Bob Poopflingius Maximus wrote:Well if you turned out to be my father who I did not know was alive as I was living with my aunt and uncle who told me that you died in doing something stupid. If that happened I might be coerced. You never know.
Now I am going to go to the Toschi station to pick up some power convertors...
ZombieZoneSolutions wrote:Yo, you saw the UK version right Brock? How did that one end?
judderman wrote:ZombieZoneSolutions wrote:Yo, you saw the UK version right Brock? How did that one end?
The British ending was way different, and better in my opinion.
Right after the US movie ends,
when we see that quick shot of Sarah's
eyes opening in horror in the dark, there's
a sudden cut, and we find her back in the
cave, covered in blood, moving along the
floor, eerily crawler-like. She is lit by
flickering firelight. She hears a little voice
whisper "Mummy!", and turns toward it.
Her little girl is sitting opposite her in the dark,
silent and smiling, her face lit by the candles
of her birthday cake. Cut to Sarah, also smiling
silently. Then the camera moves away and we
see that the firelight is just her torch. Sarah is
alone. The camera moves further and further
away, and we see cavern after cavern after
cavern, and we realise that she is never,
ever getting out. The shreiks of the crawlers
fill the soundtrack, closing in. Cut to the picture
of the six girls together. The end.
Vicarious wrote:What's with the America bashing, seriously? We're talking about a movie here... Sure the original ending is better, but why does everything have to be turned into an America slamfest? Yikes...
judderman wrote:ZombieZoneSolutions wrote:Yo, you saw the UK version right Brock? How did that one end?
The British ending was way different, and better in my opinion.
Right after the US movie ends,
when we see that quick shot of Sarah's
eyes opening in horror in the dark, there's
a sudden cut, and we find her back in the
cave, covered in blood, moving along the
floor, eerily crawler-like. She is lit by
flickering firelight. She hears a little voice
whisper "Mummy!", and turns toward it.
Her little girl is sitting opposite her in the dark,
silent and smiling, her face lit by the candles
of her birthday cake. Cut to Sarah, also smiling
silently. Then the camera moves away and we
see that the firelight is just her torch. Sarah is
alone. The camera moves further and further
away, and we see cavern after cavern after
cavern, and we realise that she is never,
ever getting out. The shreiks of the crawlers
fill the soundtrack, closing in. Cut to the picture
of the six girls together. The end.
Brocktune wrote:the original end is like a million billion times better than that heap of shit we got for an end over here. wtf? who is the dumbass that oredered the change? yeah, american audiences are so stupid that they will never go for the way it ends. lets just cut the whole ending off, and make it so abrupt and ridiculous that everyone goes wtf was that. so stupid. it was like, ok, movie over now. it was a piss poor piece of editing that i hope results in the dismissal of whoever was responsible.
Johnny Butane: Let’s get the elephant out of the room first and foremost and talk about the ending.
Neil Marshall: Okay...
JB: First of all if was your decision to change it and if so why…
NM: There are many conspiracy theories abounding, but yes, it is my choice; I thought we should give it a try. I don’t have a favorite ending, actually, if you asked me I couldn’t pick between the two.
I don’t think the U.S. ending makes it any less ambiguous, it’s certainly not a happier ending; it’s just different. One point of view is that the UK ending is actually a bit happier (editor’s note: you’ll have to see it to know what he means, I will reveal nothing). I compare it to Brazil, actually, in terms of the ambiguousness of the end.
Plus it’s been over a year since it’s been released in the UK and I’ve almost been given a second chance at releasing it with the U.S. We had toyed with both endings in the editing room, to the point where we were really wondering which we would use. So we stuck with the scripted ending for the UK and the rest of the world, but when the opportunity came to release it again I thought we should give it a shot.
Also, the response to the ending in the UK totally split audiences 50/50, some people loved and some hated it, so why not see how this one does?
JB: But the UK ending will be on the DVD here, correct?
NM: I can practically guarantee it. Just from Lionsgate’s point of view they’re going to want to get as much on the disc as possible.
raasnio wrote:Brocktune wrote:the original end is like a million billion times better than that heap of shit we got for an end over here. wtf? who is the dumbass that oredered the change? yeah, american audiences are so stupid that they will never go for the way it ends. lets just cut the whole ending off, and make it so abrupt and ridiculous that everyone goes wtf was that. so stupid. it was like, ok, movie over now. it was a piss poor piece of editing that i hope results in the dismissal of whoever was responsible.
Wow. Better start calling the party responsible by name then:
Neil MarshallJohnny Butane: Let’s get the elephant out of the room first and foremost and talk about the ending.
Neil Marshall: Okay...
JB: First of all if was your decision to change it and if so why…
NM: There are many conspiracy theories abounding, but yes, it is my choice; I thought we should give it a try. I don’t have a favorite ending, actually, if you asked me I couldn’t pick between the two.
