tapehead wrote:arent there already 397 threads on HD and Blu-ray?
TheBaxter wrote:DVDs will still be around, at least for a while.
monorail77 wrote:TheBaxter wrote:DVDs will still be around, at least for a while.
Yes, but for how long?
My biggest fear with this new, shinier better HDDVD fad is that consumers will be forced to switch. Studios won't put out DVD's anymore, manufacturers won't make players. It'll take a fair while, but it could happen. That's essentially what has happened to VHS (and records and 8-tracks, for that matter).
monorail77 wrote:TheBaxter wrote:DVDs will still be around, at least for a while.
Yes, but for how long?
My biggest fear with this new, shinier better HDDVD fad is that consumers will be forced to switch. Studios won't put out DVD's anymore, manufacturers won't make players. It'll take a fair while, but it could happen. That's essentially what has happened to VHS (and records and 8-tracks, for that matter).
magicmonkey wrote:Plus, theatres need to bring their F*cking prices down.
monorail77 wrote:magicmonkey wrote:Plus, theatres need to bring their F*cking prices down.
Agreed!!
Actually there's a nice ad campaign for theatres running right now. The "Go Big" campaign. In one effective ad they show you a big screen TV and say "this screen is 50 inches" then they pan out to show you its sitting in front of a movie screen and they say "but this movie screen is 50 feet! Go Big!" (Works for me.)
King Psyz wrote:I still think the PS3 will impact this alot, and yes before anyone starts bitching about the pricetag on that machine. Any of you remember the initial costs of the Atari 2600, NES, Genesis, Super Nintendo, TurboGrafx 16, PS1, ect...?
While they didn't hit $600, if you look at inflation and pricing realative to quality and also other tech during the time this price is right in line.
TheBaxter wrote:i wish they'd take the money they spend on those ads and spend it on hiring some ushers instead, to shut up all the crying babies and people talking on their cellphones during the movies. THAT'S what keeps me out of theatres these days, not ticket prices or DVDs.
Chairman Kaga wrote:TheBaxter wrote:i wish they'd take the money they spend on those ads and spend it on hiring some ushers instead, to shut up all the crying babies and people talking on their cellphones during the movies. THAT'S what keeps me out of theatres these days, not ticket prices or DVDs.
Where do people like you go to the movies? I never have these problems of crying babies and cellphones etc.
Chairman Kaga wrote:King Psyz wrote:I still think the PS3 will impact this alot, and yes before anyone starts bitching about the pricetag on that machine. Any of you remember the initial costs of the Atari 2600, NES, Genesis, Super Nintendo, TurboGrafx 16, PS1, ect...?
While they didn't hit $600, if you look at inflation and pricing realative to quality and also other tech during the time this price is right in line.
Hardly, it's still well above the mean price in US adjusted 2006 dollars. There are only 5 systems that were more expensive on release and all but one of them (Atari 2600) tanked. (Click Here for Larger Graph) Even the systems closest in price to the PS3 bombed (Fairchild, Saturn and the CD-I).
Chairman Kaga wrote:TheBaxter wrote:i wish they'd take the money they spend on those ads and spend it on hiring some ushers instead, to shut up all the crying babies and people talking on their cellphones during the movies. THAT'S what keeps me out of theatres these days, not ticket prices or DVDs.
Where do people like you go to the movies? I never have these problems of crying babies and cellphones etc.
papalazeru wrote:I for one wont be buying one just yet and possibly for the next 5 years wont. Unless I buy an Xbox 360 or something.
Europe was never meant to have HD, we were set to go our seperate ways and work on the development of DVB and DVA. We chose that because HD was a limited market and uses a HELL of alot of bandwidth.
Along came SKY and said, 'We are going to push for this because we can', and Lo and Behold.....Shazaaaam! It arrives in Europe.
There is no serious point to HD at the moment. Nothing is supporting and not all television will in the future.
In the wya of Camera technology, most companies are so cheap they use a sorta Faux HD which just doubles up the resolution....so we are unlikely to see and REAL HD programs for a while, unless they are a Sky import.
One last point, I thought the idea of us moving from Analogue signal to Digital was so that more channels could be aired? With HD television the bandwidth is 18Mhz which is well....about 3 times the size.
If all lines took up this much room with HD, Cable suppliers wouldnt be able to run all those channels...far too expensive and alot fewer channels......and SKY lining its pockets even more.
Im sorry Ladies and Gentlemen, the only winner here is SKY and not the viewer. You will have to pay for HD shows which you could really watch on SD, and then there is 'pay per view and pay for HD' services.
I'll go HD when the Beeb starts doing all its programming in HD.
By the way, this isnt because Im a technophobe. Its because I can see the way that this new device is going to suck the money and the living daylights, right from our own pockets.
Now I know why thelicense fee is worth it.
Petri wrote:So you're saying that, like the Betamax, Sony may have a superior technology but because of poor business decisions and/or marketing decisions the average consumer will get the impression that Blu-ray:
A. Costs more
B. Is inferior to HD-DVD
But the reasons for this is not the technology be it compression or medium, but rather the fact that Toshiba released a quality player for the HD-DVD's maiden voyage while Samsung released a piece of shit.
Thus Blu-Ray will continue to get a bad rap and leave a bad impression in the mind of the average consumer who may, because of this, opt to go with HD-DVD.
Or... they could just be like me and refuse to go to a new video medium until we have something equivalent to the holodeck
i'm not buying either til one becomes the clear winner.
TheBaxter wrote: blu-ray could use the same VC1 codec if it wanted to, or switch to MPEG4 which is what is most likely going to happen.
Chairman Kaga wrote:TheBaxter wrote: blu-ray could use the same VC1 codec if it wanted to, or switch to MPEG4 which is what is most likely going to happen.
I think that is highly unlikely. Sony owns over 85 patents on MPEG2, which is the codec of all of the so far released Blu-Ray discs, thus entitling them to even more rights money for evey disc encoded. No wonder they need a 50 Gig disc as a result.
AtomicHyperbole wrote:Incidentally, Samsung don't make crap. Their LCD's are the weapon of choice for all AAA companies showing off their HD at the moment.
But wow, isn't this technology great? At last I'll see Jennifer Anistons blonde arm hair the way it was meant to be seen!
Jesus Christ...
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