.
If it's legit sources, make it legit sources on all ends.
TonyWilson wrote:I don't like the idea that Grande Rojo is only going to run positive reviews from established sources when he doesn't say the same thing about the negative reviews. I have never ever been one to call out Grande Rojo for his favoutitism, but honestly this does look to be being far too one sided regarding caution about fake reviews.
Anyone with me on this?
monorail77 wrote:I officially vote EWS as way fucking coolest guy in the Zone
MasterWhedon wrote:H@rry updates that positive "review" with this...Grande Rojo wrote:Hey folks, Grande Rojo here... Moriarty and I had read this review and felt that there was better than even odds that this was an earnest review from a fan, but it wasn't jiving, sadly, with what we had heard of the quality. SO - in our own excitement over the chance that we MAY be wrong about X3... we printed it. TURNS out that the review was created by some misguided whiney fanboy that just wanted us to shut up with the negativity in regards to the film. Frankly - right now I'm really depressed - because what this review did was give false hope. And it flushed out someone that had seen the film that thought it was a waste and mediocre. What this means is - AICN will have to not run any positive reviews of X3 unless they come from established sources. This is sad. I really want X3 to be good. Now we'll just have to wait and see. It wasn't written by a studio plant - which at least is a sign that the studio doesn't feel the need to plant reviews online yet. But discount the following. Sadly.
Peven..............?
Peven wrote:human beings have a habit of doing things that don't make sense. i think H@rry would like to see an X3 movie do well, IF Ratner was not directing. i think giving Ratner credit for making a decent X3 movie will be like pouring lemon juice on an open sore for H@rry. not that i have any knowledge of H@arry having open sores.anyway, i understand the reasons people have given for why they think SR will be so good, and its mostly based on past performance, not anything that has come out of the present production. which, i think, is hardly a concrete premise. i think SR looks ok so far overall, but no matter how good Singer did on X1 and X2, that isn't going to make Routh look any older or more commanding, or change the fact that the storyline is recycled from the Donner films. i say judge a movie, or in this case a film's pre-release materials, based on the actual materials. seriously, who here has sat in a theatre watching a so so movie thinking, "wow, i like this, because the last movie this director made was great, so that makes up for the fact that what i am seeing right now isn't that great". don't get me wrong though, i think SR will probably be a fairly decent movie, as a popcorn matinee flick, i'll go see it with my kids, and we'll probably have a good time.
AtomicHyperbole wrote:"I'm Juggernaut, bitch"? I don't know about the comics. Is that like his catchphrase? Or is it a Ratner fanboy reference? Please explain, someone!
MasterWhedon wrote:The 7-minute clip that aired last night can be seen HERE.
I liked it quite a bit, especially that opening bit between Wolverine and Cyclops.
raasnio wrote:
Am I still in the minority on this? That Ratner can make a great X-Men film? Ok. Either way, his films have always been more entertaining than Singer's. At least I think so.
AtomicHyperbole wrote:It's crazy because a bunch of retards at SHH have a vendetta against this site and are making it their mission to undermine the site.
Theta wrote:raasnio wrote:
Am I still in the minority on this? That Ratner can make a great X-Men film? Ok. Either way, his films have always been more entertaining than Singer's. At least I think so.
Raas...if we ever go to bar-crawling and then to a movie theater...I'm picking the movie.
raasnio wrote:MasterWhedon wrote:The 7-minute clip that aired last night can be seen HERE.
I liked it quite a bit, especially that opening bit between Wolverine and Cyclops.
Thank you for the link! 8)
Am I still in the minority on this? That Ratner can make a great X-Men film? Ok. Either way, his films have always been more entertaining than Singer's. At least I think so.
I'm betting this continues the trend.
AtomicHyperbole wrote:I'm not worried. Why? X-Men was a solid franchise but nothing exceptional... people are acting like it was the holy grail or Singer performed miracles. Solid action flick is what I'm looking for. People unholy bitched about the first (which wasn't that good), the second was a real improvement but was still Blade 2 messy fun and if they can do nothing but entertain with the third, great. Seriously, people sound like they're expecting this unholy great essay on human society and get their panties in a bunch that it isn't. Fuck off will it be. I bet it's exactly like the trailer and clips shown.
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:Again I think people are slagging/gonna slag the film off more than they should simply 'cos it says 'Directed by Brett Ratner', wether he does a good job or not. I bet if you replaced 'Directed by Brett Ratner', with 'Directed by Someone Else', whilst changing nothing from the film, their reactions would be different, wether it's slight or not. Give over on this Ratner slagging off guys, it's like you're not giving him a chance it feels.
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:Again I think people are slagging/gonna slag the film off more than they should simply 'cos it says 'Directed by Brett Ratner', wether he does a good job or not. I bet if you replaced 'Directed by Brett Ratner', with 'Directed by Someone Else', whilst changing nothing from the film, their reactions would be different, wether it's slight or not. Give over on this Ratner slagging off guys, it's like you're not giving him a chance it feels.
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:TonyWilson wrote:Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:Again I think people are slagging/gonna slag the film off more than they should simply 'cos it says 'Directed by Brett Ratner', wether he does a good job or not. I bet if you replaced 'Directed by Brett Ratner', with 'Directed by Someone Else', whilst changing nothing from the film, their reactions would be different, wether it's slight or not. Give over on this Ratner slagging off guys, it's like you're not giving him a chance it feels.
Kirk, when I see the film I'm going to watch it fairly, yes people are bitching cus it's Ratner, cus Ratner is fucking shit.
People have a right to bitch if it's crap 'cos of Ratner, but it just feels that they're already slagging/gonna slag it off more than it might deserve, simply 'cos they saw his name, (wonder if they'd be more forgiving if the exact same looking film had Singer's name on it) and a lot of the things they're already/gonna criticize it for might not be responsible by Ratner.
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:TonyWilson wrote:Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:Again I think people are slagging/gonna slag the film off more than they should simply 'cos it says 'Directed by Brett Ratner', wether he does a good job or not. I bet if you replaced 'Directed by Brett Ratner', with 'Directed by Someone Else', whilst changing nothing from the film, their reactions would be different, wether it's slight or not. Give over on this Ratner slagging off guys, it's like you're not giving him a chance it feels.
Kirk, when I see the film I'm going to watch it fairly, yes people are bitching cus it's Ratner, cus Ratner is fucking shit.
People have a right to bitch if it's crap 'cos of Ratner, but it just feels that they're already slagging/gonna slag it off more than it might deserve, simply 'cos they saw his name, (wonder if they'd be more forgiving if the exact same looking film had Singer's name on it) and a lot of the things they're already/gonna criticize it for might not be responsible by Ratner.
AtomicHyperbole wrote:Fuck off people, Ratner isn't that shit. He fucking outdid Ridley Scott's Hannibal with Red Dragon, for heavens sake.
edit - wow, I'm sounding angry today. Er... hugs all round!
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