I don’t think the U.S. ending makes it any less ambiguous, it’s certainly not a happier ending; it’s just different. One point of view is that the UK ending is actually a bit happier (editor’s note: you’ll have to see it to know what he means, I will reveal nothing). I compare it to Brazil, actually, in terms of the ambiguousness of the end.
Plus it’s been over a year since it’s been released in the UK and I’ve almost been given a second chance at releasing it with the U.S. We had toyed with both endings in the editing room, to the point where we were really wondering which we would use. So we stuck with the scripted ending for the UK and the rest of the world, but when the opportunity came to release it again I thought we should give it a shot.
Also, the response to the ending in the UK totally split audiences 50/50, some people loved and some hated it, so why not see how this one does?
JB: But the UK ending will be on the DVD here, correct?
NM: I can practically guarantee it. Just from Lionsgate’s point of view they’re going to want to get as much on the disc as possible.
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austenandrews wrote:I have looked into the abyss and Keepcoolbutcare looked back.
Keepcoolbutcare wrote:Very...Vaginal.
Being a fanatic of the V-word, this was a welcome development.
We have a cave (known as a cavity, a hole, a hollow), with a large, gaping crevice (aka Vulva), the Various tubes of the cave (and what is the Vagina but a tube?)...I mean, the metaphor between caves and Vaginas goes on and on, and color me surprised no one has yet mentioned just how Vaginal this film really is (and Brock ran with the spelunker angle, so I had to come up with a different gag).
Cave = Vagina metaphors aside, the film goes out of it's way to play up this shallow (or deep, depending on the girl) interpretation. We have the implied Vaginal conflict betwixt our two main heroines. Not only the playful teasing of "who is the better woman" exploits of the adventuring (yeah, white water rafting could be construed as a sexual metaphor), but then the implied (obvious, really) affair between Juno and Paul. This movie starts off with a battle of vagina's and proceeds to show most of it's actions in a moist, wet cavity.
Anyone who cares to draw a stick figure opus on the preceding analysis is more than welcome.
But wait, the metaphors are only just beginning.
Quick, what bodily fluid leaks from most Vagina's once a month? What process is the bane of the female existence (yeah, I know it's the cramps and not the blood, but work with me here), a process that needs to be plugged upon occasion? There's a great line by Bela in Ed Wood that succinctly explains my long, drawn out ramblings..."It's the blood, Eddie. The females know about the blood." {paraphrased, 'cuz IMDB doesn't have the quote).
And The Descent is awash in blood.
So we have a moist cave, whose got the better vag, and blood. Now, I'm gonna have to take a bit of a leap here, and these thoughts may only apply to me, but don't underarms, aka arm PITS (pit = cave)...don't they look a tad similar to a vagina? I know when I pin/tie down my partners arms over her head, if I even glance at the luscious underarm, no amount of tantra (otiose or otherwise) will stop me from splooging* (and doesn't splooging sound a tad like spelunking?).
The Descent is filled with copious shots of female underarms, armpits, axillas, oxters.
Not even to mention the overtly obvious drawing on the cave wall, of the mountain with the two crevices. Go on, picture that picture. Now flip it upside down and tell me it doesn't look exactly like a drawing of a vagina with ovaries!!!
And here now (courtesy of the gf, in a stunning bit of analysis) we get to the kicker. Our blind, albino, milky white cannibals are clearly an analogy to a yeast infection. Think about it, yeasts infections begin deep in the vagina, spreading outward down the cavity, till one is infected with them. The similarities are striking...white and yogurty (check), easy enough to kill (check), left unchecked and they run rampant (check).
Marshall should've just called this sucker The Vagina. Might've beefed up it's BO.
*The sexual attraction to the underarms is called axillism or maschalophilous.
Brocktune wrote:somewhere, a tear is streaming down georgia o'keefe's cheek.
Keepcoolbutcare wrote:Brocktune wrote:somewhere, a tear is streaming down georgia o'keefe's cheek.
i made her so wet, her pussy's crying!
Keepcoolbutcare wrote:Very...Vaginal.
Being a fanatic of the V-word, this was a welcome development.
We have a cave (known as a cavity, a hole, a hollow), with a large, gaping crevice (aka Vulva), the Various tubes of the cave (and what is the Vagina but a tube?)...I mean, the metaphor between caves and Vaginas goes on and on, and color me surprised no one has yet mentioned just how Vaginal this film really is (and Brock ran with the spelunker angle, so I had to come up with a different gag).
Cave = Vagina metaphors aside, the film goes out of it's way to play up this shallow (or deep, depending on the girl) interpretation. We have the implied Vaginal conflict betwixt our two main heroines. Not only the playful teasing of "who is the better woman" exploits of the adventuring (yeah, white water rafting could be construed as a sexual metaphor), but then the implied (obvious, really) affair between Juno and Paul. This movie starts off with a battle of vagina's and proceeds to show most of it's actions in a moist, wet cavity.
Anyone who cares to draw a stick figure opus on the preceding analysis is more than welcome.
But wait, the metaphors are only just beginning.
Quick, what bodily fluid leaks from most Vagina's once a month? What process is the bane of the female existence (yeah, I know it's the cramps and not the blood, but work with me here), a process that needs to be plugged upon occasion? There's a great line by Bela in Ed Wood that succinctly explains my long, drawn out ramblings..."It's the blood, Eddie. The females know about the blood." {paraphrased, 'cuz IMDB doesn't have the quote).
And The Descent is awash in blood.
So we have a moist cave, whose got the better vag, and blood. Now, I'm gonna have to take a bit of a leap here, and these thoughts may only apply to me, but don't underarms, aka arm PITS (pit = cave)...don't they look a tad similar to a vagina? I know when I pin/tie down my partners arms over her head, if I even glance at the luscious underarm, no amount of tantra (otiose or otherwise) will stop me from splooging* (and doesn't splooging sound a tad like spelunking?).
The Descent is filled with copious shots of female underarms, armpits, axillas, oxters.
Not even to mention the overtly obvious drawing on the cave wall, of the mountain with the two crevices. Go on, picture that picture. Now flip it upside down and tell me it doesn't look exactly like a drawing of a vagina with ovaries!!!
And here now (courtesy of the gf, in a stunning bit of analysis) we get to the kicker. Our blind, albino, milky white cannibals are clearly an analogy to a yeast infection. Think about it, yeasts infections begin deep in the vagina, spreading outward down the cavity, till one is infected with them. The similarities are striking...white and yogurty (check), easy enough to kill (check), left unchecked and they run rampant (check).
Marshall should've just called this sucker The Vagina. Might've beefed up it's BO.
*The sexual attraction to the underarms is called axillism or maschalophilous.
Keepcoolbutcare wrote:Very...Vaginal.
Being a fanatic of the V-word, this was a welcome development.
We have a cave (known as a cavity, a hole, a hollow), with a large, gaping crevice (aka Vulva), the Various tubes of the cave (and what is the Vagina but a tube?)...I mean, the metaphor between caves and Vaginas goes on and on, and color me surprised no one has yet mentioned just how Vaginal this film really is (and Brock ran with the spelunker angle, so I had to come up with a different gag).
Cave = Vagina metaphors aside, the film goes out of it's way to play up this shallow (or deep, depending on the girl) interpretation. We have the implied Vaginal conflict betwixt our two main heroines. Not only the playful teasing of "who is the better woman" exploits of the adventuring (yeah, white water rafting could be construed as a sexual metaphor), but then the implied (obvious, really) affair between Juno and Paul. This movie starts off with a battle of vagina's and proceeds to show most of it's actions in a moist, wet cavity.
Anyone who cares to draw a stick figure opus on the preceding analysis is more than welcome.
But wait, the metaphors are only just beginning.
Quick, what bodily fluid leaks from most Vagina's once a month? What process is the bane of the female existence (yeah, I know it's the cramps and not the blood, but work with me here), a process that needs to be plugged upon occasion? There's a great line by Bela in Ed Wood that succinctly explains my long, drawn out ramblings..."It's the blood, Eddie. The females know about the blood." {paraphrased, 'cuz IMDB doesn't have the quote).
And The Descent is awash in blood.
So we have a moist cave, whose got the better vag, and blood. Now, I'm gonna have to take a bit of a leap here, and these thoughts may only apply to me, but don't underarms, aka arm PITS (pit = cave)...don't they look a tad similar to a vagina? I know when I pin/tie down my partners arms over her head, if I even glance at the luscious underarm, no amount of tantra (otiose or otherwise) will stop me from splooging* (and doesn't splooging sound a tad like spelunking?).
The Descent is filled with copious shots of female underarms, armpits, axillas, oxters.
Not even to mention the overtly obvious drawing on the cave wall, of the mountain with the two crevices. Go on, picture that picture. Now flip it upside down and tell me it doesn't look exactly like a drawing of a vagina with ovaries!!!
And here now (courtesy of the gf, in a stunning bit of analysis) we get to the kicker. Our blind, albino, milky white cannibals are clearly an analogy to a yeast infection. Think about it, yeasts infections begin deep in the vagina, spreading outward down the cavity, till one is infected with them. The similarities are striking...white and yogurty (check), easy enough to kill (check), left unchecked and they run rampant (check).
Marshall should've just called this sucker The Vagina. Might've beefed up it's BO.
*The sexual attraction to the underarms is called axillism or maschalophilous.
Flumm wrote::o
I'm thinking that Vagina getting a capital, and Lotion getting a capital, is not an entirely unrelated event here, Havoc.
Doc Holliday wrote:Finally caught THE DESCENT last night on TV. I thought it was pretty good - it did enough differently within a genre that often feels so tired. Ignoring the cheat-scares (a reliance on loud music or sudden cuts), there were still a few moments that were genuinely creepy. The first time the big bad appears caught me out....I might have yelped out loud a little
DerLanghaarige wrote:Even my cat was scared of The Descent! After the movie was over, he refused to enter any other room, unless I turned the lights on in there!
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